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countchocula
10-17-2002, 10:11 PM
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MINOR SPOILERS

The Phantasm series is remarkably inconsistent. Not only does the quality vary from one entry to the next; the mood, style, tone, and even the subgenre is a variable. Audiences were introduced to The Tall Man through a bleak, surreal film. The original is a love/hate flick and is severely inaccessible, which pushes it into the “acquired taste” category (I’m surprised it did so well at the box office). Personally, it doesn’t do much for me. I dig the atmosphere and of course, I dig the villains, but the mediocre acting turns me off. Also, the pace is a tad too leisurely for my liking. Thankfully, Phantasm II quickened the proceedings and cranked up the sleaze dial. We’re treated to gratuitous nudity and violence that doesn’t leave much to the imagination. The tone was slightly different this time around as well. Camp is intertwined with the Phantasm saga, but it’s not overdone. Read that last sentence carefully. I stated that Phantasm II worked because the camp WAS NOT overdone. I wonder what it would have been like if Coscarelli had thrown too much cheese into his sequel. Oh, wait! I know exactly what it would have been like. It would have been something like Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead! Unfortunately, dumb slapstick infects this tale. I detest it when horror collides with slapstick. The results are never as funny as they’re intended to be, in my opinion (Army of Darkness is a prime example of this).

The first 10-15 minutes are stunningly solid. We get a cool title sequence, a well-crafted car explosion, mutant dwarf fu (Joe Bob Briggs is my mentor), The Tall Man spitting out some cool dialogue, and a rabid, maniacal nurse. Thus far, things are looking good, but from there on, the eminence subsides. This film alone is as inconsistent as the series is! I guess I’ll start with the acting. Reggie Bannister can play Reggie in his sleep. Most of the time, he handles his role naturally and doesn’t exaggerate his demeanor or facial expressions. To me, that’s impressive because in a film of this nature, it would be far too easy to go way over the top. Reggie doesn’t fall victim to melodramatic acting and shows restraint where it’s needed. Am I the only who prefers James LeGros (Phantasm II) as Mike? Michael Baldwin does OK here, but his performance never seems focused. I don’t know. Maybe that’s just me. However, he was credible in the original, especially for a child actor. Speaking of child actors, Kevin Connors is tolerable as Tim, the orphan who has a knack for setting up Home Alone-style booby traps in his desolate house. He wasn’t as grating as I had pinned him down to be. Gloria Lynne Henry is agitating as Rocky, the tough-as-nails dyke who serves no purpose whatsoever to the storyline. Eeesh, Reggie was really showing his desperation in this flick. His “everlasting erection” shtick was really getting old at this point. It made way for appalling jokes, and interrupted the pace for no good reason. Case in point, his ridiculous dream sequence. He has a conversation with Jody while having anal sex with Rocky. ??!???!!!!? There are certain things that just feel out of place in a Phantasm opus, and that is one of them.

Many other sequences felt out of place. In particular, I couldn’t stand the “bumbling thieves” subplot. Dear God, did this entry really need goofy zombie action? I wouldn’t mind seeing that in something akin to Dead Alive, but it was horribly executed here. Yeah, it provided for some senseless entertainment, but as soon as that sequence was over, we would shift back to ethereal horror. The transitions from one extreme to the next weren’t exactly genuine. As frowned upon as it is, I relished Phantasm: OblIVion for the simple fact that it brought the series back to its serious roots. Plus, it gave us a look into The Tall Man’s cryptic, enigmatic past. But I can’t complain too much. I did have fun with Phantasm III. The action level was high, the acting was solid from most of the players involved, and there’s a whole big bunch of the flying spheres! Even at its worst, this series is still entertaining…BOOOOOOOOOY!!!!!!!

My rating-2.5/5

The Claw
10-17-2002, 10:30 PM
Phantasm 1 and 2 are friggin great movies. 3 is just okay at best and four is very confusing and bad(well there all confusing but at least entertaining) still i had some fun with this one you can never go wrong with midgets with hooded robs.

