The Rage- Carrie 2

[kerryanne]

I just rented this movie this week- end and was wondering what you all thought of it... For a sequel it wasn't so bad... Actually I was kinda impressed. I watched it twice. The effects were pretty cool. The acting wasn't bad either.. so I give it a 7/10. Any comments or opinions are welcome.

[The Arrow]

I despise the flick. I liked the original though. I thought the lead was good (Rage) but had trouble with the depiction of young men in the film. I mean they're not really bad guys, they just want to get laid and definetly dont deserve being killed for it. What 16 year old male teen doesn't want to get some? Yes its a bummer that the girl who got dumped commits suicide but thats not really the guys fault, thats her fault. Bad screenplay. At leasts the main girl is good.

[leatherface66601]

I thought it was so-so i mean it wasnt really to bad.When the kid got the harpoon in the junk it gave me a shiver.

[The Arrow]

Yeah but my whole point is that the dude didn't deserve it. How could I feel sympathetic towards Carrie when the so called "bad guys" are guilty of wanting sex. Its not like they raped anybody!!! Yes some of the gore was fun but this movie is suppose to be story driven and the story sucks.

[kerryanne]

The original Carrie is based on a girl's humiliation in front of everyone in the entire school. The pretense is not different in this film. the acting my not be as great, but it wasn't so bad either. The "boys" in this film took naive vunerable girls, had sex with them and dumped them all for points. They showed Carrie loosing her virginity to the whole "in crowd" after making her believe that they were all her friends- In the original they yelled at her to plug it up and threw tampons,made her believe they were her friends and pour pigs blood on her in her one moment of glory... Do ya understand what I'm saying here Arrow?

[leatherface66601]

I think kerryanne pegged it on the dot.

[The Arrow]

The first Carrie is a metaphor for the stuff we go though in our teen years. The changes our bodies go through, the insecurities and the bullies that take advantage of our weaknesses. The original is a teens wet dream...getting even with people that were mean to you.

The sequel takes the vengeance theme but attaches it to dumb "Melrose Place" like tactics. (the guy screws her friend and dumps her, then she commits suicide, Carrie goes to the cops, friends of guy fucks with Carrie so she wont talk) I just dont buy the initial plot point that drives the story. Yes as the movie goes along, the badly written, one dimensional boys do enough cruel things to deserve a chainsaw in the head. But where did all that conflict come from? It came from some guy who dumped a girl and she killed herself. As for the whole naive aspect. The boys and the girls are the same age, are at the same mental level and in my book the guy is to blame but the girl too. She just shouldn't have given it up so easily. I mean she knew who she was dating (I assume), the kid hangs out with the hip crowd, he has a rep. She should've kept her panties on so Rage Carrie 2 would've never happened.

NOTE: The actress who plays Carrie in Rage is very good, I'll give the movie that.

[kerryanne]

The only reason they have "Melrose Tatics" is too appeal to a younger generation. The naive part is justified- the boys in this movie walked around like they were the cock of the walk so to speak. Most teenage girls dream of dating the all american boy-the jock. Shooting himself in the "junk" was a easy death as far as I am concerned, that kid was just a dick. I do however see where you are coming from. It was lame to build the conflict based on a girl getting dumped after giving away her virginity, then committing suicide. But the movie was still good, not as good as the original... but I was still impressed that for a sequel it didn't suck.

[The Arrow]

To each is own, I thought it was one of the worst horror flicks I have ever seen...maybe if I see it again Id change my mind and appreciate more.

[PackBacker]

For those of us who never plan on seeing it, can someone explain how there even is a Carrie 2 given the ending of the original?

[The Arrow]

Different girl (I dont even think hse's named Carie) who gets same powers, if I remember correctly she even has family ties with the original Carrie...anybody sen it recently and care to fill in my voids?

[ANTBond007]

Just on a side note, the main character of The Rage: Carrie 2 is named Rachel, not Carrie.

I actually kinda liked this film. It seemed more like an actual Carrie 2 than a Scream 50.

[ANTBond007]

Oh yeah, the story. Anyway, Rachel (The Rage: Carrie 2) and Carrie are sisters. How, you might ask, considering Rage takes place 25 years after Carrie? Well, seems they have the same father. The gene that causes the telekinesis is caused by the male so they both got it.

[Silent Bob]

In the first one, wasn't Carrie's father the devil and her mom was like, a saint or something? I dunno.

Anyway, in Carrie 2, how can you get your head chopped off with CD's?

I thouhgt the house where they had that party was dope. It was like the party house the rich kid's dad gave to him. I think the carrie movies are kinda dumb. The good stuff is only at the end, when the beggining and middle is all stuff that makes the girl with powers angry...I just don't buy it. I'm not making any sense right now so i'm going to smack myslef on my head

[kerryanne]

In the first Carrie her mother was a religious freak, and her father left them.

[ScaryFreak1827]

The Rage: Carrie 2 was all right. It wasn't as good as the 1st though.

