Box Office Numbers (Nov. 18 - 24)

[Horror whore]

Monday's Numbers:

1) HARRY POTTER - 5.321 Million
2) 8 MILE - 1.187 Million
3) THE RING - .607 Million
4) THE SANTA CLAUSE 2 - .528 Million
5) HALF PAST DEAD - .431 Million
6) MBFGW - .278 Million
7) JACKASS - .274 Million
8) FRIDA - .245 Million
9) I SPY - .202 Million
10) COLUMBINE - .12 Million

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Monday's Numbers:

1) HARRY POTTER - 5.321 Million
2) 8 MILE - 1.187 Million
3) THE RING - .607 Million
4) THE SANTA CLAUSE 2 - .528 Million
5) HALF PAST DEAD - .431 Million
6) MBFGW - .278 Million
7) JACKASS - .274 Million
8) FRIDA - .245 Million
9) I SPY - .202 Million
10) COLUMBINE - .12 Million

78% drop for HP, and it's running about $3.5 million behind last year's pace.

[The Other]

I saw THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS today and the theater had a lot of people for the first showing on a weekday. And for a weekend it was an average amount (meaning it wasn't crowded but it wasn't like there wasn't anyone there either).

We'll see how my money helped it today...tomorrow.

[Mike]

1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $4.742 mil ($1288 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $97.42 mil

2) 8 Mile
Gross: $1.298 mil ($520 per-screen) - 2496 theaters
Total: $86.924 mil

3) The Ring
Gross: $0.701 mil ($243 per-screen) - 2882 theaters
Total: $102.276 mil

4) The Santa Clause 2
Gross: $0.589 mil ($176 per-screen) - 3346 theaters
Total: $83.637 mil

5) Half Past Dead
Gross: $0.433 mil ($205 per-screen) - 2113 theaters
Total: $8.704 mil

6) My Greek Wedding
Gross: $0.364 mil ($201 per-screen) - 1812 theaters
Total: $199.953 mil

7) Jackass
Gross: $0.309 mil ($128 per-screen) - 2413 theaters
Total: $60.044 mil

8) Frida
Gross: $0.273 mil ($526 per-screen) - 519 theaters
Total: $9.167 mil

9) I Spy
Gross: $0.242 mil ($86 per-screen) - 2811 theaters
Total: $31.178 mil

10) Columbine
Gross: $0.159 mil ($641 per-screen) - 248 theaters
Total: $9.077 mil

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Mike
1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $4.742 mil ($1288 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $97.42 mil
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COS was the only movie in the Top 10 that dropped on Tuesday, and is now running over $6 million, or about 6% behind last year's pace. While it's much too early to gauge a trend, note that the the dynamics are a little different this year: SS's 2nd week was the week of Thanksgiving, while it'll be COS's 3rd week.

[Mike]

Originally posted by BarkingSparrow
COS was the only movie in the Top 10 that dropped on Tuesday, and is now running over $6 million, or about 6% behind last year's pace. While it's much too early to gauge a trend, note that the the dynamics are a little different this year: SS's 2nd week was the week of Thanksgiving, while it'll be COS's 3rd week.

Movies that open big usually do see a decrease everyday the week after the weekend they open. I knew Harry Potter: COS would see decreases each day this week but its decrease from Monday to Tuesday was actually a little smaller than I expected it to be, it's holding up well. It's not too far behind the first one and it's still doing pretty damn good if you ask me.

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Mike
Movies that open big usually do see a decrease everyday the week after the weekend they open. I knew Harry Potter: COS would see decreases each day this week but its decrease from Monday to Tuesday was actually a little smaller than I expected it to be, it's holding up well. It's not too far behind the first one and it's still doing pretty damn good if you ask me.

Turns out that CoS was the only movie in the Top 15 to decrease, not just the Top 10. Last year, SS had an increase on Tue over Mon.

CoS first two days after opening weekend are 20% and 38% respectively lower then SS. It's too early to draw any conclusions, this weekend will tell if it's going to behave according to conventional wisdom with respect to sequels, i.e., heavy front-loading and big drops.

[Mike]

1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $4.032 mil ($1095 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $101.452 mil

2) 8 Mile
Gross: $1.01 mil ($405 per-screen) - 2496 theaters
Total: $87.934 mil

3) The Ring
Gross: $0.599 mil ($208 per-screen) - 2882 theaters
Total: $102.875 mil

4) The Santa Clause 2
Gross: $0.53 mil ($158 per-screen) - 3346 theaters
Total: $84.167 mil

5) Half Past Dead
Gross: $0.347 mil ($164 per-screen) - 2113 theaters
Total: $9.051 mil

6) My Greek Wedding
Gross: $0.285 mil ($157 per-screen) - 1812 theaters
Total: $200.238 mil

7) Jackass
Gross: $0.254 mil ($105 per-screen) - 2413 theaters
Total: $60.298 mil

8) Frida
Gross: $0.253 mil ($487 per-screen) - 519 theaters
Total: $9.42 mil

9) I Spy
Gross: $0.210 mil ($75 per-screen) - 2811 theaters
Total: $31.388 mil

10) Columbine
Gross: $0.131 mil ($528 per-screen) - 248 theaters
Total: $9.208 mil

[dh1989]

I am glad CoS crossed the 100 Million mark. The sky's the limit, I daresay.

[Tom Samborski]

Well, after seven months in release, My Big Fat Greek Wedding has crossed the $200 million mark. It's just amazing how far it has gone.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I really thought Mr Potter would have crossed 100 mil over the weekend, that was the only surprise for me. Maybe the warnings of how this one was a bit darker( see: Batman Returns) kept some parents from taking their little Potheads ( my name for rabid HP fans).


8 Mile. No matter how much it hurts to say this, proves Reese's is a huge box office draw. I didn't think it would have hung so tough the second weekend.


The Ring is making some serious waves. I figured it would finish at 100 mil, not steamroll past it.

Santa Clause. I expected a bit more.


Half Past Dead. Did just about what i thought it would do, considering there are still some die hard Segal fans floating around. Plus the Ja Rule factor.


Greek wedding. It's success is beyond sickening now. Come on, the film isn't that good, now the inevitable sequel and autobiography will be on it's way. Please spare us the pain.



