Who´s gonna return for a X-Men 3?

[Sad man]

**Spoilers**...Don´t read If you havent seen X2.

This is from Dark Horizons:

X3: Famke Janssen talked with The Toronto Sun and revealed a solid commitment to return in some capacity in a third "X-Men" flick - "I have a firm commitment to the X-Men movies. They are my priority. I've signed for a third. If, and when, it happens I'll arrange my schedule around it...I have no idea where the writers will go with Jean's story, but there are some great possibilities and ones I'd really like to explore". Meanwhile E! Online reports that ex-footballer Daniel Cudmore (Colossus) has also signed for the next film, however according to The Calgary Sun Director Bryan Singer isn't so sure - "I would definitely be involved in some capacity on a third X-Men film because I love the franchise and I love the cast, but I don't necessarily see myself having to direct it...I have purposely incorporated things into X2 and have ideas that would lend themselves to future pictures, but certain circumstances would have to be appropriated because I really want to do a few small pictures before I tackle another big, special-effects movie". Already a first weekend of May 2006 release has been targeted. Thanks to 'FanHalen', 'Micah', 'Dimitri' & 'JHBlade'.

So, what do you all think?...Is Famke Janssen returning?
Who´s gonna leave?....Be free!

[therealjohng]

Everyone who didn't die and of course Famke Janssen.

[NuclearMisfit]

I would like to see all of the cast return including Tyler Mane who played Sabertooth in the first flick. From the storyline point of view I would like to see some Sentinels going after the mutants and the beginning of the war, new mutants like gambit, angel and Beast, QuickSilver, Scarlett Witch. I think Rogue should drain the power of Marvel girl and finally fly like in the comics as well as Storm. And More Berserker attacks from Wolverine.

[NuclearMisfit]

as well as a hell of alot more cameos.

[eraserhead_99]

I wanna see collossus and i wanna see the pheonix saga. I also'd like gambit, beast, and juggernaut.

[Sad man]

Originally posted by eraserhead_99
I wanna see collossus and i wanna see the pheonix saga. I also'd like gambit, beast, and juggernaut.

I never liked the Phoenix thing.
Gambit was one of my favourite x-men, and Beast´d be very cool.The are both returning for X3, since they had very short "cameos".
The sentinels were always my favourite villains, they were so dumb!...I really liked when the x-men kicked their asses.

Rogue should do something in X3, she was pointless in X2.

[FilmBuff84]

Well, the Blue Crew is a lock -- Alan Cumming (newcomer Nightcrawler) and Rebecca Romijn-Stamos (the more "fleshed out" Mystique) have both signed for a third mutant adventure.

Officially joining them will be "the kids", Anna Paquin (Rogue), Shawn Ashmore (Iceman) and Aaron Stanford (Pyro), all of whom are also already on board. Famke Janssen (Jean Grey) will also be there, at least on paper.

None of the remaining key players -- Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Halle Berry, Ian McKellan and James Marsden -- are legally obligated to return. This in no way means they won't, of course... they just have room for negotiations. Jackman himself was recently quoted as saying he'd like to reprise his Wolverine role once more before handing over the reins to the younger generation.

Info from 'Chud'

[Kim_EZ]

Daniel Cudmore will come back as Colossus. IMDB says that he's 6'8. I find that hard to believe. He didn't look 6'8.

[Pootie]

Beast and Gambit were always my faves, I'm both surprised and cheezed they havnt made it into the series yet. (other than a stupid cameo)

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by Sad man
I never liked the Phoenix thing.

The sentinels were always my favourite villains, they were so dumb!...I really liked when the x-men kicked their asses.



Yeah the Pheonix Saga really stunk and I agree it was pretty fun to see Wolvie run up a Sentinels arm and go apeshit on him ripping the Sentinel a new hole.

[quoth_the_raven]

Originally posted by Kim_EZ
Daniel Cudmore will come back as Colossus. IMDB says that he's 6'8. I find that hard to believe. He didn't look 6'8.


well i wont be questioning the guy. hes 10 inches taller than me lol! mind you, i still say i could take him ;)

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
well i wont be questioning the guy. hes 10 inches taller than me lol! mind you, i still say i could take him ;)

Hey Ill take him low if you take him high. We could take him.

[bob]

Yeah, I'd like to see more of colossus. That scene where he punched the guy through the wall was cool.


