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SenorSpielbergo
02-19-2003, 05:07 PM
What does everyone think will be the Battlefield: Earth's and Freddy Got Fingered's of this year? I think Kangaroo Jack could already be a contender but I haven't seen it yet so I won't comment on it.

cky_landspeed
02-19-2003, 06:27 PM
The Lizzie McGuire Movie, or Agent Cody Banks

The Prowler
02-19-2003, 06:37 PM
Ditto with Kangaroo Jack and Agent Cody Banks. Don't plan on seeing those ever. Its hard to say what else is gonna be bad yet

Chris411
02-19-2003, 07:20 PM
That cartoon pimp movie, although I cannot remember what it is called.

dh1989
02-19-2003, 07:29 PM
THE LEAUGE OF EXTRORDINARY GENTLEMAN

Sad man
02-19-2003, 08:10 PM
Agent Cody Banks

and maybe that one called What a Girl Want.They both look bad like Tom Green masturbating a horse(From Freddy Got Fingered)

ilovemovies
02-19-2003, 08:33 PM
I don't know, I think Cody Banks actually looks like fun. No, perhaps the single most unpromising sounding movie coming out this year is:

From Justin to Kelly: The Rise of Two American Idols

And House of 1,000 Corpses looks pretty awful from what I've seen.

1ofthebluesbros
02-19-2003, 08:57 PM
I think Cradle 2 the Grave will flop pretty baddly. It looks horrible, It looks like a retarded romeo must die, mixed with exit wounds! It will be bad, and flop in my opinion.

Hannibal21
02-19-2003, 10:10 PM
Good call on Agent Cody Banks. Boy how I LOATHE that jackass Frankie Muniz! :mad:

idealdiscountdude
02-19-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by dh1989
THE LEAUGE OF EXTRORDINARY GENTLEMAN

WTF dh! ;)

LXG looks awesome! It's got a great cast, cool characters, and an awesome premise.....plus the teaser trailer was tres cool!

IMO, I'd have to say House Of 1000 Corpses and Willard

Adam J. Hakari
02-19-2003, 11:39 PM
And here we go with the WILLARD-bashing again...;) J/K, idealdiscountdude

WHAT A GIRL WANTS and NATIONAL SECURITY look to be contending for the title of cruddiest movie of the year.

Scarface98.9
02-20-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by dh1989
THE LEAUGE OF EXTRORDINARY GENTLEMAN
I have a bit of trouble believing that. It's been made by Stephen Norrington, who did the pretty good comic book movie Blade. It's based on a comic book series ranking up with the best of the best. Plus, it has Sean Connery, so it can't be all that bad. The trailer was pretty cool, and for someone who gave 10's to Daredevil and Spider Man, you'll probably love this.

Assuming Norrington didn't fuck up, but I doubt it.

My pick for the Battlefield Earth/Freddy Got Fingered of 2003:

Kill Bill

Tom Samborski
02-20-2003, 09:07 AM
Agent Cody Banks and The Core.

SenorSpielbergo
02-20-2003, 03:40 PM
I don't think Agent Cody Banks looks THAT bad, but indeed it does look bad. It just doesn't look like another Freddy Got Fingered or Battlefield: Earth in my opinion.

dannywalker17
02-20-2003, 04:33 PM
It's between Kangaroo Jack and From Justin to Kelly. As much as I enjoy American Idol, I think that movie sounds like the stupidest idea ever.

Sad man
02-20-2003, 07:05 PM
What about Johnny English?, It looks bad for me.

Gregorious8
02-20-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by dh1989
THE LEAUGE OF EXTRORDINARY GENTLEMAN

Not a chance in hell this will be this year's worst movie. With that cast and crew there is about a 1% chance of fucking it up.

Johnny English is looking pretty bad, I just saw the trailer.

ilovemovies
02-23-2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Scarface98.9


Plus, it has Sean Connery, so it can't be all that bad. T


My pick for the Battlefield Earth/Freddy Got Fingered of 2003:

Kill Bill


By saying that I suppose you either have not seen or have forgotten about The Avengers and A Good Man in Africa. I also thought Entrapment was so-so.

