LUCIO FULCI: What do you think? [Archive] - Movie Fan Central Discussion Forums

SteveSzyk

10-12-2002, 01:34 PM

Lucio Fulci has made his share of horror classics inclusing The Beyond, and Zombie. Many horror fans think the man is brillant, and is the master of gore, however others, and mostly all critics think of him as talentless, and only looking for reasons to gross out. A common arguement is the famous, no plots one, claiming his movies are incoherent gore feasts. Maybe... however I'd say the man is great. I found The Beyond to be heavy on story, especially after repeated viewings. And the gore, perfectly executed. Somehow, no matter how much he puts in his movies, it's never too much. Always perfect. I also liked Zombie, but agree here that the plot was paper thin. But the gore effects in this movie are just brillant, and any problems with plot were covered up by the massive blood flow. What I think: He's no Dario Argento, but he is the master of gore, and one of the best Italian horror directors of all time.

Fisting Ackbar

10-13-2002, 04:22 AM

I've seen four of his movies.

THE BEYOND had some cool gore/atmospheric scenes but the plot was a chaotic mess and the dialogue was awful. 5/10

CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD aka THE GATES OF HELL also had no plot and seemed to drag an awful lot. Not to mention that the lighting was very bad in some scenes and they used a remix of the ZOMBIE score at the end. 4/10

THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY had the most annoying kid in movie history which made me dislike it no matter what else went on in the film. 4/10

ZOMBIE is the only film of his I like. Gorgeous cinematography and has one of the coolest scenes ever in a horrorfilm (I'm talking about the shark vs zombie fight). It does drag at times but I can forgive Fulci for that. 7/10.

DeadByDawn

10-13-2002, 04:27 AM

Lucio Fulci is one of the best European horror directors. His movies like The Beyond, Zombie and The Gates Of Hell (aka City Of The Living Dead) are all great movies. The Beyond has a great plot and looks great, Zombie is filled with gore and is very entertaining and The Gates Of Hell (aka City Of The Living Dead) is very scary and has a creepy athmosphere.

countchocula

10-13-2002, 12:19 PM

Outside of his "Fab 4," which Fulci flick is the most rewarding? I'm thinking of picking up either Demonia or The New York Ripper.

The Claw

10-13-2002, 06:05 PM

I've seen Gates Of Hell and Zombie both of which i enjoyed alot. i like his movies alot more then the overated dario guy.

The Professional

10-14-2002, 09:39 AM

I watched the beyond yesterday. it was great. 8/10. great style and atmosphere.

RogueSpear

10-14-2002, 02:18 PM

I've seen three of Fulci's movies: Zombie, The Beyond, & The City of Living Dead. I didn't like City of the Living Dead but loved the other two.

Aside from the great gore, the thing I love most about Fulci is the atmosphere he creates. In The Beyond especially. There were some very creepy shots in that movie. The outside shot of the house with the zombies walking around inside was perfect as was the awesome ending.

I still have to watch the other two Fulci movies that I own: Don't Torture a Duckling and House by the Cemetary. Hopefully they will be just as good as the other ones I liked.

radikill

10-14-2002, 03:08 PM

Bear with me here as I go all pseudo-intellectual on yer asses.

Fulci is an artist. I think he uses gore to lure the mass movie-going crowd to check out his films. Once he has the crowd, he treats them to some striking visual images - some including gore, some not.

Personally, I have found many of the gore scenes in his films to be poorly done. But I decided he's not going for realism in his movies. They are artistic renditons of life (and beyond) designed to make you feel more than think.

As a director, he's fair. As a visual artist, he's great. If he's not greater than Argento (I have trouble deciding myself), Fulci is right up there with him.

Jewbo

10-14-2002, 11:47 PM

fulci is the man. i have seen a few of his flick and tho some are terrible (demonia) most are superb. i say check out cat in the brain (nightmare concert) fulci stars in it and its filled with gore.

Hans, wihout Franz

10-15-2002, 12:02 AM

Fulchi is one of those directors that when he was good(The Beyond, Don't Torture a Duckling, Gates of Hell, Zombie, Murder To The Tune Of Seven Black Notes) he was good but when he was bad(Aneigma, Manhattan Baby, and certain parts of New York Ripper and House by The Cemetary) he was awful. I still think he was very compitent and could do great things but his movie were just a little bit too hot and cold.

