Lets discuss: Harry Potter

[Horror whore]

As you all may know by know, I am a Harry Potter freak, I just can't help it. I, like everyone else, am eagerly awaiting Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix. Until it comes out, lets discuss what we predict will happen, since we know a lot of new information on everything will be in book five. Until then, lets discuss what we think will happen.

To start us off, here's a quote from book four that has me puzzled....

"'And he [Voldemort] was right - he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face.' For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like Triumph in Dumbledore's eyes."

And on an AOL chat from a while ago, someone asked JK Rowling about it:

Jesse Kornbluth: There so many people with "Harry Potter" screen names! One asks: Why did Dumbledore have a look of triumph in his eyes at the end of book four?

J.K. Rowling: Good question... excellent question, in fact, and like all the best questions I get asked, I can't answer it! Because it would give too much away. However, well-spotted. Have fun guessing... someone's bound to get it right!

And here's another thing that boggles my mind. Why was Voldemort seeking Lily and James Potter. At no time in non of the books is any reason given for the deaths of Harry's parents... :confused:

Now, go on, discuss!

[El Bracamonti]

i haven't read all the books, but didn't it say in the movie that voldermort killed harry's parents when they tried to save him? i don't really know, but i think that's what i heard.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Horror whore

And here's another thing that boggles my mind. Why was Voldemort seeking Lily and James Potter. At no time in non of the books is any reason given for the deaths of Harry's parents... :confused:


I believe Voldemort was just hunting down good wizards. Kinda like Darth Vader hunting down good Jedi. But the power of Lily's love for Harry killed him.
But that's never actually said in the books. So I think it's possible there's another reason Voldemort was seeking Lily and James, and that reason could be a) Harry himself, b) Something they owned or kept secret, c) How in a Muggle's name should I know?. :)

Waiting with impatience for ORDER OF PHOENIX (that's B5's title right?) to come out though...that's for sure.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Horror whore

"'And he [Voldemort] was right - he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face.' For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like Triumph in Dumbledore's eyes."


As for this, I'm not sure, but I got a theory too -- maybe it means Voldemort isn't "allergic" to love and Good as he used to be before coming back to life. And that, eventually, would mean he could be saved...y'know, he has a weakness...he could be turned back or something. And that's why Dumbledore would be satisfied.

Of course, I know it sounds very STAR WARS-ish, but it's the only theory I got. The only other theory I got is: Dumbledore is a motherf****** traitor...but I can't believe THAT. ;)

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

I have only a couple of things to say, regarding HP series. I love them, and Dumbledore, and Hagrid will die before the end. Hagrid will die in the next novel. Speculation, but all clues point torwards it,...

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**
I have only a couple of things to say, regarding HP series. I love them, and Dumbledore, and Hagrid will die before the end. Hagrid will die in the next novel. Speculation, but all clues point torwards it,...

*Obi-Wan style*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I agree and think Dumbledore will die in the 6th or 7th novel, that's the way most classical "fairy tale" structures go, but why Hagrid? I like the bloke, and I can't really find any clues at him gettin' fried...

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

...if you need some serious discussion on these theories, than I would tell you to go, do a search for Harry Potter on any major search engine, visit the site, and look at the message board - almost every one of these fan-sites have one.

And, based on some of their theories, (I agree with them) Hagrid will die in the 5th book. J.K. Rowling has already said that there will be more deaths - many more deaths. And she said she has had to write a death that was very, very hard for her, in this book. Now, with this information, alot of people have deduced that Hagrid will be the one to bite it. But, it could also be Mrs. Weasly, as I think Rowlings mother died, when she was young. It could also be any of the other Weaslys, except Ron, I think. Although I think Ron will also die. Oh, and the last word of Book 7, is scar. Rowlings confirmed it. She said she already has the 7th books last chapter written - as an epilouge of sorts, that tells what happened to everyone afterwards.

[James Logan]

Cool. Thanks for the info, Fokker.

Personally, I like when characters die. It takes the story to a whole other level...it just shouldn't be overdone.

