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ScaryMovie
09-24-2002, 03:13 AM
Just wandering what your thoughts on the 17 - almost 18 year old Avril Lavgne were? Is she talented, a punk, stupid or just retarded?

:confused:

Personally I think she is: talented, good-looking and honestly the 'perfect' girl for me. She also has this ' I don't give a sh*t' attitude that is just crazy. What more could you want in a girl...

Kastman
09-24-2002, 07:20 AM
i dont want to admit it but i like that song

i like to admit that i like her, A LOT

perfect girl, i would say

Fettdog
09-24-2002, 11:40 AM
Great album, great girl. Gets my vote!

I'm a big fan of female singer-songwrites, e.g. Aimee Mann, Sheryl Crow, Michelle Branch Tori Amos etc, and Avril Lavigne's album is one of the strongest debuts I've heard for a long time.

SAI
09-24-2002, 01:27 PM
Pretty girl. And Complicated is really growing on me. I want to hear a couple mor before I think of getting her album though

Hypothermia
09-24-2002, 01:39 PM
I can't stand Avril Lavigne. First of all she's trying to bring back the punk/skater look. And to top it all off I can't stand her music.

So... << thumbs down >>

Bullet Tooth Tony
09-24-2002, 02:11 PM
I prefer Sk8ter Boi

My little bro has the album, havent listened to it yet.

Not really my bag.

She is pretty cute but I think Michelle Branch or Vanessa Carlton are much hotter.

Tom Samborski
09-24-2002, 02:11 PM
Avril Lavigne is an extremley talented singer who kicks Britney Spears' ass when it comes to singing. Lavigne rocks the house!!

pofcorn
09-24-2002, 03:19 PM
Uh, please no punk wannabe singers for me. If only she could make good punk music OR quit dressing like one, I would have respect for her.

CeMeTaRy_GaTeS
09-24-2002, 04:04 PM
She sucks, and Henry Rollins is must be shaking his head. I think she is another BLINK 182, SIMPLE PLAN poser punk outfit. To me if you're a punk you wouldn't be on or try to be on mtv. I'd take NOFX and BLACK FLAG over this shit any day.

NumberMSO52
09-24-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by pofcorn
Uh, please no punk wannabe singers for me. If only she could make good punk music OR quit dressing like one, I would have respect for her.

I gotta agree on this one, she acts like she's from the streets or something and pretends to be a punk, but she's a suburban white chick who plays crappy pop music. Everyone seems to admire her just cuz she writes her own music, but if her music sucks, who cares who wrote it?

Plus i'm getting sick of all the preppy girls in my school wearing ties and thinking they're the shit

idealdiscountdude
09-24-2002, 10:30 PM
The girl does have a few good songs, but man is she an idiot!

The friggin' thing quit school at 16.......it's nice to make money, no doubt, but hell a college education, or at least a High School diploma should be of some importance.........

Gregorious8
09-24-2002, 11:35 PM
I can't stand this girl. First off she tries not to be like all the other "pop" singers, but she is. Second her songs are horrible, What the hell's up with that song Sk8er Boi or whatever it's called? Third her "don't give a shit" attitude is just plain rude & annoying, that American Idol girl, Kelly, tried to hug her after she won Best New Artist & she ignored her. Fourth, she never fucking changes her clothes!

I really hope this girl's music career dies off or she just realizes she's like every other pop artist out there.

daddiefatsacks
09-25-2002, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by NumberMSO52
I gotta agree on this one, she acts like she's from the streets or something and pretends to be a punk, but she's a suburban white chick who plays crappy pop music. Everyone seems to admire her just cuz she writes her own music, but if her music sucks, who cares who wrote it?

Plus i'm getting sick of all the preppy girls in my school wearing ties and thinking they're the shit

i was gonna say the exact same thing

countchocula
09-26-2002, 04:25 PM
I'm with the naysayers. What kills me, is that she actually believes that she's cool. If you try that hard to be cool, YOU ARE NOT COOL. And her lackluster music is anything but punk. Writing your own material should be commonplace in the music industry, so I refuse to say, "At least she writes her own music." Her being young doesn't impress me either. The members of Silverchair were fifteen when they recorded Frogstomp, a superior offering in every respect. At that age, they could play fucking crop circles around Avril and her "cool" band. Anything but ordinary? I think not.

Nate6
09-26-2002, 05:00 PM
I can't stand her. From her show-offy music to her Blink-182 wannabe band to her arrogant nature, she irritates the hell out of me!

Raena
09-27-2002, 05:51 PM
She could be like Sarah Michelle Gellar's younger sister or something.

Kastman
09-27-2002, 10:11 PM
well i guess we are going to have to agree-to-disagree then.

I think she is pretty cool and her songs(well the 2 that i have heard) are good and what the shit does it matter if she wants to dress like a punk, it suits her anyway so i dont care.

