Why people dont like A Nightmare on elm Street 5

[Norman Bates]

In my opinion after the third installment, the series was very repetive to me.(except part 7) i mean the Halloweens are always different(not always in a good way) but thy're different.

Freddy was never scary to me(except part 1) and he is a complete idiot. I like his movies( some of them anyway) but hes shitty and so is ANOES 5!

[psycho-man_666]

I like the dream child but I know a lot of people doesn't. And just like you said Freddy is not scary. Except in the first one of course.

But what about the Halloween being different. I mean if there's a series out there who always bring out the same thing don't look further you have it. Well that and Friday the 13th series.

[BettyLouisePlotnick]

I personally don't really mind this installment that much. The sequel I most dislike is 2... I think one of the reasons it wasn't well received was that it was rushed. It came out like a year after Dream Master. People weren't clamouring for more yet, and they pumped out another. Too much too quick is always a certified failure.

And about that whole ' Halloween's are always different' comment you made... they are all the same. Most horror movies sequels are the same, (notice I said most, not all ) In all the Halloween sequels the basic plot is the same with different characters. Micheal stalks family member, kills all that gets in way of family member. What's different there? Aside from Halloween 3 ofcourse.

[Norman Bates]

To see the diifferences, go to Why dont people like Halloween 5.

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Come on NORMAN, the specifics of the situation may be different (and more ridiculous), but the bottom line is that Michael dissappears at the end of H5, which is something the ol' boys been known to do before. Wiping out the entire police force? Check out HALLOWEEN 4, and THE TERMINATOR before that. H5 was about as original as H6, and nearly as brain dead. I can accept that, but it was f*cking boring too, as is NIGHTMARE 5, and just about any other 5 you could mention....

[AntonioDelLago]

NIGHTMARE 5 wasn't the best of the ELM STREET sequels (for that honor, check out DREAM WARRIORS or A NEW NIGHTMARE), but it was more imaginative than the fifth installments of FRIDAY THE 13TH and HALLOWEEN. At least the filmmakers of this franchise tried to take the slasher genre into supernatural territory, and created an interesting villain in Freddy. Although DREAM CHILD is a continuation of DREAM MASTER, it still isn't a bad film. The baby woes of heroine Alice (played winningly again by Lisa Wilcox) was far more interesting than FRIDAY 5's loony farm/Jason poser; and much better than the mean-spirited HALLOWEEN 5.

[This message has been edited by AntonioDelLago (edited 05-31-2001).]

[teenkiller]

Characters in this movie with the exception of Alice and Mark were pretty one dimensional and boring but I still like this movie. It has many faults but I still find it enjoyable. If only Freddy wasn't cracking so many jokes... Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[spacemonkey]

Dont know why people hate this one so much...I like a lot. It gives a lot of insight into freddys past. You know that whole scene in the looney bin was preatty insightful dont you think? And the special effects are excellent..and on the plus side its vusually very interesting. Why people hate it beats the hell out of me. Wanna hate a nightmare installment? Hate and loath part two. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Scully1888]

If you're stating the all Halloween movies are different because of different characters and different scenarios, then all Nightmare On Elm Street movies were different too.

NOES - Nancy is plagued in her dreams by Freddy.
NOES 2 - Jesse moves into Nancy's old house and Freddy starts taking control of his body, eventually ending up in the real world for a brief time.
NOES 3 - Nancy comes to a psychiatric ward to help a group of teens battle Freddy using their dream powers.
NOES 4 - Freddy is using Alice's power (given to her by Kristen) to pull in other childrens' souls that are unrelated to the first set of Elm Street children. As each new child dies, Alice gains their power.
NOES 5 - Alice is pregnant, and Freddy starts invading the dreams of her unborn child.
NOES 6 - Freddy brings his daughter to Elm Street so he can escape Elm Street's constraints and unleash himself on the rest of the world. 3D ending.
NOES 7 - Freddy arrives in the real world, and Heather Lagenkamp (with the help of Wes Craven) must stop him before he kills her son.

So they're not exactly similar. If anything, the Halloween movies are more similar than the NOES ones are.

HALLOWEEN - Myers goes to Haddonfield and kills a lot of people, then chases Laurie.
HALLOWEEN 2 - Myers follows Laurie to the hospital, kills people then chases Laurie.
HALLOWEEN 3 - N/A.
HALLOWEEN 4 - Myers comes back to Haddonfield, kills a lot of people then chases Jamie.
HALLOWEEN 5 - Myers kills a lot of people, then chases Jamie who is in a hospital.
HALLOWEEN 6 - (Genuinely "different") Some Thorn cult bullshite.
HALLOWEEN H20 - Myers comes back to Haddonfield, kills people then chases Laurie.

