Saddam Hussein And I Have Similar Taste

[SLAW]

We know he loves THE GODFATHER, but I heard on the radio the other day that VANILLA SKY and OCEAN'S ELVEN (among others I like) were found in his presidential palace (or whatever it's called). What does this mean? It freaked me out. I suppose movie addicts come in all forms (something I notice here), so I'm beginning to calm down a little.

[movies35]

Wow! I can't believe he likes "dirty american movie" like vanilla sky!

[QUENTIN]

The Godfather and Vanilla Sky? He doesn't seem like such a bad guy now...;)

[BubbaStrangelove]

He had all sorts of porn too. Apparantly he was a real affadeci... affadici.... affi...


he really liked porn.

Did you all hear about the plastic pink bathroom slippers, and the Disco tapes from 1985?

I'm dead serious here.

[Grebdron]

I'll bet the citizens of Iraq weren't allowed to watch them.

Figures he liked Lynch.;)

[Cyclonus]

I wonder if he saw South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut? :eek:


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[movies35]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
I wonder if he saw South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut? :eek:


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I wonder....

[APzombie]

I don't give a shit what films he likes, as long as he doesn't mention Bambi.

[Grim H.]

Kind of reminds me how one of Hitler's favorite films was Snow White and the Seven Dwarves...now what drives a man to go so crazy?

[flowrchild]

Not in women, I hope ;)

[The Delfonics]

That is so cool. Saddam you can stay at my house man!!! (if your still alive) Vanilla Sky and Oceans 11 are two of all time favs.

[TheGodSon]

Vanilla Sky is awesome. I'm suprised he likes that one.

[Scarface98.9]

It's also claimed that he quotes Godfather all the time and uses viagra.

Damn, the punchline's just too easy

[MickeyKnox]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
The Godfather and Vanilla Sky? He doesn't seem like such a bad guy now...;)
Wow I am surprised that a man this evil could have great taste, and QUENTIN I will have to agree with you on this because of his movie taste:p

[XCoRyX]

hopefully he cant watch them movies anymore...

[Dead Halloween]

I wonder if he saw Hot Shots 1&2 :D

[Cunning Visions]

Originally posted by Dead Halloween: I wonder if he saw Hot Shots 1&2
...Or Three Kings

[Sigur509]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
hopefully he cant watch them movies anymore...


:D

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by APzombie
I don't give a shit what films he likes, as long as he doesn't mention Bambi.

He was the bastard who shot Bambis mother!

[Justin Harris]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
He was the bastard who shot Bambis mother!

Haha! :D

Actually no. It couldn't of been him.

Because I'm the one that killed that bitch.

[XCoRyX]

i hope the goverment isnt having similiar conversations and taking hussein so lightly.

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by Justin Harris
Haha! :D

Actually no. It couldn't of been him.

Because I'm the one that killed that bitch.

But you wouldnt have done it if you didnt stop by Saddams gun and ammo store to get some weapons to kill her.

[Jim H]

Ya know who Hitler's favorite film star is? Charlie Chaplin. He shaved his moustache to be like the tramps'. He saw a private screening of the movie that is a spoof of Nazidom in general, and himself in particular (what's it called? Can't remember), but his response to it is unrecorded.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by blindingedge
this kinda seems shockin!!!i mean,isnt his religion sposed to be against all adult stuff???no offense!!!moreover,the ladies there are sposd to cover their face too!!n screenin of many english movies-->banned!!!

Saddam was in fact anti-religious, as was the whole country.

[Mad Maggot]

Originally posted by movies35
Wow! I can't believe he likes "dirty american movie" like vanilla sky!

I'm more thrilled he likes (liked) Ocean's 11! :eek:

[APzombie]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
i hope the goverment isnt having similiar conversations and taking hussein so lightly.

i know dude, i agree. This ass hole is the biggest mass murderer alive (or dead) today, i don't give a shit about his God Damn tastes in films.

[Jim H]

This ass hole is the biggest mass murderer alive

Out of curiosity, can someone confirm this? I guess it's probably hard to be exact, but what about the various ethnic cleansings in Africa and elsewhere?

[Scarface98.9]

Originally posted by APzombie
i know dude, i agree. This ass hole is the biggest mass murderer alive (or dead) today, i don't give a shit about his God Damn tastes in films.
Actually, Joseph Stalin killed like 60 million people, so he may or may not still be the record holder for biggest mass murderer

[miguel_montes]

Him liking those movies doesn't change the fact that he is a criminal, murdering son of a bitch...