Jackass. They cleaned up in light of the production costs. Another one bound for a sequel. Jack and Jill's Ass : a love story.

[Mike]

THURSDAY'S NUMBERS


1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $3.678 mil ($999 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $106.132 mil

2) 8 Mile
Gross: $1.023 mil ($410 per-screen) - 2496 theaters
Total: $88.959 mil

3) The Ring
Gross: $0.686 mil ($238 per-screen) - 2882 theaters
Total: $103.278 mil

4) The Santa Clause 2
Gross: $0.59 mil ($176 per-screen) - 3346 theaters
Total: $84.734 mil

5) My Greek Wedding
Gross: $0.347 mil ($192 per-screen) - 1812 theaters
Total: $200.863 mil

6) Half Past Dead
Gross: $0.344 mil ($163 per-screen) - 2113 theaters
Total: $9.376 mil

7) Jackass
Gross: $0.254 mil ($105 per-screen) - 2413 theaters
Total: $60.47 mil

8) Frida
Gross: $0.249 mil ($480 per-screen) - 519 theaters
Total: $9.686 mil

9) I Spy
Gross: $0.213 mil ($76 per-screen) - 2811 theaters
Total: $31.602 mil

10) Columbine
Gross: $0.15 mil ($605 per-screen) - 248 theaters
Total: $9.358 mil

[idealdiscountdude]

Its great to see a movie with normal looking people in it who play people with normal everyday lives become such a huge success.

Congrats to the little film that could, My Big Fat Greek Wedding for hitting the $200 million mark! Its now the 5th BIGGEST Movie Of The Year and it deserves it!

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Mike
THURSDAY'S NUMBERS

1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $3.678 mil ($999 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $106.132 mil



CoS is running nearly $24 million behind last year's pace (about 18%), but of course the timing dynamics are different. It will be interesting to see if things evens out over the Thanksgiving holidays.

[Mike]

Yeah but didn't the first Harry Potter open the weekend before Thanksgiving last year? If so then it's understandable why COS's grosses are a little smaller during the week...

[Just Jack]

I hope Harry Potter can old on to its #1 spot next week. I don't care much for the Bond films.

If Die Another Day turns out to be the biggest hit of the series, than credit that to one Ms. Halle Berry. She's getting more face in the public and advertising than Bond himself, Pierce Brosnan.

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Mike
Yeah but didn't the first Harry Potter open the weekend before Thanksgiving last year? If so then it's understandable why COS's grosses are a little smaller during the week...

That's what I meant by the timing dynamics being different. It's running $23 million behind, so we'll see if it can make up the gap during Thanksgiving week.

[Horror whore]

Die Another Day: 15.467
Harry Potter: 10.879
Friday After Next: 4.384
8 Mile: 2.748
The Ring: 2.525
Santa Clause 2: 2.375
The Emperor's...: 1.214
Greek Wedding: 1.062
Half Past Dead: 1.025
Frida: .627

[The Other]

Ugh...

Maybe HP can pick up steam over Sat. and Sun. since kids have school and everything and they don't show it as many times as they would on Sat. and Sun.

Also I'm sure it'll do well over Thanksgiving weekend next week.

[TheMovieMinor]

Congrats to Die Another Day. A film worth seeing again, not that crap Potter.

Yesterday when I saw Bond, it was on 3 screens and all the show were sold out after 5:30. So about 12 shows. Plus they extended a screen, but making the 930 show into 2 theaters. So another sold out one there.

Harry Potter had no sold out shows, plus, the line to get in for Potter was pretty short compared to Bonds.

[BarkingSparrow]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Die Another Day: 15.467
Harry Potter: 10.879
Friday After Next: 4.384
8 Mile: 2.748
The Ring: 2.525
Santa Clause 2: 2.375
The Emperor's...: 1.214
Greek Wedding: 1.062
Half Past Dead: 1.025
Frida: .627

DAD did not do quite as good as I anticipated. HP should go up big time on Saturday (around 70% increase) so it's not given that DAD will win the box office this weekend. That's still not good news though, HP could very well face a 50% drop this weekend.

I imagine WB is getting a little nervous about the situation now, I had the feeling that they were a tad overconfident with respect to the HP franchise. $300m is looking less likely.

[Wildbilld]

Originally posted by The Other
Ugh...

Maybe HP can pick up steam over Sat. and Sun. since kids have school and everything and they don't show it as many times as they would on Sat. and Sun.

Also I'm sure it'll do well over Thanksgiving weekend next week.


Didnt that happen with the last one too? :confused:

[dh1989]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Die Another Day: 15.467
Harry Potter: 10.879
Friday After Next: 4.384
8 Mile: 2.748
The Ring: 2.525
Santa Clause 2: 2.375
The Emperor's...: 1.214
Greek Wedding: 1.062
Half Past Dead: 1.025
Frida: .627

I hope that garbage film(Die Another Day) does not top the box office, which it probably won't. I know some people will say this is proof that CoS is a failure money-wise, but remember that it will make a lot of money over the Thanksgiving week(kids are off school) and for this weekend, Saturday should give it a big boost. CoS will probably still top the box office this weekend. I pray it does, I do not want Die Another Day to have it. If it does then the studios will think Americans want dumb action films with bad acting, direction, and writing. What a pity it would be.

[Nomade]

DAD will be #1 for this week-end. Harry Potter don't have good leg.......

[Nomade]

And you seem to overate Harry Potter. The first one was very ordinary. It was just a direct adaptation of the book so the film feel cold and didn't have a soul....

[Mike]

I'm a little disappointed that I switched my predictions at Lees Movie Info.

These were my original predictions for DIE ANOTHER DAY:

Friday - 15.1 Million
Saturday - 17.2 Million
Sunday - 11.8 Million

Total - 44.1 Million

But then with all of the hype and stuff I decided that maybe those predictions weren't big enough, so I changed them to this:

Friday - 16.1 Million
Saturday - 18.2 Million
Sunday - 12.8 Million

Total - 47.1 Million

Hmm, I probably won't win now. I would have had a better chance if I would have stuck with my original predictions. DAMN!


Anyway, HARRY POTTER will increase on Saturday for sure, family movies and adult movies usually always do. Plus, HARRY POTTER will kick ass next weekend over Thanksgiving weekend and I think it should be #1, I don't see TREASURE PLANET beating it at all...

