jedi deaths...

[El Bracamonti]

in episode 3, practically every jedi has to die. i just want them to have good deaths. for instance, mace windu. you can't a bad mothafucka get shot in the back or something, it's gotta be coo. the same goes for all the others. and if it's true about yoda dying, then his has to be the best of all

[SLAW]

Something really clever must be done for all these deaths. Soooo much is supposed to happen in EP 111. I mean, how are they just going to "jampck" all this stuff in one film, when we had two other films that could have been more eventfull?

[APzombie]

Well i suppose that means there won't be alot of room for romantic "Lucas" trademark dialouge between Skywalker and Amidala.... tis a shame.

[James Logan]

As every fan, I got a very precise opinion of how I think each and every one of the Jedi should die and how it should be written and displayed. For instance, here's how I imagine it:

Darth Vader (Anakin's dark side name) is ordered by Darth Sidious to hunt down the Jedi. He starts with Mace Windu. Why, you ask me? Because Mace was the one who refused Anakin become a Padawan in EPISODE I. "No. He's too old", ring a bell for you? ;) Anyways, I picture Anakin having a duel with Mace, and killing him in some way, Mace dying with courage and dignity (that's how Sam L. wants it). As Mace falls to the ground, we start hearing music, à la "Duel of the Fates" or "Carmina Burana", y'know, big chorus epic music. Ensues a sequence in which we see Anakin killing all the Jedi of the council, one by one, slaughtering them as the "Duel of the Fates"-like music plays in the background. Finally, we see the last Jedi master Anakin has to kill -- Obi-Wan. Standing face to face with Anakin, looking sorry.
Anakin turns on his lightsaber.
Music stops.
Anakin throws himself on Obi-Wan.

That's how I personally picture it. :) But I know Georgie won't do it that way, so I'm gonna wait and see lol.

AP, I still think Anakin and Padme will have a lot of that cheesy dialogue again, unfortunately. :( lol

[Jason Voorhees]

Originally posted by El Bracamonti
and if it's true about yoda dying, then his has to be the best of all

Yoda dying? Now, I don't pay attention to rumors and such about upcoming films; but Yoda appears in EP 4-6; If he died in EP3, that could possibly be construed as one of the most egregious logic and continuity errors in film history...

[APzombie]

Originally posted by Jason Voorhees
Yoda dying? Now, I don't pay attention to rumors and such about upcoming films; but Yoda appears in EP 4-6; If he died in EP3, that could possibly be construed as one of the most egregious logic and continuity errors in film history...

This has been a rumor (mainley around the JoBlo Movie Club boards) that Yoda will die Episode III and wil return in a Empire Strikes Back in a "new body"...

I find it a waste of time to think about a rumor at that crazy scale, though if true, they would have to esstablish that Yoda can transfer bodies after he dies, esstablish that he has been alive for 600 years in x amount of bodies and ultimatley he will have to die.... Thats alot of development for a side character in a two and a half hour film thats mainly about three other characters.

[Jason Voorhees]

Thanks for clarifying that AP, I usually ignore these rumors (As I stated) so I was a little confused about that one.

I agree, Sounds far too illogical and furthermore: Quite stupid. Yoda a bodyhopping force? Hops into a body that is uncannily similar his previous one? No thanks...

These new Star Wars films are already maligned enough, I imagine of a move of this nature would have people exiting theaters in droves...

[whitemat]

I don't think Yoda's gonna die either but I think he's gonna catch a mean ass whoopin.

In Episode 2 there is a part towards the beginning where Chancellor Palpatine uses the force a little bit to read Amidala's mind and he says exactly what she was going to say before she says it then Yoda picks up on this and gets this interesting hmmm look on his face. (I have a downloaded copy of Episode 2 so I've seen this a couple of times.) So I think Yoda is just a little suspicious of the Chancellor so in Episode 3 I think when the Chancellor comes out of the closet he is gonna beat the shit out of Yoda. Maybe Anakin will kill the other ones or maybe someone else like Boba will but Anakin isn't strong enough to hurt Yoda but we will find out that the Emperor is. I think he will kick his ass maybe almost kill him and Yoda will retreat/hide on that one planet hes in in the original trilogy.

