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cereal killer

05-06-2002, 04:32 PM

I for one thought it was a good movie that merited the Halloween name. Tom Atkins did a great job with the material he had, the story for this moive was also a very interesting one i'll admit it did have its flaws but it I liked it so to me that's the bottom line. Remember the Halloween series was originaly supposed to be series that consisted of different scary movies that had no recurring characters, In the end the public out cry for more Michael Myers proved to be to much. So they released the fourth movie which wasn't that bad also.

Razorblade Smile

05-06-2002, 05:27 PM

Where the hell was Michael Myers??
this flick should not be in the Halloween series...

Originally Halloween was never MEANT to be a Michael Myers spotlight of serials. It was orginally designed to be a horror anthology showcasing different things that happen on Halloween. That's why Season of the Witch is out of continuity. But Myers proved to be way too popular, so they decided to keep Halloween as a Myers-based franchise.

I didn't care for the film too much either. Mostly because of that dumb fricking jingle and the motivation behind the villain was really stupid.

thingsgoinon

05-06-2002, 05:36 PM

Ya know I really hated this movie when it first came out cuz it had nothing to do with MM....but when I learned to judge it on it's own terms I really like this flick, I find it very original and creepy.

And as the above poster correctly pointed out, this is the way the series was originally intended to go. There's another of those "what if" Questions http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

stevereno

05-06-2002, 05:42 PM

this movie was crap.crapy ending,crapy story and crapy un likable charaters.

they only scary part in this movie was the old man ass

YIKES

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

mugwart74

05-06-2002, 06:16 PM

heh,once again for the 900th time in my life i have to voice my opinion on halloween 3.this movie is cool even though theres no michael.if this movie wasnt called halloween 3 then probably 80% of the people thats seen it would never have seen it.i can see why they called it halloween 3.not many would have remembered the flick,which means money would not have rolled in the way that it has

A.J. Hakari

05-06-2002, 06:55 PM

I'm with Jewbo; shouldn't have been called a HALLOWEEN movie at all, but in its own right, it provides enough cheesy, out-there entertainment on its own.

"Four more days till Halloween...Halloween, Halloween..." http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

jtguy7908

05-06-2002, 08:36 PM

Hi Emilio22,
I couldn't agree with you more. "Halloween III: Season of the Witch" is pretty awful. But it's one of those movies that's so bad it's good. It's a cult classic. So it's still worth a rent.

- jtguy7908

Razorblade Smile

05-07-2002, 09:09 AM

I think the real reason I didn't like it was because it had robots in it. Once you blend robots and evil satanic cults together...you KNOW its all going to go downhill from there.

Jason Voorhees

05-07-2002, 12:54 PM

lol Razor. Personally I just hated it, It was perhaps the most boring film I have ever say. The films leadenness left me Moribund.. or in others words in a comatic state which I did not recover from until Selective Amnesia kicked in and began to erase memories of the film from my mind... but all thats just my opinion.

Bloodybitch13

05-07-2002, 04:27 PM

Okay.If it shouldn't have been called Haloween3 what should have it been called?

Masks?

teenkiller

05-07-2002, 04:32 PM

How bout Night of the Masks? Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

stevereno

05-07-2002, 05:43 PM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bloodybitch13:
Okay.If it shouldn't have been called Haloween3 what should have it been called?

Masks?</font>

more like "the cheaply made dollar store masks from hell"

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

The Claw

07-04-2002, 12:22 AM

I am bumping up this topic, because, well, I LIKE HALLOWEEN 3, yes, ive said it, i like it, no one can change my opinion on it, i will alwyas like it, until i decide i dont, if that makes sense, it had an original idea, and whats with people calling this boring, jeez, ive seen boringer movies, Cough CHRISTMAS EVIL COUGH, but i still think halloween 3 is a great movie, as for an different title, how about SILVER SHAMROCK, that evil company, OR something, i know my title idea blows, but its like 2 in the morning so, im pretty tired. but HALLOWEEN 3 RULES.