THE RING looks to bring in another 7.6-8 Million for the weekend...

[ClarkGriswald]

Originally posted by dh1989
I hope that garbage film(Die Another Day) does not top the box office, which it probably won't. I know some people will say this is proof that CoS is a failure money-wise, but remember that it will make a lot of money over the Thanksgiving week(kids are off school) and for this weekend, Saturday should give it a big boost. CoS will probably still top the box office this weekend. I pray it does, I do not want Die Another Day to have it. If it does then the studios will think Americans want dumb action films with bad acting, direction, and writing. What a pity it would be.

Why the hell do people always badmouth Bond movies? Harry Potter fans, I'm sorry, but you can think it's a huge money maker. Maybe once your series has lasted 40 years and 20 movies (better yet how about 50 years and between 35 and 40 books) you can say that proudly. Till then Bond is a part of our culture. HP did not sell out in the Philadelphia area as far as I heard - DAD did. Garbage, HAH. Why don't you go see it first before you can judge it?

[dh1989]

Originally posted by Nomade
And you seem to overate Harry Potter. The first one was very ordinary. It was just a direct adaptation of the book so the film feel cold and didn't have a soul....

CoS has much more soul than that dreadful Bond film with bad writing, bad action, corny one-liners, and the hero is a womanizer. Yep that sounds like it has tons more soul. Bond has been soulless thourgh its entire run except for the Dalton days.

[dh1989]

Originally posted by ClarkGriswald
Why the hell do people always badmouth Bond movies? Harry Potter fans, I'm sorry, but you can think it's a huge money maker. Maybe once your series has lasted 40 years and 20 movies (better yet how about 50 years and between 35 and 40 books) you can say that proudly. Till then Bond is a part of our culture. HP did not sell out in the Philadelphia area as far as I heard - DAD did. Garbage, HAH. Why don't you go see it first before you can judge it?

First, I have seen it and it 3/10 trash. And Bond is just another thing. He is not "part of our culture". That'd be pretty sad considering he is a womanizer who drinks too much. He gives humanity a bad name. And 50% of that sell-out show probably thought it trash. Look at the Cinemascores....

Under 21 Male: A- Female: A-
21 to 34 Male: A- Female: A-
35 and Up Male: B Female: B+

Now here are Potter's scores....

Under 21 Male: A+ Female: A+
21 to 34 Male: A Female: A+
35 and Up Male: A Female: A+

CoS has straight A's, Die Another Day does not.

[arto_j]

And I thought the Dalton days were the most soulless of them all :)

I saw the big drop coming, but I didn't predict DAD to do so big, though it's not really a big surprise either...

And I must also disagree with you guys, I think Treasure Planet will kick some serious Harry Potter ass next weekend...The buzz is great, the trailer looks gorgeous, and Disney knows how to sell their animations...I expect it to do huge business, and while HP might pick up a bit from this week, TP will do better, I say.

[ClarkGriswald]

Like I said, Harry Potter needs to last a lot more longer in order for me to gain some respect for the series. The book series is a VERY big step over the movies. The books have more soul in them. The movies are hit and miss. I'd rather read Fleming than see a Bond movie. You don't have to like Bond. Numbers were never my strong point either. Exit polls may be good, but Bond...he's survived through a half century. Like I said, when HP has a large fanbase and been around for nearly 50 years, you give me a yell.

[Tuukka]

I know some people will say this is proof that CoS is a failure money-wise

RE: Nah. COS will make way more than 200 million. Any film that makes that much can hardly be called a failure. I think it will end up around 250 million.

[ClarkGriswald]

Another thing - Harry Potter fans are growing up very fast. Why will HP fans that are 19 years old want to see HP when they are older? :) Just a thought.

[arto_j]

Originally posted by ClarkGriswald
Another thing - Harry Potter fans are growing up very fast. Why will HP fans that are 19 years old want to see HP when they are older? :) Just a thought.

Some probably will. And when you add the new fans it will acquire over the years, that just adds to the total, doesn't it?

[santi-freak]

C'mon DH!!!! You are giving to much praise to the Harry Potter movies!!!!!!! I read and loved the books, but the movies so far had been EXACT translations of the books, not adaptations of them.
I say GO BOND!!!!!!!!

[Tuukka]

HP fans come from all ages. They might be primarily children's books, but people of all ages read them. Also many people who prefer "serious" literature read HP books simply because they are fun. I've never read them, but I know a lot of people between 20-35 years who like them very much.

The problem is that the biggest hype for the HP movies (and books) is already gone and for non-fans COS seems like more of the same that the first film offered. The curiosity factor is no more there, even if the sequel seems to be a better film in most people's opinion.

[ClarkGriswald]

I saw the first one. It was decent, but it didn't grab me by the balls you know? The new Bond movie had me gripping my girlfriend's hand hard at some points. Bah. Whatever.

[ANTBond007]

dh is a Harry Potter fanatic. If we're gonna pull the "Bond is a womanizer who smokes too much" argument, should I drag out that dreadful "Harry Potter is evil" debate?

Frankly, Die Another Day is a better film than Potter 2; it deserves to make more money for the weekend.

[dh1989]

Originally posted by ANTBond007
If we're gonna pull the "Bond is a womanizer who smokes too much" argument, should I drag out that dreadful "Harry Potter is evil" debate?



Are you kidding? Harry Potter is called "evil" by a few religous fanatics who also hate Tolkien, Lewis, Verne, etc. That is just somebody's opinion, but is never told or shown in the film, where he is a sweet little wizard who is brave. Bond, however, is seen many times trying to seduce woman. He meets Berry's character and after a short scene, they are in the sack. He can never talk to a beautiful woman without putting on the flirt radar. He is a womanizer. And the doctors in Die Another Day say he has a bad liver, while all of his other organs are fine, hence a little disease called alcholism. I never heard Harry trying to hit on Hermione and Harry drinks Pumpkin Juice in The Great Hall not wine. So while Harry is trying to save his beloved school and home from a montrous serpent, Bond is sweet talking Halle Berry through the right side of his mouth and saying "Martini. Shaken, not stirred" to the bartender through the left.

