Blair Witch

[Tylersays]

In the Blair Witch Project does anyone think that the two guys had set up the whole trip to trick the girl into the house and then killed her, not the BLAIR WITCH?

[ManiacGoalie]

Well i think Josh had a hand in the killing of Heather and Michael. I pretty sure that some how Josh was under some kind of trance and that was him down in the basement who killed Heather and who knows what happend to Mike.

[countchocula]

Guys, remember to post spoiler warnings.

[heretic]

No I do not think that,
I think that the witch killed them all

[Haddonfield]

waaaay too much thinking going on in here...


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the blair Witch killed em all. they were all dead by the hands on one woman. dont read into anything...the guys had nothing to do with it...in fact, they were pretty much killed in a brutal way...

[Requiem-for-a-Dream]

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There is a theory that Josh killed them but I don't know. What made the first Blair Witch so amazing was that it could have been any of the towns folk, the blair witch, josh, someone possessed etc.

I truly believe that an unknown force was at work.

Matt

[JivaFox]

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But they said the Blair Witch killed by placing one person in the corner while she killed the other. When Heather goes down into the basement, Mike is in the corner facing the wall, and Heather is killed. It does add up to the Blair Witch theory.

[Mojo67821]

sorry but you're wrong...the Blair Witch did not kill that way.

That is how "Rustin Parr" killed all those children. This is explained by one of the townsfolk in the beginning.

So it probably wasn't the Blair Witch...but someone under the influence of her power...IMO

[Romero&Juliet]

cooool topic~!!!

SPOILERS...!

You know a horror movie has reached supreme cult status when some really creative alterior motives are being created about the movie....I never actually gavethe thought to the 'conspiracy' until I heard it here a little while ago.. I must say that it's a GREAT spin on the movie.. I haven't seen the Blair Witch in a loooong time, but I guess it would be pretty feasible. I think the method of operation for the last kill (setup, etc..), would suggest a little scheming among the boys..

[Requiem-for-a-Dream]

Originally posted by Mojo67821
sorry but you're wrong...the Blair Witch did not kill that way.

That is how "Rustin Parr" killed all those children. This is explained by one of the townsfolk in the beginning.

So it probably wasn't the Blair Witch...but someone under the influence of her power...IMO

Don't tell him he's wrong try not to be so negative dude, he's just saying what most of us think. One of the townsfolk did say that the Blair Witch killed that way. It wouldn't add up if Rustin Parr killed that way, the movie wouldn't be killed "Blair Witch" Project.

But still, even though that was the way the Blair Witch killed doesn't mean she did it. It could have been Josh mimicking the blair witch through hysteria but then where did they gore come from? Unless he pulled out some teeth and a chunk of his intestine, they had to have come from somewhere, so the logical assumption is that someone or something killed Josh . It also could have been that old crazy bitch who they interviewed. I don't think we'll ever truly know, the ending was filmed that way for a reason, the audience is supposed to fill in the blanks themselves. Do you ever see the killer????? No, so we don't know for sure.

And yes, it is a great topic. I love open endings.

Matt

[thebloodfeaster]

Wow, I loved the movie when I saw it in the theater, but I have to say I had not considered alot of these theories about Josh or whoever being the killer until reading about them here.

One thing that was really freaky about this movie was the points where you could hear little children laughing, and then inside the house you could see little kid's handprints on one of the walls. This led me to believe the possibility that little kids or the ghosts of little kids were the reality behind the Blair Witch. Also, the way the guy was standing facing the wall in the corner is how little kids are sent to "timeout" alot of times. Maybe the kids sent older people to "timeout" before killing them, just like the older people used to send the kids to timeout.

[DrLoomis]

One question I would like to know. I the film when the tent is "attacked" in the night and is shaken and they flee u hear some noises and Heather looks back and screams "what the hell is that!" what do you think that was ? had Josh disappeared by now I cant remember ?

[NuclearMisfit]

Someone once told me there was a cut version of the ending where it shows everything, if anyone knows about this ending please let us know.

[izombie]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
Someone once told me there was a cut version of the ending where it shows everything, if anyone knows about this ending please let us know.

Never heard of it, nor is it listed in IMDB (take that for what it's worht ;) ) I doubt that there is a version like that because (to me anyway) the whole point of the movie was not really seeing or knowing what exaclty happened.

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit

Someone once told me there was a cut version of the ending where it shows everything, if anyone knows about this ending please let us know.


I think you`re thinking of the video game, which apparently shows what happened to Heather and Mike.

P.S. - I think it was Jason all along.

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by Elgyn
I think you`re thinking of the video game, which apparently shows what happened to Heather and Mike.


Which video game shows this?I have the one about Robin Weaver and your this guy named Lazarus.

[izombie]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
Which video game shows this?I have the one about Robin Weaver and your this guy named Lazarus.

I forget which one if was in, I played them all back to back nad they have sort of blended toghter, I think it was the first one with Doc Holiday from Nocturne.

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by DrLoomis
One question I would like to know. I the film when the tent is "attacked" in the night and is shaken and they flee u hear some noises and Heather looks back and screams "what the hell is that!" what do you think that was ? had Josh disappeared by now I cant remember ?


well I can tell you what they were really seeing and that was the two directors and some friends all dressed up in white chasing them. they went up to the tent and "attacked"...I think if you watch that scene frame by frame you can catch a glimps of one of the guys in white.

I really like how this film was done in "commando" style. its a perfect camp fire story come to life.

and I want to say that Josh was still there at this point...I may be wrong but I think that the next day they went back to there tent and thats when Josh's stuff was all slimed and what not...he then dissapeard that night...what a creepy movie.

