Matrix: Reloaded to be the greatest movie of all time!?

[darkface]

Matrix: Reloaded to be the greatest movie of all time!?....

Well if everything that i've heard of that is true, and is going to be in the movie, then hell, this could be a nominee for best movie of all time in my opinion. I love the matrix and are definatly anticipating the new sequals. What are your schmoes' takes on the sequals?

[James Logan]

They could be good sequels, and they could be great entertainment, like the first one was (although it was a blatant rip-off, but that's another subject ;) ).

But there's no way THE MATRIX RELOADED or THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS are ever gonna be the best movies of all-time. Not even in the Top Twenty. They're probably gonna be good, but no way they'll be THAT good.

[Movie Hunter]

Sorry Logan BUT this movie have some great capabilities , if also everything i heard is true..

and also what Top 20 are you talking about ??

is IMDB top 20 , coz u know there is alot of science fiction maniacs out there ..and it works through voting.

BUT , i think it will not gross alot of money .. it will not reach spider man or LOTR Income ... thats just my opinion.

[xirtam]

The greatest movie of all time? I would NOT be surprised. My two fav movies are Lord of the Rings and The Matrix, I think they are equally good, and I think the same will be with the two sequels of each one.

[Scarface98.9]

I HIGHLY doubt it.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
I HIGHLY doubt it.

Finally someone who has a brain and uses it. ;)

Movie Hunter, I'm talking about my personal Top Twenty up there. I don't think the imdb.com Top 20 is worth much, for that matter. The first MATRIX movie was great entertainment, but all the hype around it claiming it's the best movie of the decade or even of all-time.
First off, I don't think THE MATRIX is even the best sci-fi movie ever. Maybe it's one of the best, but still far from being as good as THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK or BLADE RUNNER or other masterpieces of the genre. So don't even tell me it's the best movie ever, all genres included, because in no way it deserves to be given that title.

Besides, considering THE MATRIX wasn't expected to be such a hit and was considered at first as a stand-alone movie, I don't think THE MATRIX RELOADED and THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS will be as good, because they're just sequels made for the money and the experience. They could be as good, but in that case they're still far from being the best movies ever. They could be better, and then I'd still highly doubt them to have the capacity to get to that level.

Let's face it, dudes: THE MATRIX is an action sci-fi movie, and no action movie can be good enough to be the best movie ever. And all I've heard about RELOADED is a story about a virus, a sex scene between the two protagonists, and a supposedly bad-ass car chase. Doesn't seem that incredible in my book: most blockbuster action movies have those anyways.

[Moviefreek]

As you all know, The Matrix is My favorite movie. I want the sequal to be better, but sequals are rarely better and its gonna be hard to beat the original, but I belive it may come close.

[Lindsey]

I agree with Moviefreek. The Matrix is one of my favorites. IMO, no sequels could beat the first, unless it can be better. Even though sequels can turn out to be shit. I hope that there going to be better, and full of more action.

[Cyclonus]

Well, I think it's asking too much for it to be "the greatest ever," but I'm sure it'll be a good action flick! :)

[arto_j]

It definitely won't be the greatest film ever, but right now it would seem like it will be one kick-ass action film!

[dh1989]

I doubt it will be the best film ever made, but I am sure that it will be a good one. It'll be fun and entertaining, but it will not be the best film ever made. There are too many good ones out there already.

[APzombie]

If its alot of action, great story that follows up the first, how can it dissapoint?

[Movie Hunter]

Sorry i didnt mean the best movie ever .. i meant it could be the best sci-fic movie ..

there is alot of great movies out there ... and as u see i can vote for God Father or LOTR:FOTR to be the best movie ever than the matrix..

But still , it should be a good action sci-fic flick .

[whitemat]

I think and hope that its gonna be a great movie. It has a lot to live up to so it better be damn good or tons of people are gonna be disappointed.

One things for sure; that its gonna have one hell of an opening weekend. I wonder if there will be star wars style lines like days in advance and stuff.

