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Psychocandy
05-18-2002, 11:11 AM
500. Well done Scully. This has to be some kind of record outside of the horror best/worse/vs forum (ignoring the other non-horror forums that I don't frequent very often).

Andrew Tom
05-18-2002, 11:19 AM
Wow. It did happen. 500 posts. I want to congratulate not only Scully who made this possible, but also all the schmoes who read and commented the analysis. Without them(us) it would've never gotten this far.

You know who you all are. Be proud of yourselves.(If anything related to BM is worth being proud of)

Jason Voorhees
05-19-2002, 07:58 AM
Theatrical release? Higher ranking than the Godfather? DVD? My God.. What have we done?

XCoRyX
05-20-2002, 09:25 AM
what i have done is bumped this shit up to the top,but eh anyway what i have done is wait and wait and wait for bloody murder 2 so just give us it already.

Jason Voorhees
05-20-2002, 12:41 PM
Truthfully, I'd prefer an STV release as opposed to a limited theatrical run. I'd get to see the film quicker if it went STV as I imagine it would only be playing in New York and LA; two places I'm nowhere near.

gorysnoopy
05-20-2002, 06:13 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Voorhees:
Theatrical release? Higher ranking than the Godfather? DVD? My God.. What have we done?

</font>

ahhh,the power of the schmoes.......

MISFITS_Fiend
05-20-2002, 06:20 PM
I haven't posted here before now, but I gotta say...

SCULLY1888, YOU'RE A BASTARD!

You MADE me go out and search down this movie...I haven't been able to find it yet (if you can believe that), but I'm looking forward to the day I can relive this message thread while watching it.

LONG LIVE TREVOR MOOREHOUSE!!! lol

TooL
05-20-2002, 06:24 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by XCoRyX:
oh lord scully you are god,you made my day...if he is the real deal and they do release it in limited theaters,i am DEFINETLY making a call and petition for it to be in my neighborhood indy theater,the roxy,i mean they put the newest toxic avenger film on the screens,so why the hell not BM2?I will make sure this is in my city so i can go and see it on the big screen.if it is on the big screen,it cant bother me how bad it is,cause i will enjoy most of the horror i see on the big screen,espicially on the big screen,god scully you made my day indeed.</font>

I will definately sign that petition.

bowieee
05-20-2002, 08:15 PM
I seriously think its high rating on imdb has something to do with it being released theatrically. I mean come on people how the hell would a sequel like bloody murder 2 get into the theaters without some hype.......We have changed the world that is cinema my fellow schmoes. Higher than the godfather.... muahahahahahahaha

[This message has been edited by bowieee (edited 05-20-2002).]

Romero&Juliet
05-20-2002, 08:50 PM
can you vote several times for one movie in imdb????

Romero&Juliet
05-20-2002, 08:55 PM
anyone notice that The User Comments for BM2 have mysteriously disappeared???

I think they're on to us, schmoes.

Quick! change your names before the movie police come and kick the crap out of us!

Spider-Man
05-20-2002, 09:10 PM
SCULLY:
Dude, I have finished reading your ultra hilarious analysis and I have to say that Im all pissed inside this!
please tell me if U do anotherone of those, congrats, mate! You know how to make people laugh!

Jason Voorhees
05-21-2002, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Romero&Juliet:
anyone notice that The User Comments for BM2 have mysteriously disappeared???

I think they're on to us, schmoes.

Quick! change your names before the movie police come and kick the crap out of us!

I noticed this as well. Fuckin' sucks, man. Those were some excellent reviews. Ah, well, those were the days, eh?

Andrew Tom
05-21-2002, 01:53 AM
Also, have you noticed what they recommend if you've seen Bloody Murder 2?

http://us.imdb.com/Details?0000652 I think it's called Invalid IMDb-Title (????). I can't wait to see that.

Jewbo
05-21-2002, 12:22 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Romero&Juliet:
can you vote several times for one movie in imdb????</font>

no just the once unless u register with different usernames.

Jason Voorhees
05-21-2002, 02:29 PM
Does it still have the "9" rating?

ominous_oat
05-21-2002, 03:33 PM
Nope the 9 rating is gone...let's make it a perfect 10 now schmoes!

gorysnoopy
05-21-2002, 07:02 PM
i just feel terrible about lying(again!)

Scully1888
05-22-2002, 07:35 AM
Guys, sorry I've been away for a while... shitloads of university work and the like... I PROMISE the haikus will be up soon.

Now, for those that have been on the imdb.com Bloody Murder 2 page recently, I HAVE lined up interview number 2.

Two words... KATY WOODRUFF.

I'll be back soon...

Jason Voorhees
05-22-2002, 02:24 PM
The "9" is gone? Hmm... I have to go check this out...

A.J. Hakari
05-24-2002, 05:21 PM
BLOODY MURDER 2 might get a theatrical release and a deluxe DVD set...and THE STING is only available in full-frame. There is no god.

ominous_oat
05-25-2002, 01:13 PM
Yes Virginia there is a God, he just has bad taste in movies.

A.J. Hakari
05-25-2002, 02:39 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ominous_oat:
Yes Virginia there is a God, he just has bad taste in movies.</font>

Hehe...I can just imagine it...

"Hey, Jesus, you wanna watch BLOODY MURDER again? Or how about RIPPER?" http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Scully1888
05-26-2002, 05:52 AM
Jesus - "Nah, throw me over some of that Leprechaun shit! After Troll 2 I gots ta get me some more of that ass-flick shit..."

Andrew Tom
05-26-2002, 08:24 AM
So then it's probably God's will that we don't see Bloody Murder 2, which means that it'll be a good movie. Or then that's just wishful thinking...

Romero&Juliet
05-26-2002, 05:41 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ominous_oat:
Yes Virginia there is a God, he just has bad taste in movies.</font>


Lol, that's Fuc*ing hilarious!

ominous_oat
05-26-2002, 08:49 PM
*gets smitten by lightning*

[This message has been edited by ominous_oat (edited 05-26-2002).]

bowieee
05-26-2002, 09:37 PM
Jesus having some friends over to watch corky romano.


Priceless.

Romero&Juliet
05-27-2002, 10:21 PM
lol, BBBBUUUUUMMMMMPPPPP!!!!

This topic aint goin anywhere!!!

Scully1888
05-28-2002, 09:35 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Romero&Juliet:
lol, BBBBUUUUUMMMMMPPPPP!!!!

This topic aint goin anywhere!!!</font>

Don't worry R&J, once I get these Haikus up and running, not to mention another interview or two, it'll be busy again.

ominous_oat
05-28-2002, 05:16 PM
In the meantime, why not play some fun games! Okay here's the two of them:

Taglines: What would some good alternate taglines be for Bloody Murder? Here's mine:

"Tag!-You're dead"
"You will believe a man can rip off everything in sight."
"Being in love means only having to say I love you Jules"

And the second games is:

Alternate Titles: Now in Japan and other foreign country's they'll change the title to a more straightforward name, like Charlies Angels was retitled "Three got babes", so Bloody Murder would be called:

"Stupid Drunken man kills stupid sober teenagers"

"Friday the 13th"

okay now you guys do some.

Andrew Tom
05-29-2002, 01:18 AM
Taglines:

"You haven't seen a rip off, till you've seen Bloody Murder"

"There's nothing bloody about these murders"

"Welcome to Placid Pines Camp, where everything you love about horror movies, is nowhere to be seen."

"You saw Hollow Man, now see a movie where everything is hollow."(ok, this one sucks)

Alternative Titles:

"Bloody Awful Murder"

"The Rip Off"

I can't think of more right now.

MISFITS_Fiend
05-29-2002, 10:27 AM
Well, here's an alternate foreign title:

"MAN WITH DONKEY JAW PLANTS MOONBEAMS"

ummmm...sometimes the titles kinda lose it in the translation...

slasherfan
05-29-2002, 12:27 PM
Tag lines

"If this film doesn't put you to sleep, nothing will"

Alternate title

"Bloodless Murder"


IU have an Ideao for something, I'm gonna post it here later hope you like.

Jason Voorhees
05-29-2002, 11:13 PM
Some taglines:

''How not to make a film''

''Ralph Pordildo hates you. Think not? See this film.''

''A man who goes through an identity crisis, rediscovers his left hand.'' That one makes no sense purposefully; to throw the potential viewer off.

''It would hurt less to get beaten for an hour by thirteen men with a sack full of doorknobs than to encounter Trevor Moorehouse and his special friend'' Again, the last part is meaningless.

Cant wait for the haikus...

slasherfan
05-30-2002, 01:00 PM
Ok guys, here is a little something I wrote, I dunno how you guys will like it, while reading it, think of it as being written by Ralph Pordildo and that he is going to make a serious movie out of it. I may write more, depending on what you guys thing, be gentel.


BLOODY MURDER 3:
RETURN OF TREVOR MOORHOUSE

INT: WOODS DAY: It’s pitch black, we pull back to see a tree, we are in the woods, it’s a warm sunny day, and the birds can be heard all around. PETER, a tall, brown haired, blue eyed 23 year old walks by us with his blonde, middle sized, blue eyed girlfriend SARAH. We follow the two as the both head towards a clearing in the centre of the woods. Peter is carrying a picnic basket while Sarah carries a blanket. The two reach the clearing, Sarah puts the blanket down.

SARAH

What a perfect day for a picnic.

PETER

You bet yeah.

SARAH

Sing for me Peter, you’re a gifted
Singer, bet in the class.

PETER

Maybe later. I’ll sing romance.

Sarah looks over at a sign on a tree, on it are the words CAMP PLACID PINES, the words PLACID PINES are crossed out and MURDER is replaced, the sign reads CAMP MURDER. Sarah gets the shivers.

SARAH

Peter; look at that sign over there
You don’t think it has anything to
Do with Trevor Moorhouse do you?

PETER

No Sarah, Trevor Moorhouse is only
A legend, that’s it, try not to worry.

SARAH (Scared)

I do try but his name alone strikes
Fear right into my heart.

Sarah is uneasy, she seems sort of scared.

PETER

His name sends shivers down my spine
But don’t worry babe, I’m here now
And I love you, I’ll protect you if
That hockey masked, chainsaw wielding
Psycho comes out here.

Sarah smiles, she feels safe. She unzips the zipper on her jeans.

SARAH

You want to go for it?

PETER

I love you baby YEAH!

Excited, Peter undoes his zipper and jumps on top of Sarah. There is a buzzing sound from the trees.

SARAH (pushing Peter off)

What was that?

PETER

I dunno babe, sounded like a swarm of bees
Nothing to worry about, here, help me get
It in.

Sarah rolls her eyes and lets out a playful laugh and gives Peter a playful punch.

PETER

Ouch, that hurt; hey help me out here,
I really can’t get it.. oh there we go.

Suddenly, a twig snaps behind the couple, Peter looks up and sees TREVOR MOORHOUSE, wearing blue overalls and a hockey mask, Peter jumps up and backs up against a tree, a wet patch appears in his jeans.

PETER

Trevor Moorhouse.

SARAH

Oh my God! Peter save me.

PETER

Screw that!

Peter turns around and runs off, leaving Sarah alone, Sarah gets up.

SARAH (pleading)

Please don’t kill me; I’ll do what ever
You like, I’ll have sex with you.

Trevor puts his hand into his pocket and pulls out A NAIL FILE, it glimmers in the sun. He throws the nail file at Sarah, it strikes her in the cleavage and the force pulls her back, she hits a tree and gets pinned to it. Sarah cries, coughs and splutters, then dies. A bit of the nail file can be seen sticking out of her cleavage. Trevor looks at his work and looks up.
CUT TO:
Peter is zig zagging around trees, heading towards the road, panic stricken.
CUT TO:
Trevor walking speedily through the woods, whacking branches out of his way with his chainsaw.
CUT TO:
Peter stops, he looks up, the road is ten feet away, he looks behind him, and Trevor is twenty-five feet away from him.

PETER

I’ll never make it!

Peter begins to climb the tree beside him.
CUT TO:
Trevor is still walking speedily towards Peter, swinging his chainsaw around, bashing branches out of the way, SUDDENLY Trevor falls to the ground, frailing his arms in the air as he goes down. He drops his chainsaw, he looks down at his feet, Trevor has slipped in dog shit, it’s all over his shoe and the back of his trousers. He shakes his head and gets up. He starts speedily walking after Peter again. Trevor is now at the tree Peter is up. Trevor looks up and sees Peter; he tries to climb up but finds it hard with his chainsaw hand. Peter sees Trevor and begins to panic, Trevor is slowly getting up the tree, and then there is a sudden ringing sound.

PETER

Oh thank God.

Peter puts his hand in his pocket and pulls out his cell phone.

PETER

I forgot I had this, I’m saved.

Peter throws the ringing phone at Trevor, the phone SMACKS Trevor on the head and shatters to pieces. Trevor loses his grip on the tree and falls off to the ground. He gets up and looks out at Peter, he clenches his fist and shakes it angrily at Peter, suddenly a shoe SMACKS Trevor right on the hockey mask, he falls to the ground. Dazed Trevor starts whacking at the tree with his chainsaw, he is pretty pissed off. Up in the tree Peter starts laughing at Trevor, swinging around the branch.

PETER

Ha, ha, loser, you can’t get me!

Suddenly there is a cracking sound.

PETER

Oh Poodle poop!

The branch CRACKS and snaps, sending Peter falling towards the ground. Trevor smiles and holds his chainsaw up for Peter to land on, Peter falls and missed the chainsaw, he lands on top of Trevor. The two fall to the ground, Peter, rolls over and tries to run, his ankle is sprained, he tries to crawl away, Trevor stands up and walks towards Peter

PETER (In slow motion)

Noooo Please don’t kill me, I’ll do
Anything, I’ll sing for you.

Trevor advanced, Peter pulls his other shoe off and throws it at Trevor, and it whacks him on the mask, Trevor, goes back a little but doesn’t fall.

PETER (Singing in normal motion)

There you are, like a throbbing star!

Trevor raises his chainsaw. We close in on his mask, Peter starts shaking his head in slow motion, and we close in on his face.

PETER (In slow motion)

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Trevor brings the chainsaw down, slicing Peter’s neck open, a bit of blood drips out as Peter holds the wound.
FADE TO BLACK

TITLE CARD: BLOODY MURDER 3: THE REVENGE OF TREVOR MOORHOUSE



[This message has been edited by slasherfan (edited 05-30-2002).]

fatale_femme
05-30-2002, 04:32 PM
He he thats excellent, well done Slasher!

hehe. was just looking at BM on Blackstar.co.uk (no...Im not going to buy it...who said that? *hides her face in shame*)

Anywho- look at this- read the 'Customers who bought this also bought' bit:

http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000056459

lol. The Three Amigos and Tommy Cooper...hehe

bowieee
05-31-2002, 01:18 AM
whens bm2 getting released dammit! I need my cheesy fix.

gatomighty26
06-01-2002, 07:43 PM
Scully, i just rented the first one about a month ago. It made me laugh like hell! lol Especially the music they played towards the beginning, when they are preparing to go kayaking. Right after that girl and guy get locked in the kitchen. It sounded like Willie Nelson music gone horribly wrong! lol So Scully, is it the real Trevor Moorehouse? Or is it that Nelson guy, who acted like he was Patrick, a camp counselor? Did he escape from prison? lol Is any of the characters from part 1 in it, or even mentioned? Thanks

Jason Voorhees
06-04-2002, 12:17 PM
BUMP.