As for the last word of the series...well...it probably means Harry's scar still has a very important part to play.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

I know I am probably just pulling this out of my butt, but I think that in Book 7, Harry will end up sacrificing himself, n order to save either Ron, or Hermoine, and maybe one of them will inherit this scar. Pretty stupid, but it is just a thought that popped into my head.

[James Logan]

Could happen. I don't know if the kids/fans would let Harry die without rioting in all the major cities of the world. :)

[James Logan]

What interests me too would be to see the position of Draco Malfoy in the way things will go on. I mean, we all pretty much know his dad Lucius is one of Voldemort's fans, but that doesn't mean Draco is evil too, right? I mean, he is one arrogant sonuvabitch :) but I somehow believe he'll turn out to be a good guy in the end. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm an idiot, but I think that's how it'll happen.

[James Logan]

BIG, BAD, MOTHERFUCKIN' BUMP!

:cool:

[dh1989]

First, for my Dumbledore theory. I think Dumbledore is proud of Harry. He has taight him enough skills and Harry is has learned enough about bravery at Hogwarts, he can escape the dark lord without even his mother's protective love with him. He is proud that a normal Harry with no great magical bond/protection could outwit and escape Voldie.

Second, I think it will be revealed that James Potter was an Auror and a relative of Godric Gryffindor. Remember, in PoA Voldie only wanted Harry and James. He told Lily to stand aside, but she refused so he killed her. I think, like Godric, James was a great dark wizard fighter and I believe Harry is the key to a great secret, or power, Godric left behind, much like Voldemort was a key to the chamber of secrets because he was the heir of Slytherin. I believe Harry is the heir of Gryffindor and he, with the sword of Godric Gryffindor, will be the only true person who can kill the Heir of Slytherin and destroy the roots of evil magic. There is already a clue to the Potter/Godric connection. The Potters lived in Godric's Hollow?

I pose a question to all of you other Potter fans: Who will take the extra place on the Gryffindor Quidditch team now that Wood has left. I believe it'll be Seamus Finnigan.

[dh1989]

As for Rowling's mysterious Book 5 death. I 100% believe it will be Dumbledore. It would make Harry's character more vulnerable. There would be no more "Who is the wizard Voldemort always feared?". Hogwarts would not hold anything to make Voldemort turn away in fear. He could attack, with the Death Eaters, head on. Ram down the doors and start mayhem and murdering.


I PRAY it is not Ginny(like some fans think). She is such a wonderful character, my number one favorite. I would cry all over the new book if she dies.

What do you guys think on HP romance?

I'd say---------

Harry/Ginny
Ron/Hermione
Hagrid/Madame Maxime
Neville/Parvati Patil
Seamus/Lavendar Brown
Dean Thomas/Anjelina Johnson
Cho Chang/Fred or George Weasley
Snape/New female DADA teacher
Lupin/Prof. Vector
Draco/Pansy Parkinson
Filch/Prof. Sprout
Katie Bell/Oliver Wood
Hedwig, Erroll, and Hermes will all become good buds
Percy/Penelope Clearwater/Work for the Ministry(A LOVE TRIANGLE!!!)
One person will stay single for sure...... Minerva McGonagall

[Horror whore]

Does anyone else think Neville might become evil? That may sound funny but I think he will... It has been said in one of the books that Harry and Ron act just like James Potter and Sirius Black did when they attended Hogwarts, and Petter Pettegrew was a clumsy tag-along with them. The same thing could be said about Neville being a clumsy tag-along with Harry and Ron. Petter turned to the dark side so why couldn't Neville?! But my belief is flawed since Voldemort had to do with Neville's parents' insanity (they are insane right, I think I remember reading in book 4 they were in a mental hospital...).

And yesterday I read that book 5 is 38 chapters long(!), book for was 37 chapters long. And about the death, I think it will be Hagrid. He really serves no purpose anymore other than to get made fun of by people.

