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eraserhead_99
04-15-2003, 10:05 PM
I'd like to start with Casino. No special features. But my major beef is a clockwork orange! only trailers. annoying as hell.

Ren Hoek
04-15-2003, 10:16 PM
A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More in anamorphic widescreen, please!

Some better extras for Ghost World would be cool.

Blade Runner shouldn't be a bare-bones release.

The True Lies DVD is shite!

Scream unrated.

The Frighteners. WTF? The Director's Cut, a 4 1/2 hour making-of documentary, deleted scenes, and a Peter Jackson audio commentary for the laserdisc release, but none of this stuff on the DVD??? Shame on you, Universal! :mad:

Adam J. Hakari
04-15-2003, 10:18 PM
THE STING. Fullscreen, bare-bones release from Universal. This great film turns 30 this year, boys. Get busy on a special edition, or you'll be hearing from me. :D

MickeyKnox
04-15-2003, 10:23 PM
Scarface-Shitty video and audio needs to include the Director's Cut instead of the R version

*re-release this please, i am glad that i have the dvd but you can do better universal my god re-master the quality ofthe movie, don't be stingy about it!

:mad:

KornKidJedi
04-15-2003, 10:41 PM
Reservoir Dogs and The Good The Bad and The Ugly

ilovemovies
04-15-2003, 10:51 PM
I wish ALL movies, even shitty movies were as packed as Pearl Harbor and Pulp Fiction.

Pootie
04-15-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Adam J. Hakari
THE STING. Fullscreen, bare-bones release from Universal. This great film turns 30 this year, boys. Get busy on a special edition, or you'll be hearing from me. :D

i think the sting was orignally fullframe*

Hucksta G
04-16-2003, 01:24 AM
Goodfellas

Devon_UK
04-16-2003, 01:32 AM
I know what you did last summer and the sequel! And perhaps the Urban Legends too!

Mick
04-16-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Pootie
i think the sting was orignally fullframe*

It was 1.85:1, the R2 DVD is in the original aspect ratio, but I'm put off buying it as it's a DVD5 and isn't (I think) anamorphic.

I think there are plans for the Leone/Eastwood films to be re-released, with longer cuts with anamorphic widescreen... hopefully I didn't just imagine this (although I don't think the current print is too bad)

A Clockwork Orange with a Malcolm McDowell commentary would be rather swell.

Why The Birds is fullframe R2, when the R1 disc is anamorphic widescreen is beyond me. I thought they'd have this sorted by now :(

HHH123007
04-16-2003, 02:15 AM
Office Space

It's such a cult hit that they can't put off a SE DVD for much longer...

Mr. Orange
04-16-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by KornKidJedi
Reservoir Dogs and The Good The Bad and The Ugly

Last I heard Reservor Dogs just got a big Special editon release.

Good the Bad and the Ugly definately

Also Dead Alive

and all of the Coens movies

Jon Lyrik
04-16-2003, 11:17 AM
Casino
Batman
Beetlejuice
Batman Returns
Dead Alive/Braindead
Meet the Feebles
The Frighteners
Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie

Weapon X
04-16-2003, 11:55 AM
FACE/OFF

'Nuff said.

travis
04-16-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Hucksta G
Goodfellas

I hate flippers! :mad:

Ren Hoek
04-16-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by travis
I hate flippers! :mad:
Damn right! Reminded my of the awful The Wild Bunch DVD. Fuck you, Warner! :mad:

Michael_myers
04-16-2003, 11:18 PM
The Shawshank Redemption
Fargo
Annie Hall

Jon Lyrik
04-17-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by RenHoek
Fuck you, Warner! :mad:

Indeed. They release shitty DVDs of very popular films, and churn out rumors for years about a special edition (Batman anyone? Goodfellas anyone?). Not to mention they sit on special edition DVD releases that they know will sell big (Looney Tunes, Beetlejuice). Fuck Warner. FUCK WARNER!

VicVega
04-17-2003, 01:54 PM
Fargo
Summer Of Sam
The Green Mile
The Shawshank Redemption
Casino

Raoul Duke
04-17-2003, 02:03 PM
Natural Born Killers

JFK

Ren Hoek
04-17-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Raoul Duke
Natural Born Killers

JFK
Why? They're both very good... I own the Trimark NBK Director's Cut DVD and the extras (audio commentary by Oliver Stone, deleted scenes, making-of documentary) are very good.

The JFK Director's Cut DVD is even better. The video/audio quality is almost demo material. The documentary is excellent, the deleted scenes very interesting, and the commentary track is great (probably one of the best I've ever heard).