[Toxferatu]

one of the few movies i had to turn off. it was just fucking awful trendy crap.

[Elgyn]

I kinda liked this movie as a "guilty pleasure". Not anywhere as meaningful or disturbing as the original, but an okay time-waster.

[Shadow Whisper]

It was pure feminazi trash.

[Kaos]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shadow Whisper:
It was pure feminazi trash.</font>

Interesting opinion, any reasons why you quite obviously hated the movie. Arrow gave some good reasons why he didn't like, what are yours? I happened to enjoy the movie, 'cause Emily Bergl(Rachell) was a very strong lead, and it was also my first chance to see the lovely Mena Suvari(Lisa) who is also a very good actress, although she didn't have a well written part here. The only thing I didn't agree with was that EVERYBODY in the popular growd were complete and utter ass-clowns. Makes me wonder if Rafael Moreu(the writter) had a problem with the "in-crowd" when he was in high-school. All in all I enjoyed this some-what flawed, but still watchable movie.

"God is dead." - Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead." - God

[teenkiller]

I think making a sequel to a movie 23 years later is somewhat pointless. After that long of a time gap you may as well just let the original be a classic stand alone film. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[fortyoneshots]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Arrow:

The first Carrie is a metaphor for the stuff we go though in our teen years. The changes our bodies go through, the insecurities and the bullies that take advantage of our weaknesses. The original is a teens wet dream...getting even with people that were mean to you.
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Why couldn't they have just left it that instead of making a sequel?

[Scully1888]

Having decided not to read any other posts on this board before posting my own opinion, in case they affect my response, I can safely say that of the many "horror" films (and I use the term "horror" loosely), The Rage: Carrie 2 is the worst.

The film is a despicably bad teen flick that is what everyone thought was bad about Urban Legend, Scream, Valentine and I Know What You Did Last Summer, only magnified hundreds of times over.

Every cliche that has been created in this pathetic "fresh faced teens at high school/college" genre is present in this film. You want cheerleaders? You got them! You want a party that looks nothing like a real party? You got one! You want a piece of shit that makes you keep pretending to your friends that you need to go to the bathroom so you can leave the theater and throw yourself under a bus because the world of horror has become so outrageoulsy bad? Believe me, my friend, you have such a piece of shit. A generously large piece, I may add.

The ending is ridiculous and makes simply no sense at all. Obviously the true Carrie fans realise the point of the original film, to show how we change as teenagers and must overcome the problems we face, no matter how obscure a way we choose to deal with them.

But the people that made this must have watched the first two minutes, said "shit", fast-forwarded to the end, saw the shock ending and wrote down in big letters "MUST HAVE SHOCK ENDING".

As I have mentioned in another post, this ending is an abomination. When I first saw it, I'll admit, I was shocked. It came out of the blue, who couldn't be shocked?

But when I ask people about the film and am about to go on my tirade of how terrible it is, I always hear the same thing: "oh, I LOVED that film! The ending was great!" The fucking ending is so "memorable" that it makes everyone forget the piece of shit they just sat through.

Give me Sleepaway Camp, Scream, hell - even give me Bloody Murder before you give me this piece of shit. Because if you give me this, you'll get it back - but I'm a generous guy, I'll let you choose what orifice in your body I stick it up.

Let it be known that I, Scully1888, think The Rage: Carrie 2 is the worst film of all time.

[InsertNameHere]

Yeah Carrie 2 is pretty shitty, it looks good though and the party scene is fun.

[SykkBoy]

Let me preface this by saying "I own both Uncle Sam and Jack Frost" so you can use that as your guidepost to decide if you want to continue reading my post http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

I liked Carrie 2 in a cheesy sort of popcron way. It's a very stereotypical teen revenge flick, but I felt the acting was above average for this type of movie. I think the biggest mistake was making this a "sequel" to Carrie. They would have been better just to call it "The Rage" (stupid title I know, but hang with me for a sec) and let it get brushed off as a ripoff rather than a sequel. As I watched it, it felt as though it was originally written as a ripoff and someone decided to let Amy Irving sleepwalk through her role and added some cheesy stuff about Ralph White.

I did take a certain joy in watching the pinhead from Home Improvement take a harpoon through the jimmies and the exploding glasses/eyeballs thing was lifted from my unpublished screenplay (joking http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif). As one of "those kids" from high school, I reverted back to the high-feuled joy of watching the jocks "get theirs".

The fact that the lead was really easyon the eyes helps...hard to believe that Amy Irving, probably the most accomplished actress of the cast turns in the worst performance. I hated the extra shit tacked on to the ending..it was almost like a "happy ending" and that bugged me. I wanted this movie to end on the down note. Not every movie needs that "Very Special Blossom moment" ending.

So, I give it a 7/10 on the b-movie scale (not to be confused with the A-movie) scale http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif)

[!MorganOnyx!]

I LOVE BEING CONTROVERSIAL!!

I'm not one of those new age horror fans. I'm 21, have seen shed loads and regard movies like HALLOWEEN, THE THING and FRIDAY THE 13th as CLASSICS. Seem sensible?

