View Full Version : Loving a movie for all the WRONG reasons!
Sometimes you talk to people about movies you like and they go "Yeah that movie's fucking great", and you think "Wow we have the same taste, cool!".
But than you find out that they 'interpret' "your" movie in a whole different way and it really pisses you off.
Example:
I was talking to a guy about how great 'Fight Club' was and he was like:
" I really thought it was cool to see how they beat the crap outa eachother and how they pulled off all that crazy shit" and how he wanted to be one of the space-monkeys.(!)
All I could think was that he just didn't get the point the movie was trying to make and when I tried to explain the deeper meaning to him, he told me not to get all philosophical about it!
Same thing with 'A Clockwork Orange' (different person though)
People can be so shallow......it is fucking annoying!:mad:
uncle_el
12-09-2002, 09:32 PM
i agree. i've found that 1. people either love or hate "fight club" and 2. people see the many layers, or they're completely oblivious.
i guess "the matrix" is similar... some people think all of the guns are cool, but kinda missed the point(s)
Annie Hall
12-09-2002, 09:34 PM
I have found the same things for many movies (mainly of the more "violent" variety). Many people tend to see the shallow part, instead of what the filmmaker or script is obviously trying to imply.
Ronaldinho
12-09-2002, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by uncle_el
i guess "the matrix" is similar... some people think all of the guns are cool, but kinda missed the point(s)
I think it's disingenuous, however, to suggest that the filmmakers aren't preying on the fact that people think guns are cool.
Let's face it, The Matrix really indulges in the Fulleresque pornography of violence. It revels in it. They /want/ you to look at all those guns and bullets and stuff blowing up and go, "Cooool."
Fight Club does, too, although I think it's a much more complex work. They definitely shot it for maximum visceral thrill.
Originally posted by Toby
But than you find out that they 'interpret' "your" movie in a whole different way and it really pisses you off.
Thats why we all aren't the same person, we see things differently. Joe A. may like Memento because he liked the way the scenary looked, and Joe B. may have liked it for the other obvious reason (no spoilers here). That doesn't mean either was wrong, and I think that you aren't justified to get pissed off because someone didnt see the same thing you did in "YOUR" movie.
Annie Hall
12-10-2002, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by free
Thats why we all aren't the same person, we see things differently. Joe A. may like Memento because he liked the way the scenary looked, and Joe B. may have liked it for the other obvious reason (no spoilers here). That doesn't mean either was wrong, and I think that you aren't justified to get pissed off because someone didnt see the same thing you did in "YOUR" movie.
This seems to be a great debate on the boards throughout the posts...if you enjoy a movie, does it matter the reasons? If someone enjoys The Matrix because there are guns...does that make their enjoyment any less than your own? No.
But, I certainly understand where it can be frustrating that you love a movie so much, and see all of the layering and hopefully the intent of the makers...only to hear someone say that it was great purely because of reasons you find to be totally shallow.
freakandgeek
12-10-2002, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by free
Thats why we all aren't the same person, we see things differently. Joe A. may like Memento because he liked the way the scenary looked, and Joe B. may have liked it for the other obvious reason (no spoilers here). That doesn't mean either was wrong, and I think that you aren't justified to get pissed off because someone didnt see the same thing you did in "YOUR" movie.
i agree
Irene Manor
12-10-2002, 08:06 AM
Well, I think that sometimes people CAN see a movie for the wrong reason.
Things like The Matrix doesn't bother me, because I think the message would eventually sink in.
But if someone saw American Beauty and though that the message was **********SPOILERS********* that people get theirs in the end.... well that, I think, would be just plain wrong.
RogueSpear
12-10-2002, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by free
Thats why we all aren't the same person, we see things differently. Joe A. may like Memento because he liked the way the scenary looked, and Joe B. may have liked it for the other obvious reason (no spoilers here). That doesn't mean either was wrong, and I think that you aren't justified to get pissed off because someone didnt see the same thing you did in "YOUR" movie.
Exactly!
I mean, how do we know exactly what point a movie is trying to make? We don't. Therefore we are free to make up our own judgments/opinions/assumptions based on the movie we see. It's ludicrous to think that everyone is going to view a movie the same way.
Who cares if someone sees a movie differently than you. Not everyone's supposed to be the same.