[The Claw]

I liked Nightmare 5, in fact i like all of them except for the 2nd one and the 7th one. i just dont know why, but this was like probably the 3rd best.

[XCoRyX]

the story had big potential but they screwed it up.

[Michael_myers]

heck i hated a nightmare on elm street, Wes Craven's New Nightmare wasnt bad, i havent watched either in a while, im goingo to give the nightmare series a hard earned chance at my great series list with
Halloween
Friday the 13th
Alien and
Psycho

[Strodefan822]

I can see most don't here, but I have to agree with the Halloween series having variety. Of course, the plot is repetitive, but stylistically each film looks different than the last, and each brings a new perspective to the original concept (although not always a great one). For example, 5 is a much more european stylized sequel, whereas the original was much more German expressionism, employing chiarscuro lighting. Part 6, oh god, is completely different is style and format than any of them. Michael's drive and story are repetitive, as are the endings, but I have to agree that each installment is independent and stands as its own take on the story.

[BaBy BoY]

I really liked NIGHTMARE 5.
To me, its underated

[Lady Summerisle]

From a female perspective, ANOES 5 is actually about childbirth and the horrors atht accompany it. One, Alice is left without a father for her child with Dan's death.
Two, the terrifying truth that she couyld have a deformed child, which plagues a lot of women.
Three, being a teenage mother.
I think Freddy's invading her childs body was good, and bringing back Amanda added depth. Not a bad entry.
The acting sort of sucked (Erika Anderson, die a bad B-movie actress death.)
I don't hate it, I just sort of find it too cluttered thematically.

[freddy666]

I like ANOES 5 because Freddy goes back more to his darker side

[HalloweenShape31]

I honestly don't hate this one much either, but lets go through the pros and cons:

PROS

We get a little flashback to Freddy's conceiving (Although it's unnecesary)

Freddy is back.

Alice is back.

The lovely Gretta.

The awesome comic book world.

The cool looking bike transformation.

The return to the dark setting.

A cool storyline as to how Freddy's back.

The world of upside down and sideways staircases.

The awesome asylum set.

CONS

Freddy's one liners are all off.

Freddy's make up aint that great. Looks like he hasn't slept in a LOOONG time. I mean what's with the luggage under his eyes!?

A pooy execution of a great story.

Freddy riding on a skateboard.

Mark's turning into that gun blasting idiot.

The early death of Gretta.

Jacob appearing as an eight-year-old kid instead of like two. (What was the two year old too scared?)

Freddy's poor jokes ruin the creepy atmosphere.

"Fuel Injection!" Need I say more?

Well that's PROS: 9 and CONS: 9. I may have missed some, but overall to me, it's a decent flick.

[HalloweenShape31]

Scully1888:

In Halloween H20, Michael doesn't return to Haddonfield, he goes to Langdon, Illinois, before going to Summer Glen, California.

[Scully1888]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HalloweenShape31:
Scully1888:

In Halloween H20, Michael doesn't return to Haddonfield, he goes to Langdon, Illinois, before going to Summer Glen, California. </font>

Good point. But still, he DOES chase Laurie again.

[Jason Voorhees]

I don't think it's all that bad. Sure It's not a classic but its decent for what it is (Noes 5 I mean).

[stevereno]

the 5th installment usually sucks(halloween,F13) i felt it was rushed but i did laugh every time freddy added BITCH to one of his one liners

"we'll see BITCH,we'll see"
BON APPATEET...........BITCH"

LAUGH

SHIVER ME TIMBERS.........BITCH

[HalloweenShape31]

Well, the Nightmare franchise made the same mistake the Halloween franchise did. Both on the same year. They each made a highly successful Part 4 (Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, A Nightmare On Elm Street 4: The Dream Master) in 1988. Then, being drunk with the success of Part 4, they started on a part 5 right off the bat and went about it too fast, causing it to suffer drastically.

[Candyman'sBitch]

All Part 5s suck doo doo Top 6 examples

Friday Part 5 is best for T+A makes up for
the Fake Jason but still "Sucks on major levels"by Jennessa in Jason X lol

Halloween Part 5 Rachel's death was kinda unexpected yet movie was still too long
and got boring.

Nightmare 5 Freddy was so pop he could've
been on tv .

