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Lokonopa
11-02-2002, 09:58 PM
Two nights ago, my family went and seen some certain horror film to be in the spirit of this great holiday, you people may of heard of it. It is titled "The Ring." My mother thought it would be nice to ditch the previous plans of seeing Red Dragon tonight, and instead, wanted to see The Ring. I, of course, refused to go see this movie. Even if I wasn't paying, I knew it would be waste.

Sadly, they all came back disappointed. The first thing my dad said when he walked it was, "That movie sucked.." and my mom stated, "It was garbage." This adds to my theory I have been developing of horror films today suck more than a 2 bit asian whore surrounded by many horny american soldiers in Vietnam. I'm not talking an average whore, I'm talking about a whore that could suck a bowling ball through a air duct. Not the small ones that you can crawl thru. The large ones you can almost walk thru if you didn't bow your head down some. My brother is in the duct business, I know what's up.

Onto the point!

Let's compare such movies as American Werewolf in London and American Werewolf in Paris. Now, which one is actually SCARY? Paris wasn't the least bit scary. They should of stuck with the animatronic wolves. They looked much more real. Need an explaination? How about at the end of American Werewolf in Paris, when the werewolf eats the heart. This was the lamest scene that was intended to be pretty gruesome. Instead, it looks like a damned cartoon. In American Werewolf in London, the wolf looked real. At the end of the movie when the werewolf is running about in the city... That son of a bitch looked real. This only proves that horror movies today are just terrible.

Another example is there hasn't been any movie monsters lately. I don't want to see a movie and the monster is something that you can't see, like it's some sort of disease or some shit. I want to see Jason and Freddy kicking some ass, I want to see original movie monsters. Not rehashed monsters from back in the day. You know, when Dracula was actually new. When the Mummy was horror, and not a comedy. When... Yeah, you get my point. I need a new horror icon to look up too. A new half-dead zombie life guard serial killing machete swinging murder machine.

When was the last time someone left to see a horror movie for the monster itself and not because all the nifty explosions, graphics, and actor/actress? Just because the monster looked unique and you just knew it is going to be kicking some ass. I don't care about nudity, I would put on a porno if I wanted to see some titties. Breast do not make a great movie.

Whatever happened to The Creature from the Black Lagoon? I would think a new up-to-date, scary version of this could be great. Not a comedy. A horror-drama. The monster loved the girl but couldn't have her for she couldn't love a monster such as it. You know how that movie goes. Another idea, a remake of the original would be nice if the director did a good job and stayed true to the original. No nudity, not a lot of swearing, just the monster and the unattainable love of it's life.

One last thing before I click the submit button, scary movies today just can't be about the monster itself. An example is Signs. The trailers made this movie to be a pretty good thrill of a sci-fi movie. How could you not find aliens attacking a family in the middle of no where and all they have is their wits with them...And a glass of funny tasting water. Instead, it was about a man who lost faith, blah blah blah, you all know about it already. I just think that if this movie was more aliens, less drama, it would of been a lot better. I been craving for a good new scary movie for sometime, and thus far, I have been only let down by Hollywood's failed attempts. Maybe I should start looking into foreign horror flicks. Dead Alive, a.k.a. Braindead, is still one of my favorite horror flicks to date.

I have lost faith in American movies and Jackass hitting the number one movie in American proves that this country has an IQ so low, you have to dig for it.

The Arrow
11-04-2002, 02:50 PM
I have to put in my two cents here:

Just like every other country, US horror goes through cycles every year and delivers both the random gems and the cinematic shit sandwitches.

Personnally, I always seem to be able to find the winners in the lot according to my movie tastes. Movies like Session 9, The Others, From Hell, Skeleton in the Closet, Ghost of Mars, Jeepers Creepers, Blade 2, May, Frailty, American Psycho... what not, all made me very happy to be a horror fan.

Yes often I do find myself leaning towards foreign horror to get my less "mainstream" film intake, but even foreign country tend to jump on the "mainstream/dumbed down" bandwagon by churning out their own turkeys (CUT anyone?).

My bottom line is, in every country, not just the US, there are good and bad horror movies coming out year around, the secret is weading them out and hoping to hit the good ones (I have to see them all but that's my job).

I'll adress some of your points and leave it at that:

-Two nights ago, my family went and seen some certain horror film to be in the spirit of this great holiday, you people may of heard of it. It is titled "The Ring." My mother thought it would be nice to ditch the previous plans of seeing Red Dragon tonight, and instead, wanted to see The Ring. I, of course, refused to go see this movie. Even if I wasn't paying, I knew it would be waste. Sadly, they all came back disappointed. The first thing my dad said when he walked it was, "That movie sucked.." and my mom stated, "It was garbage." This adds to my theory I have been developing of horror films today suck more than a 2 bit asian whore surrounded by many horny american soldiers in Vietnam.

ARROW: How does your parent's dislike of The Ring define the state of US horror today. Last I checked your parent's opinion on ONE film wasn't the be all and end all of all opinions. Don't get me wrong, it's fine to not like a film but I find it odd that you use this "tale" to support your argument. Didn't work for me.

-I want to see Jason and Freddy kicking some ass, I want to see original movie monsters. Not rehashed monsters from back in the day.

ARROW: Jeepers Creepers did just that. Hopefully its success will prompt more "original" monster movies to come out. The upcoming Darkness Falls falls in that category.