Ender
12-10-2002, 02:31 PM
I'll admit that some people are quite dense when it comes to matters of interpreting movies, but all in all, I don't really think there's really a wrong reason to like a certain movie (with a few notable exceptions. Anyone who like IRREVERSIBLE because they dig rape scenes can kindly stay 500 yards away from me at all times). I love it when someone likes a movie for a different reason than I did because it gives me the chance to explain my view on it and really get down into the guts of the film and all of the intricate details (assuming there are intricate details).
tylerdurdensays
12-28-2002, 11:45 PM
A friend of mine told me this about "Vanilla Sky" before I had seen it.
"Yeah, it sucked, it was boring. But Penelope Cruz has a mole! On her tit! It was awesome, we saw her boobies! Her boobies! And at the end, I stood up and yelled, 'What? No more of Penelope Cruz's boobies?'"
Mr_Jinx
12-31-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Irene Manor
Things like The Matrix doesn't bother me, because I think the message would eventually sink in.
But if someone saw American Beauty and though that the message was **********SPOILERS********* that people get theirs in the end.... well that, I think, would be just plain wrong.
Your right, American beauty wasnt about that.
The reason I love that movie so much is because its about normal issues in life with your family and also that you shouldnt go through life if you dont like your life...as in if you dont like your life....CHANGE IT!
Mad Maggot
01-02-2003, 09:10 AM
It bothers me a lot, I must tell you!!! I can't stand those people who LOVE movie just because of the actor...
I have a friend, she says she loves Brad Pitt. She says: 'Oh God, he's so sexy in Fight Club and so sweet, I'd love to kiss him' blaaaa.... So do many people. Of course actor means A LOT, but is actor's sexuality the main reason why people must love the movie???? NOOO!!!!!!!!!!:mad: It annoys me so much!
Some people can't interpret movies at all. I don't understand how can a person watch, for example, Fight Club (seems like today is the day of my referring to this movie) and say Brad Pitt is sexy, and don't even think about plot, idea and all.... grrrrrr.........
Originally posted by Mad Maggot
and say Brad Pitt is sexy, and don't even think about plot, idea and all.... grrrrrr.........
I can tell you one thing my friend, In the Blair Wench Project....I could give a shit less about the plot, acting, special effects, ect...
:D
ParileseMonster
01-13-2003, 06:40 PM
However a person chooses to like a film is their buissness. If you come out of it feeling like you enjoyed yourself then you are not wrong.:p
Are you sure these people did not get the point? Maybe they did but remembered the violence stuff more, do like I do and put the person through the ringer and get them involved in plot points and feel them for different opinions. If they still act like dorks about it then forget about it and do not waste your time watching a movie with them in the future!:p
Girlntereptid13
01-14-2003, 10:40 PM
it's so annoying when people are just so oblivious to a movie's meaning (especially classic ones, like 'the clockwork orange' as was mentioned before), but it can also get annoying when people over-intellectualize movies that are meant not to be too serious or philosophical... it gets on my nerves.
ilovemovies
01-16-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Girlntereptid13
but it can also get annoying when people over-intellectualize movies that are meant not to be too serious or philosophical... it gets on my nerves.
That would actually get on my nerves moreso than the other thing you guys are talking about.
TheDeadWalk
01-16-2003, 02:39 AM
Have you ever noticed how some people take movies and blow them completely the fuck out of proportion?
Like the Wizard of Oz being about the great depression of the 30's and showing that we all have to do our part and fantasy land will never be an option, etc. etc. etc.
Man that gets irritating...
Though moreso has to be the people that can't make sense of a conclusive ending, so they just make up stuff that they wanted to have happen after the film was over... This happens with a lot of horror fans I've talked to on various Friday the 13ths and Halloween films where the movies didn't correlate from beginning to end, except in they're minds they did where they have this wonderful explanation of things that never happened...
ICP RULZ
01-20-2003, 01:57 AM
Ok,I gotta say something. You know what pisses me off,when people think their opinions are better than others just because they don't look at the movies the same way. For example,I watched American Beauty and loved it and enjoyed it but never really thought anything of it. I also watched Saving Private Ryan and thought about the brotherhood of men at war and the pain and sufering they must've felt.
So what I am saying is that I enjoy movies for all sorts of reasons. And that there is no right way to look and enjoy a movie
Peace
RobertAndres
01-30-2003, 02:28 PM
:cool:
Irene Manor
01-31-2003, 01:27 PM
Yeah, but you people saying that there are many ways to love a movie and that you shouldn't get mad if someone likes a movie for a reason different than you....
