HALLOWEEN MORON
12-22-2002, 07:01 PM
TELL ME YOURS!!!!!!!!! I'LL TELL YOU MINE LATER.... I'M EATING
Duke Nukem
12-22-2002, 08:02 PM
Halloween scripts? I don't have a script of this, but I have an idea for ninth "Halloween" film that could possibly satisfy the fans/nonfans/mainstream critics, end the series right, possibly kill off Michael Myers right, and tie up the series' loose ends. I can't say it completely makes sense, in fact there's a not-mentioned loose end I've recently discovered that might be uncorrectable and might make could dismiss the my coplete idea, but here it goes:
Halloween 9
Basic Plot: Directly following "Halloween: Resurrection," Michael Myers, having survived an electricution and burning in the garage of the Myers' house, escapes from the hospital/morgue, and goes home, which no one dares to go near for about a year. That next year, someone goes to his house for a rematch: John Strode. John feels sad and guilty about his mother's death (from "Halloween: Resurrection"), especially since he realizes that she had held in a great burden she told no one, not even him: She had a daughter, Jamie Lloyd. She had her after "Halloween II" and feeling scared for their safety, she gave Jamie to another family, and decided to fake her own death, thus gaining a new identity and having him (John). John feels determined to stop Michael, or his Uncle, once and for all. He is not alone. He has the help of Tommy Doyle, who was tormented by Michael in the original "Halloween" as a child and confronted years later him in "Halloween (6): The Curse of Michael Myers." Since that sixth entry, he has been taking care of Jamie Lloyd's baby boy, who he named Stephen (who's now about 7 years old).
Plot Options
1) Kara Strode, the heroine from "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" returns. She could return to help John and Tommy, but that could be too much of a "main cast." It could be a good idea to have Michael to kill her off in the beginning of the film or early on. If killed in the beginning, it could be used as an opening shock sequence to get the film revved up. This could be bring Tommy and John together to stop Michael.
2) Sara, the heroine from "Halloween: Resurrection" returns. Seeing how this possible "Halloween" entry follows "Halloween: Resurrection," the film could begin with Michael escaping from the hospital/morgue where he awakens. Now, Sara and Freddie both could be there, had they been injured enough. Michael kills Freddie, and tries to kill Sara, but she escapes, but not before injuring Michael, leaving him to go back home and heal. This also could be used as an opening shock sequence to get the film revved up. She might want to help Tommy and John in their search of Michael Myers.
3) Stephen could be taken care of by a friend of Tommy's, while Tommy and John go on stop Michael. Michael finds out where Stephen is, though, leaving Tommy and John to beat Michael to the chase.
4) Michael Myers playing mindgames with John and Tommy. Early on in the film, Michael could catch on to John and Tommy following him around or watching him, or keeping watch at the Myers' house, so he could pull some tricks on them, thus killing innocent miscelanious people. We could have John and Tommy waiting for Michael to come and when they at least expect it, he does, thus creating some suspenseful and scary moments. Heck, John and Tommy could figure out some of his tricks, and surprise him.
The "Halloween" Plotholes and corrections
Since the "Halloween: H20," the series has had plotholes that have divided it into two different directions: a) Entries 1,2,7, and 8, with Michael after his sister Laurie, and his nephew, John, and b) Entries 4, 5, and 6 With Michael after his niece, thorn symbol mythology. Here's how I intend to correct them:
1) In "Halloween: H20," Laurie Strode spills her guts out to a teacher about her past and who she really is. She neglects to mention that she had Jamie. Now, this move interprets that "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" (as well as entries 4 and 5), didn't exist. What if Laurie felt so terribly guiltly about her neglectance of Jamie that she always kept it to herself? After all, she got rid of Jamie when she was (assumingly) just a child and now, she would never get a chance to know her. Also, this helps explain why she is so freaked out in "H20" (other than that she was scared that Michael would find her). Also, she could've forgotten to mention it, because she just realized that her son, John, on Halloween, was 17 years old (She and her late-older sister were the same age when Michael originally went after them).
2) In "Halloween: Resurrection," the insane clown guy inadverdantly informs the audience that basically, Michael disappeared between "Halloween II" and "Halloween: H20," again interpreting that "Halloween" entries 4, 5, and 6, didn't exist. What if the man in black covered up for him all that time? The man in black was the doctor from the sanitarium, and he helped Michael escape from the sanitarium in the first place, so what if through Michael's misadventures of entries 4, 5,and 6 (where the man in black is killed off), he stole any of Michael's files, so that authority figures would be unaware of Michael's where abouts? It doesn't make that much sense, but if it could help.
3) The Myers' house. In the original "Halloween," the Myer's house is kind of small, in "Halloween 5," it is a bit of a mansion, and in "Halloween: Resurrection," it is kind of small, again. This is not excusable. Different houses were used in some entries, and it is obvious. However, the series has dealt with it, so that is acceptable. On the other hand, in "Halloween: Resurrection," it is stated that no one has lived in the Myer's house since the original "Halloween." Again, another move that interprets that the entries 4, 5, and 6 don't exist! Obviously criss-crossing with "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers," one thing is for sure: it was never clear how long the "other" Strodes lived in the Myers' house. Heck, they could have lived there for a short time. Unfortunately, that cannot interpret that their short stay just passed by the Haddonfield community. The Strode kids didn't even know they lived there in the Myers' house until some other kids in the neighborhood, told them, so it's not like no one knew that people lived in the Myers' house after Michael first attacked at age 6. It could be said that their stay was short and that deaths of the parents hit the community so hard, everyone tried to forget it. This would also explain the dusty furniture in "Halloween: Resurrection": Chances are, the furniture from the "other" Strodes could've been left there, thus staying there for seven years up to "Halloween: Resurrection." And as for that room underneath the basement: That could've always been there; it was just avoided. Michael could have been there between entries 6 and 7 and 7 and 8. Again, this doesn't make that much sense, but it helps.
