DVD clinic has finally made me angry

[chinton]

You know I've never been really angry by any of the reviews around here but I have to say I was personally insulted by the Harry Potter DVD sequel review in the DVD clinic. I don't mind that he didn't like it, but at many points he plainly stated that any perosn over 16 shouldn't enjoy it since its made for children. He even alluded the same thing about the books. So does that mean if I am a die hard fan of the book and relatively enjoyed the movies that Im a childish and stupid 20 year old. You can not like a movie but thanks insulting any Harry Potter fan out there

I had no idea where to put this so I put it here.

[The Other]

Yea, it was a bit much. It's no secret that I'm a big fan of the films/books and I'm 20.

But he kept going on and on about how he couldn't fathom anyone over like 12 enjoying them and that he wouldn't want to know anyone who did.

[Damned Martian]

I think this thread should be in the Rant section.
Anyway, whoever criticise movies in that way doesn't deserve any respect from me.

[Slim]

I don't read the reviews anymore. The assessment is terrible. I only bother reading the Digital Bits reviews.

[Slim]

:p I just read the review by Indiana. I like how he said this should really be entertaining to CHILDREN! But for adults it will not provide the intellectual and emotional satistfaction. Sorry to all those Harry Potter fans, but I agree. An adult Harry Potter fan is not cool, IMHO. I watch kids movies sometimes, but I really don't enjoy them like I used to ten years ago. I think Harry Potter is lame, just like how I think Goosebump books and old Disney movies are now lame.

[sleekproductions]

All I Have To Say Is... Bah! Bah To All Of You!

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by SlimX
An adult Harry Potter fan is not cool, IMHO. .

Have you ever read the books? If not you really shouldn't talk.

[The Shootin Surgeon]

Originally posted by sleekproductions
All I Have To Say Is... Bah! Bah To All Of You!


How dare you Sir?!?!? I say, Bah to YOU!! ;)

[Annie Hall]

Originally posted by SlimX
An adult Harry Potter fan is not cool, IMHO.

I do not fall into this category...but...heavens tibetsy...I better stop liking these books when I turn 18! I wouldn't want to be "uncool" :rolleyes:

[dh1989]

I also felt it was a bit rude and entirely over-the-top. He does not have to like the film (JoBlo wrote a respectable bad review of the first Potter film here (http://www.joblo.com/harrypotter.htm)), but to say everyone over 15 will feel like a jackass watching it is, for lack of a better word, dumb. At least he found the time to call all Potter fans "Harry Potheads". Points for originality...... :rolleyes:

P.S. I hope this review does not come off as mean to Indiana Sev, I do not want it to, but I can't help from feeling this review is childish.

[Slim]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Have you ever read the books? If not you really shouldn't talk.

I have a younger brother and I was forced to read the books outloud to him. Since he's a terrible reader and all his friends were reading the books.

[Slim]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Have you ever read the books? If not you really shouldn't talk.

Looking at your profile, Horrow whore. I see that you are turning seventeen years old this July 22nd. So yeah, you would be in the older crowd of Harry Potter fanatics. Didn't mean to offend you, but like those toys with recommended ages, Harry Potter is not intended for the mature audience.

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by dh1989
but to say everyone over 15 will feel like a jackass watching it is, for lack of a better word, dumb.

That's funny I thought I wrote that... (and I quote):

... I felt like a jackass.."

Note the "I" in that sentence. I don't remember saying that everyone over 15 will feel like a jackass, I don't remember saying it because I NEVER DID. I'm wondering now, what else you may have misunderstood in my review?

I also wrote.."I can't recommend this film to anyone over the age of 15..."

Did I say that people over the age of 15 won't enjoy it? No, I said that I wouldn't suggest this film to anyone over the age of 15. Yes, there is difference, you see. Maybe everybody who read this review is still hangin' with Harry at Hogwarts, but here on planet earth that review of mine seems to have been either misunderstood or intentionally misrepresented on these posts. You see there's that joking and sarcasm of mine again, it's not all serious folks, I just like mixing it up once in a while.

I love most Disney films (own many in fact) and enjoy many other children's films (THE IRON GIANT, SHREK) and the one's I like all have something "extra" or "special" about them, this one didn't and I felt silly watching it, should I have held back on that feeling to prevent from offending fans of the movie? Nope, I don't think so.