Would you get upset if a skinhead said that Boys Don't Cry was a good movie because ******SPOILERS******* "a gay person was attacked".
Hannibal21
02-02-2003, 08:54 AM
I have friends at school who said they LOVED Lord of the Rings because of Legolas! They said: "the movie rocked because of him! If it weren't for him, the movie would've sucked. We love Orlando Bloom, he's the only actor in LOTR that we liked. He helped made the movie!"
I cringe whenever I hear they say that, do they care about the plot at ALL????? Personally, I don't think Orlando is all that, and if they're going to praise him continually, I think I might HAVE to rip their heads off.
Same for A WALK TO REMEMBER. People liked that movie because they thought Shane West was cute and didn't care about the plot whatsoever.
Mad Maggot
02-02-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Hannibal21
I have friends at school who said they LOVED Lord of the Rings because of Legolas! They said: "the movie rocked because of him! If it weren't for him, the movie would've sucked. We love Orlando Bloom, he's the only actor in LOTR that we liked. He helped made the movie!"
Same here... My classmates (the ones who saw either TFOTR or TTT) say he stole the show... Ummm...... I'm boiling when I hear that!!!!!!!! :mad: What are we talking about, movies?
Originally posted by Irene Manor
Would you get upset if a skinhead said that Boys Don't Cry was a good movie because ******SPOILERS******* "a gay person was attacked".
No, because maybe he could understand what that movie was trying to say. Gay people aren't sick, they aren't evil, and they aren't doing anything wrong.
Irene Manor
02-18-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by free
No, because maybe he could understand what that movie was trying to say. Gay people aren't sick, they aren't evil, and they aren't doing anything wrong.
Would you get upset if someone said that they liked BOYS DON'T CRY because **********SPOILERS AGAIN*************** they said "That dude got beat up and killed because he was gay. I love that movie. Hopefully gay people will watch it and it'll show them that it's wrong to be gay."
*******END SPOILERS AND HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION************
I'm just saying, that's all. There's some reasons I think are blatantly wrong for liking a movie. And yes, people have the freedom of choice to like something for whatever reason, and I also have the freedom to choose to think it is for the wrong reasons.
I guess I wouldn't get upset, though. I'm not much of an extremist. It seems comical to me. I've never heard that example above, but there have been some that were just as off-kilter. I'm still trying to see the connection someone made between Independence Day and masturbation.
CriticalBill6966
02-18-2003, 03:36 PM
I think it all depends on the persons IQ.
But there are execptions to the rule.
Like the way I feel about Wassbi. I just fucking love that movie. It sucks. It's complet garbage. The plot is boring. And I loved every min. of it.
When Jene Reno hits someone and they fly 40 feet back in the air and makes you laugh everytime.....that's when you know you have something special. Great B movie.
I agree that you cannot argue over taste. But there's also a thing like quality....
Originally posted by Irene Manor
Would you get upset if someone said that they liked BOYS DON'T CRY because **********SPOILERS AGAIN*************** they said "That dude got beat up and killed because he was gay. I love that movie. Hopefully gay people will watch it and it'll show them that it's wrong to be gay."
*******END SPOILERS AND HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION************
Yes, I would get very upset. I actually
******spoiler for BDC*********
wanted to beat the shit outta those bigots who killed her.
******END*********
(damn that was one of the few movies i cried over)
I'm still trying to see the connection someone made between Independence Day and masturbation.
Are you serious? lmfao :p
James Logan
02-21-2003, 03:29 PM
Well, I'm an open-minded sonuvabitch, and movies are subjective, so I guess there's no "wrong" reasons for liking or disliking one. There are stupid reasons, reasons you don't agree with, but none of them are "wrong".
But that's just the idealistic, open-minded, cool, loving part of me speaking. I'll be disagreeing with myself by tomorrow.
XvoorheesX
02-26-2003, 07:03 PM
I saw fight-club with my friend and his firlfriend.
Me: "That was an amazing movie".
Girlfriend: "I know! Brad Pitt AND Edward Norton had their shirts off!"
It was the dumbest/ funniest thing I've ever heard.
And I find that with David Lynch. People either love him or hate him, and you dont need to completely understand the movie to do either.
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