Then since we know the Emperor is even stronger then Yoda it makes it that much more dramatic that in Return of the Jedi Darth Vader and Luke get the best of him.


Just my theory, but one things for sure there is going to be a twist/surprise somewhere in Episode 3. Something big that explains so much, and I can't wait to see what it is.

[James Logan]

I don't know if we'll get to see Yoda fight again. I don't think he'll die in the flick, just as much as I don't believe Dooku is Anakin's father. It's all highly unlikely rumors.

I don't know if we'll get to see Palpatine fight or use the Force much either...I think he should seem weaker and weaker until RETURN OF THE JEDI, where he kicks Luke's ass and reveals his true power.

[Scarface98.9]

This is probably cliched, but I'd love it if Mace is trapped by clonetroopers (set up by the Emperor) and has to fight his way out. He makes it out w/ each trooper dead until he later dies by Anakin or something

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
This is probably cliched, but I'd love it if Mace is trapped by clonetroopers (set up by the Emperor) and has to fight his way out. He makes it out w/ each trooper dead until he later dies by Anakin or something

It IS clichéd...but it would be cool, that's for sure. :cool:

[Barnumyay]

just how many Jedi are there left after Episode II?

I mean Wace in EpII says there are only a hundred and a hell of a lot of them died in the big battle on Geonosis...so who's all left? anyone have a list?

I figure practically all of the JC is left...



And my current theory regarding EpIII and yoda is that he will fake his death so he can hide...

And Samuel L. Jackson clearly has said he doesn't want Mace to die like a bitch and there's only one person good enough to kill him, Anakin, but that's practically common knowledge now.

Another thing that's bothered me...it's pretty common knowledge that there is some sort of volcano duel between Obi and Ani and Ani goes into the lava...but where was this stated? The books?

[jeo4]

I have no reason to believe Yoda will "die" in III. Instead, I can say with at least some certainty that he will be banished, along with Obi Wan. Jedi are outlawed by Palpatine at some point. I also think Mace Windu will more than likely fight Darth Vader and Boba Fett. I believe Boba Fett will blow him to dust. Remember Vader's comment to the bounty hunters in EP V? "I want them alive, (points to Fett) NO DISINTEGRATIONS." This leads me to believe Mace Windu will die at the hands of Fett in an explosion. Count Dooku took Anakin's arm in battle. I would bet that Anakin returns the favor and then kills him. Anakin doesn't just fall into the dark side of the force. He is driven there by a number of factors. Naturally, one would assume he never knows about his children because he's off working while Padme has her own duties to attend to. After she has the children, Dooku or Sidious attack her, and either Dooku, the jedi, or both get blamed for her death. Anakin rampages through all members of the order, except for Yoda and Obi Wan. Lucas made specific mention that this will be the darkest of all episodes, so I look for the bodies to stack up like a slasher film. I also look for a few planets to get erased (Naboo first?) and the Clones to have some genetic fault that causes them to go mad and kill one another. This comes from some of the books I have read so far, explaining clone "madness". I don't think they will make it very far before they are replaced with stormtroopers.

[darkface]

Mace should go out by sacrificing himself, like he fights a big fight, but then realizes that he has to sacrifice himself to keep Yoda alive, or even Obi-Won.

[Tweaky]

If I remember correctly how the clone wars go, the Mandalorians are hired by the Empire to kill all the jedi, and after the Jedi destroy the Mandalorians, he sends in Anakin(whose been training while the Mandaloriens are fighting). Or either way around, I remember the Mandaloriens getting involved then being wiped out. If the Mandaloriens have armor like Boba(disentegrations, flamethrowers), then they'll reak havoc upon the jedi. When most of the jedi are dead( and all the Mandaloriens) Anakin goes out to kill the rest. Only the most powerful jedi are left after the Mandalorien's attack. Powerful jedi like Mace and Yoda.
Also, yoda can't switch bodies. That's a Dark Force trick. In the expanded universe Palapatine was able to do that because he imbodyed the dark side of the force and used that power and a dark force trick to switch is power and mind into differnt clone bodies.