[Nate6]

Wow, Harry Potter absolutely crumbled. 62% is a monstrous drop. It'll still do well, but not nearly as good as Sorceror's Stone.

Go Die Another Day! Kick that ass!

[dh1989]

Originally posted by ClarkGriswald
better yet how about 50 years and between 35 and 40 books

That is also unfair. Potter writer, J.K. Rowling, has said many times the Potter series will only be seven books detailing Harry's journey through Hogwarts. That is the end. It does not have the Bond luxury of new villian, new setting, and new weapon=a new story!

[dh1989]

Plus even if Die Another Day does make more money than Chamber of Secrets, there is that old saying, "Quality is better than quantity".

[ANTBond007]

Which still works, because Die Another Day is better than The Chamber of Secrets ;)

[Nate6]

Originally posted by ANTBond007
Which still works, because Die Another Day is better than The Chamber of Secrets ;)

Which is very possible, I haven't seen either yet...

[dh1989]

Well I will take the mature road and end this argument. Everybody has their series. I love Harry Potter, while someone else loves Bond. Someone will love Star Wars, while someone else loves Terminator. Lets end this, shall we? There is no need for childish arguments. Thank You.

[ClarkGriswald]

Bump

[Mike]

I really can't believe the people that think Die Another Day has more heart and soul than Harry Potter. I haven't seen either of them yet but it's obvious Die Another Day is just a non-stop action movie with numerous one-liners. Now I think Die Another Day looks good and I will see it, but Harry Potter has much more heart and soul in it, it's a magical adventure for all ages. What will James Bond teach kids? To sleep around as much as possible, have drinking problems, and blow up everything? Come on, I don't mean to diss Bond but to say that a Bond movie has more heart and soul than Harry Potter is pretty ridiculous. I haven't even seen the sequel yet but the first Harry Potter was surprisingly engrossing which is more than I can say for any Bond movie. Sure, the action and gadgets are cool, not to mention the hot Bond girls, but that's it, there's nothing else there...

[ClarkGriswald]

Truce agreed. Bond and Potter are both good series.

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Mike
I really can't believe the people that think Die Another Day has more heart and soul than Harry Potter. I haven't seen either of them yet but it's obvious Die Another Day is just a non-stop action movie with numerous one-liners. Now I think Die Another Day looks good and I will see it, but Harry Potter has much more heart and soul in it, it's a magical adventure for all ages. What will James Bond teach kids? To sleep around as much as possible, have drinking problems, and blow up everything? Come on, I don't mean to diss Bond but to say that a Bond movie has more heart and soul than Harry Potter is pretty ridiculous. I haven't even seen the sequel yet but the first Harry Potter was surprisingly engrossing which is more than I can say for any Bond movie. Sure, the action and gadgets are cool, not to mention the hot Bond girls, but that's it, there's nothing else there...

Mike, I don't think anyone said that. What Clark said was, the HP books have more soul than the HP movies. And Nomade didn't compare the two, he just said HP had no soul

I agree, a truce is good.

[ClarkGriswald]

That's right, I said the books are better than the films. I'd rather read a book then see its movie. Only some exceptions live out there, like "Die Hard" and "Election."

[Mike]

Originally posted by Nate6
Mike, I don't think anyone said that. What Clark said was, the HP books have more soul than the HP movies. And Nomade didn't compare the two, he just said HP had no soul

I agree, a truce is good.

Oops, I guess you are right, I went through all of the posts again and re-read them, I screwed up. I knew that people said the books had more soul than the movie but I could have swore someone said that Die Another Day had more soul than Harry Potter. Boy do I feel like an idiot now, I guess I just posted a pointless rant :)... Anyway, they both look good to me, but I do think there's more to a Harry Potter movie. Bond movies are the same thing over and over again, but with a new bad guy, new gadgets, and of course a new Bond girl for Bond to sleep with. Sure it's fun to look at, but it's nothing new. The eye candy is great though, especially for Die Another Day, it looks to have great eye candy. But I can already say before actually seeing Die Another Day what the best part will be, the new catchy Bond theme song from Madonna and Halle Berry. I just love the part where she goes "Your mama." I don't know why but I find it funny...

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Mike
Boy do I feel like an idiot now, I guess I just posted a pointless rant :)

I'm sorry if I made you feel like an idiot, but you shouldn't feel that way, it's something I've done countless times! Plus, you got to prove a point!

[santi-freak]

I think is wrong to compare the Harry Potter films and the Bond films. They are totally opossite franchises and aim for a diferent target audience. What we can compare is the Harry Potter movies with the Harry Potter books, and here is where the movies fails, because they are exact replicas of the books but with lots of chapters missing. But this is just my opinion.

[dh1989]

...Just when the arguments had ended and their was peace in this thread.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Nate6
I'm sorry if I made you feel like an idiot, but you shouldn't feel that way, it's something I've done countless times! Plus, you got to prove a point!

Don't worry, you don't need to be sorry, I'm the one that made the mistake ;). If you wouldn't have pointed it out to me I'm sure someone else would have...

[TheMovieMinor]

Originally posted by dh1989
Plus even if Die Another Day does make more money than Chamber of Secrets, there is that old saying, "Quality is better than quantity".


If that the case, then why are you making such a big deal that Harry should be number 1. You just said Quality is better than quantity. So if you say Harry's got Quality, dont worry about it getting number one. just hope you enjoyed it, and maybe it will bomb or something. I thought Transporter was top quality, not quantity, but at least I enjoyed it.
Harry is your opinion the best, and others, not. My opinion is that Die Another day is better than Harry. So just say what your opinion is and not fight about it.

[dh1989]

We resolved that awhile ago......

[TheMovieMinor]

oh... Well, just to say then... mmm...., well, yeah.

[The Other]

Originally posted by Mike
I really can't believe the people that think Die Another Day has more heart and soul than Harry Potter. I haven't seen either of them yet but it's obvious Die Another Day is just a non-stop action movie with numerous one-liners. Now I think Die Another Day looks good and I will see it, but Harry Potter has much more heart and soul in it, it's a magical adventure for all ages. What will James Bond teach kids? To sleep around as much as possible, have drinking problems, and blow up everything? Come on, I don't mean to diss Bond but to say that a Bond movie has more heart and soul than Harry Potter is pretty ridiculous. I haven't even seen the sequel yet but the first Harry Potter was surprisingly engrossing which is more than I can say for any Bond movie. Sure, the action and gadgets are cool, not to mention the hot Bond girls, but that's it, there's nothing else there...