Neesh
04-17-2003, 04:41 PM
Yeah, whats wrong with Natural Born Killers and JFK? What more can you ask for in a DVD ....
Ditto with Reservoir Dogs... they even released the 2 disc SE with 5 different covers, pick your favourite character..... Theres alot of DVDs people have mentioned here that look and sound perfectly fine... Fargo, The Green Mile ... I guess if you want more bonus features, thats one thing, but at least you can experience the movie as good as its gonna get.

Theres a TON of DVDs that are in SERIOUS need of a better transfer. I'm not talking about wanting deleted scenes, commentary, or whatever, but I'm talking about shit DVDs that were transfered poorly and have bad video quality, bad audio quality, too much edge enhancement, non-anamorphic transfer, wrong aspect ratio etc.... Examples...
Fellini's City of Women
Meantime (with Gary Oldman and Tim Roth)
Scarface
Lost Highway

thats just off the top of my head...

Jon Lyrik
04-17-2003, 04:47 PM
Don't forget about Batman too, Neesh! It is anamorphic, but it has loads of edge enhancement, poor compression, digital noise up the ass, and dark grey when it should be black. Not to mention that it has the wrong aspect ratio. Pretty damn poor.

Neesh
04-17-2003, 04:54 PM
I dont have Batman, but sounds like its certainly in need of an upgrade! Although, doesnt it feature both pan&scan and 1:85 aspect ratios? What is the correct ratio?

Ren Hoek
04-17-2003, 05:01 PM
The Batman DVD is in 1.85:1 which is the original aspect ratio. But Jon is right about the awful video/sound quality ...ugh!

Jon Lyrik
04-18-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by RenHoek
The Batman DVD is in 1.85:1 which is the original aspect ratio. But Jon is right about the awful video/sound quality ...ugh!

Actually, the aspect ratio on the DVD is different, it is 1.78:1, altered from the original aspect ratio of 1.85:1.

Plus, I only said negative things about the video. The audio is adequate, but it's too low and sounds too hollow for a 5.1 remix.

Bad things-
Not in original aspect ratio
In a snapper case
Somewhat hollow remix
No original sound mix
Bad picture quality
Is a flipper disc (widescreen on one side, pan-and-scan on the other. That would be OK if the film was only 90 minutes long, but the film is over 2 hours long and has two versions stuffed into a single layer each, causing godawful compression)
Next-to-no extras

Good things-
Audio is adequate
Movie is awesome

I consider it the worst disc of my collection.

MacReady
04-18-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by eraserhead_99
I'd like to start with Casino. No special features. But my major beef is a clockwork orange! only trailers. annoying as hell.

I agree with A Clockwork Orange (haven't seen Casino though). I'd also like Paramount to treat the Friday The 13th series with a little more respect. I'd also like a superior version of early Peter Jackson such as Dead Alive and Meet The Feebles (saw it on tv once and the picture and sound quality was better than the DVD I owned! WTF?!:mad:). I'd also like people to treat David Cronenberg movies better. On the other hand I wish Anchor Bay would stop making so many different DVDs of the Evil Dead trilogy and Halloween.

movies35
04-18-2003, 10:41 PM
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

But they do gotta release Gone With The Wind SE

Neesh
04-19-2003, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Actually, the aspect ratio on the DVD is different, it is 1.78:1, altered from the original aspect ratio of 1.85:1.


How exactly are you sure that this is the ratio on the DVD? I'm assuming you have a 16:9 monitor, and it completely fills the screen? Also, is the 1.78 ratio showing you less, or more of the film? Could be the latter....

Since its such a horrible DVD, why dont you sell me yours, real cheap ? :)

rushmore beauty
04-19-2003, 01:47 AM
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Batman
Beetlejuice
Sleepy Hollow
A Clockwork Orange

Neesh
04-19-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by rushmore beauty
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon


Thats one of the best produced DVDs out there ... some people are really hard to please!

rilocay
04-19-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by MickeyKnox
Scarface-Shitty video and audio needs to include the Director's Cut instead of the R version

:mad:


i was originally going to say that on the making featuret in the scarface dvd the director said he just put all the footage back in and made the movie what it originally was because the rating wouldnt change.

BUT then i realised your most likely in america and your rating system is diffeent to the one in Australia. Check out the Region 4 dvd of scarface because it has surround sound with pretty good quality visuals plus cut scenes, muk ups, ,aking of doco and cast and crew bio's plus the scarface movie posters and trailers.