Hmm....That was the stupidest thing I've ever written.:D

Any word on Kelly Hu returning?

[quoth_the_raven]

Originally posted by bob


Any word on Kelly Hu returning?


SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1






















Unless they cloned her somehow, i cant see it. i think even a healing ability has some limits lol!!!!!she did look pretty dead last i saw...

[bob]

SPOILERS

There was word she might return as a cyborg or something. It'd be a shame not to bring her back, a cool character was kind of wasted.

[Sad man]

Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless they cloned her somehow, i cant see it. i think even a healing ability has some limits lol!!!!!she did look pretty dead last i saw...

I heard rumors about her returning.Not as a character of the movie, but in flash backs about Logan´s story or something.

[FilmGeek101]

I think that Famke Janssen should stay out of X3, but be metioned thoughout ala flashbacks or what not. Then have Famke return in X4 to showcase the Phoenix Saga and or Dark Phoenix Saga with the hellfire club. If they do the Phoenix Saga in X3 it would seem to be rushed and basically suck...

http://thedarkphoenixsaga.dreamers.com/galeria/postales/postal9.jpg

[DevilMonkey]

X2 sucked (4/10) so please don't make a third, hey I take that back everyone is going to start bashing AP :(!

[NuclearMisfit]

I would like to see the slaughtering of the Morlocks and that would be an introduction to Gambit since he lead the Mutant Massacre and if they did this in the movie then they could have a cameo by Marrow.

[XCoRyX]

i have a feeling most of the cast would return,thinking of how much money this series makes and they make off it.

[FilmBuff84]

Dark Horizons has reported that Hugh Jackman won't fully commit yet, even though he's interested. Alan, Rebecca, Shawn and Daniel are back and Halle is OUT!

Bryan Singer is also stepping to the side.

Interesting, Singer has done good thing with these films, hopefully he will still be involved, and Storm out????, maybe they'll replace her which I don't like, or if they are gonna get rid of her, she should at least be in it for a little while. Interesting news.

[Sad man]

Originally posted by FilmBuff84
Dark Horizons has reported that Hugh Jackman won't fully commit yet, even though he's interested. Alan, Rebecca, Shawn and Daniel are back and Halle is OUT!

Bryan Singer is also stepping to the side.

Interesting, Singer has done good thing with these films, hopefully he will still be involved, and Storm out????, maybe they'll replace her which I don't like, or if they are gonna get rid of her, she should at least be in it for a little while. Interesting news.

Actually I don´t really mind STORM getting out.She was really cool in the comic books and the animated series, but I didn´t like her in the movies.But they should do something about it, she can´t just go...They can make her die or something.
If Bryan gets out, then X3 is gonna suck.Look at what happened with Jurassic Park 3... :mad:

[APzombie]

For the X-MEN, I would like to see Beast and/or Angel, Gambit, and more Colossus!

as for the others, definatley the return of Sabertooth, The Blob (hell ya), and some Sentinel action...

of course, i don't expect everyone on my list to get it (leave room for a 4 ;) ) and with every new mutant you bring in, you might have to take away another (like Lady Deathstrike cutting out Sabertooth and Nightcrawler cutting out Toad for X2).

[XCoRyX]

if hugh doesnt return,dont make it that simple...

sucks halle will be out,dont want someone replacing her,just maybe explain her being killed off...or worse comes to worse,maybe an X3 isnt needed,i'll have to further make that decision when i see X2.

[Sad man]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
if hugh doesnt return,dont make it that simple...

sucks halle will be out,dont want someone replacing her,just maybe explain her being killed off...or worse comes to worse,maybe an X3 isnt needed,i'll have to further make that decision when i see X2.

We need an X3!!!

[XCoRyX]

i will likely feel the same way.

[pseudo_HERO]

I'm not an avid comic book reader, but I read somewhere that Deathstrike isn't a mutant, she was turned into a cyborg by another mutant called Spiral. So, maybe all that adamantium in her may be used for future prospects of her character, since, in the comics, she's a cyborg.

The Phoenix Saga is actually a compelling story about love and sacrifice, however, they showed it on the cartoon and dude, they couldn't stop showing it, so if they ARE going to make the Phoenix Saga, I doubt I'll be that interested because I've seen it a billion times and I absolutely hated it. And from the cartoon, they would have to not only get all X-MEN together but the universe as well. If they kill off Wolverine or cast someone else, I bet it's going to be nothing more than another Batman Forever. They shouldn't recast major characters.