Let's compare such movies as American Werewolf in London and American Werewolf in Paris. Now, which one is actually SCARY? Paris wasn't the least bit scary. They should of stuck with the animatronic wolves. They looked much more real. Need an explaination? How about at the end of American Werewolf in Paris, when the werewolf eats the heart. This was the lamest scene that was intended to be pretty gruesome. Instead, it looks like a damned cartoon. In American Werewolf in London, the wolf looked real. At the end of the movie when the werewolf is running about in the city... That son of a bitch looked real. This only proves that horror movies today are just terrible.

ARROW: How does American Werewolf in Paris being a bad movie prove that horror today is shit. Again...its ONE movie! Back in 1985 The Howling 2 came out and it was an awful movie, way worse than AWIP. Did that mean that every flick in the 80's was shit?

I have lost faith in American movies and Jackass hitting the number one movie in American proves that this country has an IQ so low, you have to dig for it.

ARROW: I don't think its right to judge a whole country due to the success of one film. I actually found Jackass to be a VERY funny movie and like to consider myself to be an intelligent person. Sometimes I want to relax the brain and be entertained in a stupid way and Jackass did just that. Just because it doesn't gel with your own taste buds, that doesn't mean its garbage. To each his own. Comedy in particular is very subjective. NOTE: I'm not defending the US out of patriotic duty, I'm Canadian and live in an Igloo and say aboot all the time.

Needless to say I don't agree with your rant and the arguments brought foreword failed to convince me that horror today is pure drivel. I say: If you look for the good films, you'll find them...but that's just me.

Peace

Arrow

syxxpac
11-04-2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by The Arrow
I'm Canadian and live in an Igloo and say aboot all the time.


Yeah, Canada's great, ain't it? Except there's some kind of pig farm near my igloo...

And on topic, I generally agree that horror, along with pretty much every genre, has its good and bad years. Just because T2 is my fave flick doesn't mean that all action/sci fi flicks rule.

bob
11-22-2002, 05:54 PM
Horror films aint' what they used to be.

However, I disagree with you about SIGNS. I think it's a great movie, and I walked into the movie expecting a good drama/thriller and got one. Look at it that way if you ever see it again.

Kastman
11-22-2002, 11:11 PM
Isn't the guy who started thjis topic (im too lazy to scroll down and find out) going against your other rant, about not following on, Arrow?

But i am with Arrow.

The Arrow
11-23-2002, 06:25 PM
Yes this thread would be a good example of what my "rant" in another thread was referring to.

Just Jack
11-23-2002, 07:45 PM
This guy is gone. He joined on Nov. 2 and that was the last day he posted at this site as well. He probably won't reply back.

ParileseMonster
11-23-2002, 10:24 PM
I think horror movies lately suck, but I do find a gem every once in awhile but it is rare. I do not like remakes because people ruin them. Not all remakes are bad but the ones from the 90's and up really blow. I am still pissed that they are going to remake The Stepford Wifes and that it will be a comedy, what? It will also star Nicole Kidman, if it were serious like it is supposed to be then yeah it might work but she is not funny and this is not a comedy so therefore it will suck because someone ruined it.
When you watch a movie, any movie you can tell if it was created with care or created for cash. People do not care anymore is my understanding. The Movies Suck, The Actors Suck, The Remakes Suck and this is a majority. I miss the 80's the movies, the music and yes the kick ass saturday night horror programing.
God help me, where is the time machine.:p

Michael_myers
11-24-2002, 04:41 PM
We need more original shit. Jason going and killing teens doesn't cut it anymore. Jason XC, waqs very cheesy and entertaining, but at the same time it was quite the crapfest. I agree with the Arrow and most of you. My favorite movie is the Elephant Man. Does that mean I'm a stupid wussy? Does that mean horror makes me cry? Basically that's what Syxxpac was saying. This guy's parents opinion means about as much as the shit I flushed this morning. But he made some good points about horror going to hell!

freakandgeek
11-26-2002, 07:50 AM
man, i love horror movies. i love it when my heart is pounding and i am all tense...i love putting my jacket up to my eyes but sneaking a peak because i want to know what happens....but the horror movies lately. AHHH....now, it got knocked, but i loved jeepers creepers. but other then that, and maybe 13 ghosts, the "horror" movies suck. i liked signs, but for me that doesn't really count. not sure why......but anyways, i wish they would make really gory, scary, sometimes funny (like halloween)...and maybe more movies like rosemary's baby. those were the good ol days. i think thats why i like jeepers creepers. it reminded me of the older movies. and another thing. i have noticed that MOST of the sucky horror movies have people falling in love and having sex while bad stuff is happening. that really bugs me. i mean, who has time to have sex when people are being killed. come on. i wish i could make a good horror movie! i miss the good ones!

freakandgeek
11-26-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by ParileseMonster
I think horror movies lately suck, but I do find a gem every once in awhile but it is rare. I do not like remakes because people ruin them. Not all remakes are bad but the ones from the 90's and up really blow. I am still pissed that they are going to remake The Stepford Wifes and that it will be a comedy, what? It will also star Nicole Kidman, if it were serious like it is supposed to be then yeah it might work but she is not funny and this is not a comedy so therefore it will suck because someone ruined it.
When you watch a movie, any movie you can tell if it was created with care or created for cash. People do not care anymore is my understanding. The Movies Suck, The Actors Suck, The Remakes Suck and this is a majority. I miss the 80's the movies, the music and yes the kick ass saturday night horror programing.
God help me, where is the time machine.:p

i totally agree with everything you said!!!!!