[James Logan]

Well, I saw MINORITY REPORT yesterday, and it ranks in my top three fave sci-fi movies with BLADE RUNNER and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. Now, I really think it'll be very, very, very hard for THE MATRIX RELOADED to just be the best sci-fi movie ever, because MINORITY report was way better than the original MATRIX anyways.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Didnt like the first film too much, but the sequal looks more interesting - for me, anyways. And Logan, I have to disagree with you on one point - you said that no action film could be the best movie ever, but why not? Simply because it is an action film?

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**
And Logan, I have to disagree with you on one point - you said that no action film could be the best movie ever, but why not? Simply because it is an action film?

Ok, so maybe an action movie can. I still think it's highly unlikely: movies that are usually considered contenders for "best movie ever" need to have some meaning and needs to have changed the filmmaking craft in some way. THE MATRIX doesn't fill up either of those requirements, and sequels usually don't either.

[Highspeed]

All I'm going to say is we are just going to have to wait and see...for some reason I have a feeling Revolutions might even surpass Reloaded...just have a gut feeling!

[Strider]

I loved The Matrix, I thought it was a great sci-fi/action flick. But that's just my personal opinion. As for the sequels, I'm dying to see them, and I think they have potential at being one of the best sci-fi/action flicks and sequels of all time.

Strider

[RogueSpear]

Originally posted by James Logan
Ok, so maybe an action movie can. I still think it's highly unlikely: movies that are usually considered contenders for "best movie ever" need to have some meaning and needs to have changed the filmmaking craft in some way. THE MATRIX doesn't fill up either of those requirements, and sequels usually don't either.

Ok, I have a question. Who's making this "best movie ever" list because if it ain't me then it don't matter. Why would someone else's best movie ever. If the AFI comes out with there list and Citizen Kane or something is #1 it doesn't mean anything. I, and only, can chose what I feel is the best. My best movie ever is The Shawshank Redemption. Followed by Halloween and Terminator 2: Judgment Day. The Matrix is definately in my top ten.

Now if your saying that personally it won't be the best movie ever then that's fine, but you didn't word your statement that way. However, it doesn't mean a damn thing what some AFI or Newsweek says is the best movie ever. Who are they to know what I think is the best movie. Just because they think something is the best ever does not mean it is. It just means that they think it is.

I personally think that the sequels to The Matrix could be very good. They probably won't be my favorite ever but that doesn't mean they couldn't be to someone else.

Sorry, this is not an attack against you. I just hate to see people getting crap because of their opinion.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by RogueSpear

Sorry, this is not an attack against you. I just hate to see people getting crap because of their opinion.

No need to be sorry, dude, it's a valid opinion and a solid argumentation. That's what we're here for. :)

[James Logan]

That was just MY opinion, MY way of thinking, and my own eventual Best Movies Ever, although I don't like making lists. I can't speak for any magazines or anyone else but myself. :)

[peepnklown]

RogueSpear

Finally, someone who actually gets it.

We all have opinions but in the end all that matters is what YOU like.

Throwing out opinions is a good thing but once you start to state your opinion like a FACT is when you need to stop posting and think about it a second.

[Zed]

Well, there's my humble opinion:

I got some doubts about The Matrix Secuels making it hiogh as a great movies of all times.

That's why:

If you take a careful look at The Matrix, you see that, even when all the espectacular visual features presented in the second half of the film......the script and the general plot gets a little poorer than in the first half.

I think that the Wachowsky brothers are good directors.....but they are not as good screenwritters.

Then I'm pretty sure that a great visual movie can go very high in the Box Office........but without a good script, you can't enter in movie history. (For example....."Titanic" does not enter in the IMBD Top 200).

[Congerking]

i think that you are jumping the gun. will the matrix movies be great movies?? Probably yes. the greatest of all time?? NO. they will be great box office/special effect movies, but no way the greatest of all time.