Knowing for a fact Singer isn't going to be involved with the movie, I doubt anything after X2 will have any success. The X-MEN isn't going to be just a regular trilogy, it's going to be a long grueling series that will probably end up on WB after Smallville. I think it'll have more success as a tv drama than a movie knowing how complex the comic is. Besides, all I see on the message boards are pleas for cameos or complaints about screen time. It's like dude, what about the people who haven't read the comics or seen the cartoon? And what I hate the most is how people on this board would get so upset about people who question Jean Grey's death. They're all like, "Hello, don't you know she's the phoenix? She didn't die, she lives.. duh *tosses hair*" It's so irritating, honestly. Give these kids a break man, if they don't know don't be a dick! Seriously.

Anyway, knowing that X-MEN was just forum for upcoming actors, Hugh Jackman, Rebecca Romein Stamos, Famke Janseen, and many more, everyone is going to go their separate ways. There's no guarantee that the cast in X1 is going to stay for more, so don't get your hopes up. And the direction the movie is heading, I'm already less interested. Phoenix? Blah! Sentinals? Hell yea!

cheers!

[XCoRyX]

i agree,these films basically were likely taken because of the attention the then less name actors would get,and hopefully try and boost their name and stardom and it worked.But even if X3 is made and turns out crappy w/o singer and berry and even jackman if worse comes to worse,it will still make loads of money.The average moviefan (not us on the boards,just your daily everyday people who go to the cinema for boredom and shits and giggles) won't realize it will be crappy until they pay the money to see it.But as of now its hard for me to make a steady clear decision.

[NuclearMisfit]

I can care less if Halley is in it, she didnt really shock me in both of the flicks as for the Storm character they could write her off as going to Africa to help a tribe who is suffering from drought with her powers. Wolverine could be wrote off too as being in the Weapon X Program or Alpha Flight maybe just a short part written for him. Maybe the next movie will be about the original x-men such as Beast, Angel, Iceman,Cyclops and Jean.

http://comolo.redsectorart.com/images/covers/original/uxm001.jpg

[quoth_the_raven]

Originally posted by Sad man
I heard rumors about her returning.Not as a character of the movie, but in flash backs about Logan´s story or something.


eh, yeah that occured to me ths morning. several hours after that very post of mine... lol...

[Sculder]

***Possible Spoilers***



Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
I would like to see all of the cast return including Tyler Mane who played Sabertooth in the first flick. From the storyline point of view I would like to see some Sentinels going after the mutants and the beginning of the war, new mutants like gambit, angel and Beast, QuickSilver, Scarlett Witch. I think Rogue should drain the power of Marvel girl and finally fly like in the comics as well as Storm. And More Berserker attacks from Wolverine.

I really would like to see Rogue get her super strength and finally kick ass.Bringing in Gambit would make her life more interesting too. Iceman is a bit wet for her.No puns intended!

The Sentinels,Apocalypse or Mr.Sinister would be great villains.

Another addition I would really like would be Emma Frost(White Queen).This would tie in with the Phoenix Saga.

Finally more screen time for Colossus and Shadowcat would be great. I really want to see Colossus do the "fastball special" with Wolverine.Especially through a Sentinel.

[Duder]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
The average moviefan (not us on the boards,just your daily everyday people who go to the cinema for boredom and shits and giggles) won't realize it will be crappy until they pay the money to see it.But as of now its hard for me to make a steady clear decision.


Not us ?
A lot of people on this board pay to see really crappy movies ?
xXx ?
The Fast and the Furious ?
and lots more ...

Sorry, this isn't the topic but I had to say it ...

Also, I'd like a X3 if Bryan Singer and Hugh Jackman are back and then they can do watever they want with the franchise I would always consider it as one of the greatest trilogy.

[Nachokoolaid]

I think some of you are forgetting that X-men is not simply a trilogy. I think of it as something like the James Bond franchise. Hugh Jackman already hinted at the fact that the principle actors will one day have to be recast for a younger generation. The movies will go on. It won't stop with just three films. The key to recasting actors is to not do it all at once. Recast a couple here, a couple there, etc. Also, not every X-man has to be in every film. That;s what great about the story. You can have some off doing something, and focus a whole film on a small team of them working together to defeat an enemy. The possiblities are limitless. There are story arcs that even lend themselves to the recasting such as the Age of Apocalypse thing, where Magneto becomes a young man, etc. I look forward to seeing a new X-men film every few years, just like 007.