Candyman666

07-04-2002, 12:59 AM

The backlash against Halloween 3 wouldn't be as severe if they wouldn't have attached the Halloween name to it. I kno it was a marketing decision, but it pissed off more people than anything. The key is to just watch it as a stand alone film. It still sucks, but if you have no expectations, you won't be as dissapointed.

DeadByDawn

07-04-2002, 05:55 AM

The score was great (by John Carpenter). Could anyone at least agree with this?

Linus*likes*noise

07-04-2002, 07:52 AM

I love this movie(Waaaaaay beter than H20, H5) and I would love to write alot about how much I love it and why it is so great but you shmoes don't listen to me and it would be a waste of time.

Now off to the Aliens Spoof room...

Happy Happy HalloweeN, Silver Shamrock!

Killer Klown#3

07-04-2002, 11:28 AM

This is my second favorite movie out of the whole Halloween series.I really liked the plot and I can watch this movie over and over.

JustOneFix

07-04-2002, 01:54 PM

Halloween 3 is an insanely unique movie, it blends the occult and the sci-fi like no other movie does. If you didn't like this movie, I recommend that you watch it again; it will grow on you over time. Trust me. How about them cyborgs? Mind you, H3 came out when The Terminator was still in pre-production. I honestly don't undestand why anyone would want to strip H3 of its Halloween status-it's an important part of the legacy and even a window into the origins of Michael Myers which are revealed in H6. Definitely my second favourite after H5. 10/10

Cushing

07-06-2002, 11:39 AM

Halloween 3 Season Of The Witch is a good little movie more akin to Quatermass than Michael Myres but , as has already been pointed out ,it was intended as one of a series of stories set around Halloween . When the box office takings were low this idea was abandoned and Michael was brought back.
If viewed as a movie in its own right I think it stands up today . At least it was a valid attempt at something different even if it did'nt quite pay off.

Requiem-for-a-Dream

07-06-2002, 01:38 PM

I love Halloween 3. I don't really know why but I do. I found it creepy, unique and gory. I really hope we get an anamorphic DVD release for this underrated flick.

Matt

Jason

07-06-2002, 06:18 PM

I enjoyed this movie tons. Take this movie as if it were JUST entitled "Season of the Witch" then you would enjoy this movie more. It really isn't half bad once you get over the fact that Michael Myers was taking a bathroom break when this one was being produced.

CeMeTaRy_GaTeS

07-08-2002, 10:21 AM

Halloween 3 wasn't too bad, if you forget the fact it has no Myers, Loomis or Laurie.

If it were called Season of the Witch without the name Halloween in front of it I may have liked it. But since the name Halloween has been put in front of it I was mad because of the studios urge to cash in and try to collect more fans of the franchise.

The key word in sequel is sequence, so if it is advertised as a sequal to Halloween and Halloween 2, if beter continue the sequence of events that happens to the charachters in the previous movies.

TheKingOfMasks

01-24-2004, 04:41 PM

This may sound like a silly question, but were the sweet old little red-haired ladies selling the masks at the factory, 'in' on the whole 'let's mass-murder all the kids' thing? They all clapped when Mr Cochran said that the guy's order of halloween masks would be paid for, courtesy of Silver Shamrock.

The song was catchy though, you have to admit that.

Other than that, the only laugh I got was when that woman looks at that badge with the microchip on it and gets a laserbeam through her mouth. Then afterwards, her face and eyes have been split open.

John Carpenter must have been kicking himself for giving Tom Atkins the lead role, after playing bit supporting roles in his past films like "The Fog".

KillerKlown

01-24-2004, 08:25 PM

I loved this film! I don't think it should have been entered into the Halloween series, though.

Cronos

01-24-2004, 09:22 PM

i love halloween 3, it was a lot of fun, the acting was good and the story was great, i spose part of the reason i like it is that it doesnt contain Myers, and has a different story, something the series was originally meant to do and it works

!MorganOnyx!

01-26-2004, 05:56 AM

LOVE this movie. One of my guilty pleasures. It has the balls to pull off something that horror flicks are too scared to these days (an evil toy makers plot to kill all children). The fact it involves the idea of the demise of children is pure evil and i grasped the concept with both hands! (Not that I hate kids or anything). The ending I truly believe, is one of THE BEST ENDINGS is horror movie history. And the score by CARPENTER is almost as effective as his original HALLOWEEN theme! It's just got that great, kinda cheesy but definately eerie feel that alot of the 80's horrors movie have. That's why I love the 80's. They don't make them like they used to do they?!!!

