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screamer581
05-21-2003, 02:36 PM
Very odd game again last night...just like game 1 on almost every regard. (Pistons Vs. Nets) D-town needs a miracle right now, but it's not looking too good. Hey, even if they do get knocked out in this round, they had a good run, and I really think next year could be the year of The Pistons!:D

SubMethod
05-21-2003, 09:13 PM
I'm not sure if the MAVS will be able to pull off another win tonight, the SPURS are probably pretty pissed about game 1 and want revenge, but once we get back to Dallas we'll be good from there.

Gametime
05-21-2003, 10:23 PM
For the Lakers to regain their title Shaq needs to loose 20 pounds. He needs to have the same dedication Kobe has in the offseason. If he dosent have dedication than this is hard for me to say but trade him. Its Kobes turn to lead this team. Theres alot of teams in the league that would like to have shaq. We can bring in Kevin Garnett. Shaq For K.G. thats what im thinking you got 2 capable mvps in kobe and K.G. there both young and the lakers would have money to bring in a quality point guard like say Gary Payton (ok maybe im dreaming) the lakers dynasty would be around for a while but no matter what if shaq gets in shape the titles ours.

Grebdron
05-22-2003, 11:43 AM
The refs really wanted SA to win last night. 45 free throws to 22? Looks like they want a 6 or 7 game series.

Doc Holliday
05-22-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Gametime
For the Lakers to regain their title Shaq needs to loose 20 pounds. He needs to have the same dedication Kobe has in the offseason. If he dosent have dedication than this is hard for me to say but trade him. Its Kobes turn to lead this team. Theres alot of teams in the league that would like to have shaq. We can bring in Kevin Garnett. Shaq For K.G. thats what im thinking you got 2 capable mvps in kobe and K.G. there both young and the lakers would have money to bring in a quality point guard like say Gary Payton (ok maybe im dreaming) the lakers dynasty would be around for a while but no matter what if shaq gets in shape the titles ours.

Right now the Lakers are old news. The playoff now involve the Spurs/Mavs and Nets/Pistons. Sorry you can't let go with the fact the Lakers were unable to win their 4th straight. By the way, are you still praying for the Spurs to get killed? :D

Shaq for KG...by they way that's insane. Then you wouldn't have a center. The Spurs, Mav's and King's then would run right through the D. You have to keep him to clog up the middle. Grebdron, give this guy some guidance, and don't tell me you agree with getting rid of Shaqw in favor of KG.

Grebdron
05-22-2003, 03:12 PM
No fucking way. Shaq might be 30 pounds overweight, but that doesn't warrant trading the most dominant center around. And Doc's right. Without Shaq in the West, we'd be fucking toast. We need a servicable power forward, and a good defending and distributing point guard. Shaq has already said he'll come into camp next season in better shape.

I would NEVER dump Shaq. If it came down to a choice, I'd lose Kobe first. Though I wouldn't want to lose either. But you can always find a 2 guard who can creat their own shot.

Of course, none of them are as good as Kobe.

SanduskyPA
05-22-2003, 08:31 PM
Hey, Cleveland gets LeBron!
Great.......



Back to the playoffs...

jackson13
05-22-2003, 09:18 PM
Is anybody else sick of Lebron James? I am, majorly sick. The kid is fucking younger than I am, he's gonna get into the NBA and all the awesome guys like Shaq and Kobe are gonna beat the living shit out of him. I cant wait to see him get humiliated game after game.

screamer581
05-23-2003, 12:32 AM
Well the Pistons had a good run......

Strider
05-23-2003, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by screamer581
Well the Pistons had a good run......

Indeed they did, but it appears their "good run" will come to a bitter end on Saturday... well, at least I think so.

Strider

Doc Holliday
05-23-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by screamer581
Well the Pistons had a good run......

Their season may end soon....

But they did get the 2nd pick in the draft, and have cap room to sign a big name. They WILL be back next year. Not that I am a fan of theirs, but hell they will be stronger next year.

Tom Samborski
05-23-2003, 05:23 PM
New Jersey is just dominating in the East, but their chances of winning the title are very low. Who knows, they may surprise us by winning the NBA championship, it's very unlikely but it COULD happen.