I'm glad you all like the movie and I realize I'm in a minority of people who got nothing from it. I'm a big movie buff and I like seeing people excited over their favorite films.Good for you for enjoying it so much. I felt kind of childish watching it (ME, not the entire population of the world over the age of 20). So be it. I certainly won't be the ONLY adult who gets nothing from this film, hey, everyone has different personalties.

I wasn't being vicious at all, for those of you who are used to my past reviews, you would realize that I often joke around and keep things light but I'm always honest. I don't think that idiot John Cleese is amusing in the least and I think his stupid appearances in the films actually do the Harry Potter films harm. Also the villains were waaaay to open about it and the whole ending was way to cheery and sappy; geez it made me nauseous. Blech!

I certainly won't back down from the review and I will be willing to intelligently debate any points anybody is willing to bring up from said review. I'll go on as long as it takes, this is how confident I am in my assessment of the movie.

Also you may have noticed that I often play around with people's names in ALL my reviews, in this one I played around with Dick Harris, Kenny Branaugh, Harry Potsmoker, etc. I do this in all my reviews, I realize it's not particularly witty or funny, but I get a kick out of it and I think it adds a bit of a change from your average review. So please don't bring up my supposed attempt at humour because it's a personal touch and doesn't have anything to do with your actual disagreement of my points on the film. Or bring it up if you wish, it'll just prove you don't have any real points to debate.

You'll also notice (if you visit the actual site more than once a month and NOT just the discussion boards), that JoBlo also has a very unorthodox reviewing style, THAT'S what makes his reviews and his site different from others.

Can I write an extremely intelligent, detailed and deep movie review if I want? Sure, I choose not to, because this is more fun.

Now if you don't mind I'm going to start reading some of these boring Harry Potter books to see what all the goddamn fuss is about.;)

Bring it on, if you still have the guts.

I got my magic wand, right here!:D

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by chinton
I don't mind that he didn't like it, but at many points he plainly stated that any perosn over 16 shouldn't enjoy it since its made for children. He even alluded the same thing about the books. So does that mean if I am a die hard fan of the book and relatively enjoyed the movies that Im a childish and stupid 20 year old.


Here are two quotes from my review...

1) But in the end, I can't heartily recommend this film to anyone over the age of 15 because the truth is that I felt very silly watching it.



2)I don’t care what anybody says about the “sacred” Harry Potter books and now the film versions of them, but they're for CHILDREN. Will adults enjoy it? Maybe, but I certainly don’t want to hang out with any adults that had a blast watching Harry Potter.


Hmmm, did I say any person over 16 SHOULDN'T enjoy it?

NOPE!

Just because you like a movie that I think is mostly for children doesn't make you childish, I never said that or alluded to it, the truth is I don't even think it. You're the one who assumes that's what I meant.

Of course I don't think adults that like the Harry Potter movies are stupid or childish. If my mind worked that way then I would be stupid, wouldn't I?

You seem to be trying to imply many of my intentions here. You better come up with better points against the review than that if you want Indiana to stick around this thread...:rolleyes:

[Cronos]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Really, I'm 16 and i wouldn't enjoy this film, i've seen the trailers for both the films but not seen either.

from what i saw, the kids acting is terrible, the script is bad and overall the story plainly rips off everything else that there is, none of the names are original, i will not even touch one of the books, there's so many things wrong with this,

all copies of the films and books should be burned, and hollywood should start making decent ORIGINAL flicks that are worth seeing.

i rarely will rant about how bad a films is because I'm open to others opinions so i may see something in a different light, but my opinion about this will never chage

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Cronos
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Really, I'm 16 and i wouldn't enjoy this film, i've seen the trailers for both the films but not seen either.



:)

Cronos, don't bother renting it, it's got a 48-minute Quidditch match and not-much-else!;)

[Slim]

Damn this thread made some noise! Indiana had to post and all. Well, whatever. I still think Harry Potter is lame. :D

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by SlimX
Harry Potter is not intended for the mature audience.

Says who? You? I don't really believe you when you say you've read the books, if you have you'd certainly know that the books are a great read for all ages alike, children and adults. I think it's pretty immature to make fun of people for liking something....

[MisterTwister]

Harry Potter is not that bad, I kinda enjoyed the first movie and i just rented the second one and i am ready for a good movie. The only reviews i really read are Joblo's and Arrow's. I may disagree sometimes but there reviews are not boring and are fun to read (Arrow's Teenage Caveman is a hoot!) Anyways Harry potter is for everyone of any age.

