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ToasT
12-17-2002, 06:12 PM
The thing that really bugs me is that most production companies don't realize that advertising is as important as the movie itself. Many times I've noticed that after I have seen a movie I realize that the trailer either ruined it for me or made it seem that I was gonna see a different film.

The trailer for Castaway starring Tom Hanks and a volleyball could be seen everywhere and at anytime. And for a person who is living, I saw that trailer two times as many digits that I have on my hands. So when it came time to actually watch the movie I already knew what the crash looked like, the fire dancing scene, his talking to a volleyball, his failed attempts at making a raft, and of course the final scenes where his wife (Helen Hunt) runs in the rain toward his dearly missed husband and where he makes a life changing decsion at the intersection. As you have noticed, i'm not adding the *spoiler* sign because all that i've mentioned was in the trailer not including the emotional dialouge heard. Advertising like that should not even be allowed. There should be some kind of screening by a person who has seen the film to check these sort of things.

One other advertising technique that pisses me off to the next degree is when the trailer makes the film completely different than it actually is. Do any of you guys remember how hyped you were when you first saw the coming attraction of Pearl Harbor. I remember too. Now do you remember how crushed you were when the ending credits rolled by your weary eyes. So do I. This film was sold as a movie about one day that changed the United States forever, not about a love triangle between two best friends and a nurse. This movie would have probably been liked much more if it was advertised as a love story instead of it advertising the amazing fourty minutes of action of December 7th.

Another film that suffered the same problem was the World War II film Hart's War. It was made out to be an action-packed prision break film with a hard-boiled officer (Bruce Willis) as the Rambo of the movie. Hart's War is actually a courtroom mystery. An inmate of this Nazi prision was murdered in the middle of the night, a Tuskegee airmen who held anger toward the victim was blamed and another was murdered. A sympathetic but shunned officer (Colin Ferrel) who knows that the airman was innocent goes on a quest to find out who the killer really is. The trailer did not show any inclination that the movie it was representing was in fact a mystery. All that was seen was all the explosions and action in the film and Bruce Willis delivering a piece of dialouge that was supposed to be a surprise at the end of the film. When in the theater watching the movie, I constantly remembered the line that Bruce Willis said, but it didn't arise early on. I waited and waited until the tension rose at the end of the film when I then realized what was going to happen. It sucked that the movie was ruined for me but it was still a solid movie nevertheless. Only if the director screened these things then Hart's War may have gotten the reviews it deserved. (It was not great but good).

But then again I do understand why companies might decieve the audience by creating a false representation of the movie. If a movie is a courtroom drama/mystery and may not appeal to all audiences, the film could be advertised as a non-stop action thriller just to make more money. Same goes for a film with a love story basis which is predominately thought as a "female" kind of movie. It is sad to see a message skewerd by greed.

happy OUT here
12-17-2002, 10:11 PM
This is frustrating, I agree. It makes me mad when they show all the funny stuff in the trailer for a "hilarious comedy" and then the movie is hum drum, or boring. EVERY funny line was in the trailer, including a few funny things that actually got edited prior to release. One such example was "Drop Dead Gorgeous".

The trailer made it look so funny, but what a waste of money & time!

BorderEevilIII
12-17-2002, 11:01 PM
I do agree that trailers & TV spots may or do give away way too many scences for a given movie. But trailers are supposed to give you a taste of what to expect. Sometimes too much of a dosage IMO!

ToasT
12-17-2002, 11:23 PM
I agree with you Mr.EevilIII, that audiences should be allowed only a taste of what to expect not the full meal.

You're also right happy OUT here, about trailers that reveal too much about upcoming comedies. I saw the Scary Movie trailer and had a hernia from the laughter but then saw the movie on Starz and was greatly disappointed. All the good parts were ruined and there were no other funny parts.



To me, a perfect example of a good trailer is the second one (longer one) for the movie The Thin Red Line. It showed the viewer what to expect. The emotion, flashbacks, thoughts, and the not-so-in-your-face action. Great example.

freakandgeek
12-18-2002, 04:48 AM
when i saw the trailor for changing lanes, i knew the movie before i even saw it. that definately ruined it. i love previews like the hulk preview and the t3 preview, but i am sure they are going to have longer ones later. erg....but i hate that. i also hate it when they have all the funny parts of comedies in the previews. you think there's gonna be more funny parts, but actually, you've seen them all already. it makes me upset. i like it when the preview is just like ten seconds long and when its over you're like "what the...?"

ToasT
12-18-2002, 12:09 PM
I remember watching the Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back extras and hearing Kevin Smith say that he made his own internet trailer before the theatrical one came out.

Now that is a great idea. It gives the director a chance to sell his own movie the way he intends to and not destroy it before it is even seen.