Gametime
05-23-2003, 11:42 PM
yall dont know what your talking about the Lakers will never be old news cause we will get our title back next year guranteed

Tom Samborski
05-24-2003, 12:02 AM
Dallas lost the game, but it wasn't just that they lost. Dirk Nowitzski injured his knee, and he may be out for the rest of the playoffs. Looks like it's going to be San Antonio v.s New Jersey in the finals.

Strider
05-24-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Tom Samborski
Dallas lost the game, but it wasn't just that they lost. Dirk Nowitzski injured his knee, and he may be out for the rest of the playoffs. Looks like it's going to be San Antonio v.s New Jersey in the finals.

Agreed. Nowitzski injured is a pure killer for the Mavericks.

Strider

Tom Samborski
05-24-2003, 11:31 PM
New Jersey just beat Detroit 102-82, and they are off to the Finals. It's remarkable how the Nets have turned around, they were once a mediocre at best team that couldn't compete at all in the playoffs, now they are a very serious playoff contender.

RicochetShaw
05-25-2003, 12:01 AM
Yup, NJ must be a nice place to live right now, you got your Devils and your Nets in the finals, and the Yanks are always a lock.

Strider
05-25-2003, 04:31 AM
Hmm... yes, the Nets are a great team. They're very powerful on both sides, whether it's defense or offense. Still, even though they have a good chance, I don't think they're going to win the NBA Finals. I just don't see an East team winning the big one for quite some time.... but we'll see what happens soon enough.

Strider

RicochetShaw
05-27-2003, 03:26 AM
MAVS WILL COME BACK, THEN SWEEP NJ!!!





i can dream

Tom Samborski
05-27-2003, 09:23 AM
Although Dallas may appear to be done, keep in mind that ANYTHING can happen in the NBA. Heck, they might come back and force a game 7.

SubMethod
05-27-2003, 11:07 PM
Well....it looks like the Spurs are going to be champions this year. At least it's a Texas team, that's at least one thing to be happy about.

SubMethod
05-28-2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by SubMethod
Well....it looks like the Spurs are going to be champions this year. At least it's a Texas team, that's at least one thing to be happy about.

I take that back...:D:D:D

Strider
05-30-2003, 02:36 AM
Well, the Spurs finally got rid of the Mavs tonight. How unfortunate that Nowitski injured himself, that was the deathstrike for the Mavs. Anyway, the NBA Finals are quickly approaching...

2003 NBA Finals:

San Antonio Spurs vs. New Jersey Nets

As for my prediction, I predict the Spurs will take the championship, but isn't going to be easy. I say they'll win in 7 games, it could be 6, but I'm sticking with 7. The Nets will put up a great fight, but they're going to lose. I just don't see an Eastern team winning the NBA Finals rightn now, it's going to be awhile. Still, I may be wrong.

Strider

RicochetShaw
05-30-2003, 03:05 AM
.............:)



like...........wow

Indiana Sev
05-30-2003, 07:12 PM
Spurs in 6

Doc Holliday
05-30-2003, 09:14 PM
Prediction

Spurs in 7.

I think New Jersey is really going to give them a hard time they have time to watch and study, and I think it pays off. Hell, I hope they win the thing.

RicochetShaw
05-31-2003, 12:44 PM
i used to kind of like the Spurs, and would have been happy if either team went to the championship (them or Mavs), but after being so caught up in the Mavs, I'm gonna root for NJ. I also actually think they have a legit change. NJ in 6. call me crazy, but i think it can happen.I was even gonna say 5, but I don't wanna sound too crazy;)

Strider
05-31-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by RicochetShaw
i used to kind of like the Spurs, and would have been happy if either team went to the championship (them or Mavs), but after being so caught up in the Mavs, I'm gonna root for NJ. I also actually think they have a legit change. NJ in 6. call me crazy, but i think it can happen.I was even gonna say 5, but I don't wanna sound too crazy;)

Hey Shaw, guess what?

YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!