MelloJones

10-15-2002, 01:46 PM

There are certain Fulci horror film's I have yet to see, like :
Door to Silence
Sodoma's Ghost
Touch of Death
Voice's from Beyond
House of Clocks
Dangerous Obsession

Has anyone seen these films ? If so Please rate them.

Also I may add I enjoyed Lizard in Woman's Skin, good giallo !

Requiem-for-a-Dream

10-17-2002, 04:14 PM

He has a very unique sense of style. While watching Zombie, I could smell the rotting flesh. But his movies are plotless and incoherent. And yes, he's just trying to shock us but so is Larry Clark who Roger Ebert loves. It's strange how a critic can love one exploitation director and hate another.

Matt

Lord Crumb

10-18-2002, 11:17 AM

Fulci has done nothing but mediocre movies. Not to say I don't enjoy some of them (I own and watch ZOMBIE, THE BEYOND, CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD often), but for the most part, he's done absolute shite. Visually, he's done some alright stuff. I really appreciate the atmosphere in some of his films, but I hate the fact that he ripped off most of his ideas. Jewbo, I hate to say, but CAT IN THE BRAIN was a huge, stinking pile of hot garbage covered in elephant shit. It was just plain awful, not to mention he just ripped off the Dr. Decker plot in NIGHTBREED for it.

countchocula

10-18-2002, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Lord Crumb
I hate the fact that he ripped off most of his ideas.

I haven't seen the films that Fulci allegedly lifted ideas from, but I hear that a lot. Can you cite any concrete examples?

PS-Great fucking avatar!

Dehydrator

10-20-2002, 06:27 AM

Fucli's most appereant rip-offs I know about:

THE BEYOND
Chick gets her throat torn out graphically by her dog. Same scene in SUSPIRIA, just replace Chick with blind man and a lot less gore.

THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY
Kid playing around with creepy puppet for no reason. Creepy puppet's either from Argento's DEEP RED or Bava's KILL BABY KILL.

VOICES FROM THE BEYOND
A man runs through a room that repeats itself. No matter how many times he's running through the door, he's still in the same room. That's Bava's KILL BABY KILL.

THE GATES OF HELL
About halfway through, this movie becomes a ripoff of the way better HORROR HOTEL with Christopher Lee. The entire finale in the crypt is exactly the same as in the aforementioned movie, exept for all the gore.

...

I think it this way: Sometimes, watching a Fulci movie is interesting. He's usually getting good soundtracks, he's not too bad a creating atmosphere and although much of his "infamous" gore is done rather ridicolous, it's still a magnificant piece in his movies. Sometimes. Other times I find him to be a dull wannabe artist who thinks that gore can make a movie ( he obviously thought in the abysmal NIGHTMARE CONCERT, Lord Crump is totally right!), never once taking his audience seriously. I like GATES OF HELL best, nice movie but I think THE BEYOND is totally overrated.

As I said, I find some of what he did "interesting", which is why I keep watching his films. I just watched a bit of his 1969 crime-flick Perversion Story ( I think the original title is "One on top of another") and it's deadly boring so far. Fulci went the same way with nudity he later went with gore, he's obviously sure that when he just throws enough of it onscreen, people will watch. Still curious about DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING, THE BLACK CAT and a bunch of others too.

thebloodfeaster

11-22-2002, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Fisting Ackbar

THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY had the most annoying kid in movie history which made me dislike it no matter what else went on in the film. 4/10

You're right, that kid IS DEFINITELY the most annoying in any movie... ever! I still really really liked the movie though. It's just that everytime I see it, I'm always rooting for that fucking kid to get killed! haha!

countchocula

11-22-2002, 09:44 PM

Yeah, Bob was a little parasite. He inflicted massive wounds to the film all by his lonesome. Still, House by the Cemetery is a halfway decent slasher. The whole bat fiasco is hysterical!

7th son

11-22-2002, 11:28 PM

After viewing some 12 Fulci movies; the last being "Aenigma" about a year ago, I have to say:

In his heydey, he crafted some very interesting films with ghoulish visuals. Unfortunately, he has no idea how to pace any of it.

In the latter junk years, he coughed up some very mediore films with bland visuals. Unfortunately, he has no idea how to pace any of it (still).