[quoth_the_raven]

hmmm time for some kind of a middle ground from a 20 year old. although i am a big fan of the HP novels (i do like a good read) the films have been a bit so-so. i mean they are ok, and i enjoyed them as a bit of bronky fun, but they arent really jaw-dropping to me. i will watch them and chuckle merrily along, all the time remembering not to take them as anything other than a bit of a bronk around. they just appeal to my sense of humour.


bleh, id rather read the books, cause that radcliffe kid is an awful actor...

oh,the shits really going to hit the fan with that one lol!!!!!!

[Sad man]

I really like the books and I don´t care what other people say about them, I still like them.
The first movie was really good(8/10), but the sequel was too childish IMO and too long(6/10).

[Annie Hall]

Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
hmmm time for some kind of a middle ground from a 20 year old. although i am a big fan of the HP novels (i do like a good read) the films have been a bit so-so. i mean they are ok, and i enjoyed them as a bit of bronky fun, but they arent really jaw-dropping to me. i will watch them and chuckle merrily along, all the time remembering not to take them as anything other than a bit of a bronk around. they just appeal to my sense of humour.


bleh, id rather read the books, cause that radcliffe kid is an awful actor...

oh,the shits really going to hit the fan with that one lol!!!!!!

I fully agree...the books are much better...but the movies are watchable. :)

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

Never seen it and dont have any intention of seeing it.

But I respect Indiana's opinion and it seems he's pissed off some Harry fans, much like Joblo did when he reviewed the movies.

C'mon if you like it, thats all that matters? Right?

[Slim]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Says who? You? I don't really believe you when you say you've read the books, if you have you'd certainly know that the books are a great read for all ages alike, children and adults. I think it's pretty immature to make fun of people for liking something....

So you are saying if I had read the books that I would have found them a great read for all ages? Is that your astute assumption? Or just a fallacy in your arguement?

First of all, I have probably read more works of literature than you have. I'm assuming this based on the number of years I have spent reading compared to you. And I read a lot! Therefore, I will state that IMO Harry Potter is very derivative. There's nothing fresh or thought-provoking about it. It's just a rehash jazzed up with children wizards, silly villians and cute creatures designed and marketed to appeal to children. That's not saying the byproduct of it won't attract an older crowd, but I doubt J.K. Rowling was aiming to please people of all ages. She knows who her readers are. Say it with me now...CHILDREN!

Also my intent was not to insult anyone who liked Harry Potter, I'm just stating my opinion. Everyone is entitled to one, right? Or do I have to dodge all the flaming broomsticks aimed at my head?

[tarch3120]

I am 23 and I felt the movies were okay to a certain degree. I have read all four books and will continue to for the plain fact that they carry on until Harry Potter turns 18 so I am expecting the books to take an adult turn as they already seem to be. The fourth book was very dark in nature compared to the first three, so I want to see what happens.

[dh1989]

Originally posted by Bullet Tooth Tony
But I respect Indiana's opinion and it seems he's pissed off some Harry fans, much like Joblo did when he reviewed the movies.

The thing is, JoBlo did not piss me off. Sure, I was a bit sad he did not like the first Harry Potter film, but I thought his review was well-written, non-childish, and thoughtful.

[Jon Lyrik]

I found Sev's review to be quite rude myself.

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by SlimX
She knows who her readers are. Say it with me now...CHILDREN!

Also my intent was not to insult anyone who liked Harry Potter, I'm just stating my opinion. Everyone is entitled to one, right? Or do I have to dodge all the flaming broomsticks aimed at my head?

It seems somebody out there understands where I'm coming from. If there are any adults out there who don't feel silly watching it, kudos to you. But I felt VERY silly watching it, in fact I'd go so far as to say it might be too childish for teenagers and young children as well.

With all the sophisticated children's movies nowadays, the Harry Potter movies (all together now...IN MY OPINION) are below average as far as creativity and entertainment value goes. The humour just doesn't come close to the level of comedy that children's movies have reached in recent years.

Sorry Harry, you just don't do it for me.:(

[SimplePlanGurl8]

I'm in the i guess younger age group but I love the movies the books didn't really grab my attentoin as much but teh movies were quite entertaining

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Horror whore
Have you ever read the books? If not you really shouldn't talk.
Very well said, im not an adult and i read the review and i was really upset, it was like he was already hating it before he watched it. He said Dobby (who was great) was a retarded version of gollum! This is an outrage! I reallly didn't like his review and I think any adulty who had a "BLAST" watching Harry potter is a good, warm hearted, normal person! Gosh.