[APzombie]

i ment that if he was in fact still alive, he is likely to be concidered one, if not the biggest mass murderer today. If not, he can take his place behind Stalin, Hitler and those nutty African war lords...

[ReservoirDog]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
The Godfather and Vanilla Sky? He doesn't seem like such a bad guy now...;)

They also found a copy of Donnie Darko inside his DVD player. Some say it was the last movie he watched before he met his fate. This news should go over well with most of the schmoes here.

[Sigur509]

Originally posted by ReservoirDog
They also found a copy of Donnie Darko inside his DVD player. Some say it was the last movie he watched before he met his fate. This news should go over well with most of the schmoes here.

HA....

[ColinM]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
The Godfather and Vanilla Sky? He doesn't seem like such a bad guy now...;)

He had Pulp Fiction in his collection too...maybe you ARE Saddam!!!

[Invincible]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
Actually, Joseph Stalin killed like 60 million people

No he didnt! he murdered 30,000 people! 60 million? what the hell, where did you hear that?

[ColinM]

Originally posted by Invincible
No he didnt! he murdered 30,000 people! 60 million? what the hell, where did you hear that?

Stalin certainly killed more than 30,000. It is a pretty well documented fact that Stalin killed much more, and I think it may be millions. In fact, it's impossible to know exactly how many he killed since did a lot of it in secret, but it's well known that he killed more than Hitler...and probably anybody. 60 million sounds a little too high, but he killed a hell of a lot more than 30,000.

Not that any of this is movie-related, of course...

[Jim H]

Actually, Joseph Stalin killed like 60 million people, so he may or may not still be the record holder for biggest mass murderer

He isn't even close to Stalin, Hitler, or virtually any person who has commited ethnic cleansing. How many non-war deaths has he actually commited? I've never heard higher then 100,000 - and that was an extremist groups quotes.

Not to say he isn't a toal fuckwad or anything. Having 1 person killed for ridiculous reasons is enough for that.

He is worse then, say, Milosevic though.

[JustinKing665]

How the hell do you guys know what movies he watched? Where are you getting this information?

[XCoRyX]

Originally posted by APzombie
i know dude, i agree. This ass hole is the biggest mass murderer alive (or dead) today, i don't give a shit about his God Damn tastes in films.

totally...he may not be THE infact biggest,but hes currently on my the shit list,and in my time hes did alot of wrong.and its damn stupid to care about his movie likings if you ask me.

[Jim H]

I don't think anyone here truely CARES, they just think it is an interesting bit of trivia.

Like I find it interesting that Hitler loved his dogs. He can't be PURE EVIL then, can he? ;)

[QUENTIN]

Originally posted by APzombie
i ment that if he was in fact still alive, he is likely to be concidered one, if not the biggest mass murderer today. If not, he can take his place behind Stalin, Hitler and those nutty African war lords...

Not to forget Wilson, Truman (dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagaski, only person to use nuclear weapons, killed hundreds of thousands in a week), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon (all killing our own and roughly 1/4 the entire Vietnamese population), or Bush now (bombing and invading Iraq and now probably Syria or North Korea will likely be a higher death toll than Saddam could ever get).


Originally posted by Invincible
No he didnt! he murdered 30,000 people! 60 million? what the hell, where did you hear that?

You are way off, look in any history book, search online, any legitimate information resource and you'll find you've got about 1/100th the right number. Hitler is always condemned as the villian of World War II (I think wars have only villians, but that's another story), mostly because he was on the wrong side, but Stalin was a much bigger mass murderer and they were both genocidal madmen, it is well-known and documented that he killed 20,000,000 of his own people, and since so much of this was done in secret I imagine that number is only about 2/3 of the full amount, not to mention that Russia killed more people in World War II than any other country, so that's going to raise the number a shiteload. 60,000,000 might be a bit high, but it would have to be atleast 30,000,000, which I think would probably make him the biggest murderer in the history of the world.

I think people make light of Saddam all the time in anti-Iraq/anti-terrorist/anti-Muslim/or just anti-Saddam propoganda, so why not make light of it by getting to know that he had good taste in movies? It makes him no less of a psychopathic asshole, but I find it interesting that he has a lot in common film-wise with a lot of the schmoe populus.

