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MsMoviefan
04-07-2003, 08:05 PM
I am sooooooooooooo jealous.Guess I should take some acting classes (or maybe pactice my tennis.even.)
That wasn't really a rant, but I'll throw in my two cents anyway.
I don't think people should bitch about actors getting paid too much. They influence people's lives and actions (postively) and sometimes inspire people to greater heights. I may be in the minority, but I've only had one teacher that's taught me as much as Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Woody Allen, Al Pacino, Toshiro Mifune, Grace Kelly, and Robert DeNiro have individually.
MsMoviefan
04-07-2003, 11:13 PM
followed by a 40 min question & answer period at a seminar (see May issue "Vanity Fair")
asinine.
If anyone has been inspired by an actor-I would certainly like to know by whom & in what way.
Somethin said? Something done? What?
BE happy to hear it.
An actress who wins an academy award for a movie in which she earned $5 thousand, now asks for $5 million to act in next movie- interesting, if nothing else.
Dumb-Fokker-**
04-07-2003, 11:37 PM
And winning that Oscar automatically puts her in the spotlight. Constant pressure to appear 'above' the common folk, no privacy, an incredibly busy schedule. Trust me, the amount actors and actresses get paid is just fine. You try living in their shoes for a week, and see how easy it is.
BorderEevilIII
04-08-2003, 02:42 AM
Its all about Star Power! Just like the begining 20 minutes of "Simone". http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0258153/simone_5.jpg
Big Star Names comes w/ High Price Tags attached. Just like the conversation Catherine Keener adresses with celebrities and the X-Amount their currently worth. These big celebs like Adrien Brody,Nicole Kidman et al. gets YOU to the theatre. A big celeb rakes in the bucks is what producers & studios always wish for in return when forking the mill to the big celeb.
BakeTheMooCow
04-08-2003, 03:07 AM
Actors definitely get paid way too much and this in turn balloons the budget of the movie. If you think about it.. $100 million dollars is too much for a movie and that's a normal budget in present day Hollywood. I'm no saint myself, but how about we cut salaries and donate money to charities?
If someone like Harrison Ford makes two movies an year, that's $40 million dollars, or more depending on how well the movie does. What would you even do with that much? I can't imagine doing anything more than wasting it away needlessly.
quoth_the_raven
04-08-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by BakeTheMooCow
Actors definitely get paid way too much and this in turn balloons the budget of the movie. If you think about it.. $100 million dollars is too much for a movie and that's a normal budget in present day Hollywood. I'm no saint myself, but how about we cut salaries and donate money to charities?
If someone like Harrison Ford makes two movies an year, that's $40 million dollars, or more depending on how well the movie does. What would you even do with that much? I can't imagine doing anything more than wasting it away needlessly.
ok in a direct step away from other topics, i am gonna agree with this schmoe. i mean, Vin Diesel is getting multi-millions now, and i dont even rate him as an actor. and surely if the salaries were cut, wouldnt this increase the overall profit a film would turn in?i can see that being pretty tempting for the moneymen....
Dumb-Fokker-**
04-08-2003, 01:13 PM
...I don't think this is a discussion about the actual acting, but how much they get paid for it. How about this: what is the price of you loss of privacy? How much do you want in return for always being watched, followed, bothered, busy? Because, really, thats what an actor goes through. And thats what they get paid for - to be stars.
quoth_the_raven
04-08-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**
...I don't think this is a discussion about the actual acting, but how much they get paid for it. How about this: what is the price of you loss of privacy? How much do you want in return for always being watched, followed, bothered, busy? Because, really, thats what an actor goes through. And thats what they get paid for - to be stars.
so they should be compensated for making the decision to place themselves in the public eye in the first place? they made the choice, they set themselves up to be stars. if they cant stand the heat, if they dont like the cons to being a star, then why enter the kitchen in the first place????
Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
so they should be compensated for making the decision to place themselves in the public eye in the first place? they made the choice, they set themselves up to be stars. if they cant stand the heat, if they dont like the cons to being a star, then why enter the kitchen in the first place????
For the multi-million dollar paychecks, probably!