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Bullet Tooth Tony
Never seen it and dont have any intention of seeing it.

But I respect Indiana's opinion and it seems he's pissed off some Harry fans, much like Joblo did when he reviewed the movies.

C'mon if you like it, thats all that matters? Right?

no first muggles then the world!

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Cronos
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Really, I'm 16 and i wouldn't enjoy this film, i've seen the trailers for both the films but not seen either.

from what i saw, the kids acting is terrible, the script is bad and overall the story plainly rips off everything else that there is, none of the names are original, i will not even touch one of the books, there's so many things wrong with this,

all copies of the films and books should be burned, and hollywood should start making decent ORIGINAL flicks that are worth seeing.

i rarely will rant about how bad a films is because I'm open to others opinions so i may see something in a different light, but my opinion about this will never chage

You Havn't read the books? You haven't seen the movies? You hate the whole harry Potter thing? Well, I don't think that is a very kind thing to say untill you see the actual movie which is brilliant, funny, dark, and most of all great entertainment. So please don't say you hate anything unless you really can esperience it, if you turn out not to like it after seeing the movie tahts fine but to say you hate it before seeing the movie isn't that a little... unfair?

[Raoul Duke]

Originally posted by DevilMonkey
Very well said, im not an adult and i read the review and i was really upset, it was like he was already hating it before he watched it. He said Dobby (who was great) was a retarded version of gollum! This is an outrage! I reallly didn't like his review and I think any adulty who had a "BLAST" watching Harry potter is a good, warm hearted, normal person! Gosh.

Hahah, he said Dobby was a retarded version of Gollum, LOL, that's freakin' HI-larious!

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Raoul Duke
Hahah, he said Dobby was a retarded version of Gollum, LOL, that's freakin' HI-larious!

No its not funny, Dobby and gollum are completl;y different Charcters! Gollum was once a hobbit and Dobby is a house elf. Ur!

[Cronos]

Originally posted by DevilMonkey
You Havn't read the books? You haven't seen the movies? You hate the whole harry Potter thing? Well, I don't think that is a very kind thing to say untill you see the actual movie which is brilliant, funny, dark, and most of all great entertainment. So please don't say you hate anything unless you really can esperience it, if you turn out not to like it after seeing the movie tahts fine but to say you hate it before seeing the movie isn't that a little... unfair?

Actually, i think it's perfectly fair, if i know i wont enjoy something why should i give even a though of giving it a chance.....It's like i know i'll hate all the sequels to things like Land Before Time (i loved this first film) and i can judge what i will enjoy...and it's no different from people saying things like they'll not ejoy Jeepers Creepers 2 or Ho1000K when they haven't seen them....

You like the films and thats your opinion but my opinion is that i wont and i dont see why i should prove that by watching this crap and waste time i could spend doing something interesting or watching a film i will enjoy

[Droog989]

It's one person's opinion in the end. Let him think what you want, and sure it's insulting, but just because he says such a thing doesn't mean you have to listen. Personally the only DVD reviews i ever really listen to (technical wise too, DVD clinic's technical criticism is sketchy at best) is ign's dvd section. its quite thorough and well done.

I really only go to JoBlo for his reviews, and The Arrow's reviews (because they both do bang-up jobs as everyone here knows :D )

Don't let the guy get to you. I'm not a Potter fan and I found the review a little forward (he obviously has something against Potter in general). Just ignore it, and check what he had to say about the extras as so forth. For example, if he thought the extra scenes were more of the same or something, thats a good thing, because he didn't like "the same". anyways, or don't whatever :)

[bob]

I thought the books were passable, entertaining little nothings (and I mean that in the most positive fashion). The films, however, were laughable in every aspect. I think Sev's review was spot-on.

[quoth_the_raven]

hmmm much as i like the books and find the films a good laugh as a one-off, does it really matter if someone dislikes either the film or book, and exercises a free choice not to participate? in a word:no. to each their own and all that.


and for whats it worth, i like sev's review. it was honest, funny and well written. so what if you disagree with it? seeing as you all have your own opinions, what does it really matter? that review isnt going to change your mind if you disagree with it.

and why slag people for not being into potter? its a personal choice. everyone has the right to do, say, think and indeed write what they want, with the confines of what is legal.

[chinton]

I guess I better pop back in since I started this thread


The point is not whether anybody like HP or not. Its your opinion but its how you present it. The DVD review came off as insulting to me not because he didnt like the movie or the books but becuase he blasted older people who liked them.