[dh1989]

Nah. For the reason you cited. Neville, in my opinion, would never join Voldemort. He has had to live with his gran and know his parents do not recognize him all because of Voldemort. And yes his parents live in St. Mungos' Hospital for Magical Injuries and Maladies.

[Congerking]

jk said that one of the major character will die before the end of the series. I think it will be Harry. for some strange reason I think that at the very end, he will have to make a choice and will sacrifice himself to save someone/something/or other people. what you think?

[James Logan]

Well, I'd be surprised if no more than ONE character dies before the end...I personally think books six and seven will be an all-out slaughter. :p

[The Other]

I have read the first three books (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, & Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban). And those are the only three I own as well. I wanna get the fourth one to own and read (Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire). But right now I'm re-reading the first three because it's been a while and I'm currently half way through the first again and I just started today.

The first film is more faithful to the book than I had originally thought. There are a few ommisions and a few events that were moved around. But overall, it's pretty much just like the book.

[Horror whore]

You haven't read The Goblet of Fire?! I consider it the weakest of the series so far (still superb), but it definitley has the best (and most most important) climax of the series so far!

[Congerking]

I agree and disagree with you. I think that the third and fourth books were the best in the series. And I agree with you in saying that the fourth book has the climax of the series. Can't wait for THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX.

[dh1989]

I would not say Goblet of Fire is the weakest of the books(its my second favorite after Prisoner). And the climax is the most important, but the not most exciting. That'd be the scene with Sirius/Harry/Snape/Lupin/Ron/Hermione/Peter in PRISONER.

[The Other]

Well, I did start to read the fourth one once, but I only got to like page 80 and didn't get to finish.

I quit reading Book 1 for tonight, but when I pick back up tomorrow I will start with Chapter 12 - "The Mirror of Erised".

I really wish they would have added Peeves. I almost forgot about him and I think he would have added some more humor into the film. It's not like he would have added more time to the films run-time because he is suppose to appear in some of the scenes in the movie, but they were obviously written differently from the book to exclude him.

Personally, my fave book so far is Book 3, "The Prisoner of Azkaban". It added many plot twists to the Harry Potter saga. And Sirius was pretty cool, can't wait to see who is cast as him and what he'll look like. Another thing I remember was the story added to Ron's rat Scabbers. That was a surprise, I remember.

From the three I've read, here's how I'd rank them:

1. The Prisoner of Azkaban
2. The Sorcerer's Stone
3. The Chamber of Secrets

Although they're all great.

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by dh1989
I would not say Goblet of Fire is the weakest of the books(its my second favorite after Prisoner). And the climax is the most important, but the not most exciting. That'd be the scene with Sirius/Harry/Snape/Lupin/Ron/Hermione/Peter in PRISONER.

My main reason for liking GoF the least is because it doesn't feel like a true Harry Potter book.

[list=1]
There's no Hogwarts Quidditch! I know there the Quidditch World Cup but it just isn't the same.
Theres way too much happening at once. "Who wants me dead?" "How am I going to get through the next task alive?" "etc...
I've always hated the idea of having the Beauxbatons and Durmstrang students staying at Hogwarts. That makes too many damn students!
The book just feels rushed. And it was, J.K. Rowling was forced by the publishers to write the book in just a year...
[/list=1]

But I still love the book! ;)

[The Other]

I finished THE SORCERER'S STONE again Sunday morning. I'm now re-reading THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS. I'm on chapter 15 now... "Aragog".

:cool:

[urbanlegend23]

This is how my order goes:

1. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - 10/10, this is probably the best book I've ever read. The Dementors were really scary!

2. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 10/10, took me a while to get through but it was worth it! Brilliant writing.

3. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone - 9/10, that is the original title. A great book!

4. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - 8/10, funny how I thought this was better on film but worse on the pages. Still great, just a bit slow for my liking.

Does anyone have any information about when "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" will be released?

I can't wait to find out everything in the final books, like why Voldemort couldn't kill Harry, and what his scar means, and why Harry would've been good in Slytherin...any theories?