TheKingOfMasks

01-26-2004, 10:27 AM

So true. Horror movies don't usually show death scenes involving little children, but there's a truly cool scene in this movie where a little boy/brat 'test tries' a Halloween mask while watching that flashing pumpkin on the television.

Great scene.

Les Diaboliques

01-27-2004, 11:12 AM

I bought this movie for £1 on DVD but havent got round to watching it yet. I always thought the premise sounded interesting, but it shouldnt have been in the Halloween series, it should have been released completely independently, dont you think?

ERIN_LoJ

01-27-2004, 04:38 PM

I didn't see anything too bad with this one either. I thought there were some chilling moments and the end was morbid enough for my tastes. Good beginning too

killuminati003

02-01-2004, 10:09 PM

i bought this movie ...and i liked it.....not good enough to keep....but i did like it .......in fact the only thing i did not like was the fact that it was a halloween movie with no myers.....

!MorganOnyx!

02-02-2004, 11:14 AM

I read in an article somewhere recently (think it was compiled by the readers of UK movie mag EMPIRE) that it's in the TOP TEN WORST FILMS OF ALL TIME! I remember seeing THE AVENGERS in there too.

!MorganOnyx!

02-02-2004, 11:28 AM

What I meant to say before was it seems this movie just has a bad reputation with movie lovers in general. Fans of the HORROR genre don't seem to disregard it as pure crap as easily as others do. Sure, there are still a lot of you guys who don't like it, but I've read enough positive comments over the years to think it's one of those unlucky films that gets shitted on unfairly because it wasn't an 'official' HALLOWEEN sequel. Fair comment?

!MorganOnyx!

02-02-2004, 11:34 AM

Just found it. It was on the IMDB and it was Nov 2003, 'The Top Ten Turkeys Of All Time'! List compiled from 1.2 million voters on the Yahoo!My movies website.

Amongst the others were BATTLEFIELD EARTH (came first!). GIGLI, GLITTER and FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY.

If any of you think this movie deserves to be mentioned in even the same breath let me know!! I can't believe how harsh that is!!!!

Cronos

02-02-2004, 12:18 PM

:mad:

thats not fair, ive seen hundreds of films worse than this

it seems that the only reason people hate it is because Myers isnt in it walking around killing people in boring stupid ways

Nekroman

02-02-2004, 01:28 PM

You know, I have a love/ hate relationship with this movie. I hate it primarily because it skews the historical significance of Halloween and makes it sound like an evil holiday, even going as far as pronouncing it "Sam- Hane" which always makes me shudder like fingers on a chalkboard. So in the respect of it having the facts straight it flunks out. But then again, it has a childish charm about it. Something very kindergarden. And I admit it does have atmosphere. And let me point out something else. While Michael Myers is not the focus of this movie, that doesn't mean he isn't technically in it. In one scene, Tom Atkins' character is in a bar and a commercial for the original Halloween movie comes on the TV with Michael Myers going down a flight of stairs.

ERIN_LoJ

02-02-2004, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Cronos
:mad:

thats not fair, ive seen hundreds of films worse than this

it seems that the only reason people hate it is because Myers isnt in it walking around killing people in boring stupid ways

Exactly.

I mean, sure a person can hate the film. It is slow and sometimes boring or stiff. But come on, out of horror-hell there are warehouses full of horrid productions. A film being born IS a sin and an excuse to string the director up for some torching fun, but a top ten hated film?!?! Out of all the other horror out there!?

Unfortunitely most people that vote at these sites are most likely not into horror all that much and just vote on what they know. Doesnt give a fair rating

!MorganOnyx!

02-03-2004, 05:33 AM

Good points dudes. Exactly how I feel about that poxy top ten list. What do they know?!! Granted, the other films they mentioned sucked, but I can think of hundreds of worse films than SEASON OF THE WITCH - horror genre, any genre!!