Scarface98.9
02-23-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by ilovemovies
By saying that I suppose you either have not seen or have forgotten about The Avengers and A Good Man in Africa. I also thought Entrapment was so-so.
You're right, I haven't seen those three movies, so I can still be an optimist. Besides, more often than not just by being there Connery can make a movie better, even if it's crap

freakandgeek
02-25-2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Tom Samborski
[B]Agent Cody Banks


yup

blankpage
02-25-2003, 09:45 AM
Well, so far it's Just Married.

Cody Banks looks awful, and this will take the prize most likely. It looks even more dreadful the Big Fat Liar.

DevilMonkey
02-26-2003, 01:10 AM
Why do you guys pick on kids movies such as Kangaroo Jack and Agent cody Banks? There Kids movies! (Kangaroo Jack was good, IMO) Battlefeild Eartha and Freddy Got fingerd are the worlds 2 worst movies and your comparing them to decent kiddie flicks. But If you want to know what will be this years Battlefeild earth I would have to say A League of Extrrodinary Gentlemen.

DevilMonkey
02-26-2003, 01:22 AM
I would also like to say that you shouldn't compare kids movies to freedy got fingered because that movie was stupid, disturbing, and dumb.

P.S. Go see Kangaroo Jack before you say it looks like one of the years worst movies of the year because IMO it was probally one of the best Kids film ive seen at least in my top 10 (all pixar movies, Charlie and the choclate factory then Kangaroo jack) and also Willard looks good IMO and I think it might do well at the box office dispte what some people say.

Jon Lyrik
02-26-2003, 06:05 PM
>>>you shouldn't compare kids movies to freedy got fingered because that movie was stupid, disturbing, and dumb.<<<
You misunderstood them. They meant by quality, not how disturbing they are.

>>>Why do you guys pick on kids movies such as Kangaroo Jack and Agent cody Banks? There Kids movies!<<<
They are kid's films, but just because they are don't mean they should not be critiqued. When it comes to being critiqued, kid's films should be critiqued like all other films. Why shouldn't they?

Jon Lyrik
02-26-2003, 06:12 PM
Right now, that's hard to list what is, because at this time of year A LOT of bad movies are released by the studios. You can count all the decent films released so far this year on one hand.

Ed
02-27-2003, 10:38 PM
From Justin to Kelly... anyone?? american idol movie will definitely SUCK!

JCPhoenix
02-28-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Ed
From Justin to Kelly... anyone?? american idol movie will definitely SUCK!

u know a movie is gonna suck WHEN...

...it features two pop singers
...they bring in the writer of SPICEWORLD (FOR cryin out loud, SPICEWORLD WRITER?!!:eek: like jeez, i thought this guy's career would be over after that trash...but no, they decided to keep him in storage, just in time for the next wave of crap to come along)

if there was any sign that a movie was gonna suck, THAT WOULD BE IT :rolleyes: like come on, have these people who get him to write the script even seen the spiceworld movie?!!!

Jon Cocco
02-28-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by SenorSpielbergo
What does everyone think will be the Battlefield: Earth's and Freddy Got Fingered's of this year? I think Kangaroo Jack could already be a contender but I haven't seen it yet so I won't comment on it.


Kangaroo Jack and Cradle 2 the Grave are officially the first two Worst films of 2003 so far.


Official reviews list at this link is proof for Kangaroo Jack

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1807858520&cf=critic&intl=us

Cradle 2 the Grave is just utter complete trash that my friend walked out of. He said it was worse than Romeo Must Die and almost as bad as Ballistics - Ecks vs Sever and The One. Here are the reviews on Cradle 2 the Grave below: Great title by the way. *cough* sarcasm.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808403751&cf=critic&intl=us

RogueSpear
02-28-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Jon Cocco
Kangaroo Jack and Cradle 2 the Grave are officially the first two Worst films of 2003 so far.