I swear if I said that the LOTR movies were sacharine and so melodramatic (everytime Frodo screams that no when Gandlaf dies I crack up) and people who enjoy them are childish then I would be blasted on this board becuase what I said would be rude to the fans. I really dont like the LOTR movies. I find them all quite silly but if you like them thats your opinion.

Kepp in mind I was making an example. Lets not turn this into a LOT vs HP debate

[Country1969]

I really enjoyed the Harry Potter movies and I am 33. What's wrong with older people liking movies like these? Just remember who made these movies that young people like.
No one should be judged on what they like.


Movies are for entertainment pleasure, no matter what age you might be......


I love Harry Potter and LOTR movies.

[Nate6]

Guess what, guys? Reviews are about these little things called opinions. Opinions are statements not based on fact but on personal conclusions. The writer of the review stated that he could not fathom anyone over a certain age enjoying Harry Potter. That doesn't mean that you can't. He never stated that you are a lesser person for enjoying them. If you actually find this person's opinion personally insulting, maybe you should read the review again. I'm sorry, but I do not see how it could be hurtful in the slightest.

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Cronos
Actually, i think it's perfectly fair, if i know i wont enjoy something why should i give even a though of giving it a chance.....It's like i know i'll hate all the sequels to things like Land Before Time (i loved this first film) and i can judge what i will enjoy...and it's no different from people saying things like they'll not ejoy Jeepers Creepers 2 or Ho1000K when they haven't seen them....

You like the films and thats your opinion but my opinion is that i wont and i dont see why i should prove that by watching this crap and waste time i could spend doing something interesting or watching a film i will enjoy :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Nate6
Guess what, guys? Reviews are about these little things called opinions. Opinions are statements not based on fact but on personal conclusions. The writer of the review stated that he could not fathom anyone over a certain age enjoying Harry Potter. That doesn't mean that you can't. He never stated that you are a lesser person for enjoying them. If you actually find this person's opinion personally insulting, maybe you should read the review again. I'm sorry, but I do not see how it could be hurtful in the slightest.

Well put.

Thanks for understanding, Nate6.:)

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Droog989


Don't let the guy get to you. I'm not a Potter fan and I found the review a little forward (he obviously has something against Potter in general).

Okay, you win, I admit it, I've always had something against him! This review was my way of getting revenge...Harry Potter...he...he...

...RAPED my sister!:(

;)

I just thought I'd add a bit of levity to these proceedings. :D
(although I doubt my sister will think that's funny)

Seriously though, I've got a lot of respect for you Potter fans now. You're obviously very passionate for the HP films and thinking that I intentionally bashed the poor kid just to fool around you all decided to stand up for the movies. Good show.

Anyway, I'm willing to kiss and make up.........are you?

*especially if there are any cutie female schmoes over 18.:)

[DevilMonkey]

I forgive you .

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by DevilMonkey
I forgive you .

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw.

[Scarface98.9]

Originally posted by dh1989
The thing is, JoBlo did not piss me off. Sure, I was a bit sad he did not like the first Harry Potter film, but I thought his review was well-written, non-childish, and thoughtful.
This goes more for the legions of Potter fans who are easily aggitated by bad reviews. There's many fans of all franchises that don't read the reviews and bash based on the number grades

[Dignan]

Yeah guys, its just one guys opinion about a movie. It may not be well written or mature in your opinion, but I generally enjoy all of theSevsters reviews. And just because he enjjoys bashing a particularly well regarded film(I think Harry sucks no matter how well regarded) that isn't any reason to incite a riot. Its his right to bash it all he wants, as it is mine.

Heres an example-
"Man Harry Potters last movie was SO bad that it actually caused my testicles to implode. I have reconstructive surgery Friday, by the way..."

See? Its that easy. And you Harry Potter fans can't do a GODDAM thing, you know why? Two words- Nuclear fuckin weapons OK!?
Yoou can all the democracy you want- you ca have a nice little democracy cake walk right through the middle of Tienemen Square and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. John Waynes not dead hes just frozen! And when we find a cure for cancer and wake him up hes gonna be pretty pissed. Why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Multiply that by 50 Million and thats how pissed the dukes gonna be. And then-

WOAH-I think I was just possesed by the demon spirit of Denis Leary. MAn, I gotta watch that.

