Dawn of the Dead

[misfits859]

Good time of the year to discuss some classics. So what are some of your memories of this awesome flick? This is one of my all time favorites. Great horror vibe, well put together and the shopping mall idea is great. Some truly tense scenes within too including the scene outside the mall when the guys are trying to get the trailers in front of the doors. Simply an awesome movie.

[Stefan]

I love towards the end when the bikers invade the mall and wreck up the place. They throw pies up the zombie's faces. The final shootout was cool between the last human survivors and the bikers. With the bikers being eaten up! I thought it was pretty cool when that one biker got eaten up while he was getting his blood pressure on the machine. Good gore effects when he was being eaten up. I also like how that one black guy fights off all the zombies at the end in order to get on the chopper. Good final fight! Stefan's out.

[pedro]

Classic movie, brilliant story, tense action, blue zombies, pink blood. I loved this movie. The gore wasn't as good as Day of the Dead, but the action came much faster. A true ZOMBIE EPIC.

[JDog83]

This movie sucked. I don't know why people liked this terrible, boring, stupid film! I sure hope the remake isn't as crappy as the original.

[misfits859]

Man, maybe you should go watch an episode of Friends or something.

[Fulci]

Somebody who doesn't like Dawn? Blasphemy!

[APzombie]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JDog83:
This movie sucked. I don't know why people liked this terrible, boring, stupid film! I sure hope the remake isn't as crappy as the original.</font>

what the FUC& are you yapping boy?!? Comon tell us why you hate a classic instead of just "duh, it sucked, uh, it was stupid, uh...ya" Com on boy, SOUND OFF LIKE YA GOT A PAIR! (just kidding, i respect your quacked opinion)

[countchocula]

I too didn't see the big deal about Dawn of the Dead. It had it's moments, but there were too many non-zombie frames and I didn't really warm up to any of the characters for some reason. I don't know, I just didn't see what most of you saw.

[Headbangerzombie]

WTF??????!!!!!!!!! Bad mouthing Dawn of the Dead??????!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, this is an excellent horror film. One of the best zombie ever. a true masterpiece. Incredibly influentail. great acting. Awesome gore. Great humor. tons of fun. Romero and Savini rule. Excellent score. I could on and on.

4/4 What else?

[Professor Steve]

This is one of my favorite films too. There's just something about staying up late (with or without friends) and popping this movie in - you won't want to go down to the basement afterward.

Highlights for me:

* The cop kicking in the door and blasting off the guys head in the beginning.
* The eerie basement of banished zombies chewing on each other and people parts.
* The zombie getting the top of his head chopped off by the helicopter blades.
* Two zombie kids biting it
* The Hare Krishna zombie in the mall
* The zombie getting a screwdriver in the head in JCPenney

The scene that sticks with me the most:

For some reason when the two guys go get the trucks to block the doors - that whole sequence gets to me. The sense of urgency, and seeing the zombies close in slowly...

Also, just running through the mall with the guy in the wheelbarrow is a scene I'll never forget.

[misfits859]

Just watched this one again last night. My girlfriend saw it for the first time. She didn't care much for the two kids getting machine gunned... I think it's about time for another movie like this to be made. Good ol gut munching zombie fun!!!

[french guy tom]

DAWN is a cult classic. Definitely. I consider it as my favorite horror film whatever the genre is. DAWN is the reflection of what the movies could bring to us when there are no compromises.
We'll never see that kind of film anymore so enjoy it everytime you see it!

[Dr Martin Luther Loomis]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by misfits859:
Good ol gut munching zombie fun!!!</font>

We just don't see much of that these days...

[Headbangerzombie]

yeah, I agree, doc. That sux. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif We need more gut munching!!!!!!!!!!

[fuzzy]

I remember seeing this many years ago in the early 80's.I always remember the guy towards the end who pulls the covers down from his face and reveals that he's changed.i also love the bit when the elevator doors open and all the zombies grab the guy down from the hatch.Is there a full uncut dvd of this movie...i'd love to see it again

[APzombie]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fuzzy:
I remember seeing this many years ago in the early 80's.I always remember the guy towards the end who pulls the covers down from his face and reveals that he's changed.i also love the bit when the elevator doors open and all the zombies grab the guy down from the hatch.Is there a full uncut dvd of this movie...i'd love to see it again</font>

Yes there is, its the US uncut version, but i dont know what new is in it. Also there are slim to none extras. WE NEED MORE ZOMBIE MOVIES!