Official reviews list at this link is proof for Kangaroo Jack

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1807858520&cf=critic&intl=us

Cradle 2 the Grave is just utter complete trash that my friend walked out of. He said it was worse than Romeo Must Die and almost as bad as Ballistics - Ecks vs Sever and The One. Here are the reviews on Cradle 2 the Grave below: Great title by the way. *cough* sarcasm.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808403751&cf=critic&intl=us

Are you aware that a bunch of critics do not speak for the rest of the world. Why do you consistently back up your claims of a movie's trashiness by putting up reviews from other people. People make their own decisions about a movie's worth. I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoyed Kangaroo Jack and Cradle 2 the Grave. If it's your opinion that they're bad that's cool, but by quoting critics reviews your basically saying "Look, Roger Ebert and the reviewer for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer said it's bad so that means it is!".

Anyway, just from reading premises alone I would have to say the worst looking movies coming out this year are Agent Cody Banks, From Justin to Kelly (why, I ask, why?) and What A Girl Wants.

Addi88
02-28-2003, 05:09 PM
From Justin To Kelly and The Lizzie McGuire Movie

They look dreadful:mad:

But so far, Deliver Us From Eva has to be the worst of 2003

Jon Cocco
02-28-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by RogueSpear
Are you aware that a bunch of critics do not speak for the rest of the world. Why do you consistently back up your claims of a movie's trashiness by putting up reviews from other people. People make their own decisions about a movie's worth. I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoyed Kangaroo Jack and Cradle 2 the Grave. If it's your opinion that they're bad that's cool, but by quoting critics reviews your basically saying "Look, Roger Ebert and the reviewer for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer said it's bad so that means it is!".
. [/B]

I am sure some people enjoy bad movies, and some people will call Cradle 2 the Grave a mindless, escapist, dumb, fun entertainment flick ... or guity pleasure which I don't think it is. The reason why I post the link is not because I agree with the critics. Most of the time, I could care less what they think. I post the link as evidence so that I am not questioned as to where I get my "information, until I see the movie myself. In this case, I already know it is bad from the director and script.

Times before, I have posted on other sites, and people will accuse other people (including myself) for not having any proof of information to argue. I don't like to argue with people, because we are all on a computer in different parts of the world. It is so fucking pointless, even in person. I do however know when a movie will be poorly directed, even if some people enjoy the movie and are ignorant to the knowledge of the style of directing. Some people are just not as critical, observent, or compulsive about seeing quality, but other people are. However, movies like Cradle 2 the Grave are made purely to make money off the public.

The studios have hired this director because he is very inexpensive to work with, or so I've read. I hate seeing Jet Li in crap movies, because his quality American image will eventually die. Some people I know have already given up on his American films. There are some movies Example: Ballistics, that should not ever be made. I believe in advancing, modifying, innovation, and time put into a movie to make it at the least bit good. I don't mind if a movie is okay (example) Fast and the Furious, but I have when Hollywood tried to take advantage of people by rushing a poorly written script, and putting several popular people in it to attract people.

When shitty movies come out, it fucks up the impression of the the actors image. Jet Li, for instance, is an awesome fighter, but he is ignorant to the type of director he is trusting. Most people don't care about who the director is, but a bad director almost always means a bad movie, or a movie that most people will hate. If things are bad, Hollywood should stop making them, even if several people like them.

I simply try to take what little information I have, and present the case to the people who are not sure about a movie, or thinks the previews are good becaue of eye-candy or other attractive bullshit. When someone thinks something is good, and I know it is not good, I feel ignorant not speaking up. Maybe I should say nothing and watch people write tons of reviews on how much they hated the movie. Yeah, that would mean it isn't nice to be honest. Unlike few people, I can tell exactly how good or bad a movie will be like from seeing the preview and knowing the production, story, and director behind it. I have seen tons of bad movies in my life, and I have directed Independent films. I talk from someone who has some background in the subject. If people don't see trash ... Hollywood will not produce it.

The critics review link above was just an example tool to add to my point. The official reviewers are NOT always correct, and some of them are biased or don't know what is cool since they are older, less experienced, less observent ... some of them don't deserve to review ... but the general public seems to trust them more than me.

The Claw
02-28-2003, 07:33 PM
Agent Cody Banks or Kangaroo Jack. Both look really bad and I wont ever see them.

RogueSpear
02-28-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Jon Cocco
In this case, I already know it is bad from the director and script.

It's good that you can pass judgment on something you've never seen. Regardless of the director and script, it could surprise you. Many times I've said I don't want to see a movie because it looks bad or doesn't interest me, but it's completely different for me to say I don't want to see something because I don't like the director.