Anyway, give it a rest guys. Between you guys and the hardcore Tolkien fans who got there panties in a wad over Jo's review of TTT, I'm a little sick of hearing how truly MAGICAL these films are and how they will be classics for years to come(ok, LOTR will but not Potter. LOTR RULES!). Give me a break.


Oh and by the way- Potter aint exactly the end all be all in the world of cinema guys. He may be hot shit in the literary world, but lets face facts- Roald Dahls a big influence in the books. Not that that is a bad thing.


Ok rant over. Ready to be crucified by 11 year old Quidditchplayers lead by there fearless um, - leaders-Horror Whore and DH1989.

Hey guys, do ya think we could leave out the crown of thorns? I have kind of a sensitive scalp. Thanks.

[Horror whore]

Good luck with your imploded testicles....

[Slim]

Originally posted by Dignan
Yeah guys, its just one guys opinion about a movie. It may not be well written or mature in your opinion, but I generally enjoy all of theSevsters reviews. And just because he enjjoys bashing a particularly well regarded film(I think Harry sucks no matter how well regarded) that isn't any reason to incite a riot. Its his right to bash it all he wants, as it is mine.

Heres an example-
"Man Harry Potters last movie was SO bad that it actually caused my testicles to implode. I have reconstructive surgery Friday, by the way..."

See? Its that easy. And you Harry Potter fans can't do a GODDAM thing, you know why? Two words- Nuclear fuckin weapons OK!?
Yoou can all the democracy you want- you ca have a nice little democracy cake walk right through the middle of Tienemen Square and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. John Waynes not dead hes just frozen! And when we find a cure for cancer and wake him up hes gonna be pretty pissed. Why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Multiply that by 50 Million and thats how pissed the dukes gonna be. And then-

WOAH-I think I was just possesed by the demon spirit of Denis Leary. MAn, I gotta watch that.

Anyway, give it a rest guys. Between you guys and the hardcore Tolkien fans who got there panties in a wad over Jo's review of TTT, I'm a little sick of hearing how truly MAGICAL these films are and how they will be classics for years to come(ok, LOTR will but not Potter. LOTR RULES!). Give me a break.


Oh and by the way- Potter aint exactly the end all be all in the world of cinema guys. He may be hot shit in the literary world, but lets face facts- Roald Dahls a big influence in the books. Not that that is a bad thing.


Ok rant over. Ready to be crucified by 11 year old Quidditchplayers lead by there fearless um, - leaders-Horror Whore and DH1989.

Hey guys, do ya think we could leave out the crown of thorns? I have kind of a sensitive scalp. Thanks.

Ha ha! That's so good. Roald Dahl rules! His classic children books are great, in fact, I have a nice collection of them.

Anyway, I'll continue to keep quiet on this matter, don't want to upset any overzealous fans. Still recovering from the last backlash I got from the hardcore Harry Potter community.

[Horror whore]

Originally posted by SlimX
Anyway, I'll continue to keep quiet on this matter, don't want to upset any overzealous fans. Still recovering from the last backlash I got from the hardcore Harry Potter community.

Good idea.

[Dignan]

Thanks Horror Whore. Sorry about getting on my soap box, I'm just sick of getting chewed out at my lunch table every day at school for not liking Harry Potter.

Oh, and after the first three days after having your boys implode it isn't all that bad. I get through with my good friend Mr.Morphine.
AHhhhhh.... sweet, sweet morphine......
:p

[DevilMonkey]

Originally posted by Dignan

Ok rant over. Ready to be crucified by 11 year old Quidditchplayers lead by there fearless um, - leaders-Horror Whore and DH1989.


You forgot me!

[JCPhoenix]

I thought the books were entertaining (with each newer one being better than the previous) and the movies were as well (but not to the same degree the books were).

Still, I don't think Harry Potter will be regarded as a "children"'s series in years to come, because we still have 5, 6, and 7 to come, and each one of them Harry gets older, and the books get a little more darker and more adult in nature. While the last 3 books haven't come out yet, the 4th book is certainly the most complex in the series, and i love the open ending (i'm hopeful they'll turn the series darker once they hit the 4th movie as well), and so I think it's safe to assume that the 3 last books will be more mature.

Besides, my cousin's 22, and he read and loved the Harry Potter books...


he's also certainly not "childish"

btw, this isn't really ranting against that review but more an excuse for me to give my stance on what i think of the hp series. I don't think that review by Indiana Sev was as bad as it was made out to be here, but there are also some things in that review that i would disagree with. i'll leave it at that.