I think that either Naboo will be blown-up, or, a rumor was started that Naboo was Dagohbah. If it was, it was avacuated and animals overun the place. Also Naboo was mostly swamps. Maybe the place turns into a big swamp and is forgotten, then someone finds it again and calls it something else.

[APzombie]

Originally posted by Tweaky
a rumor was started that Naboo was Dagohbah. If it was, it was avacuated and animals overun the place. Also Naboo was mostly swamps. Maybe the place turns into a big swamp and is forgotten, then someone finds it again and calls it something else.

I have to say that rumor is pretty creative and it doesn't seem as 'far out there' as some others, though we shall see....

[Congerking]

I post a question to you all. If you remember is Episode 2, when anakin slaughtered all the tusken raiders, they TOTALLY skipped it. I personally wanted to see anakin chop them up. NOW, to episode 3, if anakin kills all the jedis, do you think that lucas will actually show them all dying or just show the type of killing anakin did in episode 2.

If lucas does what he did in episode 2, it will make it pretty crappy. lucas better show some chopped off body parts and such.

[APzombie]

I would very much be upset if it is shown like the tusken raiders, it would be hiding the truth to Anakin's fall to the dark side of Vader... We should see how low he goes, so that we see how hard it would be for him to turn back (making the end to ROTJ more emotional). In all honesty, i don't think there should be a hint of good still in Anakin through the second half of Episode III, not one little emotion towrard Padme or Ben or anyone! I think he should at least mentaly turn to the dark side the last half, and leave the last ten minutes or so for him to get into the Vader gear... I wonder why Sideous named Anakin new sith name Vader anyway?

[James Logan]

I agree with AP. In the second part of EPISODE III, Anakin has to be BAD. Complete and unescapable evil. Not only would it be the best way to go (because it'd be fun to watch and would end the new trilogy magnificiently), but I also think that would help the story as a whole. If Anakin/Vader seems completely evil in the end of EPISODE III, then you'll think his soul is forever lost. Palpatine is sure he's turned, the people of the galaxy know it, and even Obi-Wan and Yoda lose hope. That would mean the only person who'll ever believe Vader can be turned back is Luke, his son.

And I think that'd be a nice symbol, and a nice addition to the relationship between father and son.

[The Young Son]

Hey James, i love your idea of Duel Of Fates playing as all jedi are slaughtered.Cool idea man. That's all.

[qui-gon_jinn]

Hey everyone,

On the topic of how all the Jedi get wiped out. In some reference books it states that there are infact THOUSANDS of Jedi scattered throughout the galaxy. In the arena battle in Ep. II there are only 200. Mace took perhaps the most talented Jedi along to this no expecting what happen after. So as far as all the jedi getting slaughtered by Vader is concerned, unless he spends 5 or so years flying around the galaxy killing them all it would make it very difficult to do. And i mean Vader can't be TOO hardcore i mean Luke pretty much kicks his ass in Return of The Jedi. He can barely handle 1 Jedi let alone a thousand. I think Palpatine and the Storm Trooper (laughs) have to help out a bit.

:D Thats what i think anyway :D

[qui-gon_jinn]

Just to correct myself on my last statement.

I left out a HUGE fact. In the Clone War i believe that Jedi serve are sort of Combat Generals. I think we will find out a great deal of the Jedi perished in the Clone War.

Anakin/Darth Vader may just finish off the rest.

I think that George needs more scene's of Jedi like Plo Koon and Ki-Adi Mundi, they are 3rd and 4th on the Council respectively. and 2 very powerful Jedi it would be a shame to not have at least a little on them
my opinion anyway.

:D