Another Cliche Schmoe
09-29-2002, 01:32 PM
Avril = sucks. Plain and simple. I could explain my reasoning... but this article says it all... give it a look. http://recroommagazine.com/articles/avril.htm

idealdiscountdude
09-29-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Another Cliche Schmoe
Avril = sucks. Plain and simple. I could explain my reasoning... but this article says it all... give it a look. http://recroommagazine.com/articles/avril.htm

That is one great article.

The thought of people comparing her and Michelle Branch in other articles almost knocked my socks off! michelle Branch is a true musician with great talent. Avril is a decent entertainer who is a great product.

stevereno
09-29-2002, 07:01 PM
ewww. 2 years ago i new alot of girls who wore ties around like she does. no two years later she's wearing ties and now all her little followers do too like its a fashion craze. if she wants to be unique and and cool i sugest an AFRO

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

Kastman
09-29-2002, 07:04 PM
whats the big deal with the ties?

The songs are cool
She looks cool
The band is cool
The video clips are cool

She isnt trying to be cool, she just is cool. Thats my theory anyway.


And thats the end of that chapter

Just Jack
09-30-2002, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Nate6
I can't stand her. From her show-offy music to her Blink-182 wannabe band to her arrogant nature, she irritates the hell out of me!

I agree 110%. I never liked her to begin with and then when she won the MTV VMA for Best New Artist, she was annoying on stage and very, like you said, arrogant.

Kastman
09-30-2002, 10:45 AM
here is a good article about her.....

http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/04/1901.cfm

mattjk_17
09-30-2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Another Cliche Schmoe
Avril = sucks. Plain and simple. I could explain my reasoning... but this article says it all... give it a look. http://recroommagazine.com/articles/avril.htm

Good article there, Another Cliche Schmoe, thanks for the link! :)

idealdiscountdude
10-01-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Kastman
here is a good article about her.....

http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/04/1901.cfm

"Just don't expect her to be another Britney Spears. "I mean, the way she dresses — would you walk around the street in a fuckin' bra?" she asks rhetorically. "I'm not trying to dis anyone, but with me, the clothes I wear onstage are the clothes I would wear to school or go shopping. I'm not gonna go up onstage and dress different. Britney Spears goes up onstage and dresses like a showgirl. She's not being herself up there because she's dancing like a ho. Is she ho? She says she's a virgin. Y'know, it's just not clicking. She's doing one thing and saying another thing, y'know? It's definitely not what I'm going to do."

Hmmm.... that's pretty hypocritical of Ms.Lavigne if ya ask me.
Another Cliche Schmoe's article proves this.

Scarface98.9
10-01-2002, 09:01 PM
Her music is a guilty pleasure for me, but I'm not rushing to buy it. Though I won't be rushing to see any star vehicle for her anytime soon

Another Cliche Schmoe
10-01-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by mattjk_17
Good article there, Another Cliche Schmoe, thanks for the link! :)

It is, isn't it? Grr.... I hate Avril with a passion. Anyhow, I think I've made a name for myself on the Joblo music forum as "the guy who gave us the article dissing Avril". I'm so proud. :p.

Kastman
10-02-2002, 07:13 AM
OK now im trying desperately to prove shes not....uhhh.....bad.

I havent even read this yet but its off her official site and im just guessing its a positive one.


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Anything but ordinary. That's putting it mildly when describing Avril Lavigne. A skater-punk, a dynamic spirit, a true wild child. One of those rare creatures who started wowing people with her voice and character at around age 2. A small-town kid who couldn't sit still in class but had the confidence and determination to take off, virtually on her own, to hone her songwriting skills in New York City and Los Angeles. A startlingly up-front and outrageous 17-year-old with everything it takes to reach stardom-completely on her own terms. "I'm just coming out and I'm going to clearly be myself-I write what I feel, I never worry what others think, " Avril avows. "I'm gonna dress what's me, I'm gonna act what's me and I'm gonna sing what's me."

Avril does exactly that on her debut CD, Let Go, flaunting sassy vocals, a crystal clear voice with real-girl lyrical style. "Anything But Ordinary" is a rockin' ode to individuality, while guitar-driven first single, "Complicated," is a simple song that kicks pretenders to the curb. The string-inflected "I'm With You" reaches out for connection to reflect Avril's more mellower side, but tracks like "Losing Grip" and "Unwanted" courageously confront rejection and betrayal with all the heaviness such subjects demand. Then there's "My World" and the metaphoric "Mobile," which perfectly articulate the Avril experience. "I have this awesome opportunity to fulfill my dream. I am all over the place, flying here and there, going through different stuff every day," she explains. "This is my lifestyle, but I wouldn't want a normal life or I'd get bored."

Apparently, Avril was born for such insanity. A middle child who "always wanted to be the center of attention," she was bound to bust out of Napanee, Ontario, population 5,000. "I always knew this was what I had to do," she says. "I remember when I was really young, standing on my bed like it was a stage, singing at the top of my lungs and visualizing thousands of people surrounding me." She segued from her bedroom to singing, well, whenever and wherever she could-starting in church singing gospel music, and on to festivals, then singing country music at fairs and talent contests-until she was discovered by Arista Records.