Buying into the idea that Saddam is devil incarnate is kind of ignorant I think, but I see the purpose. After WWI so many soldiers came home feeling disenfranchised, they just saw horrible atrocities and didn't know what for, felt like they didn't solve anything and there was no point to all the death they witnessed or caused or barely avoided (the same thing happened after 'Nam too). But after WWII, the men had all the same problems of seeing so many people killed, but they felt like they accomplished something "We got rid of Hitler", and in general the country felt better about it. Thus I can see how it would make sense to turn Saddam into a more grand figure than he really is, but despite being a reprehensible murderous fuckwad, he's not any worse than a LOT of dictators, warlords, etc. we have around today, he's just the one America went after. One of the biggest mass murderers of all-time? No, he's really not.

[RicochetShaw]

yeah, way off on Stalin. I did a research paper on him a while back, between 20-30 million is a good estimate.... biggest murderer in history.

[Jim H]

Not to forget Wilson, Roosevelt (dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagaski, only person to use nuclear weapons, killed hundreds of thousands in a week)

You meant Truman there. It isn't the same thing as murder anyways, since it was war. You can call targetting civilians murder if you want to, I suppose, but things like the Geneva convention didn't exist during WWII, and targetting of civilians was done by all sides.

Heck, it finally ended a war that killed 50,000,000, who are we to argue it? Are any of the Schmoes old enough to have experienced what it was like at that time?

A better example is the fire bombing of Dresden, which killed over 135,000 German civilians, and it was essentially unneeded to end the war.

Read this (http://www.eppc.org/publications/xq/ASP/pubsID.123/qx/pubs_viewdetail.htm) for a comparison between the two. It is generally agreed by military historians that nuking Japan saved far more lives then it ended.

Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon (all killing our own and roughly 1/4 the entire Vietnamese population)

Johnson is the worst, since he even personally said to people privately he felt the war was unwinnable. Kennedy didn't really want to go into Vietnam much, which is a motive in one of the conspiracies. Supposedly, the arms industry had him killed (or a helicopter company) because they knew Johnson was much more interested in a massive invasion then Kennedy was. There are rumors Kennedy wanted to pull out even the small number of "advisors" he had sent there.

Kind of interesting really, he gets tons of blame for that and the Bay of Pigs, and he doesn't really deserve THAT much blame for either - he had no knowledge of the Bay of Pigs til it was virtually underway, and just accepted blame for it to save people from embarassment.

Bush now (bombing and invading Iraq and now probably Syria or North Korea will likely be a higher death toll than Saddam could ever get).

The death toll in Iraq is roughly 5,000. No matter how conservative the estimates on Saddam, he has killed far more then that. Even with Afghanistan, it's still about 25,000 - Saddam also has killed more then that. If we do invade both Syria and North Korea, you might end up being right that Bush will have ended up causing more deaths. We shall see though.

but Stalin was a much bigger mass murderer and they were both genocidal madmen

Stalin simply killed whomever even remotely got in his way, and also to use as scapegoats and such. He wasn't genocidal, if he was who was he trying to wipe out? Well, he DID wipe out the farmers who tried to keep using traditional methods - millions of them starved to death after he cut off all supplies to them. He wanted Russia to be modern like Europe.

They both killed people at around the same rate - 1-2 millionish a year, discounting wars. It is extremely hard to say who is worse morally.

[QUENTIN]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim H
You meant Truman there. It isn't the same thing as murder anyways, since it was war. You can call targetting civilians murder if you want to, I suppose, but things like the Geneva convention didn't exist during WWII, and targetting of civilians was done by all sides.

I did mean Truman, sorry I associate FDR with WWII, probably more due to war movies than anything else. I make no distinction between a murder in or out of a war, I think taking a human life is murder, whether you have a uniform and badge or not.

Heck, it finally ended a war that killed 50,000,000, who are we to argue it? Are any of the Schmoes old enough to have experienced what it was like at that time?

I am here to argue it, killing doesn't end killing, it only begets more killing. Peace is never attained through murder. No, none of us are old enough to have experienced it, but I don't think I need to experience or witness something to know its wrong. I've never seen anyone raped nor been raped, but I don't think I'd change my position on it if raping one woman meant two more were not raped. Rape is always wrong.

A better example is the fire bombing of Dresden, which killed over 135,000 German civilians, and it was essentially unneeded to end the war.

Also a good example, though I would argue killing over 135,000 people is always "essentially unneeded".

Read this (http://www.eppc.org/publications/xq/ASP/pubsID.123/qx/pubs_viewdetail.htm) for a comparison between the two. It is generally agreed by military historians that nuking Japan saved far more lives then it ended.

Yes, but who are we to decide who should die in order to "save" others from death? If you killing 1,000,000 newborn babies meant that WWII would never happen, Fascism would never rise, and Hitler and Stalin's insane murder tolls would never happen, would you do it? I know I couldn't be responsible for 1,000,000 deaths.