[dh1989]

Originally posted by DevilMonkey
X2 sucked (4/10) so please don't make a third, hey I take that back everyone is going to start bashing AP :(!

Well, you thought someone would do it. I don't want to let you down: Austin Powers is an okay comedy series that has become hugely lame, while the X-Men films are original, funny, action-packed, and well-made. No comparison: Mediocre series to a great series.

[eraserhead_99]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
I would like to see the slaughtering of the Morlocks and that would be an introduction to Gambit since he lead the Mutant Massacre and if they did this in the movie then they could have a cameo by Marrow.

oh man gamibt and a marrow cameo would be badass

Whats with all the Pheonix saga hating?!

[Sad man]

From Dark Horizons:
X3: Production Designer Guy Dyas spoke with Countingdown about all sorts of design work required for the over five dozen sets used in "X2", and talk came up of the inevitable sequel which he says he hasn't heard anything official about as of yet. He did confirm some of the designs they did for "X2" but not used in the film will be saved for future films. Amongst those are the following, see if you can guess which ones will eventually see the light of day: "The Danger Room and the Danger Toom control room (where someone can monitor & supervise the training sessions), Beast and Beast's laboratory, Angel and Archangel, The interior of Alkali Lake's abandoned base which included some very intricate prison cells and a giant cylindrical room where a big mid-air fight sequence was going to happen between Toad and Nightcrawler, a land vehicle that was going to come out of the cargo area of the X-Jet, and a secret level in the Pentagon in Washington D.C.". Thanks to 'David'

That sounds pretty good. :cool:

[Duder]

Originally posted by Nachokoolaid
Hugh Jackman already hinted at the fact that the principle actors will one day have to be recast for a younger generation.

I think what Jackman meant was about the younger cast in the movies. HTe kid at the school that haven't had the chance to fight, they are the next generation of x-men, they will have to fight when Wolverinw, Cyclops, Storm and of them disappear or die or just leave. Iceman is one of those from the next generation, with Rogue, they'll fight Pyro and one day, Iceman and Pyro will be like, Professor X and Magneto, ok, that's too much but, you know what I'm saying. I think that's what Jackman meant, well I hope, they better never change the actors. There are so many x-men outthere, they don't need to use the same forever.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Sad man
**Spoilers**...Don´t read If you havent seen X2.

This is from Dark Horizons:

X3: Famke Janssen talked with The Toronto Sun and revealed a solid commitment to return in some capacity in a third "X-Men" flick - "I have a firm commitment to the X-Men movies. They are my priority. I've signed for a third. If, and when, it happens I'll arrange my schedule around it...I have no idea where the writers will go with Jean's story, but there are some great possibilities and ones I'd really like to explore". Meanwhile E! Online reports that ex-footballer Daniel Cudmore (Colossus) has also signed for the next film, however according to The Calgary Sun Director Bryan Singer isn't so sure - "I would definitely be involved in some capacity on a third X-Men film because I love the franchise and I love the cast, but I don't necessarily see myself having to direct it...I have purposely incorporated things into X2 and have ideas that would lend themselves to future pictures, but certain circumstances would have to be appropriated because I really want to do a few small pictures before I tackle another big, special-effects movie". Already a first weekend of May 2006 release has been targeted. Thanks to 'FanHalen', 'Micah', 'Dimitri' & 'JHBlade'.

So, what do you all think?...Is Famke Janssen returning?
Who´s gonna leave?....Be free!


Famke Jannsen, Anna Paquin, Alan Cummings, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos and the kid who played IceMan all are contracted to appear in a third X-Men movie. The others like Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellan, James Marsden, and Halle Berry are not and will have to be convinced to return. Here's hoping they at least get Jackman back.

[Spinaltap2003]

I think that the entire cast should stay for at least one more movie, but if anyone decides to leave I have a bad feeling it could be Hugh Jackman. That would suck ass, but they could make up for it by introducing Gambit as a new character. As long as they don't cast someone like Heath Ledger as Gambit, then that character would kick ass.