I have no idea what the usa version is like compared to the aussie one but region 4 (the aussie one) is a steal for around $20 AUD.


hope thats good for ya...


dvd with more extras n sh!te i got a good one for ya :swordfish

Jon Lyrik
04-19-2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Neesh
How exactly are you sure that this is the ratio on the DVD? I'm assuming you have a 16:9 monitor, and it completely fills the screen? Also, is the 1.78 ratio showing you less, or more of the film? Could be the latter....

Since its such a horrible DVD, why dont you sell me yours, real cheap ? :)

I know about this for two reasons:

a) I found out at widescreenreview.com that the DVD aspect ratio is 1.78:1.

b) I noticed that the pan-and-scan version has a little more on the top and bottom, while the widescreen version has a little more on the left and right, only that Batman was not shot in Super 35. The only way to explain this is that it is NOT in it's original aspect ratio, and that they probably (no, definitely) took a 1.85:1 print and cropped it at the top and bottom and maybe a little bit on the sides. That's as bad as pan-and-scan.

c) Warner seems to do this with seemingly ALL of their 1.85:1 movies on DVD. Other DVDs like this that I have seen include Beetlejuice, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Lord of the Rings (1978).

Ghostface 2000
04-19-2003, 01:10 PM
I think Signs should have gotten a better dvd maybe a 2 disc with a making of feature and more behind the scenes stuff.

Bullet Tooth Tony
04-19-2003, 04:18 PM
I totally agree with Casino. In the UK Fargo has been re-released as a 2 Disc set so I can't say that one.

But I watched The Ring the other night...what a shitty disc that was (but the film kicks ass)

Mick
04-19-2003, 04:28 PM
Taxi Driver deserves better treatment. This is one of the greatest films of all time, and the DVD doesn't reflect this at all. There are some extras, but they're not great.

How about a commentary track? It's not as if Scorsese or De Niro are busy doing anything else.

It'd be great if Criterion could get the rights to this one......

Neesh
04-19-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
I know about this for two reasons:

a) I found out at widescreenreview.com that the DVD aspect ratio is 1.78:1.

b) I noticed that the pan-and-scan version has a little more on the top and bottom, while the widescreen version has a little more on the left and right, only that Batman was not shot in Super 35. The only way to explain this is that it is NOT in it's original aspect ratio, and that they probably (no, definitely) took a 1.85:1 print and cropped it at the top and bottom and maybe a little bit on the sides. That's as bad as pan-and-scan.


I just want to make sure I understand you correctly... youre saying that a movie in 1.78 (if its supposed to be 1.85) is as bad as 1.33 pan & scan ? Sorry man, I disagree. I cant even see the logic in that one. First of all, 1.78 is almost IDENTICAL to 1.85 .... 99.999% of the population couldnt tell the difference. And why would you think they also cropped it on the sides? Cant figure that out. Logic says, that if they opened the matte up for the 1.33 P&S version, to reveal more on the top and bottom, then they probably, no not definitely, but probably opened it up a bit more on the top and bottom for the 1.78 anamorphic transfer. The whole point of the matter is, even if they did crop the top and bottom for the 1.78 transfer, its hardly noticeable. Anyone with a widescreen monitor (like me and thousands of others) definitely appreciate the 1.78 anamorphic transfer.

Another interesting nugget of info. Have you listened to the Burton- Ruebens commentary on Pee-Wees Big Adventure? They talked about a couple of scenes, where on the full screen version, you see more information on the bottom of the picture that wasnt originally meant to be there... but then they both--the director, and the main star/writer-- say they prefer seeing it that way!

Michael_myers
04-19-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by movies35
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

But they do gotta release Gone With The Wind SE

Jebus YES! That has got to be one of the worst DVD's of a famous film.'

Neesh
04-19-2003, 09:34 PM
I just watched A.I. and it had some of the worst compression artifacts I've ever seen.... if only every DVD could be a Superbit.
Great movie though!

Justin Harris
04-19-2003, 11:56 PM
American History X - I'd love to hear the commentary with Edward Norton and the Director Tony Kaye. Arguments are funny.
BASEketball - Commentary with Matt Stone and Trey Parker
Batman
Clerks
Face/Off
FIGHT CLUB - The DVD is great, but I want more!
Happy Gilmore
Heat
Mortal Kombat
Ocean's Eleven
Primal Fear
Resident Evil - Where's the Director's Cut?
Rounders
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut
True Lies

Mick
04-20-2003, 06:54 AM
The Fox & The Hound. My favourite Disney film, and it has been cropped to 1.33:1... I'm not bothered about extras, and obviously they are going to aim it at kids, but I want it in it's original aspect ratio, dagnabbit.

movies35
04-20-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Mick
The Fox & The Hound. My favourite Disney film, and it has been cropped to 1.33:1... I'm not bothered about extras, and obviously they are going to aim it at kids, but I want it in it's original aspect ratio, dagnabbit.