Dumb-Fokker-**
04-08-2003, 01:39 PM
Sorry, but you are sounding a little bitter. They obviously decided to act, because they like to do it. They know what they are getting into, but that doesnt mean that they should decide not to make any money. Besides everything I stated before, think about this; why not? If you were given the chance to make that much, would you spend it all on charity? Half? And besides wanting the money, you might be forgotting that it is hard work to make a film. And its just as hard to promote it. I think the amount they make is justified, and I dont understand why people are so concerned, anyways. Is it a stars job to feed hungry children? No. Maybe in an obscure, humane way, it is; but the same applies to everyone. And its not as if stars dont give back, anyways. You always hear about stars at charity balls, and the like, raising money, and giving money to help with things like this. I just dont see how you can think that, with everything they do - working more in one week than most do in a month (not actual time, but actual work) - they dont deserve that much money. Not everyone is getting 20 million, you know. And even those that are - imagine what a star like that goes through every day. It may seem glamourous, but I can almosr guarantee that it isnt.
quoth_the_raven
04-08-2003, 01:50 PM
Hmmm. i tell you what, i would love to earn that many millions per year. and what do i have to be bitter about? its quite apparent i am never going to see that much money in my entire life, and thats a fact i am more than happy to live with.
its one thing to love to act. and i am sure they all do love to act. but then if they loved it so much, then why would they have to demand such large pay cheques? surely that could still enjoy their acting while taking a bit of a pay cut?
and yes, in all honesty, i would be more than willing to give large chunks of money to charity. and thats not just empty rhetoric, i sincerely would. i am a person of limited desires in life, i dont think i would know where to begin with a huge sum of money like that. i really would not have a clue. i am a moral sort of a guy though. i give money to charity now, even though i am heading pretty deeply into debt. so yes, if i could command $20 million an appearance, you could bet that, for me, a good chunk of that could be used to make a difference.
i agree it probably is hard work to make a film. i dont have the personal experience of working on a film. but who works harder...the nurse on a piss-poor wage, working full time to feed her family, or the actor? whos got the raw deal, the soldier or the actor? and whos getting paid more here?
but, you know, its your opinion dude, and i respect it. i just happen to disagree strongly with you.
Dumb-Fokker-**
04-08-2003, 01:58 PM
Im not arguing with you about the merits of what others should make - nurses should probably make more, but a nurse does nowhere near the amount of work that most actors do. Im not saying that nurses get paid enough; I think they should make more. But, and this applies only to bigger actors, the amount of work they do is quite staggering, and I was surprised to find how limited, and precious even a few minutes of peace and quiet are.
quoth_the_raven
04-08-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**
Im not arguing with you about the merits of what others should make - nurses should probably make more, but a nurse does nowhere near the amount of work that most actors do. Im not saying that nurses get paid enough; I think they should make more. But, and this applies only to bigger actors, the amount of work they do is quite staggering, and I was surprised to find how limited, and precious even a few minutes of peace and quiet are.
that was just an example. i think your getting caught up on the wrong part of my argument.
personalyl, if they love acting, they should feel privileged to be allowed to do it. and while i agree, they do work hard and do deserve a large sum of money, i think some of the sums they charge is just over the top. if they were really enjoying it, surely they wouldn't mind doing it for less?
Ghostface 2000
04-08-2003, 02:17 PM
All these stars tell people to give to chairty for example comic relief but how many of those stars who earn millions of pounds/dollars a year actually give to charity?
quoth_the_raven
04-08-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Ghostface 2000
All these stars tell people to give to chairty for example comic relief but how many of those stars who earn millions of pounds/dollars a year actually give to charity?
i love it when people take my side :D:D
Raoul Duke
04-08-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**
...I don't think this is a discussion about the actual acting, but how much they get paid for it. How about this: what is the price of you loss of privacy? How much do you want in return for always being watched, followed, bothered, busy? Because, really, thats what an actor goes through. And thats what they get paid for - to be stars.
Well they can cry me a god damn river at their beach house in Malibu.
Moviefan1234
04-08-2003, 03:28 PM
I always find it kind of humorous when I see people complaining about how much money actors and actresses make. They have obviously found something they are good at and are effectively using their talent to their advantage. What's the big deal? Instead of complaining why don't you try to do the same?
Mr. Pou Pon
04-08-2003, 03:29 PM
Personally, I think it's more logical that teachers be paid more than actors, actresses, musicians, etc.
The Postmaster General
04-08-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Pou Pon
Personally, I think it's more logical that teachers be paid more than actors, actresses, musicians, etc.
Well, schools don't make BILLIONS of dollars every year. Now do they? You know, if all of the doctors, and lawyers donated money to the school that fostered them, maybe teachers would get paid more.
However, movies make millions of dollars, so they can afford million dollar salaries.
This whole arguement that it's not fair because other professions don't get paid that much is RIDICULOUS.
Hey, all you complainers, when was the last time that, instead of buying a movie ticket, you bought paper and pencils to donate to your local school.
What's that? Oh, you've never done that.
Yeah, fuck those people, let's give the money to the actors. Later we'll do on a self-righteous crusade to make actors look bad for getting paid well.
Puh-leez
If anyone has been inspired by an actor-I would certainly like to know by whom & in what way.
Somethin said? Something done? What?