Jason Voorhees
06-05-2002, 06:36 PM
[quoteOriginally posted by Zing!:
Because I think there's a hockey-masked, chain-saw wielding maniac in your closet!!! :) [quote]

There always is if you believe in magic...

BiggNewt
06-06-2002, 08:57 PM
You'll always have a friend wearing big red shoes...If you believe in Magic!

ominous_oat
06-06-2002, 09:25 PM
*cocks shotgun*

A clown is no one's friend

JasonSlasher
06-07-2002, 08:39 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scully have a post here about why he wasn't posting on here so much and then some others after that? Were they deleted or something?

gorysnoopy
06-07-2002, 11:21 AM
i think so jason.
i responded to his post and now i don't see it.

weird.
i hope he's alright.

Jason Voorhees
06-07-2002, 01:32 PM
Odd...

ominous_oat
06-07-2002, 01:56 PM
I'm beginning to worry quiet a bit now...first he resigns as moderator...then his posts dissapere....does anyone have answers? Arrow? Someone!?

Requiem-for-a-Dream
06-07-2002, 02:16 PM
I love it! I would honestly make that movie!
That's some of the funniest shit I've read.

Matt

Jason Voorhees
06-08-2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by ominous_oat:
[B]I'm beginning to worry quiet a bit now...first he resigns as moderator...then his posts dissapere....does anyone have answers? Arrow? Someone!?

I second this line of questioning.

JoBlo
06-09-2002, 12:53 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ominous_oat:
I'm beginning to worry quiet a bit now...first he resigns as moderator...then his posts dissapere....does anyone have answers? Arrow? Someone!?</font>

As you guys ALL KNOW BY NOW (http://www.joblo.com/rules.htm), we don't allow "personal" posts on our board. We all have personal issues day to day, or week to week, but our MOVIE BOARD, or these HORROR FORUMS are not the place to discuss them (see guidelines #1).

You can use chat, email, irc, phone, etc.. for those types of things.

We deleted those specific posts because they had nothing to do with the topic at hand. If anyone is worried about Scully, I would suggest you email him.

Thanks for understanding and keeping the focus on movies on our boards.

DoctorGonzo
06-10-2002, 08:59 AM
Wow. I must say, I didn't believe Chris when he told me about this thing he'd written. But it's ace. Well done, mate. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Oh, and don't worry about him. He's alive, but there's been exams and stuff recently. Actually, maybe you should worry about him. I'd worry about anyone who wrote this much on such a ropey film...

Jason Voorhees
06-11-2002, 10:04 PM
Indeed, Doc, indeed...

MISFITS_Fiend
06-14-2002, 11:02 AM
Does anyone know if Blockbuster still carries this movie? After reading this looooooooooooooooong thread, I had to see it. Unfortunately, every Blockbuster I've gone to doesn't have it in DVD or VHS!!! Grrrrrrr...

Horror_Fanatic
06-14-2002, 03:17 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MISFITS_Fiend:
Does anyone know if Blockbuster still carries this movie? After reading this looooooooooooooooong thread, I had to see it. Unfortunately, every Blockbuster I've gone to doesn't have it in DVD or VHS!!! Grrrrrrr...</font>

I stoped using Blockbuster a couple of years ago because of the lackluster horror selection. I like to use HollyWood Video, or if you don't have one in your town, try a mom&pops kinda place.

AppleHuntr
06-17-2002, 12:21 PM
I know I'm REALLY late on this, but I just read the analysis yesterday and loved it, how clever! It was constantly funny and now I kinda feel like renting that piece of shit, with the analysis in hand of course so I dont miss a thing. I dont usually rent straight to video horror, but it sounds like a bloody good time! Again, great job Scully!

(this is one LONG post, and I cant believe theres a sequel. Under IMDb all the actors and actresses have done barely anything! Although several are on Undressed and does this director do porn? oh well, great post)

MISFITS_Fiend
06-20-2002, 05:22 PM
Hey, how the hell did this end up on the 2nd page??? I haven't posted here much, but this is the one post that I always make a point of visiting. So, in tribute to a noticibly absent Scully, here goes...

BUMP!!!

JasonSlasher
06-21-2002, 05:09 PM
Well, we've (or at least I've) feared this coming, but now here's no denying it. This thread is dead.

RIP.

Andrew Tom
06-21-2002, 05:24 PM
Don't give up yet...there's a chance of reviving it. Don't give up hope!

ominous_oat
06-23-2002, 07:05 PM
Fear not everyone, I talked to Scully and he'll be coming back to the boards soon.

Jason Voorhees
06-24-2002, 04:04 PM
Yeah, things should pick up again when he returns.

Scully1888
06-25-2002, 05:09 PM
I'm back.

I had some personal problems, but this is not the place to discuss them.

Thanks for keeping this topic alive, and I'm still working on that Katy Woodruff interview.

And those damn haikus'll be done soon too!

Still looking for BM2... no word yet on its release, but you can expect an in-depth analysis as soon as it's out.

I feel a lot better now, and you can now expect to see me on these boards a lot more, even more than I previously was!

Updates soon...

Chris

cereal killer
06-25-2002, 05:11 PM
Welcome back scully and I can't wait for BM 2.

slasherfan
06-25-2002, 06:58 PM
I may add to my ikle fan script......... later......

Jason Voorhees
06-26-2002, 05:10 AM
About goddamn time we got to the 15th page http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

Scully1888
06-28-2002, 10:19 AM
HERE IT IS - AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH KATY WOODRUFF, STAR OF BLOODY MURDER 2: CLOSING CAMP!

I know Katy occasionally uses JoBlo.com, and has been known to visit this thread, so Katy if you're reading this, I hope you don't mind me posting this interview on this thread before printing it in my student newspaper.

Okay schmoes, here's that interview I promised you with Katy Woodruff. There are some interesting things revealed in this one...

Chris Scullion (Scully1888)- What is the basic storyline of Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp?
Katy Woodruff - I don't know how much I can tell you, outside of it being your basic "a bunch of teenagers unsupervised, in the woods." Basically, they're all camp counselors and there is a killer loose in the woods.

CS - What character do you play, and what role does she have in the movie?
KW - I play Tracy, the lead. She is Jason, from the first films, sister. She goes back to Placid Pines to try and get some closure about her brother's disappearance.

CS - Have you ever seen the original Bloody Murder? If so, what did you think of it?
KW - I did not see the original Bloody Murder. I was afraid it would discourage me too much about being optimistic about this project. We all went up there with the mindset that we would make a better movie. (we hope) Granted BM2 is not genius.... but it's a fun little movie.

CS - Is Trevor Moorhouse in Bloody Murder 2? If so, does he look similar to how he did in Bloody Murder 2?
KW - Trevor is in BM2, and if he wore workman's clothes and a mask in the first one, then yes.

CS - Can you comment on (or do you know anything about) the rumours that Bloody Murder 2 could now be coming to cinemas at the end of the summer, and then released on a double-disc DVD Special Edition (This was told to me by Jon Tatum, assistant production coordinator)?
KW - I know nothing about that. It would be strange though...because it was made with a straight to video budget...although I have heard it might go to cable.

CS - You told me you were shooting on location for another film. Can you tell us what that film is, and what role you play in it?
KW - It is called "The Gallows Tree." It is a wonderful thriller and should be recieved very well. My character is a stuck up, spoiled, sorority girl brat.

CS - How was it working with Rob Spera?(NOTE TO SCHMOES: Rob Spera directed "Bloody Murder 2", as well as "Leprechaun In The Hood" and "Withcraft", among others.)
KW - Rob is wonderful. I learned so much working with him and I hope to work with him again in the future.

CS - How was it working with Tiffany Shepis?(NOTE TO SCHMOES: Tiffany Shepis stars in "Bloody Murder 2", and has starred in "Tromeo & Juliet" and "Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger Part 4" among others.)
KW - Tiffany is a great girl, one of the most fun people I have ever met!

CS - If you don't mind me saying, judging by from what I've seen of the film and the photos on Tiffany Shepis's website, you are extremely beautiful, and it's clear that Bloody Murder 2 will be a huge stepping stone for you to make a big name for yourself. What sort of films (if any) would you like to end up doing at some point in your life?
KW - Well, first off, thank you very much. I would like to make films with a message. Granted, I had alot of fun making BM2 but, you know when you watch a movie that changes your life, makes you re-evaluate or change your perspective. Films that you can't even speak as you're coming out of the theatre, because you are still so busy trying to absorb all of it. That is the type of project I would like to be involved in someday. The kind that make you wonder, dream, imagine, and think. I would also love to be in a position to help young, talented film makers realize their visions.

CS - What was it like acting with Kelly Gunning?(NOTE TO SCHMOES: Kelly Gunning plays Mike in "Bloody Murder 2" and played Clay in "MTV Undressed".)
KW - Kelly is fantastic. Intelligent, kind and wonderful, he has become one of my favorite people over the past year, after shooting.

CS - If Trevor Moorhouse is indeed in the film, did one person play him or was he played by multiple people, such as was the case in the original Bloody Murder?
KW - Trevor always insisted on playing himself...he even did all of his own stunts. Hehehehehehe

CS - How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
KW - Oh...come on... you can find that out on IMDB!

So there we have it, my fellow Bloody Murder Schmoes, an exclusive interview with the stunning Katy Woodruff. Katy, if you're reading this, I'd like to thank you very much for helping me out and granting me this excellent interview.

Well, what have we learned from this (for those who are too lazy to read it http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif)?

- "Bloody Murder 2" is another 'teens die one by one film'. Great news for us Bloody Murder fans.
- Katy Woodruff plays Katy Hathaway, Jason's brother, meaning we may finally know what happened to Jason at the end of BM1!
- BM2 is set in Camp Placid Pines again. None of this camp-swapping crap like in Friday The 13th!
- Trevor looks the same as he did in BM1!
- Katy knows nothing about the so-called theatrical release of Bloody Murder 2, or the 2-disc DVD. I have the feeling Jon Tatum was throwing me a curve, so to speak. It is likely, however, that it will be released on cable TV. This is good news for all you American schmoes, but not so good for me, living in Scotland. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif
- See "The Gallows Tree" when it's released.
- Katy Woodruff will be a legend one day, and when she wins an Oscar, she might mention me in her speech as her number one fan. (Hey, you never know...)

[This message has been edited by Scully1888 (edited 06-28-2002).]

Jason Voorhees
06-28-2002, 04:04 PM
Well, as I said earlier, I could do without a theatrical release, so that's good news to me.

Killer Klown#3
06-28-2002, 04:21 PM
It'll be fine with me if it is straight to video or cable.

The Claw
06-28-2002, 07:53 PM
Jebus, I really gotta see this Bloody Murder, but i dont know where it is to rent.

ominous_oat
06-29-2002, 04:38 PM
Just buy it Claw, I never regreted it myself. I've proudly watched it around 5 times now.

slasherfan
06-29-2002, 06:10 PM
Does the US Dvd really have a commentary, I was about to buy it when I was over there but it was $35 at Fye.
Is the commentary worth listening to, is it funny? Does Ralph make a fool of himself in it?

Scully1888
06-30-2002, 09:21 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
Does the US Dvd really have a commentary, I was about to buy it when I was over there but it was $35 at Fye.
Is the commentary worth listening to, is it funny? Does Ralph make a fool of himself in it?</font>

It does indeed have a commentary, but it's not worth $35 for the commentary alone.
Basically, the only real nuggets of info Ralphie gives us are that different people played Trevor (including Ralphie himself), and that there were a lot of rabbits going about.

I'll soon have a list of all trivia nuggets said in the commentary, quoting Ralph perfectly.

SykkBoy
06-30-2002, 03:07 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:

I'll soon have a list of all trivia nuggets said in the commentary, quoting Ralph perfectly.</font>

hahah, you are the master!
you should create a website of nothing but commentaries...I realize they take an enormous amount of time to do, but get yourself a good ad broker or sell some ad spots flat rate and make a few bucks while your at it too ;)))

slasherfan
07-01-2002, 12:55 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SykkBoy:
hahah, you are the master!
you should create a website of nothing but commentaries...I realize they take an enormous amount of time to do, but get yourself a good ad broker or sell some ad spots flat rate and make a few bucks while your at it too http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif))

</font>

Wow, you'll wind up making more then the movie did it'self.



[This message has been edited by slasherfan (edited 07-01-2002).]

XCoRyX
07-01-2002, 06:51 PM
just dropping by,and giving the old bump,but i must say i was surprised as i was flipping through the tv channels i came across the show charmed with rose mcgowan and alyssa milano and who did i see?none other then peter guillemete (sp?) who played the role of patrick in BM...he played a doctor who got possessed for a little bit,pretty stupid show but i had to watch his performance....

Scully1888
07-02-2002, 01:30 PM
Just thought I'd post my 1000th post here. It seems appropriate. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Andrew Tom
07-06-2002, 07:23 PM
I was just looking up Bloody Murder at IMDb(it's 2:30 am, don't ask me why I was there) and I saw that Scully hasn't put a review up there(or then I missed it). Help the poor people at IMDb that don't see the brilliance of this movie. Post a review.

Jason Voorhees
07-06-2002, 09:07 PM
Good idea, Andrew tom.

Alias
07-07-2002, 04:04 AM
Scully, what a great mind you have. You have kept me glues to the computer reading your in depth analysis!

I know we are all excited to hear what you have to say about BM2. I mean it's getting great reviews...from it's own cast! Maybe we should wait to see the movie before we say it's better than the original. Sure that wouldn't be hard. I am sure that the actors in the first one thought they were doing an ok job and just having fun filming a horror movie. I'll bet they were terrified when they saw the final version. Let's hope that doesn't happen to the actors of BM2. I know for a fact at least two of the cast from the original are good actors. Have you seen Jessica Morris, Julie, on One Life to Live lately. She is a lead and she is doing quite well. And your favorite, Whitney, Tracy Pacheco. Did you happen to catch her in Bring it On, or Undressed or any of her other films? I have. I am talking Hottie...with a capital H! I was also impressed with this chicks acting. I actually had to wait for the credits to make sure it was the same person. It was! Not exactly the Whitney we saw in BM. All I am saying is maybe we should see BM2 before we forget what brought us all together..Bloody Murder.