[Scarface98.9]

Just as long as they get Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, and Ian McKellan back, I'll be as happy as a pig in shit

[DaMovieMan]

I think the only one that may not return in X3 is Storm, Halle Berry which is kinda shitty coz she is one of the key X-Men. I wouldnt want her to die but, maybe as someone suggested above, for her to have other priorities like going back to Africa.

Mr. Sinister should be included in the next series, that would introduce Morph and Gambit as new X-Men. But i doubt that will happend. Xavier's half brother Jauggernaut could have a cool introduction (and with Rogue draining the power she will have) that could be a very cool duel.

I wouldnt mind if Magneto isnt in the next one, coz they dont alywas have to be the same (like someone said before) and Mystique could team up with someone else (Sinister :)) or Omega Red.
Man, there are so many options.

DMM

[Nachokoolaid]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
Just as long as they get Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, and Ian McKellan back, I'll be as happy as a pig in shit

DITTO


I'd like to see a story that doesn't focus on the Pheonix. Let Jean's death be on the back burner for a second. Have half the X-men go off and fight in that Lost Land, with all the dinosaurs, where they don't have their powers, and Prof-X can walk and stuff. It would be a good time to focus on the Xavier/Magneto relationship, having them survive in the wilderness and help each other survive without their powers. Then have Logan and some others go after him, while a couple of the others are left at home to face some other threat, say perhaps the Morlocks ot the Juggernaut. There could be some cool Wolverine vs. Raptor fight scenes, and all sorts of stuff. By splitting the team, there could be a focus on other characters that normally don't get a lot of screen time. I think it's awesome. Bring in Gambit or something, and have Bobby lead the team at the house, and since he's so young, but he's been there the longest, he'd be the leader. Gambit would show up, challenge his authority, Rogue falls for him, love triangle... you know where this goes. It's a good way to introduce Gambit, not have Pheonix right away, but keep the focus on the imprtance of Xavier and Magneto, and have this done with two world class actors.

[Shockwave]

After the insane amount of money its making id say nearly everyone is most likely to return. As long as they put Mr. Sinister(the man!!) in the next one(maybe as the person controling Jean)ill be most happy.But Proteus or Shadow King would be cool as well!:D

[Nachokoolaid]

Originally posted by Shockwave
After the insane amount of money its making id say nearly everyone is most likely to return. As long as they put Mr. Sinister(the man!!) in the next one(maybe as the person controling Jean)ill be most happy.But Proteus or Shadow King would be cool as well!:D

And we all know that Gambit is introduced in the comics in the shadow king story line. That's his fist appearance ever in a comic. Some don't know this, but he originally threw metal spikes, not playing cards. Oh, I have this issue by the way. That's my claim to comic fame.

[DaMovieMan]

And as we all know, Gambit has a dubious past (like most X-Men) and it is rumoured that Mr. Sinister is his daddy.


i.e.



PUT FUCKING MR. SINISTER IN THE NEXT DAMN IT!!!!

dmm

[NuclearMisfit]

Originally posted by Nachokoolaid
where they don't have their powers, and Prof-X can walk and stuff.

I just found out recently in the new X-Men that the good professor can walk now, thats pretty rad I think.

[NotKeyserSoze]

X-Men has so many huge storylines that the only reason the previous 2 movies have been a bit lame is.. well, neither has been able to really grapple with a proper story. The Phoenix saga (very, very dull in my opinion) has recieved such doddering beginnings in X2 that non-hardcore fans like me have very little idea what the Hell is going on. Now, if you made a movie out of the Apocalypse story (instantly allowing Cable, Forge and Bishop)... I mean Jesus, what a friggin' movie!! And who wouldn't want to watch our heroes (and Magneto... McKellen, in the first X-Men at least, got all the best lines, ignoring his camp "We love what you've done with your hair" nonsense in X2) vs Mr Sinister, one of the all time most... well, bloody Sinister comic villains??

I'm well aware that tons of characters have been agonisingly left out... is anyone else itching to see Gambit blow some stuff up, Beast save lives, Archangel turn up and shred something with his wings, or the tons of other "where are they?" great characters to make an appearance? Now, love Collossus' cameo as I did (and I DID), it just wasn't enough. Use the Apocalypse storyline... you'll get shitloads of action, you'll FINALLY be able to dump this slow love-triangle level character focus, and do what we the fans want! Showcase all the mutants' strengths!