On a writing trip to NYC, Avril caught the attention of Antonio "LA" Reid, who snapped her up and signed her to Arista. At 16, she moved to Manhattan and began work on her debut CD. Avril plunged into the creative process. "I love writing," she explains. "When I get upset and really need to get it out of me I go to my guitar. Sometimes I feel like my guitar is my therapist."

Although Avril virtually lived in the studio during that New York stint, her efforts didn't pay off at first. "I started working with these really talented people, but I just wasn't feeling it; the songs weren't representative of me," she admits. "Then they started talking about having people write for me, but I had to write myself. I had to do my music. It was a really stressful time, but I never considered giving up." Instead, she flipped coasts. Los Angeles gave Avril the fresh start she needed.

It was there that she hooked up with producer/songwriter Clif Magness, and "I was like, 'Yeah! I've found my guy!'" she enthuses. "We totally clicked, because he just let me guide; he really understood me and let me do my thing." The songs for Let Go began pouring out, with Magness at the helm as well as up-and-coming production team the Matrix. Soon after Avril hooked up with Nettwerk Management who've steered the careers of Sarah McLachlan, Dido, Coldplay, Barenaked Ladies and Sum 41.

Avril couldn't be happier with the way the album turned out. "In this past year I've really grown as a writer. 'Complicated' wasn't written about anyone in particular. It is basically about life, people being fake and relationships." As to one of her favorite tracks, "Losing Grip," she says, "That is definitely one of my ex-boys-he didn't give me what I needed emotionally." Avril laughs, "It doesn't matter now, and plus I got a good song out of it."

Now that her album is done, Avril can't wait to get out and play. She jokes, pointing out that touring with her own sk8er punk band of rocker boys probably won't be all that different from her childhood, "I was always a tomboy and I guess I still am. I played hockey during the fall /winter and baseball in the summer. I loved playing with the boys.

But Avril's music is capable of reaching the girls and the guys, and more than a few adventurous adults too-and she's chomping at the bit to bring it to 'em. "I can't wait to be out there; I want to rock the world! I want people to know that my music is real and honest -it came from my heart. I was just being true to myself."

Avril's real, all right. And ordinary? Anything but.


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Kastman has left the building

Geronimo
10-02-2002, 09:31 AM
Just another wannabe. I hope I won't be hearing from her next year.

Kastman
10-02-2002, 01:42 PM
just to let you know that other article where it says she hates britney, well she didnt actually say any of that, ITS ALL LIES I TELL YA. i heard an interview.

crook38
10-02-2002, 02:13 PM
i quite liked that complicated song and thought she was really pretty.Other than that i hadn't given her much thought but now having read these posts and that article i am completely in the "what a stupid little bitch"camp.There are few things i hate more in this world than those "aren't i just soo cool and wild and free types".

Kastman
10-02-2002, 02:36 PM
Holy crap am i losing this argument!

Im gonna take the childish approach.


SHE RULES SEE YA

James Logan
10-02-2002, 02:44 PM
Well, Kastman, wanted to side with you, but...she DOES sound like a bitch. :D

NuclearMisfit
10-03-2002, 08:25 PM
Shes pretty cute and shes got a nice ass. Thumbs up.

Another Cliche Schmoe
10-03-2002, 10:08 PM
dont get me wrong, id bang her if i had the chance... but her music and attitude suck.

Kastman
10-05-2002, 06:38 PM
http://www.alavigne.com/Multimedia/pictures/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/04.jpg

http://www.alavigne.com/Multimedia/pictures/miscellaneous/miscellaneous/40.jpg

just trying out this picture thing. They better god damn work.

Jason Voorhees
10-05-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by countchocula
I'm with the naysayers. What kills me, is that she actually believes that she's cool. If you try that hard to be cool, YOU ARE NOT COOL. And her lackluster music is anything but punk. Writing your own material should be commonplace in the music industry, so I refuse to say, "At least she writes her own music." Her being young doesn't impress me either. The members of Silverchair were fifteen when they recorded Frogstomp, a superior offering in every respect. At that age, they could play fucking crop circles around Avril and her "cool" band. Anything but ordinary? I think not.

Thank you, Well said. One more pop charlatan trying to be ''edgy''.. Wonderful..

Another Cliche Schmoe
10-05-2002, 08:56 PM
hum... i might just beat off to those pics.

Sunshine
10-06-2002, 12:17 AM
You know, I once listened to "Sk8ter boi" (Awful title for a song, btw), and I gotta say, those were the dumbest lyrics I've ever heard.

arto_j
10-06-2002, 08:09 AM
I'm no fan of hers, but I don't think she's so bad. The Complicated song is kind of growing on me, and I don't have anything against her. I'm not gonna go out and buy the album, but I won't turn off the radio whenever she's on. The song's alright, I heard Sk8ter Boy once, and that wasn't so bad either. At least she writes her own songs, unlike Britney or whatever. I don't exactly know why but she sort of reminds me of Alanis Morrisette, though I'm not sure if that's a good thing :)