Chainsaw Next Generation (5). Matt Mcoughnahey and Renee two mainstream stars couldnt save this canibal shit from bad acting hell.

Hellraiser Inferno (5) I thought it was a boring episode of Matlock in hell or something

Leprechaun 5 In The Hood ...Didnt think he could get worse than Leppy in Space part 4
but he did. Damn.

[Candyman'sBitch]

Now with my last list I'm sure everybody knows upcoming CHILD OF CHUCKY probably will suck too It will be the Fifth and guess what he'll be like FREDDY having a kid in Part 5 THE DREAM CHILD ...Oh Hell No!!!

[teenkiller]

I liked all those part 5's. I thought Leprechaun in the Hood was funny as shit. No I DON'T miss my span of attention. I do miss my old friend DOLPH. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Jason]

I saw the unrated version and still found this film to be rather boring and an uneventful sequel. Even Freddy's jokes were lame in this one.

[stevereno]

i found part 5 to be ok. not the worst in the series

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

[The Claw]

I agree with steve. parts 4 and 5 were just ok(he said nothing about 4, it's i felt it was just ok) as for worst in the series i'd have to say part 2 is pretty damn shitty.

[Evil Spike]

cuz maybe it sucked.... i dunno. it was too "cartooney".

[stevereno]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Claw:
I agree with steve. parts 4 and 5 were just ok(he said nothing about 4, it's i felt it was just ok) as for worst in the series i'd have to say part 2 is pretty damn shitty.</font>

yeah, i agree on PART 4 it was blah, part 3 is my fave. the worst is part 2 followed by part 6

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

[Linus*likes*noise]

You duders all talk about the curse of part V and how they all suck. Well I am going to disagree and tell all my theory that is very realistic... (by the way I liked Friday V but HalloweenV was the worst horror franchise sequel ever made, next to this one)

CRACK!

See it was 1989 and horror was at the end of its rope and stupid execs had to make year after sequles for three of the biggest franchises, Friday the 13 HalloweeN and NIghtmare on Elm Street.

All those execs got together with the budget money and decided to buy crack(it was rockin' then http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif) instead of hireing good writers and whatnot. So those execs got all messed up on crack and you can see it by viewing these movies that they are under the influence.

In case you don't know which ones I speak of, they are:

HalloweenV
Friday the 13th part VIII

and the topic title.

So my theory is that it was all crack I mean "Bad year, Dan!" what was that all about?!!

Bad shite, its like the cute puppy that was brought up by an abusive owner and that dog turned baaaaaaaaaad.

[bulletproof]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Linus*likes*noise:
You duders all talk about the curse of part V and how they all suck. Well I am going to disagree and tell all my theory that is very realistic... (by the way I liked Friday V but HalloweenV was the worst horror franchise sequel ever made, next to this one)

CRACK!

See it was 1989 and horror was at the end of its rope and stupid execs had to make year after sequles for three of the biggest franchises, Friday the 13 HalloweeN and NIghtmare on Elm Street.

All those execs got together with the budget money and decided to buy crack(it was rockin' then http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif) instead of hireing good writers and whatnot. So those execs got all messed up on crack and you can see it by viewing these movies that they are under the influence.

In case you don't know which ones I speak of, they are:

HalloweenV
Friday the 13th part VIII

and the topic title.

So my theory is that it was all crack I mean "Bad year, Dan!" what was that all about?!!

Bad shite, its like the cute puppy that was brought up by an abusive owner and that dog turned baaaaaaaaaad.</font>

That is so true!Jason.Freddy,and Michael fell flat on their asses that year.

I remember there was to be a showdown between the Fridays and the Nightmare series,but they didn't count on Batman to kick both of they're asses.

I think Nightmare 5 suffered from having 5 diffrent writers on the picture,didn't take time and wait a couple years to make another one.It was all Greed!And it shows.The Previous Nightmare grossed 50 million,and then this one comes out and 22million. The movie made its money back though(it only cost 7.5 mill).There were some good scenes,but it just didn't cut the mustard.
I hated the Dream child!

[The Claw]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by stevereno:
yeah, i agree on PART 4 it was blah, part 3 is my fave. the worst is part 2 followed by part 6

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

</font>

6 rocks ass. i dont know why but i always get a giggle out of NOW IM PLAYING WITH POWER, but i dont think i was supposed to giggle right?

[sleepawaycampfan#1]

i liked this movie for some reason,but freddy in this movie seemed more comical rather than scary. this isn't my favorite, but i still like it.