Yeah, the dvd sucks. But the movie is awesome!

badberry
04-20-2003, 11:25 PM
Goodfellas for sure is in major need of an overhaul - the current disc is a disgrace.

Blade Runner as well.

Neesh
04-21-2003, 04:50 PM
The Blade Runner SE is being worked on right now.... here's a site with all the information you'll ever want to know about it.

http://www.brmovie.com/BR_Special_Edition.htm

Dietrich
04-21-2003, 06:38 PM
Bound from the Wachovski Brothers. I'm really hoping for a cool DVD with loads of extra's.

Jon Lyrik
04-23-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Mick
The Fox & The Hound. My favourite Disney film, and it has been cropped to 1.33:1... I'm not bothered about extras, and obviously they are going to aim it at kids, but I want it in it's original aspect ratio, dagnabbit.

Gah! Sounds like an awful DVD. I do like the movie, though.

FT13TH Addict
04-29-2003, 07:47 AM
Pumpkinhead
A Director's cut of Event Horizon

mofopott
04-29-2003, 10:32 AM
Whats the deal with this superbit thing????????
i'm from Australia and have never seen any superbit discs in my dvd stores! they sound really good! anyone be able to shed some more light on to where i can obtain them?, preferably in r4 format as i dont have a multi region player.

movies35
04-29-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by mofopott
Whats the deal with this superbit thing????????
i'm from Australia and have never seen any superbit discs in my dvd stores! they sound really good! anyone be able to shed some more light on to where i can obtain them?, preferably in r4 format as i dont have a multi region player.
All superbit is is better picture and sound. But you really can't notice it.

Neesh
04-30-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by movies35
All superbit is is better picture and sound. But you really can't notice it.

... unless you've got a widescreen monitor and a high quality dvd player and sound system.

I dont know about region 4 releases.... you might have a look at superbitdvd.com for more info.

DaN
05-01-2003, 04:43 PM
I realize that Kubrick did not want anything extra to go with his movies. That's why there generally aren't any extras other than trailers or that little documentary on The Shining. The Dr. Strangelove DVD is really great and has a decent amount of stuff. What would be nice would be for someone to actually RESTORE the goddamn pictures. That would be the coolest.

Raymond Babbit
05-07-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by mofopott
Whats the deal with this superbit thing????????
i'm from Australia and have never seen any superbit discs in my dvd stores! they sound really good! anyone be able to shed some more light on to where i can obtain them?, preferably in r4 format as i dont have a multi region player.

Superbit gives better sound and picture, but it's not that noticeable if you've got a regular tv. Also, they have pretty much no extras, which sucks.

Having said that, I've decided to wait to buy Panic Room until they come out with a better, non superbit, version. 2 Other movies I might wait for SEs of are Goodfellas and Fargo.

JCPhoenix
05-07-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by VicVega

The Shawshank Redemption


Luckily for all of us, The Shawshank Redemption IS getting a 2 disc SE in 2004 - 10th Anniversary edition. Frank Darabont has said there will be several documentaries, and that he has relented and has done (or will do) a director's commentary for the movie. :D

Oh, and don't forget about the 10th anniversary rerelease in theatres too! If it does happen, go support the movie :D i know i will...i'd love to see it on the big screen and get all my friends who haven't seen it yet to watch it in theatres...

Could Be Worse
05-07-2003, 10:25 PM
Airplane
Batman Returns
Beetlejuice
Jaws (Spielberg commentary...come on)
L.A. Confidential (once again, needs commentary badly)
A Nightmare on Elm Street
NOES: Dream Warriors
Wes Craven's New Nightmare

Jon Lyrik
05-08-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by DaN
RESTORE the goddamn pictures. That would be the coolest.

They already did on the newer DVDs.

bigred760
05-14-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Weapon X
FACE/OFF


Hells yeah. I'd also go along with Heat and Shawshank Redemption.

Although I hear that Shawshank might be getting a 10 year Special Edition release next year.

Could Be Worse
05-14-2003, 10:18 PM
I know it can't get better than it is (nearly the entire cast is dead) but I wish there were more special features on the Rear Window DVD (the ones on it are good though, but I need more lol)