:D :D :D

Strider

Indiana Sev
06-03-2003, 04:38 AM
Uh, are they gonna play this year?:rolleyes:

Strider
06-03-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Uh, are they gonna play this year?:rolleyes:

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, Sev. We should already have a champion team! Well, the waiting's over tomorrow... finally.

Strider

Puck Bond
06-03-2003, 03:47 PM
Is this still going on? This is ridiculous...I mean will anybody care outside of Texas and New Jersey when they finally get this champoinship series underway? Why the NBA isn't more flexible in starting its finals is beyond me and more proof that Stern is a tossa! This is why I don't watch(the fact that the Warriors have sucked more than the Clippers for a decade happens to be a reason to)...anywaydespite the fact that New jersey is fun to watch and has a very good chance in this series...I really don't care. Give me baseball and Cup finals!

Grebdron
06-03-2003, 07:16 PM
I've completely lost interest. If i happen to be in front of a TV, I might watch. But that's it.

It's all about the Benjamins. ABC wanted the schedule this way, and got it.

Good luck with a 1.5 share, fuckers.

Strider
06-03-2003, 07:35 PM
Well, I have this feeling a lot of people don't really care about this year's NBA Finals. ABC better not expect much, because I think this will draw in very low ratings.

Now, if the Lakers were in, it'd be a much different story. But they're not. Oh well, screw ABC.... :D

Strider

RicochetShaw
06-04-2003, 11:28 PM
ok, ok. I just watched game 1. I know that was a poor performance by the Nets (especially in the second half), but I stand by my prediction, nets in 6. This will be my last post here for a while, because I'm moving tomorrow (to Texas). So if any of you think i'm just not posting here anymore because of embarassment of bad predictions, your wrong!:D :p

Strider
06-05-2003, 02:13 AM
I can't believe what happened towards the end. The Nets were kicking ass, and were giving the Spurs one damn good fight, but then they just fell apart. Quite surprising, if you ask me. Still, even though I think the Spurs are going to take it in 7, the Nets WILL give them a damn hard time.

It's gonna be a fight, baby!!! :D

Strider

James Logan
06-06-2003, 05:50 AM
I still think the Nets can win two or three games in this series. Sure they got whooped in Game One, but c'mon...they shot 37 percent, Kidd was a little off (relative statement...he did have 10 points, 10 assists and 8 rebounds after all ;) ), and Tim Duncan was just too much.

I think San Antonio will win the next one, then NJ will win or two, and the series will be on track.

Tom Samborski
06-07-2003, 12:42 AM
New Jersey just won Game 2 87-85, it's their first NBA Finals victory.

Strider
06-07-2003, 06:26 AM
What a game! The Nets won by the skin of their teeth. Hell, Stephen Jackson could've made the shot, but it didn't happen. Anyway, I'd say this was a big win for the Nets. They will get to play the next three games in New Jersey, no matter what the outcome of each game is.

Strider

Indiana Sev
06-07-2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Strider
They will get to play the next three games in New Jersey, no matter what the outcome of each game is.

Strider

That's a lousy idea! Why don't they just keep it the same way it was for the first three rounds? (2-2-1-1-1) The NHL did that for a bit in the playoffs, the 2-3-2 home game playoff series. They abandoned the idea soon after. It isn't fair for the team that worked their asses off all year to get home court advantage. They have to play 3 BIG games on the road and in the case that they lost their last home game (as is the case with the Spurs) they go in without any momentum whatsoever.

Bad idea....

James Logan
06-07-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Strider
Anyway, I'd say this was a big win for the Nets.


Yeah, it'll boost their confidence. But still...not such a fantastic performance from them. First of all, they only won by two points, and Jackson's shot, as you said, could've gone in. Second, Jason Kidd basically did everything himself in this game -- he was best scorer and rebounder for New Jersey, and the Nets only had three players scoring in double digits. Third, Dream Tim Dunkin' Duncan had trouble with his free-throw shooting when it counted, which happens from time to time but can't be relied on every game. And finally, Mutombo sure did deliver a huge defensive performance -- but I think next time round the Spurs will be ready for him.