XCoRyX
10-17-2002, 11:07 PM
After the first 2,this series went nowhere special besides down the hill....this was absolutely pathetic,such a letdown,completely boring and unbelieveable,and confusing because of how bad it was,i cant sweat how bad this one was....not recommended to even the fans of the phantasm series,it will just let you down....1/10

The Prowler
10-20-2002, 12:34 PM
I have to agree with Cory 100% on this one. This movie was pathetic and can't believe Coscarelli put his name on this project. What happened to the great atmosphere and music from the first 2 films. This is a pointless sequal as well as the 4th one. The only redeeming qualities was to see The Tall Man and Reggie again. There is a reason why was the first one was a hit in the theaters and why these are straight to video junk. 3/10

countchocula
02-08-2003, 04:48 PM
A BUMP for the hell of it.

thebloodfeaster
02-08-2003, 05:14 PM
I didn't think Phantasm III was nearly as bad as alot of you are making it out to be. I didn't get bored for a minute during it. I give it a 7/10.

Tarman
02-11-2003, 03:35 PM
I agree with you thebloodfeaster.Just because it wasnt as seroius as the other two films doesnt mean its bad.It was more fast paced then the other two.The acting was basically the same and the ending was pretty cool.It just leaves you hanging and sometimes I like ending a movie like that.Makes you wonder what the hell is going to happen next.I think the movie is 3 out of 5 stars.Even so if you match this 3rd Phantasm to any other movie I still say its better then a lot.

countchocula
02-11-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Tarman
Just because it wasnt as seroius as the other two films doesnt mean its bad.

True; it's just that Lord of the Dead's comedic elements weren't terribly funny. Comedy is objective, though. You may have gotten more laughs out of it than I did.

Tarman
02-12-2003, 11:22 AM
I dont think I did get any laughs out of it.I see what your saying but for a third entry to the series it could have been a lot worse then what it was.I still think that its worthy of the 2 before it.It didnt do anything that Evil Dead 2 or A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 didnt do.Tried to add a little humor to it.I do get your point Count.Im not trying to start any shit with you.

countchocula
02-12-2003, 06:32 PM
NOES3's humor never got out of hand, amounting to nothing more than a few campy one-liners. P3 went way over the top, and strayed too far from the series' solemn roots. I'm not a big fan of ED2. In my book, it committed the same felony that this film did. But I didn't completely abhor P3. I was never bored, but it doesn't have as much resonance or staying power as it could/should have had.

thebloodfeaster
02-12-2003, 08:23 PM
I didn't find the majority of stuff in Phantasm 3 funny either... but it didn't seem like it was trying to be all that funny either. Before watching, with the way alot of people were talking about it, I was expecting it to have lots of jokes or something, but I guess I missed alot of them. I really didn't see where they were going over the top trying to add comedic elements and such.

Tarman
02-13-2003, 04:52 PM
I think this movie adds to the series and is a good flick to pop in and kick back and enjoy.I remember seeing this on laserdisc when it came out and I liked it alot and still do.Like I said it could have been worse.Just one of those movies other hate and I like.

MisterTwister
02-16-2003, 10:29 AM
i still enjoy Phantasm 3. it's Gory and Entertaining. A 7/10.

teenkiller
05-18-2003, 04:40 AM
The Phantasm series sounds very different and very hard to follow. I have yet to see this sequel though I really want to. Here is hoping for a dvd release. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

teenkiller
06-01-2007, 09:04 PM
SPOILERS FOR PHANTASM 3 ABOUND!!

Bringing this thread back up because I FINALLY got to see the film.

Although not on the same level as the first two I still found this to be a very worthy entry in the series. The beginning and the end were particularly cool. Picking up where the second one left off was a good idea with Reggie and Mike still trying to track down the Tall Man. When I had heard that the Phantasm series took a more comedic approach with Lord of the Dead I groaned. I immediately thought of FREDDY'S DEAD or Army of Darkness. Luckily, much to my surprise, Phantasm III never sunk to those absurd depths. The story of the series continues to unravel in a relatively engaging way.

Reggie is still kick ass but this time he is given two new sidekicks to align himself with in hopes of taking on the strange and evil forces lurking about. The kid, Tim, actually wasn't even too annoying except for his introductory scene where I thought he was going to be the next Kevin McCallister.

