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Senefra
08-06-2001, 07:38 PM
OK I have some spoilers, but very few so bear with me!

1)The Space station recieves a distress signal sent by it's future to warn it however they do not recognize themselves on screen because their future selves have aged.

2)Leo mentions this in the beginning of the film. The primates on that station carried genetically spliced ape/human DNA to make them more evolved intelectually. This proves to be a problem because not only will they evolve mentally, but once they have crash landed, they are given a chance to evolve over a few thousand instead of a few million.

3)During this time humans have already hit their evolutionary stride. These apes however are more mentally advanced, thus allowing them to enslave humanity before they reach their mental evolutionairy peak. Even so, he humans to ape ratio is 4:1, meaning that not all of the humans have been enslaved.

4)Thade's family goes back to Seamus, one of the genetically hybrid primates from the original space station. Since Seamus lead the other primates in a revolt against their human hosts, they must have aquired some weapons from the ship, thus the reason for Thade having the gun.

5)My theory on Seamus is this. Before leaving Pericles mated with one of the female primates. This female gave birth to Seamus after the space station crashed, and as mentioned by the "aged" doctor in the distress signal, was raised by the doctor. But since Seamus parentage was genetically hybrid human/apes, his intelligence level was double, maybe even quadruple that, of the other primates, making him the leader of the revolt because of it.

6)Seamus must have known his father or Leo hadn't arrived on the planet, probably from past records on the space station. Knowing from these records that Pericles' ship was programmed to automatically head for the distress signal, and knowing it was transmitting from the derelict space station's future, he spawned this "legend of Seamus's return". Since Seamus knew Pericles was his father, he knew the evolved apes would mistake Pericles for himself, and so he made the location of his return "Calima" (CAution LIve MAmmals sign abbreviated), in other words, the derelict ship's location.

7)As for Leo's return to an ape-ruled earth where Thade is a savior, I believe Leo was dreaming the whole thing and is still heading for earth. Otherwise, why would Thade look like Lincoln? Or all of the buildings and monuments seem the same?

8)I believe Burton was trying to give us a shock value of an ending, wheter it pissed us off or left us wondering what the hell happened to our planet. I know he wasn't trying to top the original's ending w/the Statue of Liberty, but I thing he wanted to bring the same shock to the system. Thus the outrage of an ending.

9)If there is a sequel, maybe we'll see Leo wake up from the "nightmare ending", probably having been knocked unconcious by the time jump. He wakes up in an infirmiry of some kind and tells his story, but I'm guessing the earth he'll be on will be an ape/human society because of the resolution between the evolved apes and the wild humans towards the end of the first one.

Oh well, that's it for now, but if you guys have any other theories or want to add to the ones above, let me know.

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The Heart Collector
08-06-2001, 10:14 PM
Here Are My Theories:

1) Due to quantum leaps and whatnot, Joblo will come here soon, close the thread, and redirect you to the other POTA Ending Theories thread.


2) I'm an ass.

Senefra
08-06-2001, 10:21 PM
I'm going with number two THC, however simplistic it may be! Besides, I included all of my theories on the film, not just the ones for the ending, so technically it doesn't belong in the endings post.... /ubb/tongue.gif

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SIREN30
08-07-2001, 02:56 PM
I think your reasoning is very sound Senefra and that they coincide w/ some of the others I've heard. I don't know about the "dream theory" though. I don't see why everyone's having such a hard time seeing why General Thade couldnt have fixed up Leo's ship, set a course for earth and changed everything from way in the past...he now had the knowledge of technology by the large ship's log etc. Anyway, my only confusion is w/ the fact that, if the planet isnt earth that he crashed on..(first)then where did the horses come from?

APzombie
08-07-2001, 04:55 PM
***SPOILERS***

my theary is that when he went back to earth he went a couple thousand years forward instead of back, the 2026 is how many years he went forward. Therfor people and apes never got along after that and the apes won over again,they evolved the same way we did because of the moniter of all earths past events (as seen in the begining).

and if thats not a good enough theary than what is!

Senefra
08-07-2001, 10:51 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SIREN30:
I think your reasoning is very sound Senefra and that they coincide w/ some of the others I've heard. I don't know about the "dream theory" though. I don't see why everyone's having such a hard time seeing why General Thade couldnt have fixed up Leo's ship, set a course for earth and changed everything from way in the past...he now had the knowledge of technology by the large ship's log etc. Anyway, my only confusion is w/ the fact that, if the planet isnt earth that he crashed on..(first)then where did the horses come from?</font>


Thank you, I'm happy for the aknowledgement, that's quite a compliment! /ubb/biggrin.gif

I'm sorry I didn't mention this earlier Siren, maybe I was being unclear. If you look at theory #3 in my original post, I did state that the apes arrived before humanity reached their mental (and societal) peak, but I never stated what planet it was. I think Leo might have landed in Earth's past, but I'm not too sure it was Earth.

As for the dream sequence, I put that out there because Thade's memorial and Washington D.C. carried too many similarites to the way human society orginally built them. Therefore, I thought maybe Leo got knocked out during the time jump and dreamt of an ape society with these similar characteristics, that's all.

And that last infirmary theory with the ape/human coexistence? I just remembered bits and pieces from some of the sequels to the originals, but I haven't researched any of it yet, so it might not be a possibility, but then again, it might. However I don't think we'll know for sure until the sequel is actually made and released, if even that happens.


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