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
I do however know when a movie will be poorly directed, even if some people enjoy the movie and are ignorant to the knowledge of the style of directing. Some people are just not as critical, observent, or compulsive about seeing quality, but other people are.

Why do I get the feeling that you like to make yourself seem better than everyone else? People who like movies you don't are not "ignorant to the knowledge of the style of directing". Different people like different things. Just because you think a movie is bad doesn't mean that it is. Opinions are all relative to the person holding them and everyone is different. For example, take Taxi Driver, which you list as one of your favorite movies. Many people say this movie was great, one of the best of all time. Well, I disagree. I think it sucked. It was boring, the characters were extremely unlikable and I didn't give a damn about any of them. Now, does that make me right and everyone who likes it wrong? No, it's simply relative.

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
When shitty movies come out, it fucks up the impression of the the actors image. Jet Li, for instance, is an awesome fighter, but he is ignorant to the type of director he is trusting. Most people don't care about who the director is, but a bad director almost always means a bad movie.

Hey, maybe you should call up Jet Li and tell him all this. You seem to know more about than he does. Sounds like he could use your help! You could be his agent!

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
When someone thinks something is good, and I know it is not good, I feel ignorant not speaking up. Maybe I should say nothing and watch people write tons of reviews on how much they hated the movie.

This is possibly the funniest things I have ever read! Explain to me how exactly it is that you know what I or any of the other millions of moviegoers in the world think is good and what's not good. In fact, you have absolutely no idea what I think is good. What a bunch of egotistical bullshit!

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
Unlike few people, I can tell exactly how good or bad a movie will be like from seeing the preview and knowing the production, story, and director behind it.

I'm glad your so much smarter than the rest of us cattle who are wasting away all of our money on movies that we should no are bad already. Shame on us for liking something you don't!

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
If people don't see trash ... Hollywood will not produce it.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
The critics review link above was just an example tool to add to my point. The official reviewers are NOT always correct, and some of them are biased or don't know what is cool since they are older, less experienced, less observent ... some of them don't deserve to review ...

Once again, it's not that the reviewers "don't know what is cool" it's that they don't like a movie. Why don't they deserve to review? Because they don't like the movies you like? Why is it so hard for people to understand that everyone has a different opinion and that opinion is not wrong! Is it really such a hard concept to grasp?

Originally posted by Jon Cocco
but the general public seems to trust them more than me

Dude, I doubt the general public even knows who the hell you are.

DevilMonkey
02-28-2003, 08:07 PM
Please don't mention another thing about kangaroo jack untill you go see it because critics are way way way tooo opinionated.

idealdiscountdude
02-28-2003, 11:39 PM
IMO, I just saw one that I believe is unintentionally bad and deserves to be nominated for some Razzies come years end....that film would be the horribly disappointing.....





The Life Of David Gale

thompsoncory
02-28-2003, 11:54 PM
One word.
W-I-L-L-A-R-D.

A disgusting and stupid looking movie that looks truly awful. Why anyone would want to make this trash is beyond me.

DevilMonkey
03-01-2003, 12:14 AM
WILLIRD LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JCLC11
03-01-2003, 12:22 AM
From Justin To Kelly . . . :rolleyes:

Jon Cocco
03-01-2003, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by RogueSpear
It's good that you can pass judgment on something you've never seen. Regardless of the director and script, it could surprise you. Many times I've said I don't want to see a movie because it looks bad or doesn't interest me, but it's completely different for me to say I don't want to see something because I don't like the director.

Several of my friends have seen this film, even though I told them it would suck. Most people see films like this because of Jet Li and the martial arts. I have been told that there are hardly any martial arts in this whole movie. It is like a pointless drama that focuses around DMX. Cradle 2 the Grave has only two, short, memorable fight scenes with Jet Li. One of my friends actually walked out of this movie, after the cool beginning because he said it just kept getting worse. This director has never made a half-decent movie before. I am certain that it will be bad, if people are telling me Romeo Must Die was better. Cradle 2 the Grave has hardly any action, and the end fight is much shorter than antipated.