Yeah, Johnny Depp inspired me to pay 7.50 to see a 2 hour movie. Lot's of other actors inspired me to give them money too. And directors - I like those guys. They are real inspirational.
Jon Lyrik
04-08-2003, 04:41 PM
Salaries are fine, but it's ridiculous to pay an actor over $8mil dollars.
Grebdron
04-08-2003, 04:47 PM
I don't think the salaries are outrageous. Only because it's supply and demand. If their name can draw enough viewers to warrant their salary, fine. If enough of the lemmings flock to see Vin Diesel play the same character over and over, what do I care? I don't contribute to the salaries of people I don't like.
Hmm...I suppose you guys would prefer that these "money-grubbing assholes" just up and stop making films?
I mean, their films have obviously influenced you an awful lot, or else you wouldn't be on this board talking about them right now, would you?
I, for one, am tired of people going on and on about how great some actors latest movie was, and how they love movies so much, and then turning right around and saying "oh, but don't give them 20 million to do so". The money isn't going to you if it doesn't go to them, so let the baby have it's bottle.
MsMoviefan
04-08-2003, 07:54 PM
Actors who want privacy, have it.( Think Merle Streep-great actress.) They don't work any harder the rest of the crew. And they WANT attention! All that is beating around the bush though--------
Why pay an actress millions because she got an oscar nomination for a movie she made for 5 thousand-and get this- the movie you pay her millions for -she stinks in it.
And I never claimed to have been inspired by or influenced by actors and have not called them any names other then actors-those are red herrings to take attention away from the issue. Personally, it is the writer of the story that I think deserves more money. To each his own though.
I loved the comment about Johnny Depp inspiring to pay money for ticket. :-)
Thanks. Great comeback.
Indiana Sev
04-08-2003, 08:08 PM
They're taking as much as they can get, something any of us would do in our jobs if the opportunity presented itself.
Don't blame the actors, it's the studios who are deciding what to pay them, if an actor asks too much the studio could refuse; the reason they don't is because some actors on their own can make a movie a success.
Come on, we would do the same.
The Postmaster General
04-09-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by MsMoviefan
Personally, it is the writer of the story that I think deserves more money. To each his own though.
I loved the comment about Johnny Depp inspiring to pay money for ticket. :-)
Thanks. Great comeback.
Thanks, Miss. It's good 'cause it's true.
As far as who deserves more money, really it comes down to name recognition.
I'm with you, a cool writer is going to sell me ticket faster than a cool actor -- and the same with directors.
However, we're in the minority of the ticket buying market.
More people are willing to see a movie because of an actor, than because of a director.
That's why I currently have enormous respect for what Charlie Kaufman has done for the Hollywood screenwriter -- he made one a star.
italmafia
04-09-2003, 06:33 PM
I completly agree with the fact that actors get paid too much... i mean fuckin shit these people make millions of dollars per movie or whatever... and still end up being miserable and doing drugs or something....i mean what's left for us....it's not like im pissed about the fact that after 5 years of studying my ass off in university ill be making only 50 000 $ a year ...but that's not the point... you all complain that these people make a lot of money...but it's in fact YOUR FAULT!!!! Who buys movie tickets, rents movies, buys dvd's or cd's...we do... so STOP fuck*** doing it!!!! ...im not saying to stop living, just dont always give in to the bullshit their selling!!! (Why buy when you can download)
And another issue... some of you said that these people are well paid considering the privacy issue...im sorry but with 20 mil you could buy a hell of a lot of privacy on your yacht in the carribean!!
If they paid me 20 million, id stick a camera down my pants, and if somebody laughed at me, id wave my gold pen** in front of him/her...
Yeah, people, Come on! Those copyright laws are begging to be broken!!:rolleyes:
Why do I buy instead of download?
A) Because I've got 56K
B) Because I actually APPRECIATE the film industry, which I aspire to be a part of. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't buy DVDs, CDs, posters, or anything that I want to. Why take money away from something that everyone on this board loves so much? It's pretty illogical to even suggest, IMO.
quoth_the_raven
04-10-2003, 03:46 AM
why buy when can download?
hmmm, i dont know. i admit, i am shallow, i like the nice shiny cases on my Dvd's. and like Bob, i appreciate the film industry and all the good times it has given me. id rather pay for it, get some money into the company. and one day, my £17.99 for a dvd will be back on screen albeit in a small way. why buy when we can download? if people didnt buy, it would be very hard for the industry to keep on going.