I conclude that -- he usually makes me fall asleep. "New York Ripper" is the one feature I'd recommend and that's only because it's so chock full of sleaze and nastiness.

Dude

11-30-2002, 11:02 PM

I'm not really a fan of Italian horror cinema. I think Fulci is a HACK, Argento is a few notches above getting the rank of AMATUER, and Bava being slightly better than the two.

Check out these Bava flicks if you want SOME semblance of a plot.

Shock
Lisa and the devil
Black Sabbath
Mask of Satan
Whip and the Body

the night watchman

12-04-2002, 07:21 PM

My biggest problem with Fulci is that his movies seem slapdash and sloppy when, with just a bit more attention, they could have had real impact. There are great moments in many of his movies, but too many times I find myself chuckling at unintentional humor, or scratching my head at odd editing choices. The gore is sometimes well-wrought, sometimes jaw-droppingly bad, but mostly too lurid to be really effective. It's almost as if Fulci's saying, "Ooh, look! Eye violence! Isn't it gross!"

My favorites would have to be "City of the Living Dead" and "Don't Torture a Duckling." "The Beyond" and "Zombie" have their moments but are, in my opinion, highly overrated, full of bad cuts, baffling logic, and accidental hilarity (why does everyone think the zombie vs shark scene in "Zombie" is so cool?). The rest (that I've seen), are nearly unwatchable.

Fulci certainly had potential, it just seems like he didn't care enough to go that one extra mile.

Requiem-for-a-Dream

12-05-2002, 04:27 PM

Just thought I'd add something else. I didn't make it clear that I love Lucio Fulci's work. My last post actually seemed to bash him. Many of his original works are amazing!

City of the Living Dead- 9/10

Zombie- 9/10, not a rip off at all of Dawn of the Dead.

New York Ripper- 8/10, brutal and unrelenting.

House by the Cemetery- 9/10, Creepy and stylish with an obvious amount of brutal gore, with the most annoying kid.

Matt

Drago Floyd

12-14-2002, 06:15 AM

I seriously need to see some of Fulci's films. The only one I've seen was a heavily cut version of Zombie.

dellamorte dellamore

12-17-2002, 08:46 AM

Easily one of the best in his prime, and when he was inspired artistically, there was no one better except Argento.

I don't agree that he utilized excessive gore simply to lure the mainstream audience, i feel he had an innocent curiosity with cinematic violence and it's devastating effects not only on the characters but the people watching his creations.

He had that rare ability to disgust but mesmerize simultaneosly, in addition to possessing a talent that even a big budget could not achieve, the ability to create nightmare worlds devoid of any sentimentality or hope whatsoever.

Beyond is definitley his most accomplished and technically proficient creation, but City of the Living Dead is the one i feel captured that intense feeling of dread, doom , and utter hopelessness. A genuine hell on earth scenario with no heroes to save the day, just actor's in a passion play ( had to throw some Della in there ). The low budget look added immensely to the dark foreboding nature of COTLD, and i couldn't imagine that ambience coming to life if it was shot on expensive film stock with a high end 35 mm camera ( high end at the time of course ). I feel Argento differed in this respect, the excellent film stock and high end cameras were indespensible to creating the hypnotic visuals.

Now some people complain about the one dimensional characters in his films, but as i've said before, i feel it was by design to make them that way. Fulci , in Beyond, Zombie, House ,and COTLD, didn't want the viewer to sympathize or identify with the " protagonists " or " victims " , he purposely made them distant in order to fully realize the dreamlike quality of the narrative. The people in these films just didn't quite exist in reality, they were merely pawns trying to survive in a world gone mad, and everything they did to survive was in vain , in the aforementioned Quilogy ( is that the word for a trilogy that consists of four films ? ). Think about it, when you dream, you're unconscious, out of control, everything that you witness in this state seems distant, cold, sometimes terrifying. That's what his best films capture, the very essence of a waking nightmare.

Argento adopted this very same style with most of his films too, and there is no way they would have affected people the way they did if he didn't.