[ParileseMonster]

This movie kicks ass and I must also say for all of you guys out there and mind you I am a chick talking here but an extremely different chick alltogether but I must say to you now
NEVER WATCH A HORROR MOVIE THAT INVOLVES LITTLE KIDS, ANIMALS ETC GETTING KILLED OR ONE WITH RAPE OR NIPPLE BITING WITH A YENTA CHICK!!!! ONLY WATCH THESE MOVIES WITH CHICKS LIK ME!!! YENTA'S ONLY RUIN THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE! THATS NOT RIGHT NAG NAG NAG OH THAT IS TERRIBLE NAG NAG NAG JUST SHUDUP ALLREADY AND BLOW!!!!!:P

[misfits859]

Too bad you're in California....

[Stefan]

Sorry if I sound ignorant but what the heck is a Yenta chick? Stefan's out.

[meltingman]

A yenta is a woman who keeps talking and nagging.

DAWN OF THE DEAD... One of the greatest horror films ever made!

[ParileseMonster]

Yeah and also Yenta woman get offended over everything, they get easily upset and you feel like your walking on eggshells all the damn time when you are around them! They are constantly on the rag man they need a lifetime supply of pamprin, you got to always kiss their ass and think before you speak because if you dare say the wrong thing there goes your nuts with a snip and soon after you will find yourself willingly going to a tupperware yenta party or a pampered chef cookware show with all the other yenta's exchanging recipies and you get no sex from them and they put you on a short leash so you cant possibly run away or cheat and then comes the time when she demands a joint checking account hehehehehhe, I think Ive explained the way of the yenta quite well! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

P.S. Also if you are still alive and around this woman you will think of the days when you could sit back and watch
Dawn Of The Dead! He he ehe

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[Green]

Don't have to say much about this other then it is classic. The effects are amazing and it is very claustrophobic. If you haven't seen it, what are you waiting for?

[Fergus]

I didn't think this was bad, but I didn't think it was great either. I expected a horror classic when I watched this about a year ago. The director's cut version is the one I watched, and I must say, it was REDUNDANT, yes very much so. I went on forever, and I'm wondering what the point of this was. Texas Chainsaw Massacre was a genius horror flick. But this one just didn't do it for me. I love the horror/70's vibe it gave off, and the atmosphere was great. But I came away a tad bit disappointed. "Night of the Living Dead" was classic, this just doesn't measure up, I'm afraid. But I DIDN'T think it sucked, it fell somewhere in the middle of the road.

[malaria]

Best zombie flik ever i reckon.

[Hans, wihout Franz]

I was slightly disapointed in DAWN after the hipe it recieved. However, it was a very good zombie movie. More of a camp fest than the original but a good camp fest and a good sequel, gets a plus for that alone

[meltingman]

Well, I don't know if I was stoned, high or drank too much coffee that day. After viewing DAWN OF THE DEAD in the theater, when I got up, well I had trouble getting up. I guess from developing a hemorrhoid while watching the film. I was really into it, those zombies coming out every which way, no way to go, and losing one friends along the way (the characters in the film). This movie affected more than any other horror film. A close second was seeing the EXORCIST in the theater on it's release. It's no big deal nowadays though. I guess you could say these films were incredible: at their release dates on the big screen.

[Cyclonus]

I just saw it and thought it was a great horror flick. Man, all these zombies, eating people, getting shot, all that blood, holy shit baby! I liked the black guy, he reminded me of Larry Fishburne! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

PS: Anyone remember the part with the intestines? Yum! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[dellamorte dellamore]

I think Romero should sue P Anderson and Constantin films for ripping off elements from all his Dead films,Dawn in particular.I thought NOTLD 90 is just as amazing as Dawn with the same sustained suspense and impending sense of doom,you can never get comfortable with this film.

There is always this sense that no matter how hard they try,no matter what they do,there is really no future,no happy ending,the world has gone to hell,and it's not coming back,not even marathon shopping sprees can take the edge off or deny the reality of their dismal situation.

It's true an infinite number of films have been influenced by Dawn,not just Zombie films,but horror in general.It's definitely time for the 4th and final Dead film.The only problem is that i've heard it's way too dark and there aren't any studios who will finance it.It's time to call Argento again,he helped produce Dawn.

[spacemonkey]

This movie really is excellent, the firs few scenes in the begining are truly horrofying, that scene were a lady finds her husband and starts to hug him without realizing that hes a zombie and he takes a clean chunk right out of her shoulder. shit!

And its true a lot of films have been influenced by this, right up to Resident Evil. Like I mentioned in one of my posts, I think that thanks to the cash that Resident is raking in, Im sure that there will be a rebirth of the zombie flick. We can only hope that the upcoming zombie flicks are as good as dawn of the dead or day of the dead.

[spacemonkey]

By the way is it just me or does anyone like Day of the Dead even more? Not that Dawn isnt good I love it but I think that Day of the Dead is just a little more satasfying horror flick, it defenetly has more zombies and an even stronger feeling of impending horror. But maybe thats just me. Whatcha think?

[APzombie]

Day of the Dead does not have more zombies, though it was a good film, i dont think it could ever live up to dawn.