Well, Mike, even if no one mentioned anything about that, you are still 100% right! :D

PS - You should like THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS even more. I know I did. It was much better (the acting, CGI, etc.) and more mature than the first one (still family-oriented, but not quite). I'm almost surprised it didn't get a PG-13 rating. I'm sure as the films go along it will. Especially when Harry, the character gets older.

[cutman]

I saw Bond last night, and it was a much better movie than boring Harry Potter 2.

Who the hell cares if he is a womanizer? The fact that he gets any woman he wants and drinks all the time makes him my hero. I actually fell asleep during Harry Potter...I don't think it would be possible to sleep in Bond.

I don't care how much money movies make, but the fact that Harry dropped off so much proves that it wasn't as well received as the die hard Harry bitches...I mean fans make it out to be.

Seriously, what the hell kind of self-respecting male has a problem with Bond's womanizing? It's not like he rapes women...Halle Berry was just as much of a slut as Bond. Get over your liberal ideologies and just go enjoy Bond movies for what they are...good entertainment...and better than Harry Potter (who is Satan according to many religious groups...which is worse than being a womanizer).

cutman

[dh1989]

Okay cutman that was a cut-down and I will make sure I report it. Please follow the rules......

[Mike]

Originally posted by cutman
I don't care how much money movies make, but the fact that Harry dropped off so much proves that it wasn't as well received as the die hard Harry bitches...I mean fans make it out to be.

Here, read this from www.boxofficeprophets.com :


The other big story is the seemingly magic-free second weekend of Harry Potter. How can a 63% dropoff not be alarming for Warner Bros.? A couple reasons. The first is that if the original Harry Potter had opened one weekend earlier, it would dropped off just as dramatically the second weekend. The reason it didn't was because of the Thanskgiving holiday boost. The Friday after Thanksgiving is usually one of, if not the biggest days for box office of the year. Second, because of that boost, Harry Potter and the Chambers of Secrets should make just about as much from Wednesday to Sunday of next weekend as it does this weekend. I highly doubt anyone at Warner Bros. is panicking at this point. The Chamber of Secrets should still be able to make $250 domestically and probably more than that.

Harry Potter dropped 63% from last Friday. Because of the first-day rush from last weekend, Harry Potter 2 should able to get $40 million this weekend and $146 million total. The Christmas holidays should help this sequel get to about $280 million.

[Horror whore]

1) Die Another Day- 47 Million
2) Harry Potter- 42.37 Million
3) Friday After Next- 13.06 Million
4) The Santa Clause 2- 10.28 Million
5) 8 Mile- 8.72 Million
6) The Ring- 7.58 Million
7) The Emporer's Club- 4.07 Million
8) My Big Fat...- 3.81 Million
9) Half Past Dead- 3.3 Million
10) Frida- 2.4 Million

[dh1989]

Chamber of Secrets had a solid amount and I am 100% sure it will get an increase next week with Thanksgiving upon us and Treasure Planet should not make that big a blip. As for Die Another Day.......no comment.

[Tom Samborski]

Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets must've had a huge gain on Saturday, and although its Friday decline from last Friday was 64%, it didn't drop much overall (53%). Since Die Another Day won't have a lot of heavy compitition in the weeks ahead other than The Two Towers, I definetly think it will make more than The World Is Not Enough.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Horror whore
1) Die Another Day- 47 Million

That is kickass, mainly because I predicted 47.1 Million and I just "might" win a free DVD at Lees Movie Info, I know I could sure use one... DIE ANOTHER DAY made 15.739 Million on Friday and I predicted 16.1 Million for Friday, so it's not too far off...

[ANTBond007]

dh, Potter will probably make another $40-or-so million during the five day weekend (Wednesday-Sunday). That's what every website is predicting, at least, and I'm inclined to agree.

As for Die Another Day, fan-bloody-tastic :D

[The Other]

Saturday's Box Office Grosses (Nov 23) (for anyone who cares to know)

1) Chamber of Secrets
Gross: $18.637 mil ($5062 per-screen) - 3682 theaters
Total: $131.029 mil

2) Die Another Day
Gross: $18.179 mil ($5485 per-screen) - 3314 theaters
Total: $33.917 mil

3) Friday After Next
Gross: $5.189 mil ($3211 per-screen) - 1616 theaters
Total: $9.609 mil

4) The Santa Clause 2
Gross: $4.766 mil ($1466 per-screen) - 3251 theaters
Total: $91.313 mil

5) 8 Mile
Gross: $3.710 mil ($1435 per-screen) - 2585 theaters
Total: $94.413 mil

6) The Ring
Gross: $3.343 mil ($1272 per-screen) - 2628 theaters
Total: $108.736 mil

7) Emperor's Club
Gross: $1.679 mil ($2078 per-screen) - 808 theaters
Total: $2.899 mil

8) My Greek Wedding
Gross: $1.670 mil ($1053 per-screen) - 1586 theaters
Total: $202.976 mil

9) Half Past Dead
Gross: $1.419 mil ($672 per-screen) - 2113 theaters
Total: $11.498 mil

10) Frida
Gross: $1.002 mil ($1262 per-screen) - 794 theaters
Total: $11.051 mil

HARRY POTTER really bounced back...jumping from $10 million to $18 million...wow!

[dh1989]

I am glad Potter BEAT Die Another Day on Saturday! :) Thanks for the numbers, The Other.

Okay no more "trounced". I did not know it would cause such an uproar.....

[Mike]

Originally posted by The Other
2) Die Another Day
Gross: $18.179 mil ($5485 per-screen) - 3314 theaters
Total: $33.917 mil

:eek:OH MY GOD!:eek:

I predicted 18.2 Million for Saturday at Lee's Movie Info, I'm so close, I haven't been this close for awhile at the BOFC game and I could really use a free DVD (Kissing Jessica Stein)...

[bob]

Err...I wouldn't say Harry Potter "trounced" Die Another Day on saturday, as it only made about 400K more.