[Lord Crumb]

I'm going to move this over to PAST, kids!

[KillerKlown]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
and I want to say that Josh was still there at this point...I may be wrong but I think that the next day they went back to there tent and thats when Josh's stuff was all slimed and what not...he then dissapeard that night...what a creepy movie.

You're exactly right - he vanishes that night and they hear him calling out in the darkness the following night....Then Heather finds the little package with the teeth and some other thing, which I always thought was a tongue.

I felt that there was a concotion of evil in this film - the killing style of Rustin Parr, the children's voices during the tent attack, but the driving force behind them all is the Blair witch.

[Draccoca]

when heather screams "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!!!!" it was a guy dressed all in white but she didn't capture it with the camera so they couldn't use it. also rustin parr did kill the kids the same way as mike and heather were killed but he was doing it cause the blair witch told him to.

now the wierd thing is that the house was torched after rustin parr was killed. but it was found intact (more or less) buy mike and heather

[Dude]

I dont think there is any deep or hidden meaning in BWP. What you see is what you get... a loud, somewhat inspired, but half hearted attempt at scares and thrills, which uses too much cussing for tension effect, and an unsatisfying ending. Book of Shadows, though no masterpiece of horror, is much more satisfying.

[the night watchman]

Originally posted by Mojo67821
sorry but you're wrong...the Blair Witch did not kill that way.

That is how "Rustin Parr" killed all those children. This is explained by one of the townsfolk in the beginning.

So it probably wasn't the Blair Witch...but someone under the influence of her power...IMO

Actually, I have to agree with Mojo. But you have to remember that this is a movie about the supernatural. It shouldn't necessarily be subject to easy explanation, logic, or reason. To a certain extent, I think the Blair Witch, Rustin Parr, the children he killed, eventually Josh, and even the land itself ultimately become indistinguishable from one another.

[angelinwhite]

First of all, this is a great thread! Some really interesting thoughts and opinions that I had never heard or considered before.

I never considered that the ending may have been Josh. Interesting thought.

I'll give my two cents worth on a couple of items discussed previously here.

1. I have heard from several folks that this movie was filmed "on the fly", with the actors (Josh, Mike and Heather) walking into the woods and then being lead by a director/crew with notes along the way on what to next and where to go and then filming what happened along the way.

Just my opinion but I don't think the film was done this way. I might be wrong but I believe all participants were very aware of what was going on and that the scenes were all scripted to a degree with participation by the actors. Here's a couple of reasons why I think this.

1. There would be no need to try and film a movie this way. The actions/reactions would be too unpredictable to entrust to pure chance what the actors would do if they were simply being lead along.

2. No way a crew could follow the actors around in the woods from spot to spot without being seen or heard when setting them up. How would they know where the actors were going to be or wind up? Too complicated to think a movie could be shot this way.

3. When you watch this film, while very realistic, there are many set up scenes where the actors obviously know what they're supposed to do and how to react. I just don't think you'd see that if they truly had not known what was going to happen next.

Okay so enough of that. Now my version of what Heather saw when she screamed "what the hell is that"

Since I don't think it was anyone else from the crew dressed in a sheet, and that it was purely scripted for her to say as she ran into the woods, I think in the story itself she sees the Blair Witch. If you notice, she's looking upwards when she starts screaming. I think in the dark the witch makes herself known by flying above the kids as they are running after having attacked their tent. What Heather sees (in my eyes while I'm watching it) is a white, ghostlike figure hovering above them, then disappearing into the night.

I love it!!!

As to who killed Mike and Heather, I think the witch. But I do remember thinking to myself when I first saw it that it could be another person. I think all signs in the film leading up to that point are that Josh is already dead. While you do here his voice in the house moaning and screaming, I think that is just a ploy by the witch to get them down to the basement where she can kill them.

So much for my view!! Great posts guys.

[Draccoca]

the movie was filmed on the fly, heather josh and mike had gps systems so that they wouldn't get lost, yes some of it was scripted but the attacks weren't, where they set up camp was scripted so that the crew could easily find them. if you listen to the commentary on the dvd they talk about the film making in depth

[angelinwhite]

I guess I can accept that there were some on the fly moments, but the actors had to know something was going to happen since that's why they were out there in the first place. If you know someone is going to be f'ing with you, then what's the point? Heather or any of the other's reactions were still somewhat scripted I think.

I know that they were supposedly given gps systems and all, but remember too that when this story first came out, a lot of people actually believed the story and events were all real. I think the notion that this whole thing was done commando style is probably extra hype to add to the legend. Just my humble opinion, that's all.

My point is that in the story (regardless of real life events) I think she was supposed to be seeing the Blair Witch. I think sometimes we get too caught up in the intricasies of a film to really sit back and enjoy the story.

[the night watchman]

In the audio commentary on the DVD, the directors explain that the actors actually got lost once in the rain. They ran across a house and the couple that lived there where gracious enough to let them spend the night.

Also, none of the dialogue or reactions were scripted, but each actor had plot points he or she was responsible for. The crew left the actors notes at each camp site, which would be read privately by each person. None of the actors knew what any of the others would do.

[angelinwhite]

In the interest of this thread and not wanting to take away from the original question and good posts above, I will concede then that the film was done on the fly.

[the night watchman]

Going back to the original question, I really don't see anything that even suggests some sort of conspiracy on the part of Josh and Michael, or any kind of prosaic explanation like that. It's interesting, but what part of the movie supports it? I mean, you'd have to explain the uncanny stillness of the woods, the nocturnal attacks, the group's inability to find their way out, the stick figures, etc. Some of these could have been orchastrated by people, but together it just seems highly unlikely.