Johnson is the worst, since he even personally said to people privately he felt the war was unwinnable. Kennedy didn't really want to go into Vietnam much, which is a motive in one of the conspiracies. Supposedly, the arms industry had him killed (or a helicopter company) because they knew Johnson was much more interested in a massive invasion then Kennedy was. There are rumors Kennedy wanted to pull out even the small number of "advisors" he had sent there.

Johnson is definetly the worst, and Nixon prolonged the war for no good reason, I am aware that Kennedy wanted out and do believe it is likely the main reason he was killed, but as president there are steps he could have taken to prevent us from going over there like we did, sending all those troops and killing all those people. He may be least responsible, but I still find him responsible.

Kind of interesting really, he gets tons of blame for that and the Bay of Pigs, and he doesn't really deserve THAT much blame for either - he had no knowledge of the Bay of Pigs til it was virtually underway, and just accepted blame for it to save people from embarassment.

Well I think of the presidents we've had in the past 50 years he was one of the better ones, but it's not exactly top pickings.


The death toll in Iraq is roughly 5,000. No matter how conservative the estimates on Saddam, he has killed far more then that. Even with Afghanistan, it's still about 25,000 - Saddam also has killed more then that. If we do invade both Syria and North Korea, you might end up being right that Bush will have ended up causing more deaths. We shall see though.

I think America will be using the excuse of 9/11 to invade a lot of Islamic countries, countries that have Nuclear capabilities we are not allied with, and anyplace as Rumsfeld put it "terrorism germinates". We're using the mourning, fear, and vengeful attitude after a national tragedy to basically get rid of all our enemies and I think in the end the death toll will be much higher. But again, we're talking number of deaths like it's apples and oranges...5,000 killed, 25,000 killed, 30,000,000 killed...I don't see why anyone should ever have to be killed. Peaceful resolutions to problems bring about good will on both sides and avoid murder, non-violent resistance always seems to work (look at Jesus, Gandhi, MLK) and war and murder never do (if they did, we wouldn't continuously be going into new wars).



Stalin simply killed whomever even remotely got in his way, and also to use as scapegoats and such. He wasn't genocidal, if he was who was he trying to wipe out? Well, he DID wipe out the farmers who tried to keep using traditional methods - millions of them starved to death after he cut off all supplies to them. He wanted Russia to be modern like Europe.

If someone killed 1/3 the Japanese population because they thought they were in their way, I consider than genocidal, whether or not they were trying to wipe out the race. I know he did not have any of the "master race" beliefs the more traditionally genocidal Hitler held, but I'd call anyone wiping out 20,000,000 of the same culture/country genocidal.

They both killed people at around the same rate - 1-2 millionish a year, discounting wars. It is extremely hard to say who is worse morally.

Apples and oranges, like I said, deciding whether someone who started a war, killed 8-9 million people in death camps, and many more in war, or someone who killed 20-30 million of his own people and many more in a war, is worse morally seems kind of pointless to me. They are both wholly amoral if they could do such things.

[bankholdup]

So...Donnie Darko, huh? Not too shabby.


...I'm just trying to keep this on the topic of movies, so it doesn't get shut down.

[QUENTIN]

Originally posted by bankholdup
So...Donnie Darko, huh? Not too shabby.


...I'm just trying to keep this on the topic of movies, so it doesn't get shut down.

True that, my bad. So what do all you schmoes think about having a lot of faves in common with Saddam, interesting, no?

[BorderEevilIII]

Originally posted by SLAW
VANILLA SKY and OCEAN'S ELVEN (among others I like) were found in his presidential palace

I am assuming its the George Clooney Oceans 11 & not 'ol blue eyes w/ Frank Sinatra? And yeah Vanilla Sky, I guess he preferred to have BOTH Penelope & Cameron in it.....

[Jim H]

I am here to argue it, killing doesn't end killing, it only begets more killing. Peace is never attained through murder.

I'm glad the people who had that attitude in World War II didn't run the country. Do you really think there was any way we could of stopped Hitler, Mussolini and the Japanese generals WITHOUT violence? Explain how, please. I would really, really like to hear this.

Gandhi, MLK and Jesus were great men. But their combined non-violent resistance would of been meat in a grinder against the Axis.

I think taking a human life is murder, whether you have a uniform and badge or not.

I'd imagine the various army grunt schmoes on this board might find problems with that belief. But, I definetly understand your feelings on that. The world would be nice if EVERYONE thought that way, but until they do, we're going to need soldiers to kill people.