Think of it. Apocalypse and some Sentinels (okay, a bit hokey but I can dream) vs ALL the X-Men... Nightcrawler zipping around, Collossus beating the fuck out of some stuff, Wolverine going nuts, Gambit blowing up most of the sentinels, Rogue finally doing her cartoon stuff and damned PUNCHING the bastards...

Alas, as long as X-Men is a "film about the deep personalities of the characters" and not "a big kickass action movie," disappointment will be all we get. And that, friends, is why X2 was a big load of horse manure.

And r.i.p, Lady Deathstrike. We barely knew you.

[Shockwave]

But X-men 2 wasnt a dissapointment, in fact its easily one of the best comic book movies ever and its raking in the money. Id say it worked out pretty damn well.:cool:

[quoth_the_raven]

of course!

Notkeyser has hit on it. lets chuck lot and lots of new stuff in there. as much new stuff as can fit. ram it in with a big pole. then wonder why the 3rd film makes no sense....

:rolleyes:

alas, you cant cram the whole lot in one go.


and hey theres been nothing wrong with the last 2 movies. then again, i am not a huge comic fan, so i dont really have many preconceptions...

i think they are introducting things at about the right pace so far. too many cooks would spoil the broth after all. its nice, and even, and it all makes sense.

besides, it would be silly to blow the whole wad of a moneyearner like this is one go...

well, i think they done a great job and should keep the pace going as it is. too much would blow it all far too early.


:D

[NotKeyserSoze]

Interesting how a room full of people chant for Apocalypse and action scenes and nobody complains... I mention it, ass-biting begins...

All I'm saying is X2 dragged out the exposition card (Wolverine is mysterious! Mutants get experimented on!) yet still left far, far too much room for questions. We'll never, for instance, know more than skin-deep facts about Cyclops or certainly cameos like Collossus. If Gambit etc show up in the next movie, I know full well we probably won't find out about them until an installment or two later. I'm getting tired of the Wolverine emphasis - and yes he's cool, but there's tons of characters overlooked here. I know we can't possibly explain them all, but just a little attempt would be nice.

And what's the problem with wanting more action, this is a comic book movie for God's sake. X2 was long and badly edited, most of the action scenes were too short (Wolverine's rage was more like Wolverine's brief yelp, and Lady Deathstrike did NOTHING until her final scene) and the confusing fans-only finale left me with one annoyed conclusion: I don't think the makers of this stuff really know how to organise it. Tons of characters, tons of special abilities, none of it being put into any real use. We've yet to see Rogue fly or, well, do anything at all, and half the best characters (Gambit etc) aren't even here.

So shoot me if I actually want to get comic book action out of a comic book movie - Spider-Man, cliched or not, delivered that in spades. X-Men is delving into cliche and parody ("We love what you've done with your hair"), and singling out the non-fans (The Phoenix Saga? Um, am I the only one who left the movie bewildered?) in a wholely unfair way. What happened to exposition?

And anyway, if you're going to complain about jamming loads of characters in there, what the hell did the comic do?? X-Men is all about a GROUP of superheroes, doing stuff as a group. If they really wanted to make Wolverine's life story, why not give him the spinoff they're talking about and have done with it. If the comics are loaded with grandiose, amazing battle storylines, why aren't the movies? Hell, if the Matrix can do it...

Overall, the movies are doing too little too slow. If you want them to "get to the big stuff at a proper pace," it seems it'll be at least 2 movies before I get what I originally hoped for. Again, shoot me for wanting a comic book out of... a comic book.

[quoth_the_raven]

just to clear one point, i wasnt picking on you. and i have never chanted for apocalypse....although it would be nice, so long as they managed to do it in a way that didnt neccessitate me thinking too much ;)

like someone said, this is likely to become like the james bond series. its gonna grow and grow, and over time, different characters will be introduced.. so i am sure we will get more on who you want in the end.

i will agree on one thing with you though...i do feel deathstrike was criminally underused.



i have never into the comic books more than the odd cursory glance really. whether this has effected my opinions...i dont know.

hmmm i do think all the battle stops will be pulled out in the next movie. we have had some tasters so far, i think, that things could get explosive and i think maybe x3 will satisfy you mate

shall we call truce now? ;)

[NotKeyserSoze]

sure thing. i just hate the way x-men and x2 have teased and hinted - they feel like masses of build-up that so far, haven't really built up to anything. As a franchise, X-Men could blow the roof off Bond or maybe even the Matrix. But at the moment, I still feel they're in preparatory stages, doddering around trying to wait for someone to suggest the best plot situation to really let rip.