It's 1 - 1, the Nets will win only 1 more game before the series is over. Mark my words. :)

Strider
06-07-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by James Logan
Third, Dream Tim Dunkin' Duncan had trouble with his free-throw shooting when it counted, which happens from time to time but can't be relied on every game.

You're right. Not only that, I thought all those turnovers from the Spurs were a killer as well.

Originally posted by James Logan
And finally, Mutombo sure did deliver a huge defensive performance -- but I think next time round the Spurs will be ready for him.[/B]

Well, I would hope the Spurs will be ready for him. Mutombo is really making those minutes he plays count... a lot.

Strider

Strider
06-09-2003, 04:37 PM
I don't know about you, but I thought the Nets could've won game three last night. After Tony Parker missed those free throws, the Nets had a chance to do something. But that sure didn't happen.

Anyway, the Nets didn't play as aggressive as I thought, especially for being on their home court. Hell, look at Jason Kidd, his performance was just disappointing. Kidd was out-performed and out-played by Parker.

The Nets really can not begin to imagine that they could win this series with the way they're playing. They really need to up the ante, and they need to play the Spurs harder.

As for Game 4, this is definitely going to be a must-win for the Nets. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be 3-1 in Game 5, and face elimination by the hands of the Spurs.

Strider

Grebdron
06-09-2003, 04:42 PM
I have completely lost interest in this series. Boring basketball by two boring teams.

Whatever.

Tony Montana 83
06-10-2003, 09:15 PM
This series is boring because they are defensive teams unlike the lakers.....The spurs will win it and will find out that jason kidd is not worth the 100 million...so theyll sign jermaine oneal

PG Parker
SG Jackson/Manu
SF Bowen
PF J. O'Neal
C Duncan

= 5 PEAT

The Hobb Goblin
06-11-2003, 01:13 PM
I don't think the nets will let Jason Kidd go but i don't think it would be worth it for the spurs to get him J O'neal would be a lot better.

MarkItZero
06-11-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by The Hobb Goblin
I don't think the nets will let Jason Kidd go but i don't think it would be worth it for the spurs to get him J O'neal would be a lot better.

Agreed.

Kidd is good, but he is getting up in age. Plus he seems like a real asshole. TP is real young and will only get better. Why get rid of a real good young player to pick up one who will soon be on the decline.

Strider
06-11-2003, 06:22 PM
In other news... Jeff Van Gundy was introduced as the new head coach of the Houston Rockets today. I don't know about you guys, but I think this is good news. I'm glad Gundy's coming back, always was, and still is one of my favorite coaches. I think he'll do a good job with the Rockets. I'd say Yao Ming and the rest of the team are in good hands....

Strider

Tony Montana 83
06-11-2003, 08:49 PM
This games over...4 team fouls on NJ already wiht 8 min to go

3-1 spurs

Tony Montana 83
06-11-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Strider
In other news... Jeff Van Gundy was introduced as the new head coach of the Houston Rockets today. I don't know about you guys, but I think this is good news. I'm glad Gundy's coming back, always was, and still is one of my favorite coaches. I think he'll do a good job with the Rockets. I'd say Yao Ming and the rest of the team are in good hands....

Strider

Did New York get the 2nd round pick from HOU?

Tony Montana 83
06-11-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by The Hobb Goblin
I don't think the nets will let Jason Kidd go but i don't think it would be worth it for the spurs to get him J O'neal would be a lot better.

Cmon jermaine oneals up there as one of the elite pf's in the nba and hes young...with bowen oneal duncan in frontcourt...no one will torch them scoring wise...then a nice young backcourt and this teams set for a good 7 to 8 years.

Indiana Sev
06-12-2003, 12:21 AM
Nets tie it up. The series will go to at least game 6. I don't care who wins...I just want it to end already.



:(

Strider
06-12-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Tony Montana 83
Did New York get the 2nd round pick from HOU?

Yeah. That's what the Knicks are getting in return for Gundy.

Strider

Strider
06-12-2003, 03:55 AM
What's the matter, guys? I feel like I'm the only one who's interested in this series. Hell, I'm more than interested, I'm having a good time watching the Spurs and Nets go at it! :D

Anyway, I'm still sticking with my original prediction, Spurs in 7. I knew the Nets would give them a hard time, but I still think they're gonna come up short, very short.