RE: Harry Potter. It will be a huge hit and gross slightly less or just as much as the first.

RE: Die Another Day. It has the biggest opening ever for a James Bond movie, and will probably end up with a hefty take, although less than HP.

And, although I'm not a moderator, I've been on this board a while, and I feel I should remind you people that this thread is about BOX OFFICE GROSSES, not how good the movies in question are. Start a HP vs DAD thread if you want to talk about that.

[dh1989]

Yes, but the nature of "box office" is one film topping another. And that will spark discussions on which film is better, there is no stopping it.

[ANTBond007]

$500K is a 'trouncing'? So what did Die Another Day do to Chamber of Secrets on Friday? Demolish?

[Mike]

Originally posted by dh1989
Yes, but the nature of "box office" is one film topping another. And that will spark discussions on which film is better, there is no stopping it.

I agree, and there's nothing wrong with it, and it can't be prevented...

[Nate6]

Originally posted by dh1989
I am glad Potter trounced Die Another Day on Saturday!

Like ANTBond007 said, it made only $500,000 more...and if that's your definition of a trouncing then DAD destroyed HP on Friday.

[The Other]

Okay people, so trounced was probably the wrong word for dh1989 to use.

But, does that mean you need to "trounce" on him for saying it.

:confused:

[ANTBond007]

We're not trouncing, we're pouncing ;)

[Nate6]

OK, we should back off, but I mean, come on. Trounce? We're just defending DAD like dh1989 would defend HP.

[Mike]

Well maybe it didn't "trounce" on Die Another Day but it did have one hell of a nice increase and managed to edge past it...

[The Other]

I agree with Mike. While HP didn't trounce on DAD, it sure had one hell of an increase in ticket sales from Friday to Saturday.

[ANTBond007]

True. I'm not disputing that. But considering the fact that dh seems 'insulted' and 'horrified' that his beloved Harry Potter would fall to #2, I had to respond to his 'trouncing' comments.

[Wildbilld]

Originally posted by dh1989
I am glad Potter trounced Die Another Day on Saturday! :) Thanks for the numbers, The Other.

It should, go up on Sat, its a kids movie! :p ;) :D

[idealdiscountdude]

C'mon kids!

Can't we all just agree to disagree????

;)

[dh1989]

Originally posted by ANTBond007
$500K is a 'trouncing'? So what did Die Another Day do to Chamber of Secrets on Friday? Demolish?

Pretty much.....

[dh1989]

Okay, people I am sorry I said "trounced". I did not mean it as vicious, as many of you taken it. Its just with people saying "Go DAD, I am glad it beat that Potter crap", I went it to defense mode, which was dumb and immature. Once again, I apologize.

[Mike]

Originally posted by dh1989
Its just with people saying "Go DAD, I am glad it beat that Potter crap", I went it to defense mode, which was dumb and immature.

I get that same way if people trash a movie that I like/love or have interest in... It may be immature but it just really pisses me off when people do that so of course I have to defend it...

[ANTBond007]

Originally posted by dh1989
Okay, people I am sorry I said "trounced". I did not mean it as vicious, as many of you taken it. Its just with people saying "Go DAD, I am glad it beat that Potter crap", I went it to defense mode, which was dumb and immature. Once again, I apologize.

Then I'm sorry for our immature dispute and I'll stop now. :)

[idealdiscountdude]

Feel the love guys, feel the love!!!

Jesus, I do not know what is in to me tonight! Stress I suppose.....

Anywho, its great that you guys are settling this little dispute in such a mature fashion........

[Mike]

Warner Bros.' PG rated sequel Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets dropped one notch to second place in its second week with a still sizable ESTIMATED $42.37 million (-52%) at 3,682 theaters (theater count unchanged; $11,507 per theater). Its cume is approximately $148.5 million.

Directed by Chris Columbus, it stars Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson.

"That's really right where we want to be because we're going to pick up probably another $22 million between now and the end of the week with the holiday, so we'll end up about 39 or 40 percent for the week," Warner Bros. Distribution president Dan Fellman said Sunday morning.

Comparisons between the second weekend drops for Chamber of Secrets and last year's Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone aren't possible because of the way Thanksgiving fell last year. "You can't compare week to week because the day after Thanksgiving is the biggest day of the year," Fellman explained. "So all the kids are out (of school). We did $22 million on Friday and then we went down on Saturday. So you can't look at that (for comparison). You've got to go look at the week after to see what happens.

"What's important to look at is the second week. The reason we moved that (release) date up is because now we'll have this huge bump -- probably another $21-$22 million in between now and the end of the week -- so we'll finish the week down somewhere between 39 and 40 or 41 percent. Then we're coming into Thanksgiving weekend. In terms of drop off, the kids were back in school this Friday, so we did $11 million on Friday and we did almost $19 million last night (Saturday). What'll happen now is next Friday against the $11 million, we'll out-gross that by a huge amount. So our drop off for the third week is going to be minimal -- maybe 20 or 25 percent. So we'll have another huge week and at the end of three weeks we'll be right where the first one was."

Where is Chamber of Secrets heading? "After Thanksgiving, in a week, we'll we well over $200 million," Fellman replied. "We're going in the same direction (as Sorcerer's Stone, which did $317.6 million domestically). The question now is we have to see what happens over Thanksgiving against all the competition. The movie (according to many people) is a better movie than number one, so then we head for Christmas. The good news is that there's no big family Christmas movie out there after we pass Thanksgiving. It's just one of those movies everybody's going to see. So if they don't see it Thanksgiving, they'll see it over Christmas. We're on track."

[Nate6]

Originally posted by ANTBond007
Then I'm sorry for our immature dispute and I'll stop now. :)

Yes, I am also sorry, dh. Things get heated sometimes on here, but it's good to know no one inflicted any serious harm on anyone else.

[dh1989]

Originally posted by Mike
The good news is that there's no big family Christmas movie out there after we pass Thanksgiving

That will help CoS also. After Treasure Planet, it has no direct competition. There is The Two Towers, but that is aimed more for the 12+ age group(not that younger people won't see it either, but that is the demographic). I am very happy with what the Chamber of Secrets is doing. And if you are a Bond fan, I am happy Die Another Day is doing well. :) This weekend they co-exsisted and should continue to do so.