Day of the Dead was more about planing the next step on what the hell to do with their lives with zombies roaming the streets above, while Dawn of the Dead was figuring out how to stay alive while running from the zombies in the streets... if that makes scence

either way, i think that Dawn of the Dead is the best zombie movie ever and is one of the best survival movies too.

[Romero&Juliet]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spacemonkey:
By the way is it just me or does anyone like Day of the Dead even more? Not that Dawn isnt good I love it but I think that Day of the Dead is just a little more satasfying horror flick, it defenetly has more zombies and an even stronger feeling of impending horror. But maybe thats just me. Whatcha think?</font>

I thought Day of the Dead was much better than Dawn.

[Romero&Juliet]

By the way, someone said something about a remake of Dawn. Is that true????
Does anyone know anything about it yet?

[Mojo67821]

I don't know...personally I think Night of the Living Dead was better than both of the sequels

Don't get me wrong, I like Dawn of the Dead, I thought it was pretty cool, but there were parts that bored me. That's just MHO though

[APzombie]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Romero&Juliet:
By the way, someone said something about a remake of Dawn. Is that true????
Does anyone know anything about it yet?</font>

Theres been some official rumors, meaning some rich hollywood officials have taking interest, but nothing is greenlighted, it is official news though. Last i heard about the project was back in Augest...

[dellamorte dellamore]

Day is amother undeniable classic,but it's just not on the same level as Dawn.It featured more effective makeup fx,and it was a natural narrative progression in the what is now just a trilogy.

I don't even consider Day an action film,it's a drama with zombies,but still thought provoking till this day.There were some excellent performances in both films,and the funny thing is that Romero is so far ahead of the current crop of Zombie offerings with regards to mindset,the other ones feature a threat that has just begun,like another post said,Day was at the point were they were trying to figure out how to live with them somehow(shatter dead touched on this subject too).

The 4th will deal with what happens when they do learn how to live them.They are living in walled off communities,there are more of them than there is of us,but if they are careful and responsible they should'nt be too much of threat.There is forbidden zones,safe zones,the aforementioned walled off cities,but you know all hell how to break loose somehow at the end.


Just some stuff i read on some websites,i don't know how true any of it is.


And yes,supposedly there is a remake of Dawn in the works.Romero does not own the rights so he has nothing to say about it,but it's guaranteed with the popularity of Resident Evil it will be made.House of the Dead is in the pipeline too.

[genephillips]

i didn't like this movie and i'll tell you why:
1)the zombies looked really fake. all they did was paint their faces blue and lurch around. i just couldn't take them seriously.
2)it didn't feel like a horror movie to me at all, but like some old 70's action/crime drama like columbo or chips with that goofy electronic/disco music and all those tough-guy cops with afro hairstyles and sunglasses.

i'm not trying piss people people off, but i honestly don't see how this came to be such a classic. i thought 'day of the dead' was a lot better, with much more realistic zombies, better acting and darker atmosphere.

[spacemonkey]

Im sorry Apzombie but I think that Day does have more zombies dude. Maybe your confusing them or something cause Im preatty sure of this. I mean the under ground scene with those zombies coming out of dark in the cave, hundreads of zombies there. Um..that scene with the zombies coming into the underground facility hundreads more there. Plus all the zombies running loose in the city at the beginning of the movie, that zombie they have captive, plus all the zombies that are above ground.
Plus Day has better make up effects, waaay better make up effects, the zombies are not just people walking around looking pale and blue. But hey thats just me, I respect your opinion.
But I do think that dawn has more of that feeling of "the whole world gone to hell" to it.

[AlienClown]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by genephillips:
i didn't like this movie and i'll tell you why:
1)the zombies looked really fake. all they did was paint their faces blue and lurch around. i just couldn't take them seriously..</font>
The minimal makeup used was because of budget limitations and in a way it works to the film's advantage, because the zombies look quite close to human and that adds to the social subtext of who the real zombies are and how we are/will be our own downfall. Also keep in mind that the majority of the undead featured are quite recently deceased.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">2)it didn't feel like a horror movie to me at all, but like some old 70's action/crime drama like columbo or chips with that goofy electronic/disco music and all those tough-guy cops with afro hairstyles and sunglasses</font>
An amusing comparison, but one which I never made nor heard anyone else say. I see the action part, and as to the 70s tv crime show parallels I'd say that it would only be natural for some films of the time to reflect the same type of stuff like hair and clothes as tv shows did. And I love the music/score by Goblin.

genephillips, I can't say you're alone in your views as a fair share of other posters here have stated they don't love this film but I would say there are far more that do and as dellamorte dellamore already said it certainly is an undeniable classic.
Possibly the best zombie movie of all time, and one of my personal favorites. Also one of the few examples of films that are rather long but I don't become restless. Very few horror films could/can sustain such a running time and be of such high quality.