Good luck to the cast of BM2. I hope they don't curl up on the floor while watching their film, like I am sure the first actors did http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Requiem-for-a-Dream
07-07-2002, 02:00 PM
I'm very happy to see this thread is still alive. Great going Scully! You Rock!
I, for one, can't wait for the sequel. The first one sucked soooooooooo bad and I'm hoping the second one will be the same.

Matt

Mojo67821
07-15-2002, 05:38 PM
Hey guys...I haven't been around here in about 3 months or so. I was just wondering what was going on with this topic. Since I'd like to post anything scully does in the future on the site! Anyways...I don't have the time to read through like 6 pages of posts so I was wondering if anyone can catch me up to speed on where this bad boy is goin!

Jason Voorhees
07-15-2002, 06:18 PM
Welcome back, Mojo! We're currently awaiting both BM2 (Originally scheduled for a May 1st release; now it's up in the air, however) as well as some Bloody Murder Haiku's courtesy of the man himself, Scully.

Also, there have been interviews with some BM2 cast members, and some mirth by us schmoes as we posted glowingly positive reviews on the IMDB about BM 2; they were taken down, though.

That's about the gist of it.

someguy
07-16-2002, 11:44 AM
I'm bumping this topic back for it's last rights.

Jason Voorhees
07-16-2002, 05:52 PM
Will we see a sixteenth page?

The Claw
07-16-2002, 06:12 PM
let's hope. to keep it on topic, uh.. BLOODY MURDER ROCKS, even thought i havent seen it, but still if it's gotten 15 pages on a message board, it must be something "special"

bowieee
07-16-2002, 06:15 PM
Where is bm2?

I want my cheesy rip off fix.

BILL FIEND
07-17-2002, 06:00 PM
i havent seen BM yet because everywhere i read reviews they say its terrible....but i think i will rent it just because of this thread

SESSION999
07-17-2002, 10:00 PM
when is bloody murder 2 coming out?? i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Scully1888
07-20-2002, 03:50 PM
Sorry guys, I've been on holiday in London, and am using the raw power of a good old Internet Cafe.

I'll have the haikus done soon, there's just so much going on in my life at the moment.

Kaos
07-20-2002, 04:31 PM
Dude, they should have you do the directing for Bloody Murder 2. You seem to know more about it then anyone. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif


Rock and Roll!

http://www.westwoodi.net/~smilies/kao/otn/pdrums.gif

[This message has been edited by Kaos (edited 08-05-2002).]

XX
07-21-2002, 09:47 PM
Great analysis Scully, this is truly a hilarious film. I only wish this interminable wait for BM2 would end soon!

Jewbo
08-05-2002, 04:09 AM
just thought id bump this up with my 1000TH post.

Party at my place!!!!!!!!!!!

XCoRyX
08-05-2002, 04:47 AM
Damn,still no news on BM2.

Jason Voorhees
08-05-2002, 08:22 AM
Yeah, I, too, am wondering what the hell happened to it? It was supposed to have been released over four months ago...

Jason Lives
08-05-2002, 11:03 PM
In all seriousness why would anyone make a Bloody Murder 2?

Jason Voorhees
08-06-2002, 09:36 AM
lol.. To.. make.. money...


LOL!! Sorry, It took all my aplomb to type that.. but Why else make a sequel? Either that or a lot of microcephalics work at Artisan..

Jason Lives
08-07-2002, 01:10 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Voorhees:
lol.. To.. make.. money...


LOL!! Sorry, It took all my aplomb to type that.. but Why else make a sequel? Either that or a lot of microcephalics work at Artisan..</font>


lol did Bloody Murder make any money? i don't know because none of my video stores have it

Jason Voorhees
08-07-2002, 02:40 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Lives:

lol did Bloody Murder make any money? i don't know because none of my video stores have it</font>

I guess It must have. Unfortunately, I don't know for sure. But considering the film's budget, it may have recouped a profit.

Have you seen the first BM? Just curious because you said it was a bit difficult to find in your area.

Scully1888
08-07-2002, 03:03 AM
That's true Jason.

Because the majority of the budget was probably spent on Moorhouse's stunning outfit (which what have probably cost about a buck, buck-fifty), this meant that one single purchase of the DVD would gain them their profits back, and a second would double them.

Now, seeing as I own the UK DVD, US DVD and the UK VHS, I'm pretty much a fuckin shareholder. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jason Voorhees
08-07-2002, 03:56 AM
Exactly what I was getting at, Scully :). I mean, just four video stores ordering a copy must've easily brought back the film's budget AND that of the sequel's, too...

XCoRyX
08-07-2002, 07:56 AM
haha,in all seriousness...it most likely did make its budget back,it probably had a full moon type budget,and my blockbuster had like 4 copies,and they were rented out quite too much if i can say,and im thinking people just wanted to give it a try and see if it was as bad as it sounded/looked...

Scully1888
08-07-2002, 12:44 PM
Just thought I'd hit reply number SIX-OH-OH myself...

And just to tell you all - I'm currently working on the...

BLOODY MURDER COMMENTARY IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS!!

Yes, every word spoken by Ralph Portillo in the film's commentary track, along with my personal thoughts!

Should I post it in this topic, or create a new one?

Jason Voorhees
08-07-2002, 01:06 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:

Should I post it in this topic, or create a new one?</font>

Well, personally, I would love to see this thread persevere... That's just my opinion, though.

countchocula
08-07-2002, 01:29 PM
Some people may have stopped checking in on this thread, so you may want to create a brand spankin' new one to get everyone's undivided attention. Plus, it just feels right to start another thread, to open a second chapter, if you will. I can’t wait for it! I wonder how Pordillo defends his “art” on the commentary track.

Kaos
08-07-2002, 01:48 PM
Nah, keep it streamlined Scully. Post it here.

Rock and Roll!

http://www.uniquehardware.co.uk/server-smilies/kao/otn/pdrums.gif

Jason Voorhees
08-07-2002, 01:49 PM
Good points, Count. I'm ruminant, though: would starting a new BM analysis thread negate the need for this one? Can we risk losing all this BM history?

This thread is legendary; I'd hate to see it go down. Then again, Nothing lasts forever...

Tough call, Scully.

Scully1888
08-07-2002, 05:50 PM
How about I post a new topic on the board telling people that it's getting made, and then linking to this one, so people will start to check this one again?

The Claw
08-07-2002, 05:54 PM
Yes do that, this is one of the few non movie game fourms that got 16 damn pages on it. It's a great history for a movie i still need to see(im working on it damnit)

so do that or whatever, it's your choice.

Jason Lives
08-08-2002, 12:08 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Voorhees:


Have you seen the first BM? Just curious because you said it was a bit difficult to find in your area. </font>

No unfortunately I've never seen this movie but from what I've heard from this post it's definitely on the top of my to see list

[This message has been edited by Jason Lives (edited 08-08-2002).]

Stefan
08-08-2002, 05:11 AM
DAMN! For a film that is suppose to be crappy, possibbly one of the worst horror films of all time, this film sure is getting a lot of attention through responses to this topic. Not that I have a problem with this. Just an observation. So was this film really that bad to be given so much attention to? Bad as in it is so utterly boring it either gives you a serious headache or really wants to put you to sleep from boredom? Or is it like a Trauma bad? Like the kind of bad that was used to great effect in the Toxic Avenger? IF the answer is like a kind of bad that is so darn entertaining and funny then maybe I need to rent this film at Blockbuster. Stefan's out.

countchocula
08-08-2002, 10:15 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stefan:
So was this film really that bad to be given so much attention to? Bad as in it is so utterly boring it either gives you a serious headache or really wants to put you to sleep from boredom?</font>

YES

Scully1888
08-08-2002, 12:37 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Stefan:
So was this film really that bad to be given so much attention to? Bad as in it is so utterly boring it either gives you a serious headache or really wants to put you to sleep from boredom?</font>

NO

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif Read at least a bit of my analysis on the first page, and you'll see that it's more like "Bad, as in oh my God, that is so shit, hahahahahahahahahaha. Mehhhhhhhhh. Oh look, he's got shit on his pants."

countchocula
08-08-2002, 01:48 PM
Well, I guess it could be laughed at, but mockery is only enjoyable when with peers. I wouldn't advise watching it alone. Not even Scully's in-depth analysis inspired me to rent it again.

XX
08-09-2002, 06:50 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by countchocula:
Well, I guess it could be laughed at, but mockery is only enjoyable when with peers. I wouldn't advise watching it alone. Not even Scully's in-depth analysis inspired me to rent it again.</font>


Well said, Alone and sober, This film will bore you to tears. The acting, directing, and murders are so flat and devoid of substance that boredom will usually ensue within moments of viewing.

However with the right prerequisites, You can have a lot of fun with this one. Printing out Scully's brilliant Analysis would be a good ''first step'' idea If you are considering viewing this film.


[This message has been edited by XX (edited 08-09-2002).]

Scully1888
08-09-2002, 12:07 PM
It depends who you are.

I did my whole analysis while alone and sober, and I managed to find so much shit in that that I was pissing myself laughing.

XX
08-10-2002, 04:38 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
It depends who you are.

I did my whole analysis while alone and sober, and I managed to find so much shit in that that I was pissing myself laughing.</font>

I stand corrected http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

TooL
08-19-2002, 01:42 AM
~bump~

lol looking forward to the commentary man.

Scully1888
08-19-2002, 02:33 AM
On its way, TooL.

This one won't take as long, due to the many periods of prolonged and embarassed silence. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jewbo
08-19-2002, 12:07 PM
i say post it in here. i cant wait for this.

Jason Voorhees
08-19-2002, 05:20 PM
Indeed, I'm eagerly awaiting this...

Gregorious8
08-20-2002, 03:50 AM
I can't wait until I read the commentary. I'm really in need of a couple of good laughs.

Scully1888
08-20-2002, 01:46 PM
Bad news, guys.

My fucking DVD player broke down with the DVD inside it!!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/eek.gif

I really don't kow what to do, this is pissing me off so much... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

I still have the UK "Scream Bloody Murder" and my DVD-ROM drive, but the DVD-ROM drive on my PC is shite and, more importantly, the UK "Scream Bloody Murder" doesn't have commentary!

&lt;sigh&gt; as of now, the commentary analysis is on a temporary (and I stress TEMPORARY) hiatus, until I get my fucking player fixed and get the fixer guy to force the US Bloody Murder disc from its hard plastic/metal jaws.

countchocula
08-20-2002, 05:02 PM
My condolences to you and your sickly DVD player. I hate it when technology just decides to quit operating for no apparent reason. Whenever my computer's on the fritz, I'm driven to skin small children! I've just recently had the unsettling realization that humanity is far too dependent upon technology. Oops, off-topic! Scully, can you at least post what you have so far of your commentary analysis? Just something to tide us over...

belial1134
08-20-2002, 05:51 PM
Ok I can't go thru 16 pages looking for this - but has anyone commented on Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp ? It came out this year.
-Belial.

Jason Voorhees
08-20-2002, 09:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by countchocula:
I've just recently had the unsettling realization that humanity is far too dependent upon technology. </font>

lol. I had similar thoughts yesterday as I endured a short period of time without electricity...

ominous_oat
08-20-2002, 09:56 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by belial1134:
Ok I can't go thru 16 pages looking for this - but has anyone commented on Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp ? It came out this year.
-Belial.</font>

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! *more insane laughter* sorry about that, yes there are about 4 to 5 possibly 6 pages (but that's pushing it) about Bloody Murder 2 within this topic, look for them thought because they're funny as hell. But yeah it's been delayed, so it probably isn't out quite yet, I can't wait for it to be though!

The Claw
08-20-2002, 10:45 PM
OAT!! YOUR BACK


welcome back dude.

Jason Voorhees
08-21-2002, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I reiterate what Claw said: welcome back man!

Belial, around page 5 or 6 I believe is about when the BM2 chatting begins. Hope you find something.

belial1134
08-21-2002, 01:16 PM
Thank you, guys.
Normally I do look thru the threads pretty carefully, but 16 pages ...wowzers!

By the way, for some who have been here a long time , has there ever been any one movie that had a thread as long as Bloody Murder? If so which flick(s)?

Thanks,
-Belial.

Jason Voorhees
08-21-2002, 01:27 PM
You're welcome, Belial.

I don't now if any movie has had a thread as long as this one; I certainly can't remember one...

countchocula
08-21-2002, 04:01 PM
This is, without a doubt, the longest thread in the annals of Arrow history to be devoted to a single film. However, if you click on over to the Movie Guessing Games Forum, you're bound to come across threads that are 50-60 pages long!

slasherfan
08-21-2002, 07:40 PM
Some Bloody Murder 2 news here.

Scully1888
08-22-2002, 02:38 AM
This was posted 3 months ago (on 5/17/02):

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
Okay here's the news.

I was speaking to Jon Tatum and he told me that he couldn't tell me a lot about plot and such in the film because... it's been delayed.

Not all bad news, however. It's been delayed because of the possibilities of... A THEATRICAL RELEASE!

Here's an extract from our conversation (Jon if you're reading this, hope you don't mind):

SCULLY1888 says: hows it going?
Jon says: pretty good, how about you?
SCULLY1888 says: yeah, not abd
SCULLY1888 says: *bad
SCULLY1888 says: extremely tired, the usual
Jon says: long night?
SCULLY1888 says: yeah, you could say that
Jon says: any beer involved?
SCULLY1888 says: nah, i don't drink
SCULLY1888 says: long story
Jon says: oh, ok
Jon says: drama
SCULLY1888 says: yeah
SCULLY1888 says: could be a potential Bloody murder 3 sub-plot
Jon says: ya, i'm sure they'll see how BM2 does before they make that
SCULLY1888 says: yeah, no doubt
Jon says: as it turns out, i can't tell you anything about the film because they got a buyer and will release it to cinemas hopefully around the fall
SCULLY1888 says: seriousl? It's coming to theaters?
Jon says: ya, who knew. i guess the buyers loved it
SCULLY1888 says: that's... weird
SCULLY1888 says: So is that some kind of legal agreement then, that you can't discuss it?
Jon says: i was told it's been sold for foreign markets too and should be heading to the UK first, then some other ares
Jon says: yes, they don't want any further plot points released or anything
SCULLY1888 says: ah
SCULLY1888 says: can you at least confirm that Trevor Moorhouse will be in it?
Jon says: well, it wouldn't be a bloody murder film without him
SCULLY1888 says: true
Jon says: other than that, i can't go into it as far as plot or special fx
SCULLY1888 says: ok, that's cool
SCULLY1888 says: I already know that there's a slit throat
Jon says: but i guess they're doing a 35mm blow up of the 16mm and everything
SCULLY1888 says: yeah
Jon says: there's also a 2 disc deluxe dvd in the process of being made
SCULLY1888 says: that seems too good to be true
SCULLY1888 says: seriously?
Jon says: well, i guess there aren't any good horror films coming out anytime so they figured they had the market
SCULLY1888 says: yeah
SCULLY1888 says: so when could it be released in cinemas?
SCULLY1888 says: I mean, what with Halloween 8's July release that would be a bad time to do it
Jon says: well, that's not been determined yet, it may either get pushed to around halloween or maybe end of summer just to cash in on people going to the movies in teh summer
SCULLY1888 says: yeah
SCULLY1888 says: well, that's good news I guess
SCULLY1888 says: the delay's a bit annoying however
Jon says: yes, i know
SCULLY1888 says: so that means it'll be out in the UK, straight-to-video, before it gets released in the US?
Jon says: no, i wouldn't count on it
SCULLY1888 says: oh
SCULLY1888 says: ok
Jon says: the only way it'll get to the UK first is if someone finds a copy to bootleg and converts it to PAL
SCULLY1888 says: yeah
SCULLY1888 says: hope that doesn't happen

So there you have it - straight from the Assistant Production Coordinator's mouth. And before anyone thinks he's a fraud, I did some checking out and got some proof - he's the real thing, trust me.</font>

This was on creature-corner.com yesterday:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER... AGAIN
Here's something a tad on the unexpected side...