Moviefan1234
04-10-2003, 05:47 AM
Downloading is low-class and I don't and won't do it. I appreciate and respect the industry way too much. And italmafia, you'd be suprised how little of the $20 million they get to keep.
italmafia
04-10-2003, 06:40 AM
Ok, you respect the industry ( you must be american!!! ) then your contributing to Tom Cruise's wallet...i said the things i said for the people that complain about their salaries..if you dont care then blow your money, you think people get rich by bying other people's shit!! Anyway all im saying is if you dont like the way Hollywood works, then stop buying what their selling. People complain that they make too much money, but then continue to go to the movie, such hypocrites. I for one will not stand for it...i never bought a cd or a dvd in my life...and i haven't regreted it!!!
By the way, you said i should be surprized of how much the 20 mil the get to keep...first of all it's 20 mil just for one movie!! Secound so the actors pay taxes like everyone else, what's your point?? Im sorry but the money they make during one movie (after all deductables) is still more then ill make all my life...
Moviefan1234
04-10-2003, 02:53 PM
First off, a very select few actors are in the $20 million dollar club. Second, they lose about 75% of their money to all the people working for them (agent, security, lawyer, etc.). Third, what's wrong with me supplying money to an actor whose films I enjoy? I'm happy to help him out. He's given me hours and hours and many hours to come of entertainment and joy.
Oh, and what's wrong with being American?
quoth_the_raven
04-10-2003, 03:03 PM
ummm to pick a flaw in your argument here italmafia, i respect the industry and i am british
:D:D
Dumb-Fokker-**
04-10-2003, 05:21 PM
To pick another flaw in his argument, most American films (i.e. Hollywood) make more money abroad, than they do domestically. So, I dont think liking Hollywood is synonomous with being American.
MsMoviefan
04-10-2003, 07:29 PM
I am really impressed with David E Kelly who wrote a weekly story for years (Ally McBeal) also, Aaron Sorkin who writes weely stories for West Wing. I am impressed by screenwriters & all these people prob make less than actors who make millions-I will never agree that they(actors) deserve millions to act in a movie. I do however think that movies are worth going to,because a movie is considerably less money than a book. I have no problem with paying for movies or for Dvd's that I want -which are also often cheaper than a book . I am talking about actor's salaries-(who mouth the words of the & thoughts of the writer.) As for movies- "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" was made for $5mill & earned a couple hundred mill. "Blair Witch" -hand held camers & unknown actors mad multi mill. I love it! Great. Go for it, with your ideas & creativity.
Actors salary is different story. Esp when actor is in movie in which the special effects is the real star.Also, I attend moviesthat look interesting to me, I do not go to jsee an actor, no matter how much I like him if I am not interested in seeing the movie based on the trailer.Period.
And the movie would not be up there if only the actors showed up to work and no one else, no crew, -all those other hardworking & creative people.
Moviefan1234
04-11-2003, 04:55 AM
I agree, screenwriters should get more.
jackson13
04-11-2003, 12:13 PM
Alright check this out italmafia. You may have never bought a cd or dvd in your life, but your still contributing to some actors salary, gauranteed. Say you go out and by a 12 pack of Pepsi. Bam, you just help pay Ozzy Osbourne or Beyonce Knowles or Britney Spears or whatever celebrity is doing ads for the company this week. They get a nice little chunk from each sale of Pepsi, believe me. Or how bout this, you go out and by a Buick. Some of that money goes to Tiger Woods for doing Buick comercials, or Michael Jordan with Hanes/Gatorade/Nike. No matter what you do any more somehow contributes to celebrities.
Getting back to actors being paid millions, the only thing that pisses me off is what happened with Vinny D. The man goes from 2 million for FATF to 20 million for xXx. Why? Because his greedy ass thinks he's the greatest action hero ever and wont work for less than 20 million now? What a crock of shit! I wish I had the power to bitch about the money I make and have someone come along and up it. Hell I do bitch about the money I make, but no one gives a shit so I dont get a raise. Its not fair. Diesel shouldnt be making over 3 million a film. He's talentless. I have more talent than he does and im a fucking assistant manager at a goddamn grocery store.
The Postmaster General
04-11-2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by MsMoviefan
I am talking about actor's salaries-(who mouth the words of the & thoughts of the writer.)
Have you every asked yourself, "If acting is so easy, why don't the writers do it?"
MsMoviefan
04-11-2003, 10:11 PM
I remember how critics said Kneau Reeves could not act. Yet, "Matrix" looked so good, it was popular & successful. People went to the movie brecause it looked like it would be a good movie. Don't tell "Hollywood" they don't have to pay extra millions to an actor to get people to the movie or they will stop doing it.
If writers WANTED to act, they would.
Moviefan1234
04-12-2003, 04:47 AM
Personally, I think critics are way too hard on some actors. Keanu Reeves is a pretty good actor, in my opinon. He's not in Jack's league, but he's still a good actor and brings the crowds. Actors are what bring the crowds and that's why they deserve the dough.
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