DR. EGON SWHARZ

12-21-2002, 01:27 PM

LETS GET ONE THING CLEAR FULCI IS THE GODFATHER OF GORE ....HE DID THINGS HIS WAY HE DIDNT COPY JACK SHIT FROM DARIO ARGENSHIT ......WHEN FULCI HAD A VISION HE WENT FOR IT AND HE DIDNT COPY THE DR DECKER CHARACTER FROM NIGHTBREED EITHER FUCKING NIGHTBREDD CAME OUT AFTER CAT DID AND THEN WES CRAVEN COPIED CAT THATS HOW THAT WORKED NEW NIGHTMARE SUCKED ANY WAY AND IN ZOMBIE NOBODY DID ZOMBIES THE WAY FULCI DID ROMERO WAS SO AMAZED WELL JUST LOOK AT DAY OF THE DEAD HIS ZOMBIES STARTED HAVING THE ROTTEN FEEL FULCI FILLED HIS MOVIES WITH NIGHTMARISH VISIONS. THATS ALL FELLOW HORROR GEEKS ..AND REMEMBER FULCI LIVES

the night watchman

12-21-2002, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by DR. EGON SWHARZ
NIGHTBREDD CAME OUT AFTER CAT DID AND THEN WES CRAVEN COPIED CAT THATS HOW THAT WORKED NEW NIGHTMARE SUCKED ANY WAY

Erm . . . what does Wes Craven or "New Nightmare" have to do with either Fulci or "Nightbreed"?

DR. EGON SWHARZ

12-22-2002, 12:28 PM

well if u would read up top someone said that fulci copied the dr decker character from nightbreed for cat in the brain which has a cyco dr in it to but how is that possible when cat came out before nightbreed...and for wes dont get me wrong i like him to but in the new nightmare its about wes playing himself having nightmares the same with cat lucio playing himself having nightmares about his work and so on....do a lil homework and u would know ....well later fellow horror geeks

the night watchman

12-22-2002, 01:18 PM

Write a little more clearly and I might actually understand what you're talking about.

DawnOfTheDead

01-23-2003, 10:25 PM

I think Fulci was a truly great Horror director in that he could create such a creepy atmosphere in all his films. Sure, they all have a bit of sorry dialogue here, a few plot holes there, but thats carping. As with most all Italian horror films, what is truly being strived for is shocking images and strange occurences. His most famous films (commonly known as the Fab 4) are really the best, THE BEYOND being # 1. I am assuming that these 4 movies would be ZOMBIE, THE BEYOND, GATES OF HELL (I like that title more than City of the Walking Dead for some reason heh), and HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY. I, sadly, have the bad version of HOUSE from Vestron Video. Anyway, THE BEYOND is my fave, with GATES coming in second, and HOUSE/ZOMBIE tying in for third.

James Logan

01-29-2003, 03:10 PM

I only saw a few of his movies, and the guy is definitely talented. To all my horror loving friends here in France, he's a freaking legend...and that means something. :p

KillerKlown

01-31-2003, 07:38 PM

I think that Lucio Fulci was indeed the master of gore and was a genius. The films of his that I have seen just blew me away:

The Beyond - 10/10

Zombie- 9.5/10

City of the Living Dead- 9.5/10

The House by the Cemetery- 9/10

The New York Ripper- 8/10

Cyclonus

04-12-2003, 03:12 AM

Sorry guys, but...I just saw The Gates of Hell and didn't like it one bit. This plodding film just reminded me of how good Romero is. His Dawn of the Dead was a great zombie movie, and nothing Fulci did even began to match its power and impact. Pointless, gratuious gore throughout; the least necessary part was when that guy got a drill in the head. Why? Though there is a memorable bit where that girl pukes out her own guts. Anyone hungry now?

the night watchman

04-12-2003, 03:26 AM

"Gates of Hell/City of the Living Dead" is the only Fulci horror movie I like (unless you consider "Don't Torture a Duckling" a horror movie) and, well, as a non-Fulci fan (or would that be Fulci non-fan?) I thought it was pretty good. Lots of lame shit and unintentional humor, but lots of pretty effective moments as well. What's the point of the drill in the head? Here's my take: Reality, and sanity, is fraying. The world, like the movie, is going insane. It supports the overall tone of the movie rather than a coherent progression of plot. And, hey, teleporting zombies? Neat idea, I think.

And, Cyclonus, I whole-heartedly recommend "Don't Torture a Duckling." Not merely a good Fulci movie, as the reviewer for MonsterHunter said, but a good movie. Made me reconsider my opinion of Fulci.