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by urbanlegend23
Does anyone have any information about when "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" will be released?


It will be announced very, very soon. J.K. Rowling said at the CoS premier in London that it would be a few more weeks until she finishes the book, and that was over a month ago....

[Congerking]

ya, so she should be finished by the end of the year. BUT, then how long will it take for distrubutors to send out all the copies, print them out, and get ready for it. I hope it is before may like i am hearing.


P.S.
It better not be another 3 years for book #6

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by Congerking
ya, so she should be finished by the end of the year. BUT, then how long will it take for distrubutors to send out all the copies, print them out, and get ready for it. I hope it is before may like i am hearing.


It takes 5-6 months to print the books. So the book should be released around May - June...

[The Other]

Oh jeez, I finished reading THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS a while ago. I just started reading THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN again yesterday...only read the first chapter though. Been busy, haven't had time to read. But I started at least.

[xirtam]

As I was re-reading The Sorcerer's Stone, I noticed something that I didn't notice before that JUST MAY turn out to be a major plot point. Here it is:

WHO IS THE BLOODY BARON?
Why is he covered in blood?
And why is Peeves so afraid of him?

Harry asked why he is covered in blood, and he was answered (I forgot by who, I think it was Nick the Nearly Headless Ghost) with "Nobody knows" or something to that effect. I think this could turn out to be one of those things that you read, then forget about completely, and then later smacks you in the face with something completely unexpected (JKR seems to like these).

Of course, it may be just something that was used to add mystery to Hogwarts, but who knows?

[Congerking]

Originally posted by The Other
Oh jeez, I finished reading THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS a while ago. I just started reading THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN again yesterday...only read the first chapter though. Been busy, haven't had time to read. But I started at least.

I read THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN for the second time over the weekend. Better than the first time. The best book so far. If you haven't read it, GO READ IT ALREADY !!!

[noisy_brut]

Originally posted by Horror whore
You haven't read The Goblet of Fire?! I consider it the weakest of the series so far (still superb), but it definitley has the best (and most most important) climax of the series so far!


I agree Globlet has some of the weakest stuff, but also has some of the strongest stuff. **Spoilers** I started to lose interest during the dance chapter **End Spoilers**

[Congerking]

this has MAJOR SPOILERS for GoF. My question is this:

































Fudge doesn't believe that Voldemort had come back. Earlier in the book, Dumbledore had a pensieve. Why doesn't Harry just use the pensieve on himself and extract the memory of the even after grabbing the trophy into it???

[Horror whore]

I have no clue what you just asked....:confused:

[xirtam]

That would actually be pretty sensible, Congerking. Sensible, but way too simple.

[Congerking]

Originally posted by xirtam
That would actually be pretty sensible, Congerking. Sensible, but way too simple.

ya, i thought that would be too simple also. but anyway, in order of the phoenix, people should be dying, so i guess everyone bill believe he-who-must-not-be-named returns to power.

[Horror whore]

Only 90 days until.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38984000/jpg/_38984333_usversion.jpg

[Annie Hall]

This cover scares me a bit. How did Harry's jawline get so defined? His face elongated? He was but a wee lad in the 4th book! This one looks MUCH darker..I fear for our sweet little Hogwarts tots.

Looking forward to it, though

[SubMethod]

That's a lot less colorful than the other covers. I like it though. I'm about to start GoF, and will be ready to read OoP when it comes out.

[EoghainFOKeeffe]

I've never been sucked into the whole Harry Potter craze. I think it's because I've never been interested in books about sorcery and wizardry. However, I think JK Rowling is an excellent writer - I love her prose. She's very precise, yet evocative at the same time. There's a little cold Britishness in her prose that seems to sharpen all of the images without making the reader feel distant.

However...

I wish...

I wish...

I wish...

I WISH...

I wish I had bought a first edition hardback of THE PHILOSOPHERS STONE! Have you SEEN how much money a mint-condition, first edition hardback of that book is worth? MY GOD!