Also, even though you disagree with me posting official reviews, I am sure that 14 out of 15 people give a movie a low score for a reason, even if it is not as bad as they say it is. These reviewers are the same people gave Romeo Must Die a higher rating overall by a little, and I'm not surprised. The trailer to Romeo Must Die at least looked good. the trailer for Cradle 2 the Grave looks rediculous. Plus I just saw that end ring of fire idea in Romeo Must Die.

Why do I get the feeling that you like to make yourself seem better than everyone else? People who like movies you don't are not "ignorant to the knowledge of the style of directing". For example, take [b]Taxi Driver, which you list as one of your favorite movies. Many people say this movie was great, one of the best of all time. Well, I disagree. I think it sucked. It was boring, the characters were extremely unlikable and I didn't give a damn about any of them. Now, does that make me right and everyone who likes it wrong? No, it's simply relative.

Because not everyone here has worked with editing, directing, mixing, and making Independent films. If you have any knowledge of film and have actually studied it, taken classes, made films ... great! I would be pretty ignorant if I just preached a bunch of ego-eccentric bullshit without any education behind it ... Also, Taxi Drive was on my list of most ambition, accomplished, powerful films to date. This was not one of my top favorites, although for its time I put it at the top of the list. You have to look at the fact that the movie was made in 1976. It was one of the first films ever ... to dipict and show the life of someone vigilant, violent, angry, crazy, psychotic, and not being in black and white. It was controversial, and the Scorcese made it so we do not like the good / bad character that Robert De Niro is becoming. The fact that this was made before A Clockwork Orange shows that a lot had been accomplished in cinema for its time, even if it was slow (I agree).

The part where I said: "I can tell when a movie is good" ... and this means even if I don't like it. Example: Pulp Fiction. People seemed to love or hate this movie ... but I found myself in the middle. I had to see it several times before realizing what it was setting off to accomplish, which wasn't indirectly any one thing at all. It was original, unique, well written in its unpredictable and strange nature. It was different ... with several very funny, random scenes of dark and extreme humor that people either laughed at or took seriously. Of course, not every person likes every movie, but it the facts about something that builds a foundation for what is or isn't quality, and I don't always mean opinions. Taxi Drive did a lot for its time, whether you want to admit that or not. A Clockwork Orange, Caligula, Texas Chainsaw Massecre, Exorcist, The Omen, were the first in-color disturbing films that won huge accomplishment praise around the globe.

Just like The Matrix, which innovated and expanded cinema significantly for our time, the other films innovated and helped create the beginning of dark, disturbing, drama and horror. Can you think of another movie besides The Matrix in the past twenty years that has inspired over ten other movies, five triple-platinum selling videogames, several TV shows and fashion (alias), and a following all around the world? Does this mean The Matrix is the best movie ever? No. But it means that The Matrix obviously was great according to most people for a reason besides making money ... because the businesses copying the Matrix obviously are looking for that. I am talking about the people, and when you read 9/10 peoples reviews, you see what I am talking about. The editing put into the visuals and imagination behind this thing was extrodinary, ambitious, and amazing in the eyes of most movie people in this entire world, especially for its time. That doesn't mean you have to like it or not, but its accomplishments are something of face, innovation in visuals, extremely deep blend of story, plot, martial arts, philosophy, having no God, and hundreds of other human related ideas. So when I talk for or against something, it isn't because bad because it didn't innovate, but has the time put into it to entertain the majority, or are the DIRECTOR, not always studio's trying to pull a fast one on the majority (ex: Ballistic Ecks vs Sever)? ? It has been done too many times and seeing every shitty movie to make certain is like having a bunch of ugly girls with bruises asked to line up so I can try to distinguish the super models. It is pointless, rediculous, and I would have spoken to people long before engaging in such event, or in this case speech since we are not doing such actions. Just an example.

Hey, maybe you should call up Jet Li and tell him all this.

Hey maybe I will.

You seem to know more about than he does. Sounds like he could use your help! You could be his agent!

Oh you're so funny I forgot to commit suicide.

Explain to me how exactly it is that you know what I or any of the other millions of moviegoers in the world think is good and what's not good. In fact, you have absolutely no idea what I think is good. What a bunch of egotistical bullshit!