Bloodybitch13
12-18-2002, 01:44 PM
I have to agree with you on the Scary Movie trailer. I thought it was going to be so funny but instead it was a bunch of gross-out jokes. All the funny stuff was in the trailer. :( Wahhhhh! **sob**

movies35
12-20-2002, 03:20 PM
yes I think such comedys like Scary Movie and Big Daddy were ruined because almost all the funny jokes were in the trailers. But there were a lot of movies that barrely have any jokes in the trailer like Legally Blonde. Trailers do show way to much of the movie. You don't wanna give the whole movie away, just show what the crowd is gonna get..... like Solaris

ToasT
12-30-2002, 03:00 PM
The best trailer for a movie that I have seen was for the movie, Unbreakable. It just showed Bruce Willis sitting on a hospital chair and a doctor asking many questions about a train wreck. Then he points out the fact that he is the only survivor and without a scratch on him. The it cuts to the title and that's it. Perfect. Nothing more was needed. It presented the question and caused the audience to want to see the movie to find out what the answer is.
Perfect.

noisy_brut
12-31-2002, 10:31 AM
I hate this too...

CastAway and What Lies Beneath were both ruined.

Spy Game made it seem like Redford would be going off to rescue Brad Pitt, while in reality, the whole movie was pretty much a big flashback scene.

I agree Unbreakable had a great Trailer, I'd also add that the Phantom Menace had an amazing trailer also.

ToasT
12-31-2002, 06:16 PM
Yeah, the Phantom Menace trailer just juiced it up for all the Star Wars fans.

ffunyman
01-02-2003, 06:04 PM
exactly like I-Spy. The only thing they didnt show was that they were trying to get a plane that can turn invisible. It was pretty ho-hum but might have been better if i didnt know all what tehy were going to say

Mad Maggot
01-03-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by ToasT
One other advertising technique that pisses me off to the next degree is when the trailer makes the film completely different than it actually is.

Absolutely agree here!

Usually they put the best scenes of the movie to the trailer to attract attention of yours and to make to watch the movie. But adding those scenes to the movie - like, for example, the most funny ones or the most romantic ones, making us think that's a comedy or a melodrama, but in fact it is some thriller or horror movie - they usually make us to have a wrong impression. Not always of course, but it happens sometimes.

Big Pudge
01-04-2003, 04:19 AM
the best trailer i have seen yet, is for a movie that all companies have been scared shitless to release (except Lions Gate in March 2003)

HOUSE OF 1XXX CORPSES, the first trailer made, when it was still a Universal film

it had 4 or 5 or sumptin grave diggers digging a grave, n we heard police sirens, and it had some words like "in 1973 something happened..." and than at the dn we see that fucked up dude n he goes "the boggyman is real" and thats the end!!

i have been fucking waiting for that moevie for so long!! March cant get here quick enough!!

also that Unbreakable trailer was very kik ass! same as the teaser T3

but Pearl Harbor made me wanna see that movie SOOO bad, it was the music and everything, and i am in the minority i guess, cuz i got a good movie out of it, granted the love story felt like Titanic 2, but none the less, i fuckin love Pearl Harbor.. the action is so gr8!


and yes i feel what u all r sayin about ruining movies in trailers... gr8 example is BAIT... looked funny as hell.. turned out to be pure shit!

Raena
01-04-2003, 11:35 AM
And that one flick with Ashley Judd---Double Jeopardy---Leave SOME surprises for the audience please!


I can't stand that chit.

QUENTIN
01-04-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Raena
And that one flick with Ashley Judd---Double Jeopardy---Leave SOME surprises for the audience please!


I can't stand that chit.


That was awful, just as bad is the trailer for the recent Al Pacino/Colin Farrell movie The Recruit. It gives away pretty much every major scene from beginning to end and worst of all makes it's final twist really obvious. $10 and my left nut says **SPOILERS** Al Pacino is really the bad one, the girl he meets is working with the CIA and is trying to bring in Farrell because he's working for Pacino...**SPOILERS END** I now have pretty much no interest in a movie that otherwise I'd want to see, bad advertising can really kill a picture.

A.J. Hakari
01-05-2003, 01:23 AM
A recent and prime example of the trailer showing you everything but the ending credits: SWIMFAN. Still, even without the ads giving away every damn thing, anyone who's seen PLAY MISTY FOR ME or FATAL ATTRACTION can put things together themselves.

ToasT
01-07-2003, 11:33 PM
I'd have to agree with you on that Mr. Hakari, I knew what Swimfan would be If I eve got the chance to see the film... which will never happen. For some reason my younger brother wanted to see it. Maybe for the girl, who knows.



Because I can't stand movie trailers or reviews of movies that are placed in papers, I try not to reveal any kind of information about the movie before I see it. Which means no reviews until after I see it. I change the channel on Television if an ad comes on for a movie I want to see or if an actor on a talk show is revealing to much of the movie. Such as what happened with Edward Norton on Jay Leno, he mentioned something that happened on the set of 25th hour which had a significant connection with the film's ending. I walked out the room when it was on but my mother, who was watching at the time, continued to see it. So when it came time to go to see 25th hour, the ending was ruined for her but I was satisfied.

I like to be completely surprised when it comes to something I really want to see or read. I haven't seen Pulp Fiction until this past year and i've always wanted to but never had the time. So for about the time the movie came out (I forget when) till 2002, I avoided anything related to the movie if not the movie itself. And last year I was surprised and satisfied with what I got. Kudos to Tarantino and kudos to my will.

Lardarz
01-08-2003, 02:22 AM
Surely the point of trailers is to make the film look good?

What happened with 'Signs' then? A 30 sec trailer made a cool film look like a pile of pants!

ToasT
01-08-2003, 03:42 PM
I never saw the signs trailer, closed my eyes so it couldn't ruin it for me.