I got an e-mail today from a man by the name of Trevor Moorhouse, who just so happens to be one of the producers on the upcoming sequel to...'Bloody Murder'. He decided to let us know the good news before anyone else.

I know, you're thinking that the only possible good news regarding 'Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp' would be that it was not getting made. Too late for that, it's already done. It was even set for a direct-to-video release back in April, but the distributors apparently felt it "too violent" to have their name attached. Hmm....that or it was crap...

Anyway, someone seemed to think it was pretty damn good, because the distributors (no name given) have decided to release it theatrically next year for a short time. That means arthouse and smaller cinemas in New York and LA, most likely, but that's not too bad for what was supposed to be a direct-to-video sequel to a direct-to-video movie.

Moorhouse assured me that, after seeing the crap that the first one was, they decided to take it in a better direction. Full of lots of gooey death and yummy nudity is what I've been told, and they're even managing to get an NC-17 rating.

I'll dig up some more on this just to make sure it's all legit, but for now...
</font>

That's right... your analyst got you Schmoes that news 3 months before it hit any website - BLOODY MURDER 2 is coming to cinemas! And it's a fucking NC-17!

[This message has been edited by Scully1888 (edited 08-29-2002).]

Jason Voorhees
08-22-2002, 09:31 AM
Thanks, Scully That sounds...so improbable... How can this be?

The Claw
08-22-2002, 10:13 AM
Wow. I am so shocked.

Jason Voorhees
08-23-2002, 02:31 PM
BUMP. This topic is gonna endure, goddamnit...

:).

APzombie
08-23-2002, 10:12 PM
The day a bloody murder can hit theaters NC-17 for that matter will be the friggin day that... ah, shit, flying pigs have a better chance than that...

TooL
08-24-2002, 12:15 AM
...

I hope it hits Philly http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Scully1888
08-29-2002, 02:19 AM
While I'm still working on this commentary thing (just got my DVD player fixed! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif), I thought I'd let you American (and I suppose, all non-UK) Schmoes see how good you've actually got it.

Your Bloody Murder box looks like this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004UE5V.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

...whereas the UK one, which I have to show people and say "do you want to watch this, it's hilarious and gets me a look saying "that's gay, and therefore so are you" every single fucking time, looks like this:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TIXY.02.LZZZZZZZ

It shouldn't actually have an 18 rating on it, maybe it does because of amazon's internet rules or something, but my version is a 15 which, if it were a rating in the US, would probably be called NC-15. Basically it means that NOBODY under the age of 15 is allowed to see it, due to, and I quote from the back of the box:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The VPRC guide at the back of Scream Bloody Murder:
THEME/CONTENTS - Horror/Murder/Chainsaws
BAD LANGUAGE - Frequent
SEX/NUDITY - Moderate
VIOLENCE - Frequent/Strong
</font>

Uh... what? What fucking film did YOU watch? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Here's my take on it.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Scully1888's version of the Scream Bloody Murder guide:
THEME/CONTENTS - Comedy, Medical Inaccuracy, Chainsaws
BAD LANGUAGE - Twice, mild
SEX/NUDITY - One dry hump and unnecessary showing of leg
VIOLENCE - Occasional/Comical
</font>

Oh, and for those of you desperate to hear what it says on the back of the box, here we go:

Planning on a summer filled with fun and romance at the remote Placid Pines Camp, nothing can prepare a group of young students for the terror-filled encounters ahead of them.

Following in the camp tradition the first night is spent playing a spooky game called 'Bloody Murder'. Thrills by the camp fire soon turn into the students worst nightmare as they begin to disappear one by one.

The students fight for their lives and attempt to solve the mystery before falling prey to an evil killer.

Feel free to post your own takes on this, but here's my version:

Planning on a summer filled with false lesbianism and dry-humping at the remote Placid Pines Camp, nothing can prepare a group of middle-aged students for the mirth-filled encounters ahead of them.

Following in the tradition of the terrible script the first night is spent playing a confusing game called 'Bloody Murder'. Thrills by the camp fire soon turn into the viewers' worst nightmare as they begin to fall asleep one by one.

The viewers fight for consciousness and attempt to solve the mystery of the hidden remote before falling prey to an evil Portillo.

Analysis coming reasonably soon...

Jason Voorhees
08-29-2002, 12:11 PM
Good synopsis, Scully.

Oh, and that UK cover is lame as hell.

Jewbo
08-29-2002, 12:22 PM
i have that very uk version 2 and lookin 2 the left of me at this very second i cant see it in my dvd collection. hmm i think ive lost it http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Jewbo
08-29-2002, 12:43 PM
any1 notice all the reviews r gone from imdb for bloody murder 2?????? weird.

The Claw
08-29-2002, 12:59 PM
Yeah, they were all faked and the IMDb found out, oh well.

slasherfan
08-29-2002, 01:11 PM
Planning on a summer filled with snores and rejection at the remote Placid Pines Camp, nothing can prepare a group of young bad actors for the script ahead of them.

Following in the camp tradition the first night is spent playing a boring game called 'Bloodless Murder'. Thrills by the camp fire are no where to be found. Soon the actors worst nightmare turns real as they realise they are under a contract and can't back out.

The actors fight for their career and attempt to solve the mystery of the lack of script and talent before falling prey to DTV HELL!

Scully1888
08-29-2002, 01:16 PM
LOL, nice one slasherfan.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to rat on you and tell all my fellow Schmoes that the e-mail recently sent to www.creature-corner.com (http://www.creature-corner.com) by a man calling himself "Trevor Moorhouse" was actually slasherfan.

turns out there is NO theatrical run for Bloody Murder 2 and that it is NOT going to be NC-17.

[This message has been edited by Scully1888 (edited 08-29-2002).]

slasherfan
08-29-2002, 01:26 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
LOL, nice one slasherfan.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to rat on you and tell all my fellow Schmoes that the e-mail recently sent to www.creature-corner.com (http://www.creature-corner.com) by a man calling himself "Trevor Moorhouse" was actually slasherfan.

turns out there is NO theatrical run for Bloody Murder 2 and that it is NOT going to be NC-17. </font>

SCULLY, YOU SNITCH &gt;:-( Slasher thinks CC gonna kick my butt http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif


[This message has been edited by slasherfan (edited 08-29-2002).]

countchocula
08-29-2002, 02:13 PM
LOL! You had me going, dude! I actually thought that BM2 was going to be rated NC-17! Man, I'm too fucking gullible!

Jewbo
08-29-2002, 02:39 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Claw:
Yeah, they were all faked and the IMDb found out, oh well.</font>

good job i say!

Jason Voorhees
08-29-2002, 02:46 PM
Well, that was pretty implausible. I'm happy, though. Hopefully, it'll mean a shorter wait for BM2.

Gregorious8
09-01-2002, 04:07 AM
Just a little bump

Scully1888
09-01-2002, 12:32 PM
Bad news, Schmoes.

It seems that, according to imdb.com, Bloody Murder 2: Closing Camp won't be out until April 2003.

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

slasherfan
09-01-2002, 12:51 PM
Hey, check THIS out.
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=360

Jewbo
09-01-2002, 04:03 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
Hey, check THIS out.
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=360</font>

yeah u started off a lie. ha ha great stuff.

slasherfan
09-01-2002, 05:23 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
Ok guys, here is a little something I wrote, I dunno how you guys will like it, while reading it, think of it as being written by Ralph Pordildo and that he is going to make a serious movie out of it. I may write more, depending on what you guys thing, be gentel.


BLOODY MURDER 3:
RETURN OF TREVOR MOORHOUSE

INT: WOODS DAY: It’s pitch black, we pull back to see a tree, we are in the woods, it’s a warm sunny day, and the birds can be heard all around. PETER, a tall, brown haired, blue eyed 23 year old walks by us with his blonde, middle sized, blue eyed girlfriend SARAH. We follow the two as the both head towards a clearing in the centre of the woods. Peter is carrying a picnic basket while Sarah carries a blanket. The two reach the clearing, Sarah puts the blanket down.

SARAH

What a perfect day for a picnic.

PETER

You bet yeah.

SARAH

Sing for me Peter, you’re a gifted
Singer, bet in the class.

PETER

Maybe later. I’ll sing romance.

Sarah looks over at a sign on a tree, on it are the words CAMP PLACID PINES, the words PLACID PINES are crossed out and MURDER is replaced, the sign reads CAMP MURDER. Sarah gets the shivers.

SARAH

Peter; look at that sign over there
You don’t think it has anything to
Do with Trevor Moorhouse do you?

PETER

No Sarah, Trevor Moorhouse is only
A legend, that’s it, try not to worry.

SARAH (Scared)

I do try but his name alone strikes
Fear right into my heart.

Sarah is uneasy, she seems sort of scared.

PETER

His name sends shivers down my spine
But don’t worry babe, I’m here now
And I love you, I’ll protect you if
That hockey masked, chainsaw wielding
Psycho comes out here.

Sarah smiles, she feels safe. She unzips the zipper on her jeans.

SARAH

You want to go for it?

PETER

I love you baby YEAH!

Excited, Peter undoes his zipper and jumps on top of Sarah. There is a buzzing sound from the trees.

SARAH (pushing Peter off)

What was that?

PETER

I dunno babe, sounded like a swarm of bees
Nothing to worry about, here, help me get
It in.

Sarah rolls her eyes and lets out a playful laugh and gives Peter a playful punch.

PETER

Ouch, that hurt; hey help me out here,
I really can’t get it.. oh there we go.

Suddenly, a twig snaps behind the couple, Peter looks up and sees TREVOR MOORHOUSE, wearing blue overalls and a hockey mask, Peter jumps up and backs up against a tree, a wet patch appears in his jeans.

PETER

Trevor Moorhouse.

SARAH

Oh my God! Peter save me.

PETER

Screw that!

Peter turns around and runs off, leaving Sarah alone, Sarah gets up.

SARAH (pleading)

Please don’t kill me; I’ll do what ever
You like, I’ll have sex with you.

Trevor puts his hand into his pocket and pulls out A NAIL FILE, it glimmers in the sun. He throws the nail file at Sarah, it strikes her in the cleavage and the force pulls her back, she hits a tree and gets pinned to it. Sarah cries, coughs and splutters, then dies. A bit of the nail file can be seen sticking out of her cleavage. Trevor looks at his work and looks up.
CUT TO:
Peter is zig zagging around trees, heading towards the road, panic stricken.
CUT TO:
Trevor walking speedily through the woods, whacking branches out of his way with his chainsaw.
CUT TO:
Peter stops, he looks up, the road is ten feet away, he looks behind him, and Trevor is twenty-five feet away from him.

PETER

I’ll never make it!

Peter begins to climb the tree beside him.
CUT TO:
Trevor is still walking speedily towards Peter, swinging his chainsaw around, bashing branches out of the way, SUDDENLY Trevor falls to the ground, frailing his arms in the air as he goes down. He drops his chainsaw, he looks down at his feet, Trevor has slipped in dog shit, it’s all over his shoe and the back of his trousers. He shakes his head and gets up. He starts speedily walking after Peter again. Trevor is now at the tree Peter is up. Trevor looks up and sees Peter; he tries to climb up but finds it hard with his chainsaw hand. Peter sees Trevor and begins to panic, Trevor is slowly getting up the tree, and then there is a sudden ringing sound.

PETER

Oh thank God.

Peter puts his hand in his pocket and pulls out his cell phone.

PETER

I forgot I had this, I’m saved.

Peter throws the ringing phone at Trevor, the phone SMACKS Trevor on the head and shatters to pieces. Trevor loses his grip on the tree and falls off to the ground. He gets up and looks out at Peter, he clenches his fist and shakes it angrily at Peter, suddenly a shoe SMACKS Trevor right on the hockey mask, he falls to the ground. Dazed Trevor starts whacking at the tree with his chainsaw, he is pretty pissed off. Up in the tree Peter starts laughing at Trevor, swinging around the branch.

PETER

Ha, ha, loser, you can’t get me!

Suddenly there is a cracking sound.

PETER

Oh Poodle poop!

The branch CRACKS and snaps, sending Peter falling towards the ground. Trevor smiles and holds his chainsaw up for Peter to land on, Peter falls and missed the chainsaw, he lands on top of Trevor. The two fall to the ground, Peter, rolls over and tries to run, his ankle is sprained, he tries to crawl away, Trevor stands up and walks towards Peter

PETER (In slow motion)

Noooo Please don’t kill me, I’ll do
Anything, I’ll sing for you.

Trevor advanced, Peter pulls his other shoe off and throws it at Trevor, and it whacks him on the mask, Trevor, goes back a little but doesn’t fall.

PETER (Singing in normal motion)

There you are, like a throbbing star!

Trevor raises his chainsaw. We close in on his mask, Peter starts shaking his head in slow motion, and we close in on his face.

PETER (In slow motion)

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Trevor brings the chainsaw down, slicing Peter’s neck open, a bit of blood drips out as Peter holds the wound.
FADE TO BLACK

TITLE CARD: BLOODY MURDER 3: THE REVENGE OF TREVOR MOORHOUSE
</font>

I decided to give it another bash, in my opinion, this part isn't very good, what do you guys think?? This is the next part to the story.

FADE IN: Daytime, a car is driving down the road. Inside the car JULIE begins to talk.

JULIE

Jackson, how much farther until we reach
Camp Placid Pines?

Jackson, the driver turns in his seat and answers.

JACKSON

I think another twenty miles.

Jackson turns to the person in the passenger’s side who is holding the map.

JACKSON

Isn’t that right Drew?

Drew puts down the map.

DREW

Yeah about that.

Beside Julie there is a boy named Mitchell Mayers.

MITCHELL

Wow, are all the pines in this camp
Placid?

Everyone in the cars bursts into fits of laughter. Jackson is laughing so hard he jerks the wheel and loses control of the car. The car swerves out of control, it swerves onto the wrong side of the road where a black cat is standing, the bumper smacks the cat, the cat rolls under the car. Jackson slams down on the breaks. Julie looks out the back window and sees the cat trying to get up.