Now, getting these point across won't be easy. We could have a narration during the opening credits (like "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers"), or news paper clippings explaining them (like "Halloween: H20") but both of those ideas could be cliche. It might make these points throughout the film as we deal characters from the torn directions or something. Heck, Tommy might have it figured out for the audience, just as he figured out Michael's thorn symbol mythology in "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers."
Other Ideas
1) With possibly more "main characters" than before, this entry could be the entry where even they are at stake of Michael's evil. With at least John and Tommy here, I could see one of them being killed off by Michael, most likely in a deadly confrontation with him at the end. Heck, even Stephen (Jamie and Michael's kid) could help create some tense scenes, considering that Michael was trying to kill him in "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers," and most likely still would.
2) Of course, there will be miscelanious people here and there for a slaughterhouse, but there better not be too many. This "Halloween" entry should try to focus more on suspense and scares, much like the original did. Some shocking kills can be useful, even with gore, but not like a gorefest.
3) Now, I don't want it to make it seem that I'm copying off the "Voorhees-mythology" from "Jason Goes To Hell," but what if the only way kill Michael is if his own son kills him? Think about it. Michael is the boogeyman; pure evil. Essentially, Stephen is of Michael's blood, so what if only he can kill him? Could there be a way of doing this, but without it being some mystical bullshit? (this could also be interpreted that Stephen could be the next "Michael Myers," but that would be bullshit.)
Synopsis
Well, here is the framework of a possible "Halloween 9." What do you think? Have any ideas to build upon it?
screamking2k
12-22-2002, 09:12 PM
Duke Neukom
There's also one more plot hole to deal with ,
In halloween 4 (1988) Jamie was nine years old which means she was born in 1979. Where as in Halloween H20 (1998) John was 17 meaning he was born in 1981 though in Halloween 4 Jamie states that her mother was killed 11 months ago. (1987) which would mean that john was alive with his mother the same time Jamie was so he would have to know that she exsist.
Duke Nukem
12-22-2002, 09:22 PM
That's the not-mentioned loose end I mentioned before. I recently bought "halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers" on DVD (after thinking of that idea), and having not seen it in a while, I realized and came upon that other loose end. This idea is my vision of a ninth "Halloween" entry, and I've even went to the trouble of e-mailing to Arrow in The Head, who liked it and has conveniently sent it to Moustapha Akkad. This is revelation to me. This other loose end totally dismisses my vision of "Halloween 9," unless there's a possible explanation for that, too. Can you or anyone think of any possible explanation? If so, I would like to hear.
screamking2k
12-22-2002, 11:06 PM
well you could just completely ignore it like they did in the last 2 HEHE
HalloweenShape31
12-23-2002, 01:29 AM
I have two on www.myersmuseum.com
Mine are HALLOWEEN: THE EVIL OF MICHAEL MYERS and FRIDAY THE 31ST which was a treatment for a screenplay that I am yet to write.
Fettdog
12-23-2002, 03:09 AM
Moving this one to General Horror Talk.
Note to new Schmoes - please try and post threads in the correct forums - it makes our live sooooo much easier! :) Thanks!
Luke-Abbott
12-23-2002, 08:12 AM
I was writing a fan script of my vision of what NOES7 would be if New Nightmare hadn't of been made. But I haven't touched it in a while lately. I posted the plot of it ages ago on this board I think: "General Horror talk". I also had an idea for an Evil Dead 4 script set after the apocalypse ending from Army of darkness.
Boogeyman
12-23-2002, 05:55 PM
Ive written a few but I'm really concentrated on one right now. The title is Halloween: All Hallow's Eve
later
Rod Silverling
12-23-2002, 10:43 PM
OK.
Did someone OTHER than Duke Nukem sent his script,or at least have talked about it with either the cast/crew of the Halloween movies or with Dimension Films?
Duke Nukem
12-23-2002, 10:56 PM
Give me a break. I had figured out an idea for ninth "Halloween" film, that I think, could end (or continue...you never know), the series right, and tie up the loose ends of the series. I sent it to Arrow in the Head. He liked and asked if he could send to Moustapha Akkad. Now, I think my idea could work and actually getting it into the filmmakers hands sounds great. If they take it, we could have a pretty good, scary, and possibly superior "Halloween" film to, at least, most of the series. This happened a couple weeks ago. I just discovered this thread. I have not got a response from Arrow in the Head, about whether or not, the filmmakers have accepted it (it may take some time), but I'm hoping they do.
Boogeyman
12-26-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Rod Silverling
OK.
Did someone OTHER than Duke Nukem sent his script,or at least have talked about it with either the cast/crew of the Halloween movies or with Dimension Films?
As soon as I get done with my script, Im going to copyright it and send it to Moustapha Akkad. I know a "writing agent" who could get it to him for me. So, We'll see what Mr. Akkad says about my script when Im done.
later
radiofreememory
01-02-2003, 08:10 AM
Sorry to break the news to you. But they won't read your scripts. They are established copyrighted characters. There is no way they are going to read your scripts.
But you can always keep dreaming.....
Boogeyman
01-03-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by radiofreememory
Sorry to break the news to you. But they won't read your scripts. They are established copyrighted characters. There is no way they are going to read your scripts.
But you can always keep dreaming.....
So, you're telling me...if I get it copywritten, have a writing agent, and send it to Dimension and Moustapha Akkad...they woudl refuse my script... why exactly? Because they're established copyrighted characters? Just wondering, because they probably wouldnt get too many scripts if they didnt accept any.
later
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