[Dignan]

How could I forget Devil Monkey? Here man, I'll let you nail me up buddy.


OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW! This whole crucifiction thing might not have been such a good idea after all. Oh well.

*Sings* ala Life w/ Brian: Always look on the bright side of life....

[quoth_the_raven]

Originally posted by JCPhoenix

Besides, my cousin's 22, and he read and loved the Harry Potter books...


he's also certainly not "childish"

.


i am 20 years old and i fully admit to be hugely immature and childish :)



age doesnt always equal maturity.

[Jim H]

Therefore, I will state that IMO Harry Potter is very derivative. There's nothing fresh or thought-provoking about it.

I tend to agree. The slight bits of satire are nice, and I still find them good books. I own one or two of them. My sister likes them REALLY a lot though - she's 24.

Sorry to all those Harry Potter fans, but I agree. An adult Harry Potter fan is not cool, IMHO. I watch kids movies sometimes, but I really don't enjoy them like I used to ten years ago.

You seemed to alter your opinion by saying you liked Roald Dahl a lot, but this still bugs me, so I'm replying to it anyways.

WTF is wrong with liking kids movies? Do you not like A Christmas Story, or the Wizard of Oz? Or ALL of the Disney movies? Or, as mentioned before, all the books of Roahl Dahl (I always manage to spell that wrong.. Ah well). I still enjoy reading Dr. Suess once in a great while, or a lesser known master, Bill Peet. How about Toy Story?

[The Shootin Surgeon]

I think a conclusion can be reached out of all of this: The DVD Clinic critics are both illiterate fools!!!!!;)

[quoth_the_raven]

Originally posted by The Shootin' Surgeon
I think a conclusion can be reached out of all of this: The DVD Clinic critics are both illiterate fools!!!!!;)


yeah, especially sev ;) i mean doesnt even like harry potter...hes destroyed his career in critic-ing with that one...:D:D

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by The Shootin' Surgeon
I think a conclusion can be reached out of all of this: The DVD Clinic critics are both illiterate fools!!!!!;)

Maybe because we both went to the same high school.

And were both suspended if I remember correctly.:D

Ah, those were the days...

[BakeTheMooCow]

Originally posted by Cronos
Actually, i think it's perfectly fair, if i know i wont enjoy something why should i give even a though of giving it a chance.....It's like i know i'll hate all the sequels to things like Land Before Time (i loved this first film) and i can judge what i will enjoy...and it's no different from people saying things like they'll not ejoy Jeepers Creepers 2 or Ho1000K when they haven't seen them....

You like the films and thats your opinion but my opinion is that i wont and i dont see why i should prove that by watching this crap and waste time i could spend doing something interesting or watching a film i will enjoy Well said. That is exactly my point of view on the Harry Potter films and books. I did see a bit of the first movie and turned it off because I hated what I saw. When I say I don't want to watch the whole first movie or the sequel because I KNOW it will suck, people say I'm judging a movie before seeing it. Yet, these same people judge movies before they see them. Click on Upcoming Movie Talk to see how many folks say they are not going to see a movie based on the cast, the premise, the trailer, etc. Is that not the same thing? Its only because they are so in love with the Harry Potter franchise that they get so worked up.

I'll never watch the films no matter how many sequels are made and how many books are written and how successful they are. Excellent review, Indiana Sev. I dig reading all the reviews written on this site because they are funny and entertaining and I can see exactly where you're coming from.

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by BakeTheMooCow
Excellent review, Indiana Sev. I dig reading all the reviews written on this site because they are funny and entertaining and I can see exactly where you're coming from.

You are a true gentleman BakeTheMooCow!

Thank you, kind sir.

We all appreciate those words very much. So much in fact, JoBlo.com will be sending you both HP films in the mail, brand spanking new! Just pm me your address and we'll be...;) ;)

P.S. Love the new avatar...I watched Dr.Strangleove again the other night...it rocked. Sterling Hayden gives a brilliant performance!

[Jim H]

While you already know this, I have seen bits and pieces of the sequels to The Land Before Time (one of my favorite kids movies). I have this piece of advice: AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS. I saw part of one, and it somehow made the original just a bit worse. :mad:

I mean, there are songs. WTF?

[BakeTheMooCow]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
You are a true gentleman BakeTheMooCow!

Thank you, kind sir.