[DevilMonkey]

Percy Is going to the dark side

[bob]

How about a Dumbledore-Voldemort duel?

Now that would be cool. And Ron kicks Draco's ass.

So much cool stuff could happen with this series.:D

[Annie Hall]

Originally posted by bob
How about a Dumbledore-Voldemort duel?

Voldemort: Harry....(hoooo hheeee) (hoooo heeeee) I am your father...(hooo heeee) (hooooo heeee)

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Annie Hall
Voldemort: Harry....(hoooo hheeee) (hoooo heeeee) I am your father...(hooo heeee) (hooooo heeee)


Sorry Harry Potter has to have a creative twist (not saying that twist wasn't creative at the time, but sooo many people copy that!)

[bob]

Uh, didn't you guys read Prisoner of Azkaban?

Harry.....I am your GODfather!!!

[El Intruder]

Originally posted by Annie Hall
This cover scares me a bit. How did Harry's jawline get so defined? His face elongated? He was but a wee lad in the 4th book! This one looks MUCH darker..I fear for our sweet little Hogwarts tots.

Looking forward to it, though


Maybe the sudden change of covers might mean that the series is gonna turn more serious and darker from now on.

As for who's gonna die, for some reason, I think that Harry won't die, like many people say. I think Dumbledore will die, maybe Snape, or Hagrid, but I'm pretty sure that about two or three faculty members will die, and I think that after Dumbledore dies (if he dies in either book 5 or 6), Proffesor McGonagall will be the new Headmistress of the school. If it's students who will die, I'm almost certain that maybe Percy, one or both of the Weasly twins, or one of Harry's other buddies, meaning Dean Thomas, Seamus Finnigan and Neville Longbottom, whom I believe will have an important point in the story later on. Also, for some reason, among all my friends who follow the book, I'm the only one to think that Draco will die, and he does seem to be showing evil tendencies after all. I also agree with Xirtam about the Bloody Baron, and I believe that the Baron might also have something to do in the storyline later on.

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by bob
Uh, didn't you guys read Prisoner of Azkaban?

Harry.....I am your GODfather!!! but sirius was no darth vader he was a "murderer" who wasn't a murderer he was nice but darth vader he was mean uintill the end of the 6ht or i say the 3rd ;)

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by El Intruder
Maybe the sudden change of covers might mean that the series is gonna turn more serious and darker from now on.

As for who's gonna die, for some reason, I think that Harry won't die, like many people say. I think Dumbledore will die, maybe Snape, or Hagrid, but I'm pretty sure that about two or three faculty members will die, and I think that after Dumbledore dies (if he dies in either book 5 or 6), Proffesor McGonagall will be the new Headmistress of the school. If it's students who will die, I'm almost certain that maybe Percy, one or both of the Weasly twins, or one of Harry's other buddies, meaning Dean Thomas, Seamus Finnigan and Neville Longbottom, whom I believe will have an important point in the story later on. Also, for some reason, among all my friends who follow the book, I'm the only one to think that Draco will die, and he does seem to be showing evil tendencies after all. I also agree with Xirtam about the Bloody Baron, and I believe that the Baron might also have something to do in the storyline later on.


Uh...of coarse Harry isn't going to die what are the 6th and 7th books going to be called Hermione Granger and the funeral of Harry Potter??

[Horror whore]

Look at this picture: Click Here. (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/03/book5ad.jpg)

It looks as if they've widened the pages because of the book's length, and it's still 896 pages....!

[Annie Hall]

WOW! Look at that size....if it is indeed bigger....GOD...what a great, great read this will be.

[Annie Hall]

Originally posted by DevilMonkey
Sorry Harry Potter has to have a creative twist (not saying that twist wasn't creative at the time, but sooo many people copy that!)


I was just joking. I meant, since bob proposed a Dumbledore-Voldemort battle, that Voldemort was like a Darth Vader figure, and Dumbledore, Obi Wan.

Just a dumb movie/book geek joke :p