JULIE

Aw, the poor thing is still alive, Jackson
We should do something.

JACKSON

Ok, I think I know what you mean.

Jackson slams the car into reverse and flattens the kitty, Julie and Drew let out horrified screams, and Jackson then drives over the cat again.

JACKSON

There you go.

JULIE

I wanted you to get the cat and
Bring it in here you idiot.

JACKSON

Oh, sorry.

Jackson gets out of the car.

JULIE

What’s he doing?

MITCHELL

I don’t know, he’s your boyfriend.

The door beside Julie opens and Jackson throws the mangled carcass of the cat onto her lap.

JACKSON

There you go.

Julie lets out a big scream and jumps out of the car; the dead cat falls to the ground.

JULIE

You idiot!

Julie slaps Jackson across the face.

JACKSON

What did I do?

MITCHELL

Hey I see a video store ahead, lets see if they have the amazing Fever Lake

The two of them get back into the car.

CUT TO: TOWN- VIDEO STORE.
The four are wondering around the video store. Mitchell is in the horror section with Jackson.

MITCHELL

Look at this, if it’s not a Halloween rip
Off it’s a Friday The 13th rip off, why can’t
Movies be more original for once?

JACKSON

I know what you mean, come on we are wasting are
Time here, they don’t have ONE copy of Fever Lake
It’s all booked out, we better get back to hitting the road.

Julie walks up to the counter. The clerk turns around, it’s Arnold Swartzenagger.

JULIE

Oh my God!

ARNOLD

Hello little girl.

JULIE

Why are you working here?

ARNOLD

After Collateral Damaged bombed big time I became
A washed up has been, now I am a video store geek.

MITCHELL

What smells like shit?

ARNOLD

Shut up little boy or I shall crush you.

JACKSON

Wow look who the manager is, it’s Mr. T

A blonde haired boy gives a video up to Mr. T.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

Sorry, this video is a day late.

MR.T

I pity the fool who returns a movie late.

BLONDE BOY

I’ll pay the late fee.

Mr. T grabs the boys’ head and slams it against the counter.

MR. T

It’s all about the principle bitch.

The boy gets up crying and runs away.

MITCHELL

We couldn’t find the amazing Fever Lake, we better get back on our way to camp.

DREW

You’re right, where is my crowbar?

MITCHELL

What you need that for?

JACKSON

We need it to squeeze her fat arse into the car door.

Mitchell bursts into laughter.

JACKSON

I wasn’t joking.

CUT TO: MIDDLE OF THE FOREST, DAY.
The Blonde haired boy is walking home, unaware that he is being watched. Passing by a tree he pushes a branch out of the way and stands there for a second thinking.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

Which is the way home again?

Slowly a figure sneaks up on the boy, it’s Trevor Moorhouse, he has a knife in his right hand, he is right behind the boy now, and he raises the knife.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

I remember, it’s that way.

The boy walks forwards, releasing the branch he was holding onto, it swings and bashes Trevor on the hockey mask, he goes flying back. The boy walks onwards. Trevor gets up, he is angry, he begins to follow the boy. He steps on a twig, it makes a snapping sound, and the boy turns around.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY (face of fear)

T-T-T-Trevor Moorhouse. I want me mammy.

The boy turns around and begins to run away, Trevor raises the knife and aims it for the boys back and throws it. The boy is running in a straight line, the knife manages to miss by at least fifteen feet and sticks into a tree. Trevor hands his head in shame, starts up the chainsaw and begins to chase, steps in dog pooh and slips up again, flooring himself. He gets up and resumes chasing the boy. The boy is at least twenty feet ahead of Trevor; he decides to jump into a bush to hide. Trevor runs up, stops beside the bush and begins looking around, suddenly the boy farts, and Trevor looks towards the bush and begins walking towards it.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

Um… Mooooo… mooooooo.

The mooing convinces Trevor that a cow is in the bush. Trevor turns around; the boy lets out a sneeze. Trevor heads towards the bush again.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

Um… I’m a Shark.

Trevor shrugs his shoulders, he turns around and is about to walk off when he realises that Sharks can’t talk. Upset and angry at being tricked, he rushes towards the bush and shoves his chainsaw into it. The boy screams and runs out of the bush. Trevor picks up a stone and launches it at the boy, it strikes him on the head, the boy stumbles forwards and manages to fall into a branch sticking out of a tree, and he impales himself in it.

BLONDE HAIRED BOY

Help me.

Trevor walks away, letting the boy die, as he walks away he realises sharks don’t live on land that live in the sea.

Scully1888
09-02-2002, 02:33 AM
Nice one slash, keep it going!

I'm interested to see what happens to Mr Moorhouse next!

Scully1888
09-02-2002, 04:26 PM
By the way Schmoes, keep your eyes on the Past Horror Movies forum over the next couple of days... I've been working on a little secret project... mwa ha haa.

slasherfan
09-02-2002, 04:43 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
By the way Schmoes, keep your eyes on the Past Horror Movies forum over the next couple of days... I've been working on a little secret project... mwa ha haa.</font>

Scully is going to reveal that he was really Ralph Pordildo all along.

The Claw
09-02-2002, 04:50 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
Scully is going to reveal that he was really Ralph Pordildo all along.

</font>

I KNEW IT

Scully1888
09-02-2002, 05:18 PM
Nah, I wish.

Hopefully it'll be better than that.

Again, and I quote, mwa ha haa.

slasherfan
09-02-2002, 06:12 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
Nah, I wish.
</font>

I repeat.. you WISH????!!!!

Jason Voorhees
09-02-2002, 08:55 PM
Ralph Pordildo? Now, that would rock!

lol.

Jewbo
09-02-2002, 09:30 PM
cant wait scully no dobt its gona be summin else of superb quality from the master of bloody murder.

bowieee
09-02-2002, 10:38 PM
17 pages. *sniff* My how has this thread grown up. Soon it will turn the big 18. Im getting all chocked up inside *sob* http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif
Lay the super secret project on us scully. I cant wait!

Jewbo
09-02-2002, 10:49 PM
its also not far off 666 posts. wonder who will get the 666th????

slasherfan
09-02-2002, 11:04 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
mwa ha haa.</font>

I hope scully isn't writing a bloody murder story with us Schmoes in it http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif.... humm, that gives me and idea....

Jason Voorhees
09-03-2002, 01:39 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
I hope scully isn't writing a bloody murder story with us Schmoes in it http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif.... humm, that gives me and idea....

</font>

I'll get in contact with some film companies... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif.



[This message has been edited by Jason Voorhees (edited 09-03-2002).]

Scully1888
09-03-2002, 02:00 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by slasherfan:
I hope scully isn't writing a bloody murder story with us Schmoes in it http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif.... humm, that gives me and idea....
</font>

Now THERE's an idea...

Sadly, it isn't that. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

By the way, as this is the 665th reply, that makes this post number 666!

Who will get reply number 666?

Jason Voorhees
09-03-2002, 02:04 AM
I guess it will be...me.

TooL
09-03-2002, 02:07 AM
Hmmmm..

What are you plotting SCULLY!

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Jason Voorhees
09-04-2002, 06:06 AM
Now we know http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif. I need to see one of these Camp Blood films..

spacemonkey
09-04-2002, 01:10 PM
Hey Scully I finally saw Bloody Murder dude! And Ive been reading your thread, now it makes a whole lot more sense. More sense then the ending of the movie did anyways. Heh.. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif nice Job there Scully, you mustve gone through hell doing it, and the results were great! Thanx, and the movie was funny as hell!

I read your thread After I saw it, so now that I know all about these mistakes, I think I want to rent it again. ha! So youll be responsible for making me endure this film twice!

Space Out.

TooL
09-08-2002, 09:42 PM
Just bumping this. For those who haven't read the Camp Blood 2 Analysis, (THE SHAME)Scully said the Analysis with the Commentary is coming..

Romero&Juliet
09-17-2002, 08:22 PM
bump.... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Jewbo
09-29-2002, 11:27 PM
wots happened 2 scully!!!!! y does his profile say no longer with us????? whats goin on???/ aggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

Kaos
09-29-2002, 11:50 PM
Scully did something VERY bad and was Baned from the board. No, I don't know what it was, so don't ask. JoBlo said that he did something wrong, admitted to it, and was removed from the boards. R.I.P. Scully you gave me a lot of help on the boards so a somewhat belated thanks is in order. Thanks dude!

Jewbo
10-01-2002, 06:20 PM
y wud he do summin bad? he loved this place. wot the hell was it?

Horror_Fanatic
10-01-2002, 07:02 PM
Hey guys. I know that it's hard to resist, but we need to keep to the topic, and no, the creator of the thread doesn't count as "on topic." Thanks guys.

Scully1888
10-11-2002, 07:19 AM
Just thought I'd bump this whore and let you schmoes know the commentary analysis has come on in leaps and bounds during my brief hiatus, and it's now at the 75 minute stage.

The Claw
10-11-2002, 09:45 AM
i am seeing what i think im seeing

it's scully1888's ghost!!!

:D

i'm lookin forward to it scully.

Jason Voorhees
10-11-2002, 10:06 AM
Hell yeah! It's good to be back in business :).

Let's bask in all things Bloody Murder, shall we?

Kaos
10-11-2002, 11:53 AM
Scully? It's... it's... it's... you? He's baaaaaaaaack! Good to see ya again dude!

Jewbo
10-11-2002, 11:07 PM
yes he is back. it is a great day indeed.

Jason Voorhees
10-12-2002, 12:22 AM
This thing has reached 18 pages... Amazing :).

slasherfan
10-12-2002, 04:09 PM
Yeah! Scully's BACK But this time Someone is waiting

Andrew Tom
10-13-2002, 08:27 AM
I just looked at the Bloody Murder page at IMDb(don't ask me why) and it seems that Bloody Murder is off the bottom 100 list...

joelc
10-13-2002, 03:13 PM
I remember when this was posted... It got me to rent this piece of crap... But damn it, that was an hilarious movie. I must have post in it under my old username.

Scully1888
12-01-2002, 07:05 AM
Remember this? :D

Just thought I'd bump that beast to tell you all that my Bloody Murder Ralph Portillo DVD Commentary Analysis is nearly finished (I had shitloads of problems with it, including a virus that caused me to reformat my hard drive, thereby erasing what I'd done, but now it's nearly there).

Just a question though - do you want it in parts (like 3 chapters at a time, just like the last one), or in one huge chunk (which may be a bastard to read)?

Kaos
12-01-2002, 11:03 AM
Whichever is faster.:D If it'll take a month to do it piece by piece, but only a week to chunk it, then do it chunk like.:D I don't know about anyone else, but I've been eagerly waiting for this for a while now. Go Scully!!!:cool:

Jewbo
12-01-2002, 11:47 AM
in chapters wud b much better.

cereal killer
12-14-2002, 12:41 PM
Chapters all the way Scully.

Scully1888
12-16-2002, 06:47 AM
Good shit, it's on the way.

And I mean it. :)

Jason Voorhees
12-16-2002, 11:18 AM
Scully, are you aware that there is a 15000 character limit per post? Furthermore, the file is probably too large to upload as one entire attachment.

You'll have to do this by chapters. But that's probably for the best, anyway. In any case, I'm eagerly anticipating this one, Scully.

slasherfan
12-18-2002, 08:16 AM
It's the moment you've all been waiting for, well, not really, but anyway, Pre Order Bloody Murder 2 NOW
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007M57Q/qid=1040216762/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_5/102-1412241-1719357?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

Jewbo
01-05-2003, 09:35 PM
bloody murder 2 cover:

http://images.bestbuy.com/mimages/movie/1120/11204543.jpg

TheHitcher2
01-06-2003, 03:34 AM
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why everyone is excited for Bloody Murder 2?

I can see that it may have good shlock value, but if people are looking for an improvement over the first and a good horror flick...then I just say...

"WHAAAAAT?"

Romero&Juliet
01-06-2003, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by Jewbo
bloody murder 2 cover:

http://images.bestbuy.com/mimages/movie/1120/11204543.jpg

I'm at a loss for words.. This will haunt me all through school today..

The Claw
01-06-2003, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by TheHitcher2
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why everyone is excited for Bloody Murder 2?

I can see that it may have good shlock value, but if people are looking for an improvement over the first and a good horror flick...then I just say...

"WHAAAAAT?"

I guess theyve just gone insane.

sigh* another school day.

The Claw
01-06-2003, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by Romero&Juliet
I'm at a loss for words.. This will haunt me all through school today..

Yeah I know it's quite terrifying. brr...

Jason Voorhees
01-06-2003, 01:18 PM
Of course, that cover is...amazing. And, of course, the film will be amazing, too...

Kaos
01-06-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Jason Voorhees
Of course, that cover is...amazing. And, of course, the film will be amazing, too...

It'll be amazingly funny after Scully does his MST3K treatment to it.:D

Jason Voorhees
01-07-2003, 05:01 AM
Damn right, Kaos :).

Scully1888
01-08-2003, 09:28 AM
Ah, reply number 700.

Problem with the BM1 Commentary Analysis guys... it's SHITE.

It's just not funny, and I've shown it to my friends in Edinburgh and they agree.

Do you really still want me to post it to make your own opinions, or would you rather I didn't bother finishing the last 10 minutes and just went back to Camp Blood 2?

Kaos
01-08-2003, 11:19 AM
Dude, do whatever you need to do. I'm sure all of us understand what an undertaking(no pun intended)this is for you. This isn't Hollywood, and you aren't under a deadline, if you have to go back and make some changes, or switch over to the CB2 analysis, then do it. We'll keep cheering you on.:cool:

TooL
01-08-2003, 12:01 PM
I want a Bloody Murder 2 poster for my room!

countchocula
01-08-2003, 02:02 PM
Go ahead and post the commentary analysis, Scully. It doesn't have to be hilarious. I'm really curious as to what Pordillo had to say about his undisputed masterpiece.

Jason Voorhees
01-08-2003, 02:35 PM
Yeah, as Count said, you don't have to be funny; Pordildo will take care of that :).

Even if you'd just posted his comments with none of your own, this would rock. So don't worry, dude. I'm sure it'll get a favorable reception from the schmoes here.

JivaFox
01-10-2003, 03:00 PM
Oh wow!

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0303732

:D

Jewbo
02-15-2003, 05:19 AM
ok i posed my 1000th post in here so i thought where else 2 post my 2000th post but here. any news on the BM front scully?

slasherfan
02-15-2003, 08:35 AM
Well, my copy of Bloody Murder 2 is on it's way.
http://images.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/463183bh.jpg

Is it just me or does that last sentence strike fear into the depths of my heart..... just me then :(
Also, is it legal to list full screen presentation as a special feature?

Jewbo
02-15-2003, 09:01 AM
slasher fan ur a lucky bastard. i wud love to see BM2.

slasherfan
02-15-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Jewbo
slasher fan ur a lucky bastard. i wud love to see BM2.