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[Jason Voorhees]

Hmm, I can't say If I like Day or Dawn better. Day had good atmosphere, tons of zombies, lots of action and gore, and some fun characters. Dawn had about the same http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif. I think It's cool how in Day they take the Zombie human relationship a step further by capturing one Zombie and teaching him about the things he did while he was alive. Pretty cool stuff. Both films rule.. Strangely enough Night was the one that I thought sucked.. Haven't seen the remake yet though.

[Cyclonus]

I thought some people were a bit hard on Day of the Dead. Sure, it had flaws, but the idea of a zombie that hasn't entirely lost its humanity was kinda cool. A bit slow in the middle though.

[DeadByDawn]

Horror movies aren't these days as good as they used to be...

[nixflix]

I've seen this little gem over a dozen times and every time the SWAT guys run around taking stuff from stores pushing their wheelbarrow and sliding down escalators I still feel giddy all over. heh heh.

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[misfits859]

Damn this topic is still alive...

I don't have a bad thing to say about either of these classics. Dawn and Day were both well done I thought. Day had the clausterphobic feeling of the underground bunker which really made for an interesting atmosphere. These are important movies to me simply because I remember them having a heavy duty effect on my childhood; just couldn't watch them enough times. Also, I am a fan of the '90 versin of NOTLD. Well done in my opinion. These movies absolutely have stood the test of time and are just as good today as when released.

[Dutch Splatter]

I'm fortunate to live in the Netherlands. Almost horror movies come uncut in the Video Rentals. I first saw Dawn in the mid 80's and was totally surprised. I hold it as one of my all time favourites next to Evil Dead, Bad Taste, The Thing and Return of the Living Dead. I heard of a 144 minutes special director's cut (on video not DVD) and I bought it over the internet. To my surprise there was a extra scene (by the first take off with the helicopter from the broadcast studios), but some of the gore was cut out. The first headshot in the building was not shown and I did miss a few other shots. If anyone seen this version, than it's possible that they are somewhat disappointed about the gore, but with a good version this is an absolute classic.

[MotorizedInstinct]

THE GREATEST
'nuff said!

[APzombie]

Has anyone seen the 'ultimate final cut' released in Germany that has all known scenes from the director's cut and the cuts of Romero and Argento and it runs 156 minutes. God man, thats friggin long, i heard that a "better edited" version of this will be released on the DVD coming out in a year.

[spacemonkey]

I really like the whole 'bub' scenes in Day.
I thought it was cool that they were trying to find out what makes these zombie mothers tick. Reminded me a bit of the scene were they capture that zombie in Return of the living dead... "it takes the pain aaaayyy.." http://www.houseofhorrors.com/dayz6_small.jpg

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[Drago Floyd]

Dawn of the dead is easily one of the best horror movies ever made. Everything is just so right about it, the effects, the acting, the atmosphere, Romero got it all right in this one. I just saw it yesterday (for the second time) and it defenitly stands for repeated viewings.

And imo Day of the dead is almost as good, though it suffers from an anticlimactic ending...

[DarkSerpent213]

Well I didn't like this movie too much the first time I saw it. But after seeing it a few times I definitly changed my mind. I know what you are saying about how this film is not scary...but funny. Well my point of view on that is...If i were in the place of the people in this film, I think I would be going mad (crazy) in the head. And if I went crazy like that...I would totally lose myself from reality. Kinda like the fact that they are being invaded by zombies and these people are stuck in the mall stealing things from the stores and laughing and having fun at times. I just see this movie as people going crazy in the head if the world were to be taken over by zombies and there was nothing you can do about it. Thats why this movie seems a little funny at times. Well I guess I know what i'm trying to say...its just hard to explain where i'm coming from on this...lol.

[thingsgoinon]

Damn my fav movie of all time and I can't think of a damn thing to say. Dammitt.

[gorejunky]

I enjoyed Day better. More gore and not as clownish.

[thingsgoinon]

Day is a VERY underated film by alot of Dead fans.... I don't get it, alot of ppl who have read the original script say that would have been better, but I think what ended up on film far surpassed it.

Is it all right to discuss other Romero films here, or should I start another thread for that?

[thingsgoinon]

Anyone ever see Argento's edit? There is a really eerie (sp) scene with Roger in his wheelchair...I think he's looking into the fountain...it's just a really eerie scene with equally eerie music.... wish Romero would have put that in his Directors Cut....

[MotorizedInstinct]

Some other cool stuff in Argento's was the scene in The Projects at the beginning. The cops nock down the barrier in the basement and there is one second of stillness then the zombie hands come through which is different from Romero's version where the zombie hands come right through after the door is broken. The wait makes it a hell of a lot more suspenseful and makes for a better BOO! scare.