Strider

Grebdron
06-12-2003, 11:24 AM
Two bad teams playing bad basketball.

Whoo-hoo!:rolleyes:

Tony Montana 83
06-12-2003, 11:02 PM
Damn that Tim Duncan put back shot in the final seconds just costed my friend $500.00

Spread was Spurs + 2...That fn basket screwed him making it a 1 Point game.

James Logan
06-13-2003, 02:49 PM
I gotta say...this is the worst Finals basketball I've seen in a while. Tim Duncan is excellent but not decisive, David Robinson is too old, Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin are too irregular, Tony Parker screws up his great run with a 3-point performance, Malik Rose shoots only bricks, both teams are too slow, there're more turnovers than nice plays...

Not great ball. Definitely not great ball. :(

Strider
06-14-2003, 05:26 AM
Well, the Nets are going back to San Antonio with a series score that is not in their favor at all... 3-2. The Nets could pull something out of their asses, but I'm not sure. This upcoming Sunday night could very well be the Spurs' night.

Strider

James Logan
06-14-2003, 06:26 AM
Stevie Kerr rocks!

Tom Samborski
06-14-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Strider
Well, the Nets are going back to San Antonio with a series score that is not in their favor at all... 3-2. The Nets could pull something out of their asses, but I'm not sure. This upcoming Sunday night could very well be the Spurs' night.

Agreed, New Jersey has to come up with a plan for game 6 in order to stay alive.

James Logan
06-14-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Tom Samborski
Agreed, New Jersey has to come up with a plan for game 6 in order to stay alive.

They've gotta keep Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin in shape and on the floor, and they've gotta swith on defense so Kerry Kittles or Richard Jefferson ends up helping to guard Tony Parker or Speedy Claxton or Steve Kerr. That's how I'd do it.

Tony Montana 83
06-14-2003, 02:55 PM
Spurs 2 FAKE Titles

1999...Short year, No Jordan, Ewing Hurt 4 NYK in Finals.

2003...Kobe messed up shoulder, Dirk Nowtitzki out for playoffs, Chris Webber doesn't get hurt...Kings make finals...Kenyon Martin illness costs Nets game...Jason Kidd sore ankle and cannot drive because of it...2 Fake garbage titles.

Strider
06-15-2003, 05:41 AM
Well, I'd say both Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin definitely need to up their game tomorrow night. And Martin really needs to stay the hell away from any kind of foul trouble.

Strider

Indiana Sev
06-15-2003, 07:19 AM
The NBA playoffs will end tonight.

Spurs 96

Nets 88

:D

James Logan
06-15-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Tony Montana 83
Spurs 2 FAKE Titles

1999...Short year, No Jordan, Ewing Hurt 4 NYK in Finals.

2003...Kobe messed up shoulder, Dirk Nowtitzki out for playoffs, Chris Webber doesn't get hurt...Kings make finals...Kenyon Martin illness costs Nets game...Jason Kidd sore ankle and cannot drive because of it...2 Fake garbage titles.

I wouldn't call 'em "fake" titles.

1999: Jordan wasn't playing in 94 or 95 either, doesn't make the Houston back-to-back fake. As for Ewing hurting, that didn't change much -- Patrick Ewing's been hurting since 1996.

2003: Kobe's shoulder wasn't that bad at all. If the man can score 30 points a game all along the playoffs, I wouldn't call him injured. Nowitzki, Webber, that happens all the time -- tough luck. That's how sports work. And the whole illness thing...well, Martin was ill this time, they lost the game. During the playoffs, Tony Parker had a very lame game because of an illness, the Spurs won nevertheless. You just gotta learn to handle those.

The Spurs deserve their title(s) as much as anyone else in the world. If you can't take the tough random side of the game and call it unfairness and put the blame on it, then you don't get sports at all.

Tony Montana 83
06-15-2003, 11:11 AM
Spurs will win it tonight, I argree...the nets averaged about 80 points a night at home in the 3 games so I think theyll only score about 84 while the spurs drop 98 and cruise to their 2nd title in 4 years

Tom Samborski
06-15-2003, 11:17 PM
It's over, the Spurs are gonna win it.