Just one example - RETRO PUPPET MASTER

Still can't get my head around how that one managed to get funded!!!

TheKingOfMasks

07-02-2004, 11:57 PM

One thing I never did figure out was whether the cute little red-haired old ladies selling the masks at the factory were "in on it" with Mr Cochran.

Surely they couldn't have been evil? Or could they?

Seeing as they only appeared in that one scene where they all applauded Mr Cochran for giving that guy a free order of masks "on the house"... then they were never to be seen again!

I was hoping that they'd resurface in the factory scene with the rock from stonehenge like little oompa loompas doing their evil biddings.

adamjohnson

07-03-2004, 03:19 AM

This movie kicks ass! I mean I didnt like it at first because I was jipped into thinking that Myers was in it. Everyone was! But it was indeed VERY cool.

With possibly the best ending ever in a low-budget, horror film with Witch in the title about evil masks made from pieces of stonehenge and that guy has to stop them or bugs will come out of their heads and eat them and he's yelling but the TV wont go off and then it just ends!

:D

Kidsilk

07-03-2004, 02:10 PM

It's a decent flick. I think it would be better received if it didn't say "Halloween III" on the box.

drdash

07-03-2004, 09:54 PM

i feel this is an underrated gem. it has great gore sequences, very creepy and a great performance by dna o'halloran.

ciao
drdash

the dead one

07-04-2004, 01:26 AM

Ive heard these arguments before...Seems no matter what there will always be those who hate this flick...the best way to look at it is this...It was an entirely different film! Deal with it already folks, why beat a dead horse?...I like the film for what it was, plus I am a big fan of anything that features Tom Atkins!!!

Halloween 3 is much too much maligned...I think that there are quite a few of you out there, who cant admit on some significant level that you actually like it...fess up already, you'll feel better.

ParileseMonster

07-04-2004, 12:48 PM

I have always liked this movie and I have never dissed it, there is nothing to diss. I saw this movie when it first came out and I knew it had nothing to do with Michael before hand. I know that Carpenter wanted to make a different Halloween movie every year which meant a different horror story that would be released every year around Halloween. I thought that was a kick ass idea and I really wonder what he would have brought to us every year only if some people would have accepted this and not have made such a damn big deal about Michael Myers. So instead of having an original scary story every year we got all these fucking Halloween Michael Myers sequels which are shitty as hell! Oh if only Time Travel were possible! Where the hell is
Dean Stockwell, I need to make a Quantum Leap!

teenkiller

10-14-2007, 06:37 PM

I rewatched this again today and still feel it holds up. As a kid I never liked this movie because of Myers' absence but when I got older and bought the film on dvd to give it another chance I actually thought it was pretty cool.

It has an interesting and mysterious plot. Atkins plays a good lead and the story about Colonal Cochran wanting to make masks that will kill all the children on Halloween is a pretty gutsy one. They had to have known that people would have sensitivities towards a film which depicts the slaughter of an entire nation full of innocent children. Why does Cochran even want to kill them? Who knows? The lack of explanation doesn't really bother me.

Tommy Lee Wallace and whoever his production crew were also did an excellent job with the settings. I liked the creepy town where something is obviously amiss. More than that though I really liked the factory showdown. Good finale piece.

Jamie Lee Curtis even continued her involvement with the series as she provided the voice of the operator on the phone. Though I believe she was uncredited I could recognize her manly voice anywhere.

I think people just need to cut the film some slack. It can be a tad slow which I think is really it's major fault... NOT the absence of Michael Myers or any connection with the rest of the series. Hell I still prefer this over Revenge, Curse, H20, Resurrection and possibly even the remake.

Halloween 3: Season of the Witch - 8/10

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

KillerKlown

10-14-2007, 07:36 PM

Its good to see some love for this film, as more often than not it gets shat on by the Myers fans without even giving it a chance.

mattmanw54301

10-14-2007, 09:51 PM

I gave it a shot the other day, and was pleasantly surprised. If you KNOW there isn't any Michael in it, and judge it on its own merits, it is a pretty solid little creepy movie. I dug it.

teenkiller

10-14-2007, 10:02 PM

Its good to see some love for this film, as more often than not it gets shat on by the Myers fans without even giving it a chance.