Erm, what exactly does "Lucky" mean in your screwy dictionary.

Jewbo
02-16-2003, 06:01 PM
hey buddy i wasnt taking the piss. lucky means lucky i dunno its an obvious word. it means u got BM2 and i wish i did. sorry to call u a bastard but it was in a friendly way.

slasherfan
02-16-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Jewbo
hey buddy i wasnt taking the piss. lucky means lucky i dunno its an obvious word. it means u got BM2 and i wish i did. sorry to call u a bastard but it was in a friendly way.
Don't worry bout it, maybe my sarcasum didn't show in my original post. I actully don't have it yet, it's just been shipped to me. What I ment was if this movie is as horrid as the first, is one really lucky to own it?:confused:

Jewbo
02-17-2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by slasherfan
Don't worry bout it, maybe my sarcasum didn't show in my original post. I actully don't have it yet, it's just been shipped to me. What I ment was if this movie is as horrid as the first, is one really lucky to own it?:confused:

ah sorry. i completly missed the point. u'll have to tell us wot its like.

Jason Voorhees
02-17-2003, 11:59 AM
Yeah, I'm eager to hear your thoughts, Slasherfan. I can't believe this flick is finally out...about 10 months after we initially thought it'd be :).

I'll be looking for this one the next time I'm at the video store. Should be...amazing.

Scully1888
02-18-2003, 10:00 AM
Needless to say, I've ordered mine today. Pricey, but if one person in the world had to buy the sequel to the worst film ever, it had to be me. :)

Here's the link for other Brits...

http://www.enterprisesdvd.com/r1/view_title/22087/Bloody_Murder_2/

slasherfan
02-18-2003, 11:00 AM
This is how the bloody murder box SHOULD of looked.

countchocula
02-18-2003, 02:48 PM
LOL! Priceless, slasherfan!

Jason Voorhees
02-18-2003, 02:54 PM
Yeah, if only all of them were that honest and helpful.

Hell, the only thing that's missing from that pic, SF, is a hologram of Trev's non-rotating, non-left or right hand replacement chainsaw swishing through the air at some unsuspecting teenager.

That would've rocked :).

JasonSlasher
02-18-2003, 02:57 PM
I don't know about anybody else, but I'd still like to see the Bloody Murder commentary analysis.

Hey Scully, if you don't want to post it, could you at least e-mail it to me at teenagepsycho851@yahoo.com? Thanks, and keep working on Camp Blood 2, it's hilarious!

slasherfan
02-18-2003, 05:30 PM
Here is another one, its the same only with more added to it.
I hope you can read the writing, looks a little smudged.

Scully1888
02-19-2003, 09:28 AM
Top class, Slash.

And JasonSlasher, I've already promised slasherfan that:

THE COMMENTARY ANALYSIS WILL BE UP BY MONDAY.

I know, I know, I've said this many times before, but this time I mean it. I want it (and Camp Blood 2) out of the way before I get Bloody Murder 2 which, according to Arrow's review, still has some shitness in it.

Scully1888
02-21-2003, 06:16 AM
Here we go, like I said, I'll have the analysis up by Monday, but here's the first 10 minutes' worth (bearing in mind there are a lot of occasions where Ralph Portillo's saying nothing for long periods of time).

BLOODY MURDER COMMENTARY ANALYSIS

0:00:00 - CAR PULLS IN
Hi, I'm Ralph Portillo, the director and one of the producers of the film Bloody Murder... here we are taking off into our story, going back in time a little bit to the beginning of the 60's, setting up the whole situation for our story...
AHA! MISTAKE! If it's set in the beginning of the 60's, let's say 1963, and if Bill's Drew's father, then that makes Drew about 37. I don't think so.
BIG MISTAKE NUMBER 1 - Huge calculation problem with chronology.

0:00:25 - BILL AND DREW'S MOTHER STOP THE CAR
...this is shot in a forest road up in the San Merdina mountains...
Think it was San Merdina, couldn't hear it right.
...a great spot to find to give us the remote feeling that we needed for the beginning of the movie.
As in, not REMOTELY interesting.

0:00:40 - BILL GETS OUT
Trying to create an eerie feeling, of uh, what would, what would you feel when you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere.
Didn't work. If you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere you don't leave your pregnant wife in the car and not even lock the door.
We desaturated the colour a bit, trying to give us an older feel here.
You must be joking me. It looks exactly the same as the rest of the film. Shite.

0:01:04 - BILL STARTS WALKING
So he heads out on the, on the lonely forest road at night... leaving his wife behind.
Not only have you admitted that you're aware of something that is stupid, you have failed to explain your reasoning behind the famous fade-out, fade-in that happens as Bill's walking, instead choosing to totally ignore it.

0:01:20 - BILL COMES TO TREVOR'S CAR
That's a hopeful sign, as he runs into a, what he hopes to be a good Samaritan...
Are you giving us your director's opinion here,or just telling the story, which we already know if we've watched it already?

0:01:40 - FIRST SHOWING OF TREVOR MOORHOUSE, AND BILL SAYS "TREVOR MOORHOUSE"
Trevor Moorhouse is a, the old legend that exists up in the mountains that everybody is aware of, everybody knows but does he really exist? That was the question on everybody's mind but... certainly he has no doubt.
Ha, he's trying to actually create a bit of history and back story. Don't think he's fooling me.

0:01:56 - TREVOR DRUNKENLY CHASES BILL THROUGH THE WOODS
SHIT JOKE 1 - We went through a big casting call to find all our cast but the one part that wasn't cast was Trevor Moorhouse and as it turns out, we had different people play him behind the hockey mask. Here in the opening, uh, I got my chance to play him and in my experience of chasing someone with a, with a chainsaw in the middle of the night...
He never finishes his sentence, but I won't lose sleep over it because it has the beginnings of a REALLY shit joke. He has also just admitted that he is responsible for Trevor Moorhouse's ridiculous drunken stagger.

RALPH IGNORES BILL'S DEATH ALTOGETHER, CHOOSING TO STAY SILENT.

0:02:36 - PRESENT DAY
Then it was back to work.
Heh, as if playing Moorhouse was fun, but the fun had to end at some point! What a dick!
Here we go travelling up the roads now in present day.
That seems a bit obvious now, seeing as it's no longer desaturated. My arse. :)

0:02:49 - CHARACTERS ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN THE CAR
Again, this is uh, up in the many many hundreds of miles of forest roads up in the, San Merdino mountains, north of Los Angeles.
Sounded like Merdino, this time.
It's very challenging to try to find the camp in the middle of summer. There are many camps up in those mountains but they were all booked pretty solid when we went up to make the film so, as it turns out we had to use 3 different camps to make it seem like one...
Hence the disappearing mountains.
...as is in the case of many, many films that you do... on small budgets where you, where you ah... make the locations work for your story.
I should note here that he sounds very nervous throughout this whole commentary, hence the large number of "um"s and "ah"s. He seems to like saying "many many" too.

0:03:58 - PULLING UP TO CAMP PLACID PINES
Here we are from the roads, to the dirt roads, to the forest roads and... finally arriving at our camp, which turns out to be one of our camps.
Heh, three different kinds of road? Listen to the man, people, he knows what he's talking about road-wise. You have ROADS, then DIRT ROADS (which I'd assume are roads made of dirt) then FOREST ROADS (which I would have thought were the same as roads, but he's making out as if they're made of trees or something).

0:04:10 - WE SEE THE CAMP PLACID PINES SIGN
Camp Placid Pines.
Aye, we can read.

0:04:22 - JUST AFTER THE INFAMOUS "EDITOR: CARLOS PUENTE" CAPTION
Our editor was up there during uh, the shoot, in the middle of... of the remoteness one of the cabins he walked in and it was a whole very hi-tech environment with our computers and Nomineer(?) editing systems.
So what? What the hell does that have to do with anything? :)

0:04:57 - JASON AND BRAD HAVE A WEE CONFRONTATION
These are all working camps.
...Okay.
So there were a lot of uh, kids doing their summer activities, but we always tried to uh, schedule our film around where they were: they were out in the archery range, we were out in the office. They were at the lake, we'd be at the muh, at the exercise area.
I don't know exactly what he says here, but it sounds like "muh". A shiny nickel to the first person that can work it out. Oh, and he says "exercise area" in a very perverted manner, as if he's exercising his groinal area as he says it.
It was a great experience for all the cast and crew though, to actually live and experience the summer camp.
Yes, because it's something that never happens to anyone and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

0:05:55 - DEAN AND JASON LOOK IN THE CAR TRUNK
It was a very good experience to work with such an enthusiastic cast and crew, everybody with a different spirit of adventure.
I can't believe this man thinks he's made a masterpiece.

0:06:10 - THE PANTRY SCENE
This of course, uh... turned out to be the dining room where we... actually ate 3 meals a day during the shoot.
Jesus, that's amazing.
ANIMAL REFERENCE 1 - The night before we arrived... um... couple of people walking in left the door open, and were followed by a bear into the c... into the reh... into the kitchen.
I think he was going to say "cupboard" then "restroom" then settled on kitchen. And anyone want to bet it was HIM that left the door open?
They turned around, they went one way, the bear went the other way and unfortunately the poor bear went through a window.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent! That would've been amazing! What kind of window was it though? Surely a bear wouldn't jump out of a window in fright? It had to be a full-size one.
After this we were all warned to keep all doors closed and not leave any food out because there were many bears in the area.
Hence the bear.

0:07:04 - JULIE GOES INTO THE FREEZER
ANIMAL REFERENCE 2 - Everytime we opened a door we had to uh, work around all the animal life that would come out of everywhere, of every corner, and the raccoons or chipmunks or squirrels in every corner.
Surely not including the freezer? You picked a bad time to mentioned that, Ralphy boy - you've just admitted that this camp has squirrels in its freezer.

0:08:40 - TOBY TRIES PICK-UP LINES ON JULIE IN THE FREEZER
So our whole kitchen and refridgerator areas were shot in one of the camps and actually the main camp was 15 miles from there, and our little lake was about 20 miles down the mountain in another direction.

0:08:53 - THE LAKE & CANOES
This isn't Big Bear lake, this is a small lake... called Bruff lake(?)...
Well that's a disappointment. I think.
...part of a beautiful summer camp up in the mountains. This day trying to make it deserted we had to deal with about 150 kids doing camp activities and arts & crafts on the other side of the, of the tree line there.
It would have been easy to make it look deserted. Just shout "HEY KIDS! I'M RALPH PORDILDO!" and they'll run like fuck.

0:10:15 - JULIE & DREW WALK IN THE FOREST
This beautiful little forest trail was near our camp up in the- uh, forest roads. We spent a couple of days camped out. Not overnight, but we set up our motorhomes, catering, equipment trucks etc in a place where we had a lot of trails and roads to work from.
Surely it doesn't count as having "camped out" if you didn't actually sleep in the forest?


The rest will come on Monday... Oh, and like I said before, I realise it isn't actually that funny, but some Schmoes have wanted to see it, so this is it.

Kaos
02-21-2003, 11:15 AM
Scully, you rock, dude!! Even the MST3K guys weren't funny %100 of the time, but it was still great to hear their commentary. Same situation here.

slasherfan
02-21-2003, 04:32 PM
Great work Scully, man, I can't believe we are on page 19, this must be the longest running topic on the entire message board, maybe someone could do a "BLLODY MURDER IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS" analysis.

countchocula
02-21-2003, 04:45 PM
Jesus, why can't Ralph just admit that he made an appalling piece of shit? Does he actually believe Bloody Murder to be a decent, legitimate production?

spacemonkey
02-21-2003, 04:56 PM
Hey count, I guess its sort of like when you draw something that you think is a really kick ass drawing, you know you feel really proud of it, only thing everyone thinks its a piece of shit.

Youll still in your mind like your drawing. Same thing here. Poor dope cant see with an objective eye. OH well if anything at least we have a crappy movie to make fun of, thanks to our ol pal Scully. :D

slasherfan
02-21-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by countchocula
Jesus, why can't Ralph just admit that he made an appalling piece of shit? Does he actually believe Bloody Murder to be a decent, legitimate production?

Hey, one mans trash is another mans treasure... although in this case everyones trash is one mans treasure.

countchocula
02-21-2003, 05:58 PM
Yeah, it's hard to be objective about your own creations, but surely he realizes how generic his crowning dud is. The whole thing just baffles me. Oh well, excellent work as always, Scully. I can't wait to read the rest!

Corporal_Hicks
02-21-2003, 06:42 PM
Thanks for your contributing your time and effort Scully and saving us from seeing the damn film. After reading Arrow's review of BM2, I don't think an analysis of that film and its commentary will be needed, unless you want to do one.

As for Ralph's commentary, it is just bad plain and simple. The man proves he isn't so intelligent and can't make a good film.

Jason Voorhees
02-22-2003, 12:14 AM
Excellent stuff, Scully! I'm glad you decided to post this. As I suspected, Portillo's comments alone are hilarious. I'm definitely anticipating the rest. I'm sure he'll dance around the subjects, but it'll be nice to read his reactions (or his non sequiturs) to some of the later atrocities in this film (Like Julie's Dad's erection...:)).

Jewbo
02-22-2003, 10:30 AM
great stuff. i think it is pretty funny scully. have sum faith cant wait till next part.

thirdeye
02-23-2003, 07:01 AM
0:08:53 - THE LAKE & CANOES
This isn't Big Bear lake, this is a small lake... called Bruff lake(?)...
Well that's a disappointment. I think.
...part of a beautiful summer camp up in the mountains. This day trying to make it deserted we had to deal with about 150 kids doing camp activities and arts & crafts on the other side of the, of the tree line there.
It would have been easy to make it look deserted. Just shout "HEY KIDS! I'M RALPH PORDILDO!" and they'll run like fuck.



Funny Shit Scully

Scully1888
02-24-2003, 08:32 AM
Jesus Christ, I kept a promise for once!

Here's the rest of the analysis, yes, the whole thing. Have to say it was ridiculously frustrating listening to that man's voice for the whole weekend for a total of about 13 hours. But I aim to please, and hopefully I sort of half please you all with this, despite my opinion that it's shit and more on an angry rant at Portillo's stupidity than a humorous insight and biting satire. :)

Anyway...


PART 2

0:10:40 - JULIE & DREW KEEP WALKING
Yep, and here we go back to our main camp... which is here, these are the roads where we walked back and forth, back and forth... day and night.
It's not a fairy tale, Portillo, and we don't care how much you had to walk. However, i suppose when you think about it, a lot of walking would have been troublesome, especially when you consider that Julie walks like she's got a cauliflower lodged up her ass and Ralph Portillo (as Trevor Moorhouse) ran as if he was extremely drunk).