Strider
06-16-2003, 12:44 AM
... And the San Antonio Spurs are the 2003 NBA Champions! Not a surprise at all. Even if the series went to a seventh game, they would still win it.

What can be said? The Nets could have won this game, but they didn't. Towards the end, the Nets looked like shit. They got scared, and the Spurs conquered them because of their fear of losing. And this goes without mentioning that the Spurs really kicked some ass in the 4th quarter. They really kick-started their game in that quarter, for sure.

Anyway, despite my liking for the team, I can't say I'm very excited for the Spurs win tonight. However, it's kind of neat that David Robinson goes out a winner, though.

I must admit something, I was rooting for the Nets all the way throughout this entire series. It was like watching the 1999 NBA Finals all over again. The Spurs played and won that series, but I was going for the Eastern team, which were the Knicks. Weird, eh?

Overall, this series was mediocre at best. It did have some really entertaining and exciting moments. Still, this was probably one of the weakest NBA Finals I've seen in awhile.

Now that the 2002-2003 NBA Season is finally over, can I just say something about next season? I hope Jeff Van Gundy does something with the Rockets, I hope the season has many surprises, I hope Jason Kidd makes the right decision, and....

I PRAY THE LAKERS COME BACK WITH A VENGEANCE. I PRAY THE LAKERS COME BACK WITH NOTHING BUT FURY AND RAGE. AND I PRAY THE LAKERS WILL DESTROY, CRUSH, AND ANNIHILATE ANY TEAM WHO DARES TO STAND IN THEIR WAY!!!!

:D :D :D :D

Strider

Indiana Sev
06-16-2003, 12:57 AM
Go Celti.....Oops, too late!!!;)


Congrats to the boring Spurs!!:D

I predict next year, the Raptors will NOT win the championship!:D

Strider
06-16-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Indiana Sev
I predict next year, the Raptors will NOT win the championship!:D

Great prediction, Sev. I think you'll be right, no need to worry... :D

Strider

MISFITS_Fiend
06-16-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Tony Montana 83
Spurs 2 FAKE Titles

1999...Short year, No Jordan, Ewing Hurt 4 NYK in Finals.

2003...Kobe messed up shoulder, Dirk Nowtitzki out for playoffs, Chris Webber doesn't get hurt...Kings make finals...Kenyon Martin illness costs Nets game...Jason Kidd sore ankle and cannot drive because of it...2 Fake garbage titles.

I was wondering when someone would pull that stupid argument out of the garbage can. The Spurs had a hard-fought win last night, and I for one am totally psyched that they took the series. Hell, people get injured all the time in the NBA; if the Lakers had won the Finals, no one would whine about "oh, this guy had a hangnail, or this other guy had a tummy-ache"...

Just give it a rest. The Spurs are the champs; deal with it.

Morgana
06-16-2003, 02:04 PM
I haven't really been participating in this thread since I was focusing on the hockey playoffs, but I did catch last night's game, and I'm totally stoked the Spurs are the NBA champs this year. Sweeeet!!

MarkItZero
06-16-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Tony Montana 83
Damn that Tim Duncan put back shot in the final seconds just costed my friend $500.00

Spread was Spurs + 2...That fn basket screwed him making it a 1 Point game.

A man who bets $500 on a basketball spread is a foolish man indeed. The point spreads in basketball can fluctuate far too easily to make it worth putting any kind of serious dough on the line. A 12 point game can be trimmed to 4 in the final minutes as the parade to the free throw line starts, likewise, a 2 point game can balloon to 10 in less than 20 seconds of game time.

Save your money. Bet on football spreads instead. They are much more reliable.

RicochetShaw
06-19-2003, 06:04 AM
i think i have a new method for predictions....go with the exact opposite of what i really think, i'd have a very high accuracy rate

James Logan
06-20-2003, 12:49 PM
Spurs deserved this.

Tim Duncan is the most tremendous all-around player in the league right now.

David Robinson...we'll miss you, Admiral. Great final game.