The Ring - spoiler caution - I have questions...

[lily25]

(First time on this site - I'm a little green) I just saw the Ring tonight, and nothing has come close to scaring me that badly in a long time. What a great horror film with out the slasher gore that I'm so tired of! It is smart and slick, and totally disturbing!

I need some opinions from you folks...My friends and I have several theories about Samara that we can't really agree on. Her parents told the towns people that they adopted her, and her mom died during childbirth, but was she possibly "stolen" or kidnapped by the parents? What made her evil? And the records showed that Ann, the mother, had had numerous miscarrages. Did she have these after they got Samara as well? If she had them before Samara, then when did she start to go crazy? Those records were from the mental hospital, so she must have had miscarrages after Samara came along if Samara drove her crazy...

I'd love to hear your thoughts...I'm making myself crazy!

One more thing - the video looks like it could have been outtakes from a Nine Inch Nails video - maybe

[dEmOnPosSesSeD]

I dont get it either? .... I mean the father kept repeating :She Wasnt Suppost to have her" What the heck does that mean anyway? I really want to know, Ive been looking everywhere...NO info ..Oh well maybe someone has som info
Ciao
:rolleyes:

[lily25]

Another Samara theory - perhaps crazy Ann actually concieved Samara and gave birth to her in the mental hospital

[TheHitcher2]

From what I understand, Anna went off and had the baby...I think it was assumed that she adopted it, but in reality she suddenly became pregnant after many, many miscarriages.

[darkface]

the virgin mary possibly. lol idk but i like your guy'z suggestions

[MoNsTeR]

SAMARA is ANNA's child. the reason why her father was all like, "she wasn't even supposed to have her!" or something to that effect, it was because he seriously didn't want her, hence, leading to his negligence of SAMARA's existence. because he ignored her and paid more attention to the horses, she killed the horses. there are two reasons why, one is because her father loved them more than her, and another... they kept her up at night, that's the reason why in the mental hospital during the surveilance camera footage, you don't ever see her lying on the bed, she's either standing, or sitting down, hence, she never sleeps.

the reason why ANNA went off to say that SAMARA was adopted was because of SAMARA's unusual behavior, her sleeping habits, and.. the fact that she killed the horses. it would be a lot more easier for ANNA if she didn't openly announce that SAMARA was hers knowing of SAMARA's insomnia.

ANNA always had miscarriages, and SAMARA was her only child. that's why in the end of the movie, she was all like, "all i wanted was you." and she killed her because there was no way on helping SAMARA.

hope that helps, or.. even right.

//out.

[fdr5]

Mega-Spoiler Caution...This is For Those Who Have Seen The Ring...





My wife and I are still scratching our heads. In the movie, if one is able to view a copy of the tape (as opposed to the original) does that result in some type of cleansing or immunity from the effects of the original version? Is that what the last scene was all about? Was the boy being "innoculated" by viewing a copy? What about the electrode (or whatever it was) Rachel removed during her coughing jag? It resembled wires that were in the box at the Morgan residence. Also, were those wires evident in the photos (x-rays?) of the horses? There seems to be a whole lot of electrocuting going on here (hence the burn marks on the arms)! Was the removal of the wire a factor in Rachel being able to survive beyond the 7th day?

Needless to say, we are planning to return for another viewing and vow to pay closer attention.

[lily25]

Originally posted by fdr5
Mega-Spoiler Caution...This is For Those Who Have Seen The Ring...

My wife and I are still scratching our heads. In the movie, if one is able to view a copy of the tape (as opposed to the original) does that result in some type of cleansing or immunity from the effects of the original version? Is that what the last scene was all about? Was the boy being "innoculated" by viewing a copy?

My understanding was that you have to make a copy yourself to avoid death. As long as you do that you will survive, just watching a copy dosen't make a difference. The final scene was mom making another copy with her son to save him.

[darkface]

*spoiler- even thought the thread is spoiler*

i thought it was a neat idea for immunity. So the whole idea was in order to not die, you have to make a copy, which implies that you care for Samara, so by making a copy, you spread the word about Samara, giving her attention. Attention is all she wanted, she wanted to be known. Because her parents sure as hell didn't give that to her.

The way i took that immunity from the movie, is... Since we're all supposed to die in 7 days from watching that clip in the movie, you have to bring other people to tell people to go see the movie*spreading Samara's attention she needs* in order to live.

