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Donnie_Darko
05-07-2003, 10:40 PM
...that computer technology became so prevelant in film.

It started off okay, by being able to clean up images, which is all good. But now you get entire fucking scenes, sequences and fucking movies all CG... it's rediculous!!

I don't see this boon as ANYTHING but a hinderance to film. It adds NOTHING! It just glorifies bad writing and hides terrible acting (see Matrix). I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it... oh yea, did I mention I hate it? :mad:

What got me started on this? Well... this just iced the cake for me...

GARFIELD THE MOVIE!!!! (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0356634)

Scooby Doo was bad enough... but... fuck!! Don't get me wrong, I'm pissed cause I LOVE Garfield!! What's next? A fucking live action Calvin and Hobbes starring Haley Joel Osment with a CGi Hobbes? (I swear, if anyone posts info about that... I'll hunt'm down and killm!!!)

You can't see a "big" movie anymore without some overdone glorified CGi "action" sequence in it. I've been avoiding DareDevil for just that reason. Being a HUGE DD comic fan, I was happy and leary when I heard about the movie. The casting is great, but from the trailers and clips I've seen... eeeek!!! Too much CG "people" in there for me.

I loved Blade 2, but the biggest hit on the movie were the TERRIBLE CGi shots of people. The "ninja in the rafters" scene was TERRIBLE!!! It's like watching a bad video game. Every CG scene looked like a CG scene.

Harken back to Jurassic Park. The FX in the movie were awesome. Groundbreaking and very life like. Now, fastforward 8 years to JP3... the FX were TERRIBLE (damn I like that word today) It's just a simple case of the industry getting complacent. Bullshit. What happened to PROGRESS?

Oh well, it's not like Hollywood gives a shit about anything more than your $10-13 anyway... assholes.

Okay... I'm done... for now.

bowieee
05-07-2003, 10:49 PM
I'm really looking foward to the Garfield movie. I was a huge Garfield fanatic as a kid and I think they might be able to pull this off.

Sigur509
05-07-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by bowieee
I'm really looking foward to the Garfield movie. I was a huge Garfield fanatic as a kid and I think they might be able to pull this off.

I agree, I am a huge fan. But Live-Action. C'mon, that will more than likely suck ass. But I'm still going to see it.

electriclite
05-07-2003, 11:05 PM
I'm sorry but I can't see anything positive about the Garfield movie if all it has to flaunt is CGI. If script report happens to give teh script an A+ or something more then then just passing then maybe I'll look forward to it. But don't just throw CGI at a project and think it'll make up for everything else that is lacking.

CGI is great and all, but its a tool like anything else and should be treated as such, not like a magic bullet.

On a related note, my history of animation teacher informed me that he had gotten news from a friend working at Disney, that the company is going full steam ahead with computer animated films.... which means I have to pad my traditional animation education with computer animation. This of course was my plan all along, but Disney seems to want people who have good Illustration skills, which I have, and then train them in animation later. Also traditional animators are very well valued over computer animators, because some computer animators can't actually draw while many trad. anim. can work a computer.

Could Be Worse
05-07-2003, 11:14 PM
What I hate the most is how directors *Cough Lucas Cough*are going back and adding CGI images that do not need to be in there. For instance when the creatures are searching for the droids, the newly added material looks like shit. Really crappy CGI, looked better before.

The Postmaster General
05-07-2003, 11:37 PM
Yeah, I'm waiting for this CGI thing to tone down a notch. It's great, and all, but I think it's holding back the filmmaking process at the moment. The bad thing about the Garfield movie is that it's ripping off a concept that is getting really old.




Originally posted by electriclite
Also traditional animators are very well valued over computer animators, because some computer animators can't actually draw while many trad. anim. can work a computer.


And they are making so many new tools where you can sketch directly onto the computer with little interaction with the actual computer. (I usually know the names for these things)

BorderEevilIII
05-08-2003, 01:37 AM
When I heard that they were making a movie on the Garfield, I thought "Only Now They Decided?" I just hope that Garfield sounds just like the orignal voice god bless his soul cause hes no longer w/ us and have the loveable Odie & Nermal getting on Garfield's nerves. They better have the Garfield sippin on those cups of coffee & making a play for those trays of lasagnas. ;)

Indiana Sev
05-08-2003, 03:32 AM
I used to love the Garfield cartoons on T.V. when I was a kid. I hope they don't ruin those memories like they did with The Grinch and Scooby-Doo (didn't see either and never will, the trailers were enough to show me how bad they were).

quoth_the_raven
05-08-2003, 04:34 AM
i've always thought CGI should be the cream that is added to the cake. something to spruce it up and to be used only where it is neccessary....i do agree it is far to common right now, and a lot of movies seem to be too centered around its use. but sometimes i guess it is the only way to get things done ie. The Hulk.

Moviefan1234
05-08-2003, 06:33 AM
I agree with QTR. I think CGI really adds to movies and makes them better. Movies wouldn't look as good without them.

electriclite
05-08-2003, 06:49 AM
Let's jog people's memories a bit: Remember the "Scorpion King" near the end of The Mummy Returns? or the The Haunting?

Moviefan1234
05-08-2003, 09:39 AM
I really liked "The Mummy Returns," sure his face looked video gamelike at the end, but it was still a solid and fun film.

quoth_the_raven
05-08-2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Moviefan1234
I agree with QTR. I think CGI really adds to movies and makes them better. Movies wouldn't look as good without them.


yes but my point is that it should only be used sparingly, when it 100% neccessary.
hell look at die another die and the parasurfing scene. something we have termed nintendo bond. that looked awful. they could have doen a different stunt, as they have been for years that would still have looked cool. but they used cgi and it looked shit.

cgi is fine when its needed. but too much feels little like overkill.