[mrdeeds]

Matrix was unquestionably a ground breaking movie, arguably the best sci-fi film to date. Looks like all the skeptics are out about naming Matrix Reloaded as the best movie of all time. No sci-fi film will likely ever claim that mantle. Sequels, unless an adaptation of an exisiting work (ie LOTR or Harry Potter) usually are not as good as the original, and even more seldom to they surpass their predecessor.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by mrdeeds
Sequels, unless an adaptation of an exisiting work (ie LOTR or Harry Potter) usually are not as good as the original, and even more seldom to they surpass their predecessor.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK was better than the original STAR WARS. And it was sci-fi too.

[mrdeeds]

Originally posted by James Logan
THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK was better than the original STAR WARS. And it was sci-fi too.

The Empire Strikes back is a rare exception, though in most movie-goers minds, Star Wars is the more endearing of the two and still did better at the box office.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by mrdeeds
The Empire Strikes back is a rare exception, though in most movie-goers minds, Star Wars is the more endearing of the two and still did better at the box office.

Well sure it's an exception, but it still proves it can be done, right? :)

[Horror whore]

Best film of all time? I highly doubt it.
Better than the original? It's a very definate possibility.

[darkface]

The only problem with Reloaded being better than the original is... things won't seem so original this time around. Yea there's some amazing scenes, but if this was the first time we've ever saw Bullet time, i'm sure it would make it better, but we'll see. Maybe there will be some kickass scene that they never talked much about.

[x1999]

it's ironic that the matrix reloaded won't be as original 'coz every damn action movie has copied it! LOL

the matrix trilogy won't be the greatest movie of all time 'coz it's an "action movie" but will definitely become a benchmark for future action flicks

and that is a great achievement for an "action film"

[Brock-Landers]

I think it's gonna be a great picture but NO!!!!!! way in hell it's gonna be the Greatest film of all time!!.

[Ghostface 2000]

i think that the sequels will be better than the first one because all big budget movies that everyone loves are e.g Terminator 1 & 2, Godfather 1 & 2. So i think that the second matrix film will turn out to be better than the first one.

Well i'm hoping anyway :)

[rilocay]

Matrix sequals best sci-fi movies, very believable, best movies of all time it is beleivable but u cant say w/o having seen it...its like who would have fought godfather pt1 would be one of the best of all time before it came out? and there is probably sum stooge out there who doesnt liek it neways...

Reloaded and Revolutions will easily beat the lord of the rings at the movies beacause these apeal to a more wide audience plus in reloaded there is sex...i mean there is gonna be an amount of perverts who r gonna see this just to catch the glimps of carrie ann moss showing it (again) at the movies and once again IMAX comes to mind happily in those ppl. Plus matrix fans have had to wait 3 years to see these sequals and so did ppl for fotr but the was the first, it has faded out largely since the second movies release. and to me, the matrix has just begun to grow stronger..

again thats my opinion but u cant denie the sex part...

[x1999]

Originally posted by rilocay


Reloaded and Revolutions will easily beat the lord of the rings at the movies beacause these apeal to a more wide audience plus in reloaded there is sex...i mean there is gonna be an amount of perverts who r gonna see this just to catch the glimps of carrie ann moss showing it (again) at the movies and once again IMAX comes to mind happily in those ppl. Plus matrix fans have had to wait 3 years to see these sequals and so did ppl for fotr but the was the first, it has faded out largely since the second movies release. and to me, the matrix has just begun to grow stronger..

again thats my opinion but u cant denie the sex part...

LOL! yes, the sex part is what we're really after :D

[APzombie]

this is a pointless thread, i mean we are arguing that the Matrix Reloaded is or isn't the greatest film of all time before we even see it. And because none of us have seen it, nobody has a good point or a strong argument for either case.

Lets wait till May 15, then we can start talking about how good it is...

[DevilMonkey]

Sorry, I may give it a 10/10 but I seriously mega doubt it would be in my top 50. Sorry :(

Yes, and we should wait till may 15 to find out :)