We all appreciate those words very much. So much in fact, JoBlo.com will be sending you both HP films in the mail, brand spanking new! Just pm me your address and we'll be...;) ;)

P.S. Love the new avatar...I watched Dr.Strangleove again the other night...it rocked. Sterling Hayden gives a brilliant performance! No problem. Its the truth and I'm more than happy to commend people when they deserve it. And you guys deserve it.

Thanks about the avatar. I love that scene when he's staring like that and I thought it deserved its own avatar ;)

http://web.utk.edu/~hughes00/strangestare.jpg

[redleaf]

Darn, between the religious zealots telling me not to rent Harry Potter because they say it is witchcraft and the jaded, sarcastic, wanna be film-smiths rolling their eyes at it for being mega-successful I just think that it is more then enough to have to deal with. Even people at the check out are rolling their eyes when you purchase it. What gives? I didnt see them rolling their eyes for anyone who rented Wizard of Oz.


And there are surely more older people into the wiz. Should they grow up?


Harry is popular and for the most part squeaky clean, hence it earns a razz from the jaded crowd.

Its getting to the point where Star Wars should be just for kids with the way it is going. If we use the similar logic. Yet collectors and die hard fans purchase as many products and tickets as kids.


I own both movies on DVD and am older than 16.


To each his own. And when one sets a precedent of criticizing a film it opens them to being criticized in return. But with that said I dont think the reviewer is overly cruel in his or her reviews. And like with Arrow's reviews I take anything I read here with a grain of salt because it is just personal opinion. And college aged twenty somethings almost always despise innocent or youthful things and are often more convinced of their new adult prowess and world view than anyone else.

Read almost any movie reviews by younger, artsy types on the net and you will read pure tripe rapped in attitude. They hate everything that even remotely is successful. Titanic for example. As one who loves indie films and mainstream movies I cannot stand the overly harsh, backwards elite, seperatist snotty attitude that some reviewers have. They are their own parody. Read the Warren Report movies reviews for confirmation of this. Pure tripe.


So Harry isnt as bad as was being reviewed and other stuff isnt as good.

Again, its just someones opinion. And it usually takes many opinions to successfully critique a film. What you read was just one review. And the person who wrote it has a right to express their opinion. Even though we might not agree with it.

More than expected I totally agree with the reviews here. So I guess that says something. I have been saved much money from being wasted on DVD's that lied about features not included or had bad transfers or were defective. I will always check here before buying DVDs because of this honesty that isnt readily posted everywhere else.

[The Shootin Surgeon]

Originally posted by redleaf
I have been saved much money from being wasted on DVD's that lied about features not included or had bad transfers or were defective. I will always check here before buying DVDs because of this honesty that isnt readily posted everywhere else.

Consider my day... made.:)

[Jim H]

Fav Movie: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

You da man! Great avatar too!

:D

[Droog989]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Okay, you win, I admit it, I've always had something against him! This review was my way of getting revenge...Harry Potter...he...he...

...RAPED my sister!:(

;)

I just thought I'd add a bit of levity to these proceedings. :D
(although I doubt my sister will think that's funny)

Seriously though, I've got a lot of respect for you Potter fans now. You're obviously very passionate for the HP films and thinking that I intentionally bashed the poor kid just to fool around you all decided to stand up for the movies. Good show.

Anyway, I'm willing to kiss and make up.........are you?

*especially if there are any cutie female schmoes over 18.:)

Wow, did I write that? How simple......and childish......
My apologies Indiana Sev, I commonly make the mistake of posting late and night, and well, suffice to say, I'm an idiot. "Obviously has something against him", what the hell is that?
Now would be a good time for me to endorse the concept of proof reading:rolleyes:

[Rated R]

This thread was a blast to read I must say, one of the tops since I joineds. Sev, you do kick ass, and that review had me in stitches, and I kinda like Harry Potter...well I found the 1st one to be better than a flaming pile of shit which is what I expected. Still haven't seen #2.

And the one thing that still surprises me is how someone else's opinion can anger someone so much when it comes to a movie, or a piece of music or an athlete(bob & Patrick Roy :D ). Come on, Indiana has every right to write that review in the way he wishes...If you would like him to change it to suit you, well that's ridiculous. Anyway it's late and I work sometime tomorrow...so peace, love and chocolate chip cookies.

[bigred760]

I haven't read the book & I haven't seen the movies. I don't want to read the books & I don't want to see the movies.
I read the reviews here and decided it wasn't for me. So, I appreciated the reviews; I suggest you people don't take them too seriously.