0:11:06 - HENRY CONFRONTS JULIE AND TELLS HER "NELSON'S COME BACK FOR REVENGE"
This is Stu Goldberg, a New York actor who had just come out to Los Angeles and... has la, landed his first part.
I guess he went back to New York approximately zero seconds after shooting, cause if that was his first part in LA, you know you can't improve on that.
Something he had never done before, to play... a menacing person, he'd always been playing the grandfather and the good uncle parts.
So upon his return to New York, he probably signed up for Uncle Buck 2 and The Adventures Of The Ridiculously Kind Grandfather Who Has Never Been To Camp Placid Pines.

0:11:28 - JULIE TALKS TO PATRICK ABOUT HENRY AND HIS "SHAKY ALTZHEIMERS"
This is one of the few steadicam shots in the film. Actually it was a good friend of mine who was camping in the mountains and had his rig with him, heard that we were shooting, came by, and said "you know, I'm available for the day" and... certainly took advantage of that.
I bet.
Actually we'd worked with him before, he's worked with us on locations in uh, Chicago and down in, south in Mexico.

0:11:57 - SHITTY E-MAIL NUMBER ONE
That was a little shot of the cabins where we lived for 10 days... but then of course is part of the puzzle, the interior... is at another camp.
Hardly a puzzle. In puzzle terms, it's like "I have a piece of meat and an airplane. Which can I eat?". Expect to see Ralph Portillo sticking a fork into a Boeing 747 soon.

0:13:08 - THE CAMPFIRE SCENE
So here we are in a cold night, low 40's, we went acting like summertime but making it hard to, to leave the fire... everyone's trying to huddle close to the fire.
He says "to the fire" in a whisper as if to make it sound either comforting, or really sexual. Make your own minds up.
SHIT JOKE 2 - They were very reluctant to be out there in shorts.
But I bet you made them, huh Ralph? Especially little Surfer Dude there.
SHIT JOKE 3 - Especially with only Apple Juice to drink.
Obviously on a higher budget than Camp Blood 2, where they only had Lemon & Lime.

0:14:46 - EVERYONE RUNS ABOUT IN THE FOREST UNDER A BIG SPOTLIGHT PAST THE PAINTED TREE
This f-uh, sequence was shot over... four different nights, four different places.
A lie - it was 30 minutes, one painted tree.
Some were newer than others which always is a big challenge for your smoke.
I really don't understand this bit. It actually sounds like he says "someone newer than others" but "some were" seems to make more sense, although I still can't really get it. Anyone can work it out, shout me a holler. As you hip cats say.
SHIT JOKE 4 - Always trying to keep our generators far enough so we don't... hear them, but it's all running cable, couple of hundred yards through the hills, through the trees... and hoping that nobody steps in a big hole and disappears of course.
It's not fucking Super Mario Bros, there aren't big holes where people disappear. Surely you'd check the place out in daylight before wandering blindly over there in the dark.
It turns out we spent a lot of time with our actors running around the hills at night... we spent a lot of time, they were really um, grateful that they were in good physical condition because it turned out to be a very physical show for everybody involved.
They're just running. It's hardly American Gladiators. Clint Eastwood probably worked up more of a sweat in The Bridges Of Madison County.

0:17:06 - DEAN & JASON PLAY A JOKE ON BRAD
ANIMAL REFERENCE 3 - This is another one of the nights where we had to uh, repeat the shots many times because of... unwanted visitors. We had a lot of uh, raccoons coming down from the trees that night.
SHIT JOKE 5 - I guess they found, uh, movie blood attractive or something but they were really uh, interested in what we were doing that night.
Or maybe they felt safe with another member of the animal kingdom as a director, you fucking chimp.

0:18:26 - JULIE & DREW TALK (INCLUDES "IT'S A HABIT I PICKED UP IN GUAM")
These scenes were shot back at our main camp... these are the cabins where we DID live for the nine days.
I thought it was 10?
BIG MISTAKE NUMBER 2 - A missing day.
The cast was on one side of the camp, some of the crew members there too, then off to the corner we had our editing cabin, which was always interesting to walk in, from the rustic surroundings into a, a hi-tech interior with all our, monitors and computers set up.
Rustic? And hasn't he already discussed this?

0:19:18 - JASON DRY-HUMPS WHITNEY
Our films was driven down to Los Angeles every night and into the lab and back up the hill the next day where we were able to watch our... our dailies, everything we shot the previous day. It was a very effective way to work in a, in advance on our, on our short schedule, in order to meet our delivery date.
Especially with all those days disappearing.

0:20:45 - JULIE ASKS WHERE JASON IS
We were very fortunate in that the cast got along great together, they had never met before the show but as it turns out they all be, all became very close. So that was helpful when the cast, especially when you have an ensemble piece, can get along with each other very well.
An "ensemble piece"? If this is an ensemble piece, then what film isn't?
Working on fast schedules it makes it a lot easier for them, and for the tech crew which is ah, not having to chase them down and... catch up with them.
I really don't understand what he means here.

0:22:02 - WHITNEY & DEAN AT THE LAKE (COMPLETE WITH TEMPERAMENTAL RAIN & SUN)
This is one of our water sequences that we shot at the little lake. I like the music that our composer wrote for this sequence very much.
I don't.
I think he did a great job, Steven Stern. It helps to add to the mystery of the location.
What mystery? It's a summer camp called Camp Placid Pines.
Very challenging day in which... the weather was changing every 20 minutes, sunny one moment and, cloudy and a little rainy the next... foggy for a while, back to sun.
He admitted it!
FUCK-UP ADMISSION NUMBER 1 - The changing weather.
And Michael did a great job, in the part of Dean. Very talented actor.
Bit of a generic statement to make.
And Tracey was a very co-operative and talented young actress.
And again.

0:24:09 - WHITNEY FALLS IN THE WATER
SHIT JOKE 6 - Whereas ready or not, she had to take her dive.
ANIMAL REFERENCE 4 - As you'll see when she pulls her hand out, the water was full of uh, lots of vegetation and weeds. I think she was more scared of the uh, of the animals in the water, there were a few fish.
Hardly a piranha swarm though, Ralph.
But we had to repeat the shot a few times, she was always a real trooper, even in that extremely actually cold weather up there.
I don't think there's any need for the word "actually". It's pretty obvious it was cold if it's fucking raining and she's in a lake wearing a purple bikini.
Cold weather and very cold water.
Jesus Christ.

0:26:07 - WATCHING SLEEPOVER CAMP MASSACRE 14 (OR FEVER LAKE)
Here's a group late at night, watching a movie, this movie was uh, another movie named Fever Lake which uh, we had shot, couple of years previous to this.
You should have given up then.
This movie was shot up in Wisconsin, and being a movie of this same type of genre, just thought it would be very appropriate for them to be watching at the time.
What type of genre? Shit films that get found in the "3 DVDs for £10" bin in the nearest thrift store or second-hand shop? (UK Schmoes, I saw Scream Bloody Murder (the UK version of Bloody Murder) AND Fever Lake in such a bin in Cash Convertors.)

RALPH IGNORES WHITNEY'S DEATH ALTOGETHER, CHOOSING TO STAY SILENT. AGAIN.

0:28:34 - BLONDE CHICK WITH NO NAME TELLS PATRICK THAT WHITNEY'S MISSING
This is one of our main cabins that doubled for... production office, and... set that was used in different scenes.
Finally, you speak, after two minutes of silence.

0:28:44 - PATRICK SPEAKS TO THE SHERIFF
This is Michael Prohaska, our sheriff. Good actor that you uh, you've seen many times in different programs. Television episodic.
No, I haven't. And "television episodic" doesn't exactly flow off the tongue like "cellar door", does it Donnie Darko fans?
Actually this kitchen was in another camp that they had just closed down and they were getting ready to renovate, opening up two weeks after we left. It was perfect for our purposes.
Not really, because it makes it look like a deserted camp, as opposed to one that should be full of food ready for the kids arriving.
In this scene the sheriff lays out the whole Trevor Moorhouse legend, which he obviously doesn't believe.
Remember, the "whole Trevor Moorhouse legend" therefore consists of "Trevor Moorhouse is back for revenge and Trevor Moorhouse stole my cat and Trevor Moorhouse smashed my car". Hardly a history of terror.

Scully1888
02-24-2003, 08:34 AM
PART 3

0:31:20 - TOBY'S RIDICULOUS THEORY ON WHY DREW COULD BE THE KILLER
Here Toby is a film buff, tells the sheriff his theory of how the crime was committed.
He's hardly a film buff, just a sad bastard who knows the running time of a made-up film called 'Sleepover Camp Massacre 14'.
Obviously we didn't use our Fever Lake title.
Obviously, because it would be unrealistic to assume that a film buff would want to show that piece of shit to other people, as it would mean his inevitable demise.

0:33:01 - JULIE TRIES THE ROPE-SLIDE THING
This was a great activity that the camp had at the lake. It wasn't written in the script but we couldn't pass up the opporuny, opportunity to use it, (???)
He said something at the end here that I couldn't understand. Doubt it was the meaning of life or anything, though.
SHIT JOKE 7 - It was hard to get back to work since everybody in the crew wanted to take a ride on it.
Can you imagine being at that summer camp and wanting to play on the rope swing thing, but couldn't because grown men were using it instead of making a horror film? Pathetic.

0:34:23 - DEAN IS TAKEN AWAY AS THE MAIN SUSPECT
So now Dean's taken away as the main suspect.
Like I said.
This again was our... fortunate steadicam day, take advantage of those shots.
Which explains why a steadicam was used when it wasn't really necessary.

0:34:44 - DREW & JULIE ON THE ROCK ("MISERY COMES IN LOTS OF FORMS, IT'S ALL MISERABLE")
This is a great spot off of one of the forest roads, up on a... up on a mountain.
No shit. This commentary is certainly vital in revealing parts of the movie that I wouldn't have otherwise been able to work out. Of course it's on a fucking mountain.
SHIT JOKE 8 - Of course, one's idea of what would be a nice shot is very debatable to the crew that has to climb up the whole mountain with all the equipment.
Hahahahahaha. No really, it's funny. Oh wait, that's right. It isn't.
Well we were into the second week by this time so by now, everyone was accustomed to, to the daily hikes.

0:36:55 - THE SHERIFF INTERROGATES DEAN
This sheriff's station, it was shot in Big Bear Lake. It's actually the office of the, Big Bear Fire Department. In fact it might not even exist because the, they were just opening their new building, and they were getting ready to move out of this one.
Shit, and I really wanted to go and locate the famous "Sheriff's Office From Bloody Murder". Do you think it's a coincidence that some of the places they film in (the kitchen, the sheriff's office) closed up and moved? Maybe they didn't want to be associated with the film?

0:39:38 - SITTING ROUND THE TABLE ("SIX DEGREES OF MUTILATION")
This scene was written for... to take place during a dinner, but I felt that it would make it more intimate to take it outside, play it tight on the actors.
...The fuck does that mean?
The night was cold, they were drinking hot chocolate and I think that we uh, we put this across.
So let me get this straight. The audience is supposed to think the scene was more "intimate" because we're supposed it know it's cold and that they're drinking hot chocolate? Hmmmm.

0:40:20 - SURFER DUDE TALKS TO BRAD
This was our main camp here. Our editing cabin is the one in the background there. Actually our editor was hard at work while we were shooting this.
Finally, there's that proof that Puerto Rican editors AREN'T lazy and workshy. And hasn't he already pointed out that this was the main cabin about 400 times?
The one that you can see up at the top was uh, wardrobe cabin.
Amazing. So they actually filled a cabin with ill-fitting shorts.

0:40:56 - BRAD'S DEATH SCENE (ARROWS IN THE BACK)
This part, this was part of our main camp, it was up the hill from our cabins, and it was a working archery range.
Well, if it has targets and arrows then it's working. It's not like it needs a generator or anything. It's not like a "working shower room".
This is one of our other Trevor Moorhouse actors.
Well fucking tell us who it is then.

RALPH CHOOSES TO STAY SILENT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OF BRAD'S DEATH, OPTING INSTEAD TO DISCUSS IT DURING THE NEXT SCENE. FOR SOME REASON.

0:42:04 - JULIE CHECKS HER E-MAILS FOR THE TWELVE MILLIONTH TIME
So we had set up our effect for uh, the arrow going through the body, but I thought that an arrow flying through the air would help uh, accentuate the tension.
Tension? You see the arrow for a split second then it's in his back! Hardly a minute of tense silence!
So we, we tried an approach that was uh, very basic actually.
Basic? I don't believe it.
Setting the camera up in the back seat, in the front seat of the car shooting out the passenger side, and in the back someone holding the arrow on a drill so it also is travelling through the air, and as I drove the vehicle we were able to film the arrow flying through the air.
I'll admit that's quite clever, even though he couldn't remember whether he was sitting in the front or the back, and even though the effect actually looks quite shit.
It's a very basic uh, setup but I thought that it was very effective and it certainly showed uh, what we needed to show, the arrow flying through the air.
Right.
The arrow itself in the body was uh, done by our special effects person and that is done uh, is triggered to shoot out, and is just the tip of the arrow that you see in front, or in the back. So combining both we had the arrow flying through the air and then actually seeming to go through a body.
I'm not convinced by this bit. At no point does it look like the arrow goes through the guy, we only ever see it appear in front of him. Lies, damn lies and foul lies.

0:43:42 - SHERIFF TALKS TO PATRICK, AGAIN
We didn't want to use a conventional patrol car up in the mountains so we thought that the sheriff should drive more of a offroad-type vehicle, so as we were looking around one of our uh, people on the production team was the owner of this blue truck so we decided to dress this one up then uh, we were all very happy with, with the look, I think it made a, a great... mountain sheriff's vehicle.

0:44:14 - JULIE TALKS TO PATRICK AND TOBY ("PLEASE, KILL NEXT")
ANIMAL REFERENCE 5 - By the time we shot this scene the second week in this camp, of the 10 days that we spent there, 9 or 10 days, the little animals weren't even afraid of us anymore, you'd walk in and the chipmunks or the little fieldmice would stop, turn around, see you and then continue on their way without uh, without being scared at all of us, they were actually quite used to the whole cast and crew by this time.
He still doesn't know if it's 9 or 10 days they were there, and he's just spent 30 seconds talking shite about chipmunks. Anyone else glad that they're reading this for free instead of having to shell out up to 30 bucks to hear it?
This is one of the big question marks in the story, who was Nelson. And Julie's dad, Tommy McConnell.
What about him? The only reason it's a question mark is because the script is so bloody confusing and the characters so bloody forgettable.

0:46:31 - JULIE IS CHASED BY TREVOR WITH HIS SHITTY PANTS
This is another one of those sequences that was shot over three different areas, three different days. The one concept would be that Trevor Moorhouse was played by the same actor this time.
Except that doesn't mean shit, because it's a different person throughout the whole film. The fact that it's the same guy throughout one whole scene is hardly satisfying.
All these moving sequences we shot with uh, a gear called a Pogo Cam. It's a small camera where you use very small loads. It's a very lightweight carrying camera. It worked very well for all our needs, in... in our moving shots.