[dh1989]

Here is this weekend's article from Box Office Guru which always give an interesting insight into the the box office. Here it is....

THIS WEEKEND The North American box office was stricken with franchise fever as high-profile sequels captured the top four positions on the charts during an extremely busy weekend at the multiplexes. James Bond led the way as Die Another Day, the 20th installment in the 40-year-old series, opened triumphantly at number one pushing Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets down to number two. Friday After Next bowed in third, The Santa Clause 2 slipped to fourth, and the freshman pic The Emperor's Club debuted in seventh.

MGM generated the biggest opening weekend ever for the Bond franchise, and the second best bow in studio history, with Die Another Day which debuted at number one with an estimated $47M. Playing ultrawide in 3,314 theaters, the PG-13 film averaged a stellar $14,182 per location. The premiere bested the $35.5M from 3,163 sites that the last 007 flick, The World Is Not Enough, generated three years ago. For MGM, only last year's Hannibal has ever given the beleaguered studio a better opening with its $58M launch. The blockbuster performance comes as welcome news for the company which went into the weekend with a measly $206M in year-to-date grosses putting it in eleventh place among distributors with less than 3% marketshare.

With the popular Pierce Brosnan returning for his fourth turn as the British secret agent, the $125M-budgeted Die Another Day brought in existing Bond fans but with the addition of Oscar winner Halle Berry, the action-adventure broadened its appeal to a younger and more diverse audience. As has become standard with the Bond franchise, a seemingly endless line of promotional partners were lined up with each kicking in millions of marketing dollars to add to the pre-release hype. Audiences were pleased with Die as moviegoers polled by CinemaScore.com gave the Lee Tamahori-directed picture a grade of A-.

International openings in Spain, France, and the United Kingdom brought in an additional $23M this weekend. Brosnan's three previous spy flicks generated about two-thirds of their global grosses from outside of North America and Die Another Day is positioned to follow in the same footsteps. Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and World each took in over $340M worldwide and MGM and Fox, its overseas distribution partner, hope that the latest installment can reach the quadruple century mark.

Fellow Brit Harry Potter was not too far behind James Bond and settled for second place with an estimated $42.4M for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The 52% decline was not too surprising considering the wizard pic is a sequel coming off of a monster bow, but with glowing reviews and excellent exit polls last weekend, many in the industry were eyeing a smaller depreciation. Last year's Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone fell only 36% in its second weekend, however that session was the busy Thanksgiving holiday frame so comparisons would be unfair. After ten days of release, Chamber has grossed a terrific $148.5M and could reach the $200M mark by the end of Thanksgiving weekend.

Proving his bankability once again was Ice Cube whose Christmas comedy Friday After Next opened with an estimated $13.1M from 1,616 theaters. Averaging a strong $8,084, the R-rated sequel bowed below the level of its predecessor, 2000's Next Friday, which opened with $14.5M over the Friday-to-Sunday portion of its holiday frame from 1,103 sites. Friday After Next represents the third release for Cube this year after March's action-comedy All About the Benjamins which opened to $10M from 1,505 theaters and the fall hit Barbershop which debuted with $20.6M from 1,605 and has cut up over $75M to date. Moviegoers polled by CinemaScore.com gave the pic a B+ grade.

Kris Kringle and pals remained strong this weekend as Disney's The Santa Clause 2 dropped only 32% and collected an estimated $10.3M for fourth place. Tim Allen's holiday sequel has now banked $95M and hopes to be a major family choice over the upcoming Thanksgivng frame. Eminem's 8 Mile got punched around once again collapsing 55% in its third weekend to an estimated $8.7M giving the Universal drama $97.7M in only 17 days. Both films should break the $100M mark over the long Turkey Day session.

DreamWorks continued to see prolonged strength with its horror gem The Ring which slid just 29% to an estimated $7.6M in its sixth weekend. The remake thriller has upped its cume to $110.9M.

Universal kicked off its campaign for the Kevin Kline prep school drama The Emperor's Club with a small, but solid, opening of $4.1M from only 809 theaters. Averaging an encouraging $5,025 per site, the PG-13 film appealed mostly to adult women as 81% of the audience was over 30 and 62% were female, according to studio exit polls. With Die Another Day distracting adults, Universal opted for only a moderately wide release this weekend hoping that strong word-of-mouth will carry the $12.5M film through Thanksgiving weekend and December. Moviegoers polled by CinemaScore.com gave The Emperor's Club a grade of A- and 90% called the movie "Excellent" or "Very Good". Of the five new wide releases opening on Wednesday, only Fox's Solaris starring George Clooney should provide any major direct competition for Emperor.

Slipping down to eighth place was the surprise sensation of the year, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, which grossed an estimated $3.8M, off only 19%. The IFC Films smash has spent the last seventeen consecutive weekends in the top ten and is now depreciating at a steady rate. With $204.7M in the bank, Greek Wedding now sits at number 41 on the list of all-time domestic blockbusters and could eventually find its way to the neighborhood of $220M.

Sony's prison actioner Half Past Dead saw 58% of its audience escape in its sophomore weekend as the Steven Seagal pic grossed an estimated $3.3M pushing its ten-day cume to a weak $12.7M. Miramax rounded out the top ten with the Salma Hayek film Frida which took in an estimated $2.4M, down just 18% thanks in part to 275 extra playdates, for a total to date of $12.1M.

Three films dropped from the top ten over the weekend. Paramount's $5M surprise hit Jackass: The Movie has grossed $62M to date and should conclude with around $65M before a healthy life on video. Sony's $70M action-comedy I Spy has collected just $33M to date and should finish with a disappointing $36M. Buena Vista's Sweet Home Alabama has been one of the fall's top performers with a $123.5M take and looks to end with roughly $126M.

The top ten films grossed an estimated $142.6M which was up 3% from last year's Thanksgiving frame when Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone remained at number one with $57.5M; but down 13% from 2000's Turkey weekend when How the Grinch Stole Christmas stayed in the top spot with $52.1M.


Compared to projections, Die Another Day opened a few notches below my $53M forecast. Friday After Next debuted below my $18M prediction while The Emperor's Club bowed close to my $5M projection.