I don't. But most of what is considered by the majority, long before it arrives ... to be good, great, or excellent ... I have called well ahead of time on how well or bad it will be and why. I have not always been correct. I over-estimated the good Romeo Must Die trailer, not knowing the director Andrzej Bartkowiak, since that was his first film. Usually, if a director has not made a good movie by his third time (what's considered good by more than half the movie goers who see it) ... than he most likely never will and it is rarely possible. Cradle 2 the Grave is a rushed film with a bad script. They shot Jet Li's scenes in like two or three months. Even Tom Arnold admits that this director makes shitty movies. A friend of mine says he said this during the blooper shots, which are funnier than the comic relief is in the entire movie because he is being serious and people know the movie wasn't good ... so I am that the credits end is something along those lines with the end of this directors films being good because of the come-back bloopers.

Now I am not saying it is totally true, knowing me I will eventually see the movie but not in the theater because I have been pissed off from seeing hardly any martial arts in his films before. Lastly, I do not know what you like as far as movies go. But few people like bad films. It isn't hard to pick out films that the actor (Antonio Bandaras) admits to wishing he never did like Ballistics, which I said four months before how terrible it would be. It is rare that many people enjoy a film where the director admits that it is not good. This actually does happen more than studios wish it would when they finance something that is up to the director to accept and make as best he can. Directors should be very critical of their work, because their work (art) is percieved and molded by the eye of the public, and it is not always what the director once imagined it to be for better or worse. The director will always be a bit biased. It is impossible not to be. Where am I going with all of this??? I am simply saying that the director DOES have a biggest part of the movie. The director can change the scrip (many times), use more money than budgeted (most mainstream times), and is in charge of coordinating the full editing, which include the shots of everything he chooses to show. By knowing a directors ambitions, past, history, filmography ... it kind of gives us an outline of what he perfers, likes, and is or is not good for. If a director makes absolute similar movies, which people are already saying Cradle 2 Grave is like Romeo Must Die 2 ... his style and (flow) is picked up, his weakness and strong points are shown. This is how most of the time I can tell if the director has improved or not. It literally says how well or poor a movie will be directed, hence made.

I'm glad your so much smarter than the rest of us cattle who are wasting away all of our money on movies that we should no are bad already. Shame on us for liking something you don't!

I am sure you are smarter than I am doing whatever job, career, or studies you do or have gotten degrees in. I would hope to be better educated in something if I have studied and done something, compared to those who haven't. It has nothing to do with being better than someone else. More informed with that particular field is one thing. I am not assuming who does not does not work with film, on public forums with thousands of people. That would be like me holding a sign up that says kick me. I am not ignorant to what one or two parts of my paragraphs may appear to be when I am simly explaining something.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Obviously the team behind mainstream movies know that the film will generate an appeal, even if it is bad. Jet Li and DMX both have a decent fanbase, but name me one great American movie that Jet Li has been in? DMX should stick to rapping and not acting. Anyway, these films will appeal to someone. I have seen almost every Jet Li film ever made, and knowing how great he has been before ... I have come to expect more because I have seen his potential. By putting him in these LOW BUDGET American films, not only does the cheap, silly plot and story hurt the movies appeal, but the lack of martial arts scenes hurts Jet Li's image. Why do most people see Cradle 2 the Grave, besides escapist, easy entertainment? It is to see Jet Li, and I am told that DMX fights more than Jet Li and is actually in more the movie than Jet Li is. If DMX was a good actor, he would take different roles that don't have him looking tough and saying one-liners the whole time. If you saw thee far superior Fist Of Legend, you know exactly what I am saying, from both a directorial and technical perspective.

Once again, it's not that the reviewers "don't know what is cool" it's that they don't like a movie. Why don't they deserve to review? Because they don't like the movies you like? Why is it so hard for people to understand that everyone has a different opinion and that opinion is not wrong! Is it really such a hard concept to grasp?

Yes, everyone has different opinions. But when I say a movie is bad or will be bad, it most always is considered bad by more than half the people who see it. I would put money that even Andrzej Bartkowiak knows his stuff is pretty bad. We are talking about a guy who used to be a well respected cinematographer for big films like SPEED. I have read that Andrzej Bartkowiak will accept around 2-3 million to direct films. He is cheap to work with, even if his films are bad. My point above was not that everyone should agree with me. That would just be fucked up.