Tell me about it. I was surprised when reading through this thread, just before bumping it, at how many people had actually posted positive comments. I guess even the red headed bastard stepchild is finally getting some love. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

starcat

10-14-2007, 11:06 PM

i too believe this movie is a solid movie, and did not get its due in its time because of the whole michael thing... but one has too wonder... if it were not called halloween III, would we still talk about it today, or would it have slipped through the movie cracks. so maybe the title killed it in the beginning, but made it a household name in the long run.

teenkiller

10-14-2007, 11:27 PM

I think it would still be remembered. By us fans obviously, not by the mainstream. If for nothing other than the fact that it stars Tom Atkins and we know how everyone around here LOVES him. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

yorrick brown

10-15-2007, 12:04 AM

whats the ending in the novel based on this,i heard it was different?.

also was ellie always a robot

JJFlamingo

10-15-2007, 12:38 AM

whats the ending in the novel based on this,i heard it was different?.

also was ellie always a robot

The ending of the novel clarifies what's implied in the movie, and it is NOT a happy one...

No, there was some downtime while Ellie was separated from Atkins while the film stayed with him, and THAT'S where I think the ol switcheroo took place.

Will view it later this month...

Inglorious

10-15-2007, 02:04 AM

This battle will go on forever. The fight for Halloween III: Season Of The Witch.

!MorganOnyx!

10-15-2007, 05:15 PM

RULES FUCKING ASSES!

ALL YOU HATERS, GET OFF IT'S DICK!!!! :D

KillerKlown

10-15-2007, 06:12 PM

Wow, I didn't even know it was based on a novel.

Cop No. 633

10-15-2007, 07:18 PM

Tom Atkins is the fucking man in this film. He bangs everything that moves!

I loved Halloween 3 for all the cheese it had to spare. I saw it baked out of my mind and I thought it was great. This is certainly better than most of the Michael Myers sequels...

I love the scene where the laser fries that lady's mouth. It was sick and awesome to look at.

Only negative fault I'd give this movie: NO nudity from Ellie's character. God, she was hot and banging, but they didn't show anything. That'd be the only down side for me.

Also... Cochran pronounced Samhain correctly. Pleasence didn't in Halloween 2, but they clarified it with this film and Cochran says it "sow-win" like it's supposed to sound.

teenkiller

10-15-2007, 10:28 PM

Wow, I didn't even know it was based on a novel.

That makes TWO of us! What the hell? Surely I would have heard of such a thing by now. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

JJFlamingo

10-16-2007, 12:17 AM

NOT TRUE. The book was merely a novelization of the movie's script, and released around the same time...

DeaditeDerik

10-25-2007, 08:27 PM

I love this movie. I don't give a shit that it doesn't have Myers in it.

To be honest, the first 2 halloweens were good but 4 and onwards were shit.

I'm really glad they went a different way with this one.

And really, how many opinions would be different if it didn't have the Halloween title?

Section 13

10-27-2007, 06:53 PM

I managed to avoid this movie for a reallll long time (All bad reviews + no Shape = straight to part 4) before breaking down last summer and picking up a VHS copy of it. To be honest I think the only reason people still talk about this movie is because "Halloween" is in the title. I mean yes, the one mask kill is pretty sweet (love it when a director has the balls to kill child characters) and it had "The Old Man" as the villan but other than that...meh. It really didn't feel like anything too special. The one thing I will give this movie is that it wasn't as bad for the franchise as well...I guess everything after part 4 minus the producer's cut of 6.

That and the antagonist didn't cry...

Dragula

10-27-2007, 07:57 PM

Oh god, Halloween III was awful.

teenkiller

10-27-2007, 08:04 PM

That and the antagonist didn't cry...

I told my brother about that scene a few days ago. Then the other day H5 was on tv and I happened to tune into that scene and he couldn't believe it. I like the fifth one in a crappy sort of way but I do prefer Witch over it. Sure it gets kind of boring but at least I find it to be a more interesting story. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.