"The Beyond" still sucks, though. :p

Jason13thh

04-12-2003, 04:40 AM

Again I respect him for his 79 - 82 period.

Dehydrator

04-17-2003, 08:50 AM

All Fulci Fans should check out Beatrice Cenci (1969) , by far the best Fulci film I've ever seen, though not horror. Anybody having any trustable source where to get this film in english and uncut - mail me!

Masterbrain

06-08-2003, 03:46 PM

Fulci is the godfather of gore, respect...
Ive seen only these:

Beyond - 5/5
Zombie - 4/5
House by the Cemetery - 3.5/5
City of the Living Dead - 4/5
Voices From the Deep - 2/5
Manhattan Baby - 2/5
Aenigma - 2/5
Black Cat - 3/5
New York Ripper - 4/5

Cronos

06-09-2003, 01:04 PM

Zombie, but its the only one ive seen

dark-angel

05-04-2005, 02:50 AM

Ive recently seen (THe Beyond, City of the Living Dead, Don't Torture a Duckling, and am about to watch THe HOuse by the Cemetery) and personallly I think Lucio Fulci is over-rated...... His movies centre around mindless violence without much in the realms of a coherent plot and acting.....

The Beyond- probably my fav, will no doubt get better with repeated viewings

City of the Living Dead- disappointed zombie flick, had possbily the worst ending ive ever seen.

Dont Torture a Duckling- interesting litle giallo, wasnt a fan of the ending though....

I really like Argento though.......

deep_red101

05-08-2005, 09:48 PM

I think Lucio Fulci was the godfather of gore. He knew how to disgust audiences by looming on the carnage and getting as close as he could. He was good at pacing the gore in his films and maintaining a creepy tone. A lot of his films suffer from incoherent plotting and poor acting but they do have lots of style. Here is what I've seen of his work:

- Don't Torture A Duckling (8/10)
A similar brutal killing occurs in this as it does in The Beyond. I think people should check this out if they've only been exposed to Fulci's zombie pictures because it shows that he could utilize good storytelling abilities. The acting is also better.

- Zombie (10/10)
This is my favourite and what I think is Fulci's best. I gave it a perfect rating even though it may be rough around the edges in regards to ridiculous acting. It is his most fun to watch.

- City of the Living Dead (7/10)
Maybe his most creepy film. There's fog and wind pretty much everywhere. The drilling and puking scenes are nasty. The burial scene is effectively tense.

- The Beyond (8/10)
What brings this ranking down is the fake spider scene and the moronic doctor that takes too long to realize how zombies die. The rest is pretty good and the atmosphere is great. That opening is hard to watch for its brutality.

- The House by the Cemetary (5/10)
This is an incredibly derivative and incoherent film with the most horrible dubbing on the child. I think it was a woman trying to talk like a young boy. I still liked the atmosphere and the music though.

- The New York Ripper (6/10)
It's brutal and exploitative, but underneath that is a surprisingly well-crafted giallo. A few cuts and this would have been higher.

- Manhattan Baby (1/10)
Fulci's absolute worst from those I've seen. The only part worth mentioning is the bird attack. That's done well but the rest is boring and stupid.

poetoftragedy

05-29-2005, 05:10 PM

First, let me state that I cherish Fulci, Argento, Soavi and (both) Bava’s films along with
many other European directors. Yes, each has their faults and their works are not perfect
as a whole, each has extremely bad films under their belts; however, if you look at the
whole picture and appreciate their artistic contributions that help define a genre you can
step away from some of the many valid point each of you have stated for your likes and
dislikes.

I think its important (at least to me) to enjoy each for the aesthetic and atmospheric value,
sometimes a movie just stinks and we should just shrug it off, but if we dive deeply into
what each director has given in form of visual, style and originality we can find the start
of an era that would influence many of the younger directors. While I have read various
arguments on many sites how either Argento or Fulci is the better, why choose between
the two? Both men gave to the world many distinct visions of the macabre nightmares
that obviously fascinate us greatly. Suspiria, Zombie, Deep Red, The Beyond, Tenebre,
City Of The Living Dead and so many more should be celebrated together and not
pivoted against each other for each makes a fine addition to any horror fans collection.