Well, I also TRULY BELIEVE that THE RAGE is FAR SUPERIOR to CARRIE in ALL aspects of film making.

I dig it. CARRIE is merely average.

[RoboPredator]

Carrie merely average?Not bloody likely!


Oh and for the record the Rage sucked ass!!!

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[Scully1888]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SykkBoy:
I hated the extra shit tacked on to the ending..it was almost like a "happy ending" and that bugged me. I wanted this movie to end on the down note.</font>

Surely it DOES end on a down note. The ending to Carrie 2's hardly a "sweetness and light" ending.

What it is, however, is the most pointless piece of shit I've ever seen.

[!MorganOnyx!]

CARRIE was an ugly disgusting bitch, and let's admit it, if a girl like that was around today she'd get bullied. I felt no sympathy for her throughout the movie apart from when her own mother tried to kill her. She pissed me off.

SPOILER


The one thing that really got me though was that sometimes she'd try really hard to move a little object, but then when TRAVOLTA'S car is SPEEDING towards her and was about HALF A SECOND away from hitting her before she TURNED AROUND, she manages to muster up the power to FLIP THE CAR about 6 FUCKING FEET into the air.

I KNOW it's not supposed to be realistic, and that's what makes certain movies so good, but I LIKED TRAVOLTA and ALL of the bullies way more than CARRIE!

[teenkiller]

All these years later and I can finally participate. YAY!!

I caught Carrie 2 on television today and it just wasn't that good. Not as good as the original from what I remember of it. It just seems very typical of the horror films that were coming out at the time. It's also too watered down with the ending to match that of the original. If I wanted to see some asshole get killed by flying CD's I'd go watch Hellraiser III. And you know what? I'm not even that fond of Hellraiser III but at least then I'd get a Cenobite out of it. No matter how lame that Cenobite was it still is at least on par with this movie.

Like I stated in my original post oh so many years ago, does this really even need to be Carrie 2? Just call it The Rage. Sure that is a dumb title but associating it with Carrie is also pretty dumb. Luckily they gave us that really cool scene where they explain just how this is connected with the original Carrie though. SIKE! Rachel and Carrie have the same father. Oooooohhhhh. Retarded. They were just grasping for straws with that one.

Much like Arrow I do feel the lead was very strong and I didn't hate the film as much as my post might have you believe. It was good for a dumb fun movie but the original Carrie was so much more than that. The Rage seems like it's trying to deliver some character development but the script is just never that good. Predictable too. Rachel finally gets in the the in crowd and of course we already know they are just setting her up. We already know that all hell breaks loose at the big party, which looked like the fakest party I ever seen. To top it off when the carnage finally came it just wasn't even that good. Watered down for the WB crowd of the time.

Did anybody else find it kind of weird that they left the charred remains of the original high school still standing after 20 years? You'd think they'd just tear it down and maybe eventually rebuild over it. Just another forced way of trying to tie it to the original. "See, they'll really feel like it's a sequel to Carrie instead of some random movie if we show them the infamous burned high school!"

The cool kids were all way too cliche too. Apparently no football players or pretty girls have a soul at this school. Sure it wasn't technically the kids fault that Mena Suvari committed suicide but did he have to joke around about it? That's just what I mean by lazy script writing. It's just a cliche way of getting us to hate the jock crowd and sympathize with Rachel when in reality nobody would act that way. I know I should be the last one to be complaining about reality considering the type of films that I watch but this film actually tried to be grounded. It wasn't like I was watching Street Trash or Frankenhooker or something.

I feel I have gone on long enough though. In short I don't feel this film is the poison that others obviously do but it never really tries to rise above mediocrity either.

Carrie 2: The Rage - 6/10

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Ratlehed]

I found The Rage mediocre but enjoyable. The lead girl was good enough to keep the movie moving. The movie is very cliche thouth. Theres alot of "been there done that" moments. I found it more enjoyable than most of the WB horrors that came out as this time. I agree with alot of others in that this should have not been a Carrie sequel. It should have just been called Rage or something. I guess they just wanted to update the Carrie story. The Carrie remake with Angela Bettis does it much better.


I liked the kill scene were the girls glasses explode into her eyes.

[Cronos]

I didn't find this that bad, it was entertaining most of the time and the acting wasn't that bad either. Has been a hell of a long time since I saw it though.

6/10

[Dragula]

The second I bought this movie, I gave it away. For those who haven't seen it, AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS!!!!

Translation: -100/10

[PreySlayDisplay]

If I want to subject myself to garbage like this, I'll just go watch The Craft.

[clepto]

I saw this movie in the theatre when I was 11 and evan than I was like what is this bullshit I mean they made an hour and a half of a drama movie and ten minutes of a horror movie, and what I mean is the only cool part is the the last 10 minutes when she fucks every one up the rest seems like a horrible movie my mom would watch on lifetime, the first was raw but this one was definately unnecisary, all in all 1/10