Peaceful resolutions to problems bring about good will on both sides and avoid murder, non-violent resistance always seems to work

You do realize they tried to be peaceful with Hitler for years - it didn't bring about any goodwill from him. He just kept conquering. If they had just crushed him immediately after the first country he conquered, tens of millions of lives could of been saved.

There are times when non-violent resistance could work, and times when it couldn't. I remember when I was given the chance to ask Ghandi's grandson a few questions, and one of the other people with me asked him how non-violent resistance could of dealt with Hitler, and he was unable to provide a good answer, despite obviously having been asked it before.

They are both wholly amoral if they could do such things.

I agree. I tend to believe Hitler actually believed in what he was doing though, whereas it seems Stalin just wanted power. I don't really think that makes Hitler much better, if at all.



Getting back on topic, what kind of porno did Saddam have? Who's his fave starlet?

[bankholdup]

I too would like to know what kind of porn Saddam is into.

Maybe sometimes, but not often, he likes the idea of a chick with a horse.

[movies35]

I think JoBlo is going to close this now! It isn't talking about the movies anymore. But if you don't want the thread closed, you should start talking about the movies Saddam likes and not how many people he killed.

[Jim H]

Maybe sometimes, but not often, he likes the idea of a chick with a horse.

Maybe a camel, who knows?

[Invincible]

Originally posted by Jim H
Maybe a camel, who knows?

fuckin' goat...:D

[BorderEevilIII]

Baaaaaaaahck to topic ppl

[flowrchild]

Aw come on, there's nothing quite as uplifting as barnyard animal sexual banter

;)

[Scarface98.9]

It's said that Saddam quotes The Godfather a lot. It's quite hard to believe that I share my favorite movie of all time with a man who's killed a large percentage of his population. I better find a new favorite movie.

Getting back on topic, what kind of porno did Saddam have? Who's his fave starlet?

Whenever I see him on camera, I always get a Jenna Jameson vibe from him. He lives in the best of palaces, has the best TV's, watches the best movies, so I think he would naturally want the best he can get from the honorable adult film industry. Of course, don't be surprised if they find his giant porn collection and find it "mysteriously" disappearing after soldiers uncover it

[ReservoirDog]

Getting back on topic, what kind of porno did Saddam have? Who's his fave starlet?


I think if I was Saddam, I wouldnt have any pornos on DVD. With all that money I would just hire porn stars that work for me 365 days a year and have them act out sex scenes live 24 hours a day.

[Negrotigre]

Originally posted by Invincible
No he didnt! he murdered 30,000 people! 60 million? what the hell, where did you hear that?

He did kill 60 million, at least twenty million directly by starving people, random executuions, etc. the rest of the number is credited him fro killing all his top generals before the war with Germany. They had no leaders to help plan a counteroffensive. It's in the history books, also you can buy the autobiography "MONSTER" by A&E, it shows a true face of evil.

[Negrotigre]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
It's said that Saddam quotes The Godfather a lot. It's quite hard to believe that I share my favorite movie of all time with a man who's killed a large percentage of his population. I better find a new favorite movie.

Getting back on topic, what kind of porno did Saddam have? Who's his fave starlet?

Whenever I see him on camera, I always get a Jenna Jameson vibe from him. He lives in the best of palaces, has the best TV's, watches the best movies, so I think he would naturally want the best he can get from the honorable adult film industry. Of course, don't be surprised if they find his giant porn collection and find it "mysteriously" disappearing after soldiers uncover it

I heard that he based his policy with the US on what he gleamed from Blackhawk Down. He surmised that americans had no follow thru, and if they could cause us even a little blood shed, we'd negotiate a truce.

[Jim H]

He didn't base it on Blackhawk Down. He based it on his first war with America/Coalition, in which he was exactly right - we left him in power, and in some ways actually helped him since after the war he had an excellent scapegoat for all of their problems.

[commandant]

wow him and i must have some things in common, i own all of those movies on dvd

[JustinKing665]

Let me repeat this question again because I'm getting very frustrated that people are ignoring it:

How the hell do you guys know what movies he watched? Where are you getting this information?

[Negrotigre]

Originally posted by JustinKing665
Let me repeat this question again because I'm getting very frustrated that people are ignoring it:

How the hell do you guys know what movies he watched? Where are you getting this information?

I've seen it reported on CNN news I believe it was. He's an avid film watcher, along with his deputy prime minister, the one we have in custody. I forget his name.