Rocky on the other hand? Well Rocky was a bitch and I really could have given a fuck about her character. Reggie must have really been desparate because she is also ass ugly. I mean in Phantasm 2 we get to see him drooling over the stunning Chemy (short for Alchemy of course) and here we get... eh, I don't even wan't to think about her.

A. Michael Baldwin returns as Mike which is pretty cool I suppose but he really isn't given much to do. I mean he is absent from about %80 of the film. This is purely "The Reggie Show" here folks. He does show up a bit more near the end.

Bill Thornbury reprises his role as Jody and I welcomed him with open arms. Seems his acting has gotten better since the first one and I thought having him come back as a floating sphere was neat.

The scene with Reggie preferring to finish up with Rocky instead of paying attention to his best friend who died ten years ago and approaches him in apparition form bothered me more than anything. This humor did not gel with the substance that this series has provided and felt severely out of place. A shame too considering it was such a crucial scene. It was Reggie's dream though and I prefer to write it off as just that.

The end, as with Part 2, really steps it up though. Story wise it was superb. We find out that the silver spheres actually contain the brains of past victims. Cool. The mega mausoleum was interesting as well. Having The Tall Man hate the cold was a nice little touch but having a sphere burst out of his OWN head was just awesome! I mean look at the implications here. Is The Tall Man himself just a pawn in some EVEN GREATER beings grand scheme?

Naturally the ending doesn't explain dick. Leaves you just hanging. I'll be looking forward to OblIVion...

I was going to rate this film a 7.5 but since the ending really won me over in a big way I had to up the score.

Phantasm III: Lord of the Dead - 8.5/10

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Cronos
06-01-2007, 09:11 PM
altough not as good as the second film i really enjoyed Lord Of The Dead. the acting isn't great but the film more than makes up for that by being very entertaining throughout and having a number of very cool scenes

9/10

Ratlehed
06-02-2007, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by teenkiller
SPOILERS FOR PHANTASM 3 ABOUND!!


Naturally the ending doesn't explain dick. Leaves you just hanging. I'll be looking forward to OblIVion...



Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.


The ending to 3 is pretty cool but it still leaves you guessing. Oblivion is worse as far as questions and answers go. I once read a review that stated "the script for Phantasm 4 must have been written by monkies on acid". Maybe it was.
I use to not like 3, but after a few viewings I warmed up to it. The secondary characters are not as good.

teenkiller
06-02-2007, 05:22 PM
I agree with that. It's not that I was against bringing in a couple of secondary characters to back up Reggie, I just didn't think these two were the greatest choices. Tim was actually okay but Rocky should have never existed. When they first introduced her with Tanesha I knew one of them was going to die. I was just hoping it wouldn't be Tanesha because Rocky was hideous. I didn't get my wish but it didn't completely ruin my viewing experience either. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

!MorganOnyx!
06-03-2007, 06:11 PM
He he yeah it's true ROCKY was butt ugly, but I just loved her! I thought her and REGGIE made a great team and I was so gutted when she left at the end. I just really enjoyed her smart mouth, tough nature and cool as fuck attitude and found it endearing how compassionate she was towards these strangers she had just met. I guess it takes all sorts. In any other film I may well have hated her guts!

Yes, the endings of the PHANTASM movies are always spot on!

"IT'S NEVER OVER!" :D

countchocula
09-06-2008, 05:07 PM
BUMP

poopontheshoes7
09-07-2008, 01:40 PM
Hell, I like it. 4 is where they dropped the ball (hehe) imo. The comedic elements bothered me at first, but I got over it and found that Phantasm 3 still had loads of the Phantasm charm. Like many have said, the ending was kick ass.

7/10

g1ng3rsnap9ed
09-07-2008, 03:47 PM
The worst of the series,had the potential to be great up until Rocky and Tim were introduced w/t the bumbling criminals who kept on showing up Gawwd,everybody new introduced in this philm sucks!!Reggie's still kewl,Mike is kewl again also,and Jody's alright.

P3:2/4

"Dominate me baby!!"