[MunkyFeet]

Originally posted by fdr5

What about the electrode (or whatever it was) Rachel removed during her coughing jag? It resembled wires that were in the box at the Morgan residence. Also, were those wires evident in the photos (x-rays?) of the horses? There seems to be a whole lot of electrocuting going on here (hence the burn marks on the arms)! Was the removal of the wire a factor in Rachel being able to survive beyond the 7th day?

the wire was hooked on to samaras arm when she was being questioned in that hospital. it came from the water Naomi's character drank before she started choking.



i got another question:

how did Becca know that she had 4 days left? becca grabbed her hand, made 4 fingers and said she would find out in 4 days what the tape would do

[Ender]

In answer to various questions:

Watching a copy was not "innoculation" it was the act of making a copy that saves you. I disagree with the notion of it proving that you care for Samara though. I saw it as her letting you live because by creating another copy you could help her hurt more people. She was grateful to those who helped spread her evil arround.

Why was he evil? Hmmm...well, there's no concrete answers in the film, but I imagine the constant abuse and neglect from her father had a lot to do with it. Also consider that her freaky psychic powers probably drove her nuts. There's also the possibility (and this is purely conjecture here) that she was simply born an evil creature, in the fashion of THE OMEN. This would likely be supported by Ann's repeated misscarriages. I took the statement that "She wasn't supposed to have a child" to mean that her children were in some fashion dangerous, which is why she was continually miscarrying. They were abominations, evil creatures who weren't mean to live. Finally, by sheer chance, one survived, and that became Samara.

The electrode was indeed of the type used on Samara during her stay at the mental hospital. I imagine it's manifestation was just one of those bizarre things, like the fly on the video tape and the spontaneous nosebleeds, i.e, signs that your time is almost up.

How did Becca know? (Shrugs) Beats me. Just another creepy thing. Adds to the atmosphere and the ominous tone of the movie.

[Ender]

Now that I've given out some answers, I've got a question of my own.

I understood that the "killer tape" was the same one that had gone missing from the asylum records, and that it had been created by Samara psychically projecting her thoughts onto the video in a similar fashion as she made the pictures found in her file. I also understand that "The Ring" was the patter created by the light coming through the top of the well, presumably, the last thing Samara ever saw while alive (hence the tagline). But here's what I don't get: Since Samara (obviously) created the tape before she died, why was the the Ring on it? She didn't see that image until after she was released from the hospital, so how could it be on the tape?

[dmdubie]

Now that I've given out some answers, I've got a question of my own.

I understood that the "killer tape" was the same one that had gone missing from the asylum records, and that it had been created by Samara psychically projecting her thoughts onto the video in a similar fashion as she made the pictures found in her file. I also understand that "The Ring" was the patter created by the light coming through the top of the well, presumably, the last thing Samara ever saw while alive (hence the tagline). But here's what I don't get: Since Samara (obviously) created the tape before she died, why was the the Ring on it? She didn't see that image until after she was released from the hospital, so how could it be on the tape?

As I understood it, the tape that was missing from the Asylum Records (SM0015) was the one in the Morgan's home. The "killer tape" was created when the group of kids, staying at the cabin, had tried to record a game.

[Ender]

Yeah, that makes sense that the missing asylum tape was the one found at the Morgan home, I should have thought of that...

But that still leaves the question of how the "killer tape" was made. I don't think it was the kids in the cabin who made it, since the story about it had been circulating around as an urban myth long before they died (Becca knew all the details of it without being told by Kristy in the opening scene, so that group of kids couldn't have been the first).

[dmdubie]

I don't think the kids actually made the tape, I think it was Samara who projected the images on to it. She was complaining about how they had tried to record a game, but the reception was pretty bad, and when they played it back, it had all of the images on it.

About Becca, she could have been told about the tape from one of the other 3 kids staying at the cabin, which could also explain how she knew quite a bit about it.

[Ender]

Originally posted by dmdubie
About Becca, she could have been told about the tape from one of the other 3 kids staying at the cabin, which could also explain how she knew quite a bit about it.

Nope, still doesn't work for me. She referred to it as "The tape that kills people." If those four kids at the cabin had been the first to view it, it wouldn't have had that reputation. If she had heard the story from one of those kids prior to their deaths it would have gone something like this: "We were trying to tape the football game but instead we got all this weird black and white shit. And then we got this weird phone call that said 'Seven days', whatever the hell that means." How she got "The tape that kills people" out of a testimonial like that is beyond me, so it, or at the very least a story about it, must have been circulating prior to the incident at the cabin

[darkface]

well the other kids that watched the movie, and heard 7 days, probably told a couple people (including Becca) and used the incident to tell a scary story. And said that the person that watched the tape supossidly dies! something like that. There's gaps in the movie, but all movies have them.

[d-dogg422]

I saw "The Ring" and i heard rumors there is a scene after the credits:
is this true or faulse? Because i never stick around after the credits.