So all in all, I'm gagging for what so far isn't in the movies. More Nightcrawler! More Collossus! Gambit!

And, on the count of three children: A-PO-CA-LYPSE, A-PO-CA-LYPSE...

[quoth_the_raven]

nothing is better than Bond. much as i love x-men, it will never hold that same special place in my heart ;)

[adamjohnson]

Alllllrighty HERES SOME NEWS

just caught some tv guide channel, Alan Cumming, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Collusus, and FAMKE are all already signed on for X-3. So that means that whoever thought Jean isnt in the third installment is W-R-O-N-G. see ya

[Shockwave]

All they need is collusus and wolverine kicking butt for a hour and a half and id be there.

As for villians i was rather releived that a big foe was not in the 2nd. With Magneto in it from the first it would have been overkill and Striker gave the regular humans a face that was very much appriciated.


But for the 3rd i want Sinister! Dammit all to hell, it could just be a cameo at the end like the president turn around and u see the sinister emblem on his forehead or something! anything!

[quoth_the_raven]

actually based on my rather limited knowledge, id like to see Juggernaut in the third or fourth film...

:)

[Zipperboy]

Originally posted by NotKeyserSoze
X-Men has so many huge storylines that the only reason the previous 2 movies have been a bit lame is.. well, neither has been able to really grapple with a proper story.


Dude, I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree with you more. First of all X-2 was based, pretty much entirely on "God Loves Man Kills" down to the villain, the cerebro machine, and a kidnapped proffessor X.

None of the X-men comics have had all of the X-men in it, come on, that's just ridiculus, there's hundreds of them. X-Men and X-2 weren't "building up", unless you consider every comic book with a story to be continued is building up. The reason I love the X-men movies and Spider-man were because I thought they fit the comic book format. Not only that, the stories were more or less ripped directly from the pages and altered so that we get a "new" story.

I've heard that a scene with Gambit was filmed and intended to be put in the end of X-2, but it was irrelevant to the rest of the film and was left out, but I don't have a source for this.

I think X-3 should have the main characters of X-men and X-2 put into a situation that keeps them out of the movie and force some new, unfamiliar X-men into active duty, but those familiar members should be seen in at least the beginning of the film.

The X-Men franchise has a lot of potential as long as these stories keep leading into eachother and none of the movies suck. Hopefully that would lead to a large enough fan-base that an "Age of Apocolypse" movie could be made.

And Pheonix should be left out of X-3. She didn't come back immediately in the comics and shouldn't do so in the movies. Let the team think she's dead for a while, then the return will have a lot more impact.

[Nachokoolaid]

Originally posted by Zipperboy
I think X-3 should have the main characters of X-men and X-2 put into a situation that keeps them out of the movie and force some new, unfamiliar X-men into active duty, but those familiar members should be seen in at least the beginning of the film.

The X-Men franchise has a lot of potential as long as these stories keep leading into eachother and none of the movies suck. Hopefully that would lead to a large enough fan-base that an "Age of Apocolypse" movie could be made.

And Pheonix should be left out of X-3. She didn't come back immediately in the comics and shouldn't do so in the movies. Let the team think she's dead for a while, then the return will have a lot more impact.

This is exactly what I was going to say, so you saved me some time. This is what they should do.

[DareDevil]

Nachokoolaid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man if i could i would pay to have you write the script for x3 !! i loved the gambit/iceman triangle man u know your shit, i would love to sit in a room and talk comic movies with you!!!

very very impressed

[Negrotigre]

Originally posted by NotKeyserSoze
X-Men has so many huge storylines that the only reason the previous 2 movies have been a bit lame is.. well, neither has been able to really grapple with a proper story. The Phoenix saga (very, very dull in my opinion) has recieved such doddering beginnings in X2 that non-hardcore fans like me have very little idea what the Hell is going on. Now, if you made a movie out of the Apocalypse story (instantly allowing Cable, Forge and Bishop)... I mean Jesus, what a friggin' movie!! And who wouldn't want to watch our heroes (and Magneto... McKellen, in the first X-Men at least, got all the best lines, ignoring his camp "We love what you've done with your hair" nonsense in X2) vs Mr Sinister, one of the all time most... well, bloody Sinister comic villains??