Jason13thh

07-12-2005, 03:23 AM

I would like to find his crime movies and his giallos but they are really hard to track down.
I don't have a multi-zone dvd so it's difficult and anyway to import them that cost a lot.

Rokyracoon68

07-14-2005, 11:31 PM

i love his movies. just dont take em seriously and have fun with them.

The Beyond-*** out of ****

i liked beyond, it was pretty creepy and the gore and violence was great. the ending was a little stupid...

City of the Living Dead-**** out of ****

this movie was a lot of fun. again, the gore here is great and the acting is pretty good also. also a few pretty creepy scenes.

Zombi 2-**** out of ****

An all out fun zombie film. a lot of fun zombie action, and less story involved. great gore!

House by the Cemetary-**1/2 out of ****

ehhh, and okay film by fulci. slow at times, but a little creepy.

Jason13thh

07-15-2005, 04:43 AM

Again: total respect for his 79-82 period.

I have not seen Don't Torture .... yet. (too hard to find here in Belgium and my dvd player is Z2,so)

Professor_White

08-17-2005, 05:00 PM

I love Fulci man. I think his 79' through 82' period was amazing and he made some great films. I think The Beyond was his best of the bunch. Classic.

Dehydrator

08-20-2005, 03:33 AM

Anyone seen Four of the Apocalypse ?
It's been released uncut on a very pricey DVD in germany now and I wonder if I should pick it up.

Jason13thh

08-30-2005, 05:55 PM

I have heard some good things 'bout his crepuscular western.

JurassicMik

09-10-2005, 10:32 PM

It's kind of hit and miss for me with Fulci.

The Beyond- Waaaaaaaay overrated. Some nice visuals but I found most of it boring and the abundance of stupid scenes killed it for me. 4/10

City of the Living Dead- My favourite horror Fulci has done. Some great atmosphere and creepy scenes, and the chopped up story was at least a little more coherent than in the Beyond. 8/10

House by the Cemetery- Found this really boring. Some good kill scenes but overall it did nothing for me. 3/10

Zombie- Very good although I have to be in the mood for watching it. Really drags in parts but the creepy atmosphere really make up for it, and the zombie jamboree towards the end kicks ass. 8/10

New York Ripper- Bad movie. A few good effects I guess. 2/10

Manhatten Baby- One of the worst movies I've ever seen. 1/10

Conquest- Pretty bad movie but it's so inept that it actually becomes entertaining. 5/10

Contraband- This is a cool gangster flick he did. The gore level is insane for a non horror movie and I found it pretty entertaining. Also Fabio Testi is the star and he kicks ass. 7/10

Four of the Apocalypse- IMO this is his best movie. The story and characterizations were surprisingly well done for a Fulci movie and there are some really great moments in it. Also has the gore and sadistic scenes you'd come to expect from one of his movies, and a great surreal soundtrack. 9/10

Well that's what I think of his flicks that I've seen. After seeing Four of the Apocalypse and City of the Living Dead I gained quite a bit more respect for him as a filmmaker.

Gian-Sergio

12-09-2005, 05:28 PM

I Loved Gates of Hell, Zombie and The Beyond.

I didn't like Four of the Apocalypse.

I would like to see his other flicks.

Cronos

12-14-2005, 03:19 PM

just finished watching Touch Of Death which i found to be very entertaining and pretty damn gory. although most of the acting was complete shite

Scream_Kid

02-05-2006, 11:57 AM

From what I've seen of Fulci so far (The Beyond, City of the Living Dead), he's very overrated. City of the Living Dead is officially a steaming pile of horse shit, and The Beyond was only a few steps up, going to the level of a cat shitting in a litter box.

The Beyond- 5/10
It had SOME plot, but I had trouble following it, a lot of gorey scenes, but i found them redundant and kind of pointless, some stuff taken directly from Argento (see: Suspiria), and a lot of random "plot" twists taht made little or no sense. This movie is definitely way over hyped.

City of the Living Dead- 2/10
I give this a 2/10 simply because of the puking her guts out scene and the drill-thru-the-head scene. No Plot, HORRIBLE ending, and SLOW AS HELL. 'nuff said.

So far, Italian horror is grossly overrated for me. Anyone willing to suggest a movie or two that'll change my viewpoint?