Why was Halloween 4-6 forgotten?

[foxgate2000]

While we've mentioned it in other posts...does anyone have any clue (other than "they sucked" from you H4-6 haters:P) about why in H20 and Halloween 8 they totaly dismissed Ep. 4-6 the same way we dismiss 3? In H20 it was like Laurie forgot she even had a daughter and you would think that if she was so paranoid about Michael coming after her she would keep in touch with Haddonfield's current news? That she would know her daughter was murdered? After all, she knew enough to try not to get ahold of Dr. Loomis. And sense John knew that he has a serial killer uncle, he would have knowledge of Jaimee Lloyd...especially sense they would have to be close in age.

[gellar2000uk]

Basically they just wanted to carry the story - from Laurie's perpective. You know how she dealt with this and the relationship with her brother. That was why it was HALLOWEEN: H20. The continuing story 20 years later of the original movie - an anniversary movie.

[foxgate2000]

Well, I knew that...but you don't think she would have some perspective on her daughter being butchered by farm machinery?

[gellar2000uk]

Due to the story only following from Halloween 2 - LAURIE NEVER HAD JAMIE. She only had John. Jamie was never born. Part 4-6 only laid out another story to bring Michael back so projected a story of Jamie in there. But in H20 - Laurie NEVER had Jamie so therefore JAMIE DIDN'T DIE due to not being a "real" person in Laurie's life

[foxgate2000]

Has that been officially stated? I mean I value your opinion and appreciate the input, but if that is true..well doesn't that really seem to be kind of disrespectful to the late Donald Pleasance (the actor portraying Dr. Loomis)? I mean he died shortly after 6. To me, in my opinion, saying the swan songs of his character never happened is kind disrespectful. I hope this isn't what Hollywood is saying. Hopefully they will come up with a good explanation soon.

[foxgate2000]

also...it was stated in 4 that Laurie faked her death and also in H20 the same thing was said. I don't know...hopefully 9 will answer this once and for all...

[Moviebuff]

There was a scene in H20 where all the Haddonfield murders would be explained(including the events of Halloween 4-6)but the director or producers took the scene out so it wouldn't confuse new audiences to the series.

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Moviebuff:
There was a scene in H20 where all the Haddonfield murders would be explained(including the events of Halloween 4-6)but the director or producers took the scene out so it wouldn't confuse new audiences to the series.</font>

yes, this was in a very early treatment written. although it was never actually shot.

later

[foxgate2000]

"so it wouldn't confuse new audiences to the series" ??? So like someone new to the series would understand why she faked her death and changed her name to hide from this evil brother of hers, only because they explained it in a few lines?

Thanks for the info everyone!

[Fettdog]

This really belongs in Past Horror Movies now.

[ANTBond007]

In the timeline of H20, 4 - 6 did not happen. This was done due to Jamie Lee Curtis' return and the fact that the 'middle three' films, while not exactly lighting the box office on fire, sent the story into an altogether confusing mess.

And they never say how Laurie died in Halloween 4. We simply get these two lines:

"I know you miss your parents. It hasn't been that long."

"It's been eleven months."

That right there also dispels another fact - Jamie only misses her parents. Surely considering the fact that John and Jamie are the same age, she would remember him too?

Above all else, the decision was made to eliminate their existence for the people who thought Halloween H20 was the first film in the series (y'know - the people who think Resurrection is "Halloween H20, Part II"). The opening credits explained what Laurie did and why she did it - going into an explanation for Jamie would've been confusing for 90% of the audience.

[foxgate2000]

it was in four when Jaimee goes into her room and looks through her box of her mother's things and there is a picture of Laurie and a newspaper article...that's when she first thinks she sees Michael Myers and hides in the closet.

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[adidas12185]

"Why was Halloween 4-6 forgotten?"

The answer to this question is relatively easy, just think about it. Logically the reason the installments were ignored was to make more money. I know its not right (totally disrespects Dr. Loomis), but Dimension/Halloween did it to generate more cash.

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[Elgyn]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by foxgate2000:

well doesn't that really seem to be kind of disrespectful to the late Donald Pleasance (the actor portraying Dr. Loomis)? I mean he died shortly after 6. To me, in my opinion, saying the swan songs of his character never happened is kind disrespectful.
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Um dude the ENTIRE MOVIE of Part 6 is a disrespectful end for Donald Pleasance.

[foxgate2000]

Well, opinions are like assholes you know..lol..I enjoyed 6. I didn't like the whole Cult of Thorne or genetic experimentation as i stated prior, but the film had a certain...something to it i guess. Anyhoo, I liked it better than H20 for the most part (except H20 did have that scene with JLC coming face to face with Myers for the first time in 20 years, and the subsequent battle afterwards). Also, i guess I am one of the few Tommy Doyle fans out there, as well.

[foxgate2000]

Besides, obviously Donald Pleasance didn't have a problem acting in it. He COULD have optioned out since he obviously wasn't well at the time.

[#1myersfan]

wait, o there was a scene in H20 that in fact explained parts 4-6???????????? explain this to me schmoes, please!!!!

[Elgyn]

foxgate2000 -

I kinda like Part 6 as a guilty pleasure. But man that last scene in the movie was such a horrible end for Dr. Loomis. He goes back into the hospital, and then we just hear him scream! That, to me, is much more disrespectful than the way he`s referenced in "H20". I mean I understand he died during production, but they couldn`t come up with a better way to end it?

Pleasence opted to be in Part 6 because he liked the screenplay.....but, of course, the actual movie turned out much different than the original screenplay.

BTW, I liked Tommy Doyle too and I wish Paul Rudd would come back and make him the new 'Loomis'-type character.

[foxgate2000]

Hey we all have our guilty pleasures, and I totally agree that the very end of 6 was a very weak end for Dr. Loomis. I really had no idea they changed the script drastically from what it originally was (surprising, being a film student and all), or maybe they didn't I really don't know...but if they would have lost the Cult of Thorne and genetic experimentation thing (as i stated numerous times) it would have been a great sequel instead of a good one. IMO!

[Elgyn]

Hey foxgate, you DO know about the 'Producer`s Cut' of Part 6, right? It`s a much different version of the movie (more like the original screenplay).

[JasonV.723]

in my opinion they were great movies so 2 me the were not 4gotten let M. Meyers live!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foxgate2000]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Elgyn:
Hey foxgate, you DO know about the 'Producer`s Cut' of Part 6, right? It`s a much different version of the movie (more like the original screenplay).</font>

Yes, I did hear about it but haven't seen it yet. I want to. Is the DVD for sale?

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by foxgate2000:
Yes, I did hear about it but haven't seen it yet. I want to. Is the DVD for sale?</font>


Unfortunately, there is no DVD for sale of Halloween 6:The Producers Cut. So you would have to get a VHS or sumthin if you wanted it. Maybe DIMENSION would realize that more people are wanting this thing on DVD. Maybe they could go all out and make a Halloween 6? Producers Cut 2 pack DVD thing...one can hope.

later

[teenkiller]

I think ultimately these sequels were forgotten so they could bring back Jamie Lee and not mention anything so they wouldn't confuse the generation of new fans who hadn't seen any of the sequels. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Jason Voorhees]

They cut thses films so the new sequels could be marketed as direct sequels to the original Halloween films, making them more respectable by the mainstream publics standards.