[bluegopher]

Who cares that much which film is # 1 anyway? Both Die Another Day and Harry Potter will make loads of money while equally good (if not better) films like Below and Femme Fatale are or were criminally ignored during their theatrical release. Those are the films people should be angry about not making any money when they deserved more exposure by their respective studios.

[idealdiscountdude]

Frida is doing quite well in Limited Release which is good news. I'm still waiting to see it.

Far From Heaven expanded to some 250 screens this weekend and saw a big increase in ticket sales. It grossed some $1.6 million (good enough for 11th place) and scored a per screen average of over $6000 dollars. I hope that it continues to play well. It should hold up extremely weel this coming weekend.

[TheMovieMinor]

Originally posted by bluegopher
while equally good (if not better) films like Below and Femme Fatale are or were criminally ignored during their theatrical release.

Um.. Femme Fatale was trashed by every critic, and every living being till date, except you.

[TheMovieMinor]

According to the James Bond Website, this one was the 21st James Bond Movie.

Which one did they take out, as a non Bond film?

www.jamesbond.com
click the dvd collection

[bob]

Actually, Roger Ebert gave Femme Fatale four stars, and there's a list of other critics that liked it in last weeks movie answer man column.

P.S. Never Say Never Again isn't an "official" bond movie as it was made by Columbia.

[Nomade]

I'm realy starting wondering how much The Two Towers will make compare to Potters numbers. FOTR fell pretty close to it in total gross, will TTT make more than COS ? There's good chance...

[dh1989]

I always thought Casino Royale was a Bond film, but when I rented it, I was very shocked.

[Mike]

Originally posted by TheMovieMinor
Um.. Femme Fatale was trashed by every critic, and every living being till date, except you.

Actually, it's a little unfair to say it was trashed by every critic and every living being because that's entirely not true. Some critics loved it, some critics thought it was ok, and some critics hated it, overall the reviews were mixed. And audiences didn't hate it either, the Cinema Scores were decent, they weren't bad but weren't great. Bluegopher isn't the only one that loved Femme Fatale, quite a few people did actually. And based on the reviews I've read it seems like it might be one of the most underrated movies of the year. I didn't see it in theaters but I'm looking forward to checking it out on video...

Next time I'd do a little research before making such a powerful statement ;)...

[TheMovieMinor]

Originally posted by Mike
Next time I'd do a little research before making such a powerful statement ;)...

Oh, I'm sorry. I will do a bit more research, but this one site had it as junk so.. and all my friends said the same.


Casino Royale was extremely boring, thank goodness it wasnt a bond film.

Never Say Never Again came out the same year as Octopussy. So I had a feeling but wasnt sure. But it starred James Bonds, Roger moore to say, right? And the rest of the crew.

[dh1989]

I do not believe anyone has mentioned this yet, but I must say, I am very happy for The Santa Clause 2. It has been out for quite a bit of time now and it has a lot of competition at the cineplex, but it still did very, very well with 10.28 Million. It is a good family film and I hope it continues to go on wonderfully.

[The Other]

Originally posted by idealdiscountdude
Feel the love guys, feel the love!!!

Jesus, I do not know what is in to me tonight! Stress I suppose.....

Anywho, its great that you guys are settling this little dispute in such a mature fashion........
Does it bring a tear to your eye, idealdiscountdude? ;) :p

[EDsoulsurvive*]

Im happy w/ this weeks #'s cuz i contributed to both HP and DAD.


MIKE did u win the DVD?

[Mike]

Originally posted by Mike
That is kickass, mainly because I predicted 47.1 Million and I just "might" win a free DVD at Lees Movie Info, I know I could sure use one... DIE ANOTHER DAY made 15.739 Million on Friday and I predicted 16.1 Million for Friday, so it's not too far off...

Well, I didn't win :(. I'm a little disappointed, especially since I came pretty damn close, but I did get 17 points :)...

[dellamorte dellamore]

I can easily see why Femme didn't light the lamp at the box - office, it lokks to be a mind bender , just too confusing and involving for the casual moviegoer. Sometimes a film that requires you to think a little does real well at the cinema ( Minority Report, Memento, Mulholland ), but mainly they will be appreciated on video and dvd.



Bond is mindless action sequences with two attractive leads, you don't have to think too much, and it will fade from memory not long after the credits.


Now as far as Two Towers potential goes, that's a tough one. There are some people i know that have no interest in the sequel because they were confused with the first, but i would say the majority of them couldn't wait for the sequel after i showed them FOTR. Especially after i showed them the trailer for TT. People that never really cared for Tolkien or his writings are excited about TT, so i feel this one could easily eclipse the original. The only problem i see is the running time, people get impatient after 2 hours. I just can't believe it's almost here, this is the only reason i can see to go to the theater and buy overpriced tickets. That and RE 2: Nemesis ( may have to change that name because of Star Trek ).

[Mike]

Yeah, FEMME FATALE did get compared to MULHOLLAND DR. countless times in reviews. Mainstream audiences just aren't too big on mindfuck movies, that's why I was surprised its Cinema Score grades weren't worse...

[idealdiscountdude]

Originally posted by The Other
Does it bring a tear to your eye, idealdiscountdude? ;) :p

Oh it does The Other!! It does!!! ;)

[Kastman]

for no reason what so ever i will post sunday's box office numbers.

1 (2) Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets $12,513,680 $148,358,831
2 (1) Die Another Day $11,406,652 $47,072,040
3 (3) Friday After Next $3,400,000 $13,010,767
4 (4) Santa Clause 2, The $2,969,556 $94,944,099
5 (5) 8 Mile $2,042,150 $97,579,500
6 (6) Ring, The $1,670,369 $110,837,875
7 (8) My Big Fat Greek Wedding $930,000 $204,520,221 220
8 (7) Emperor's Club, The $910,125 $3,846,780
9 (10) Frida $745,000 $12,055,767
10 (9) Half Past Dead $705,084 $12,501,542

[dh1989]

I believe the reason CoS made more than DAD on Sat. and Sun. is because of the family factor. CoS is more family-oriented and, maybe this is just me, but I notice that families go to movies more on Sat. and Sun. than Fri.

[ANTBond007]

Actually, according to Mojo, D.A.D. topped C.O.S. on Saturday.