My point is that people should be aware of what is quality and what is crap. The reviewers don't mean that you and I will agree with them, but when the majority of people say something is bad and explain why ... it makes sense to not recommend it to someone looking to not see something that they might not enjoy. Sure, your friends know what you like and vice versa, but I am generalizing everyone. If a movie is bad, or even said by Joel Silver and Arnold to not expect much ... this is reason enough to not rush and spend 8 dollars on something that will not impress me because I shouldn't expect??? If many people are going to spend money, they want to see what they want to see. My problem with Cradle 2, aside from its cool bits I'm sure... is that this is paid off to look like a pure martial arts movie with Jet Li and DMX. Yet the movie revolves around DMX more than why most people will see this, and it hardly any martial arts, compared to the above average Kiss Of the Dragon.

Dude, I doubt the general public even knows who the hell you are.

I realize that. But the general public will trust something official that someone unknown posts, as opposed to me trying to prove something without nothing. In fewer words, I have been asked in the past to provide evidence when I say something on other forums. I simply put that link of reviews there so people did not have to ask me what the hell I am talking about and where I come off saying something is bad without having something that builds my case. That was the point of that.

blankpage
03-01-2003, 09:01 AM
Willard
From Justin to Kelly
Cradle 2 the Greave
2 Fast 2 Furious

ANTBond007
03-01-2003, 11:42 AM
The Core or House of 1,000 Corpses

HM Murdock
03-01-2003, 04:37 PM
Funny how you mentioned Freddy got Fingered. I watched about 10mins of it last night and I was disgusted. I dont sayy that often but what I saw was not funny but completly fucked up. I saw the scenes with the dead dear and the broken leg and I just sat there thinking who allowed this prick to make this shite? It just wasn't funny. Why the hell does he lick the leg wound?

What Im trying to say is there will never ever be a film as bad as this. If they ever unlock the mystery of time travel I hope they go back and kill Tom Green before he makes that pile of crap.

By the way, Battlefield Earth was crap too.

Duke Nukem
03-03-2003, 06:40 PM
Are you guys picking out these "Battlefield Earth's" by what you think will be the absolute worst film of the year, or what you and the critics would think is the ablsolute worst? If it's just you, than think about this: The absolute worst film of the year would have to have 0 to a very positive elements. Of all movies you've picked out, why "Agent Cody Banks"? At the most it will get a good portion of people as a imaginative and fun little movie, even if it is similar to the "Spy Kids" series. You want a "Battlefield Earth"? What about "Malibu's Most Wanted"? It's about Jamie Kennedy as a white and annoying/obnoxious rapper, and I must stress how terrible this movie looks. I think that the critics will beat this one death!

Raymond Babbit
03-04-2003, 03:05 PM
It hasn't been seen by many people, but the film I would pick would be an "art" flick called Russian Ark.

The Prowler
03-04-2003, 07:01 PM
Man I agree with Duke Nukem. Malibu's Most Wanted with Jamie Kennedy looks like one of the worst movies not just this year but of all time. Me and my friends were shaking our head when we saw the preview. Man I thought jamie kennedy was pretty funny in the Scream movies but now he has sunk to a new low. The gangsta slang sounds so bad its annoying. What a piece of shit looking movie, I will never see this movie even if it has decent word of mouth.

Another movie that looks bad and amateurish is Holes. That preview looks stupid as well.

Squid Vicious
03-04-2003, 08:39 PM
That movie Boat Trip with Cuba Gooding Jr. looks pretty craptacular. As does Agent Cody Banks, From Justin To Kelly, Bringing Down The House and 2 Fast 2 Furious. But we have a long year ahead of us....

On a side note, I don't think there will ever be another Freddy Got Fingered. That movie is in a class of awful all it's own, and it would be unfair to compare it to other bad movies.

Shockwave
03-04-2003, 09:25 PM
From Justin to Kelly will prob be the worst movie of the year but its going to have to work hard to beat Darkness Falls on my crapometer.