0:50:09 - DEAN'S JAM-SPREADINGLY GOOD DEATH
This is another shot done by our special effects... team.
It was a PERSON ten minutes ago! Now it's a TEAM?
They placed a prosthetic neck on him, that was able to be opened up and, and, have the blood come out.
That's a lie, as in the analysis I previously pointed out that all they'd done was applied neck-bleeding makeup as it was visible for a frame or two before his throat was even slit.
(on the jam-spreading on the back)This was a dummy... we used the back.
No shit.

0:50:49 - JULIE VISITS THE "CREEPY OLD COTTAGE"
This little cabin here was uh, had a plaque outside, was considered a historical site because it was the place where the... stage stopped as it went through the mountains here. This little cabin here was actually built in the 1840's.
Anyone want to suggest he's talking BS?
But again, the interior we shot at a diffferent camp... and it wasn't the interior of that cabin.
I should think not, if it was at a different camp. Otherwise that'd be a bastard for whoever lived there. Imagine going through your front door and having to go to another camp before you got inside.
That's a picture of the young Henry.

0:51:58 - JULIE TYPES ANOTHER FUCKING E-MAIL
This computer screen that we keep using throughout the film was a program that was written for us, not to have any problems with clearances or copyrights... the, Lynx e-mail system. It was actually written up by a very talented computer programmer, and he designed it for us, and also um, put up all our e-mail messages for us.
You heard it here first folks, USA Lynx does not exist. And how pissed do you think the programmer was when he realised how they'd fucked up his e-mail messages? :) Oh, and if they didn't want problems with copyright then they should have spotted the Microsoft Internet Explorer part written at the top of the window.

0:53:29 - JULIE SEARCHES FOR "NELSON HAMMOND"
This search engine that comes up on the computer now is another part of the, program that was written for us.
I think we could work that out, you've only told us about it a minute and a half ago - it's not like we've forgotten it or anything.

Scully1888
02-24-2003, 08:35 AM
PART 4

0:54:44 - JULIE READS ABOUT BILL ANDERSON'S "PREGNANT WIFE PATRICIA"
His pregnant wife Patrica was the woman we saw at the beginning of the film.
Obviously, hence Bill.
In the car that ran out of gas.
Christ, WE KNOW! We don't all share your IQ.

0:55:09 - JULIE GETS PURSUED BY JASON IN A HOODED TOP FROM E.T.
ANIMAL REFERENCE 6 - This sequence coming up now was one of this where we had to uh, deal with many animals in the area, again. A raccoon did follow us everywhere it kept getting in the way of the actors, and a couple of deer, kept rustling through the bushes scaring everybody and finally ran across the main trail.
Where in the fuck was this filmed, Noah's Ark? We don't give a flying shit about the animals, tell us about them once and leave it, we'll just assume it was true for most outdoor scenes. Jesus Christ, I'd hate to live in a house with Ralph Portillo - if he dropped a fucking pea on the carpet he'd spend the next 20 years of your life fucking telling you about it every day.
I do apologise, but it's quite frustrating doing this because I'm using an .avi file and every time I have to rewind it back it goes back a whole minute, so to note down, word for word, a lengthy anecdote like the one above takes at least a good 10 minutes. The most I could hope for is for it to be a God damn change instead of the same story told for the sixth fucking time.
Well this night our actors during one of the rehearsals ran into a bush and unfortunately had a thorn go into her leg, which we had to have a nurse come out and take out, since it had gone in over an inch.
How big was this fucking thorn?
She was a real trooper like always and continued with her, with her running and her acting doing a very good job of it.

1:00:10 - DREW & TOBY SET UP THE OBSTACLE COURSE
Up on one of the hills on our main camp, there was this uh, old course that they had set up years before that hadn't been used in a long time, which we dressed up a little and uh, used for our obstacle course in the film, it worked very well for that.

1:01:07 - TREVOR SABOTAGES THE ROPE BY CUTTING IT
Here again is another actor playing Trevor Moorhouse. This would be our third Trevor Moorhouse in the movie.
Yes, but WHO IS IT this time?

1:01:22 - JULIE TRIES THE OBSTACLE COURSE
Here we are setting of on the, on our makeshift obstacle course.
Again, he says the end of this sentence as a perverted whisper.
This wall was very hard for Jessica to climb so... we tried shooting her from different angles to make it seems like she was really climbing and I think we did acheive that.
Yes, despite me ripping this piss out of it on my analysis for looking terribly unrealistic.
FUCK-UP ADMISSION NUMBER 2 - Julie's inability to climb a fucking rope.

1:04:18 - SURFER DUDE'S HEARTBREAKING DEMISE
This is another one of our shots done by our special effects department.
Jesus, it's a DEPARTMENT now, as if it's part of a huge conglomerate. Who did the dummies that fall out of the tree later on, or Fat Larry Bird's boner? The special effects INDUSTRY?
This not being an arrow but being a, a lwan dart.
Once again, Ralph Portillo's insight gains him the award for Best Commentary of 2001.
This was placed uh, on his chest and, on a spring, spring-loaded, so when it hits it stands up and breaks through the t-shirt. Bouncing balls were always a great point of discussion, how many balls we should have bouncing around him.
I personally would have went for ZERO, as they would have already bounced away when he dropped them.

1:07:15 - THE ARRIVAL OF FAT LARRY BIRD
Here's where we were trying to bring about the old campers coming back to town, Julie's father was a camper here. This is a day when our sound department had a terrible time battling the wind, and our lighting and grip department had all our reflectors or lights always blowing over. We worked under very tough circumstances that day.
Funny, because there doesn't appear to be a single breeze.

1:08:43 - JULIE FINDS SURFER DUDE'S BODY
Here's Julie heading back into the office for some research. This was actually the working office of the camp. They were very helpful letting (???)... worked around us, although we only had one hour to shoot this scene inside the office.
Shows.
Julie discovers another false alarm, but is it false really?
What are you talking about, of course Surfer Dude's dead, and of course Drew isn't the killer.
And now Jessica the actress begins her long run of sequences shot over a four-day period, again in different camps, so this chase... took many hours of running.

1:11:26 - DREW TALKS TO FAT LARRY BIRD
This is back at uh, Forest Road Camp, away from our camps.
Original name. Anyone near LA know of such a camp?
We were fortunate to have a calm day this day on the lake as opposed to one of our windier stormy days. Of course it didn't make any difference for someone having to go swimming in that iced water.
Iced? If it was iced, they'd just land on it and not get wet. Last time I checked, "iced water" was actually ice. Of course, last time I checked was a whole 10 seconds ago, so the definition could have changed since then.

1:13:38 - JULIE RUNS A LOT
All the ferns you see in the foreground came up overnight. The day we were there before, we had set up our shots on an empty hillside and the next day everything was covered.
What the hell? Is this an X-Files thing or something?

1:15:25 - TREVOR ATTACKS DREW & JULIE
This is one of our last days shooting on these docks.
You know, we really don't care when the fuck you shot the scene. It's hardly Night Of The Living Dead.

1:16:15 - PATRICK REVEALS HE'S THE KILLER
This series of shots was all shot handheld, to try to bring the urgency... out, and uh, the actors had a great enegery level to carry out this scene.
This man is clearly insane.
(On the Benicio Del Toro lookalike "Patrick") This is one of our other Trevor Moorhouse actors, which is actually a volunteer which in this case turned out to be our production manager.
Hmmmm.
SHIT JOKE 9 - When we needed someone to hang, upside-down, with some uh, with a heavy dose of makeup on, he volunteered and uh, he had about an hour downtime so we took advantage and hung him up from the tree.
As you do.

Scully1888
02-24-2003, 08:36 AM
PART 5

1:17:49 - PATRICK CHASES JULIE
And now Jessica takes off here in what turned out to be many miles of jogging up on this hills.
Yes, he says "this hills".
(on her vicious fall) This fall was totally unplanned. Unfortunately it was one of the first days of the shoot, and it became a very uh, big challenge both for her to deal with the pain and the swelliness and for our makeup department to cover up all the scratches and the skinned leg, since our character had to wear shorts for most of the show.
Let it be known that when you fall and hurt your knee, it is prone to suffering SWELLINESS.

1:19:00 - PATRICK GRABS THE AXE
Here the axe scene was near our main camp, and this hillside scene took place up near our uh, forest road camp. Again up on the rocks where we shot some other scenes.

1:20:07 - PATRICK IS CONFRONTED BY EVERYONE AND SHOT BY DREW
Back to, heh, at our main camp, three days afterwards.
I don't know why he laughs here. Perhaps he's just realised how ridiculous it is to have a commentary on a film like this, while A Nightmare On Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors goes without one.

1:21:11 - SURFER DUDE'S CORPSE IS ZIPPED UP; JULIE TALKS TO FAT LARRY BIRD & DREW
That was another of those unpleasant moments for an actor where he has to be, in this case, zipped up in a bodybag... on a very warm day. It's okay for one shot but by the time you repeat the shot four times, he has to draw up on a lot of willpower to stay there.
Surely it doesn't take four shots to film someone getting a bag zipped up over them?
On this day Jessica, our actress playing Julie, seems to have swollen eyes from crying, but actually it was a terrible case of food poisoning, she woke up with that morning. She'd had some bad fruit and was uh, not in very good shape for this day, yet it worked for our scene so we were able to pull it off.
Jesus, at first I thought Jessica Morris's website described Bloody Murder as "forgettable" because it was shite, but now I can see it's really because she got food poisoning, fell on her knee and got swelliness, and couldn't climb a rope.

1:22:34 - SHERIFF TALKS TO PATRICK ("MUST'VE BEEN... TREVOR MOORHOUSE")
This is Big Bear Lake in the background that you see. We're back at our sheriff's office... which is the... Big Bear Fire Department.
We know, we know.

1:23:22 - JULIE PACKS UP THE CAR AND EFFECTIVELY TELLS JASON TO FUCK OFF
So who did really commit all those murders? Was it Patrick?
Yes, he's just admitted he killed everyone except Doug.
The old camper named Nelson Hammond?
Yes, that was Patrick, who killed everyone except Doug. You're not really making it sound mysterious, Ralphy baby.
The last two people to leave the camp.
You're just describing what we're seeing.
Camp stays behind empty, although actually just under the side of that house we had 200 little kids enjoying their activities at a real summer camp of course.
Funny, you hadn't mentioned it before.

1:25:28 - JASON SEES TREVOR MOORHOUSE
SHIT JOKE 10 - This is back on our forest roads... The REAL Trevor Moorhouse. He's still out there so if you ever visit those camps, suggest you be careful.
Hmmm, right.

1:26:12 - END CREDITS
So it was a lot of fun to watch the movie again and just sit here and be able to comment a few things on it, I hope that uh, you enjoyed it also, and I hope that you enjoyed the great scenery and uh, the legend of Trevor Moorhouse.
The pleasure was all yours, believe me.
SHIT JOKE 11 - Which might not be a legend, he might still be there. As I said, keep your eye out when you're back up in the hills.
Right, joke's over, he's not real.

1:26:30 - THE END
Thank you.
No problem.

Scully1888
02-24-2003, 08:39 AM
And there we go.

Next up... THOSE FUCKING HAIKUS! (Remember them?)

Oh, and I'll try and do a bit more Camp Blood 2 as well.

Kaos
02-24-2003, 10:23 AM
Bravo Scully, bravo. I'm sure I speak for all the schmoes when I say that you have our respect and gratitude. Respect, because you sat through 13 hours of this yammering idiot(and god only knows how many hours before doing the first commentary), and gratitude, because although you didn't care for your analysis, I'm sure we found it quite amusing(at least I did). Congrats Scully, on a job well done!

Jason Voorhees
02-24-2003, 10:51 AM
Portillo's comments are just like the film itself: vapid, idiotic, boring...God bless him.

I can't believe he actually had the fucking gall to say any of these "actors" were "good."

And I may be a slight bit more forgiving than Scully, but there's no way that was a prosthetic neck on Dean. It was obviously makeup. Although how his pontificating goes from a lone special effects person to a legion of trained professionals was especially hilarious.

"This Hills." LOL. And how pathetic were those end jokes? "Trevor's real, goddamnit!" "He abducted me and forced me to shoot this film!"

On a side note: it was nice to have confirmation that Julie's big fall was, indeed, accidental.

Great work, Scully. This rocked like I knew it would. Can't wait for the haikus.

thirdeye
02-24-2003, 11:11 AM
It's official. RALPH PORDILDO is a fucking retard

countchocula
02-24-2003, 11:46 AM
Why is it that during every death sequence, Pordillo says, "this is a shot that our special effects guy/team/department worked on." Isn't that implied? Isn't it common knowledge that films tend to require special effects every now and then? Jesus, what a dreadful commentary. Hats off to Scully for mustering up the stamina to sit through this bullshit.

Fettdog
02-24-2003, 12:58 PM
Congrats on finally finishing this Scully! :)

Just in time for Bloody Murder 2! ;)

slasherfan
02-24-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Scully1888
[B]PART 3
Can you imagine being at that summer camp and wanting to play on the rope swing thing, but couldn't because grown men were using it instead of making a horror film? Pathetic.

That have me laughing for AGES.

TooL
02-24-2003, 10:43 PM
Great stuff man! :)

I watched Bloody Murder 2 earlier. Good shit,in my opinion! Im still tryin to snag that poster for my room.

DoctorGonzo
02-25-2003, 07:18 AM
Jesus, now I know what Scully does with his time. I always assumed he was jerking off, or something.

Scully1888
02-25-2003, 07:57 AM
Well, there's always time for a five minute break.

Always. :)

XCoRyX
02-26-2003, 02:30 AM
haha good stuff scully,you enlighten somehow all the time....strange?

edit
02-26-2003, 04:26 AM
To this day I've never even heard of BLOODY MURDER, or the sequel. After reading this thread I will definitely never watch them :D

Mojo67821
02-26-2003, 12:40 PM
Hey guys whatsup, I posted on this thread about 100 pages ago...but anyways.

I just watched Bloody Murder 2 this weekend and actually thought it was a decent STV slasher. I'm also interviewing Tiffany Shepis for my website, the interview should be up tonight.

Just incase you didnt' know, I posted Scully's first Bloody Murder analysis here.

http://bghorror.topcities.com/scullyindex.html

The Tiffany Shepis interview will be up late tonight, here's the site URl

http://bghorror.topcities.com

Anyways, I just wanted to say that the sequel to Bloody Murder was decent, and it might actually be hard to write a Scully style analysis of it...but I'll let him be the judge of that

Scully1888
02-27-2003, 11:18 AM
Top class interview there, Mojo.

By the way, thought this would impress some die-hards:

http://www.pipetap.com/patrick.htm

Best quote (spelling intact): After his first stage appearance in his Kindergarten class production of babes in Toyland, were he sang the opening number, Patrick future profession seemed guaranteed.