I'm well aware that tons of characters have been agonisingly left out... is anyone else itching to see Gambit blow some stuff up, Beast save lives, Archangel turn up and shred something with his wings, or the tons of other "where are they?" great characters to make an appearance? Now, love Collossus' cameo as I did (and I DID), it just wasn't enough. Use the Apocalypse storyline... you'll get shitloads of action, you'll FINALLY be able to dump this slow love-triangle level character focus, and do what we the fans want! Showcase all the mutants' strengths!

Think of it. Apocalypse and some Sentinels (okay, a bit hokey but I can dream) vs ALL the X-Men... Nightcrawler zipping around, Collossus beating the fuck out of some stuff, Wolverine going nuts, Gambit blowing up most of the sentinels, Rogue finally doing her cartoon stuff and damned PUNCHING the bastards...

Alas, as long as X-Men is a "film about the deep personalities of the characters" and not "a big kickass action movie," disappointment will be all we get. And that, friends, is why X2 was a big load of horse manure.

And r.i.p, Lady Deathstrike. We barely knew you.

Look at how much trouble they had working on the CGI for the Hulk, you actually think they could do Apocalypse? They would be a huge undertaking. They didn't want to spend the money to have Beast in the movie, or have Collosus in for more than five minutes. I don't think they'd be interested in making apocalypse or Juggernaut surely for financial reasons.

El Negro

[Shockwave]

Apocalypse would be easy to do. Just get a body builder and add on the cool jet black armor and the face paint, and dub over his voice with a hollow echo sound and u got him nailed. He has the power to control his own molecules so he would be cg at times but hes so radical that it would probably not be hard.


Although the easiest and BEST villian to put into the mix at this stage in the game is the one, the only MR SINISTER. Hell, yeah!

[X-Nightcrawler]

Nightcrawler hopefully, and Famke Janssen in all her glory.

[Nachokoolaid]

Originally posted by DareDevil
Nachokoolaid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man if i could i would pay to have you write the script for x3 !! i loved the gambit/iceman triangle man u know your shit, i would love to sit in a room and talk comic movies with you!!!

very very impressed

Thank you. I aim to please.
I have so many ideas, I'm a 5th year senior english major at college, and I've already won one school award for my writing, so I think I'm at least half way decent. I'd LOVE to get into film after college. I'd love to write and direct movies. That's my real dream, but it seems so impossible. I'm a semester away from becomming a teacher, so if I begin to teach, I know I'll probably never get into film. It's a tough decision because I love helping kids, but I really think I have what it takes to be a great director/screenwriter. And I can't do both. It reminds me of "The Road Not Taken" by Robert Frost. Damn. Ok, I'm rambling, and I didn't really say anything about X-men. Uh, more Collosus in the next one!!! There.

[Tagia_Romero]

The ingredients for a crowd-pleaser "X-Men" style:

A whole cup of Gambit
A scoop of Beast
An a lashing Archangel
A more advanced Rogue
More More More Wolverine
Some Mr. Sinister
Flavouring of Senteinels
A dollop of Red Phoenix/Jean Grey
And a generous helping of Mystique, Nightcrawler, Pyro, Toad, Sabertooth, Magneto, Professor Xavier, Juggernaut, Apocalypse and Shadowcat.
A a side of Iceman, Collosuss and Morlocks
A sprinkle of Lady Deathstrike if greedy
AND INFINATE MONEY, EFFORT, COMMITTMENT, CARE AND FUN.

Bon apetite.

[Thrizzle]

In X3 they should use 2 seperate main villains, and split the X-men to fight each. One group would fight someone like, Omega Red, and the other would fight Magneto and his henchmen. That way you could see the new characters in action, as well as the old.

FYI Collosus has a lot of history with Omega red.

[Thrizzle]

Collosus, Nightcrawler, Storm, and Iceman vs. Omega Red

Wolverine, Cyclops, Gambit, Beast, and the others vs. Magneto (and his magnet force field) Juggernaut, Pyro, Sabretooth, and Toad.

If an X4 is made it would probably include Apocolypse and everything that goes with him.

[jmcpher_007]

Ahh, glad I'm not the only one that wants to see Omega Red! He and Sinister or Apocolypse would be jaw dropping...