We are all obsessed with movies...why aren't those in Hollywood?

[rushmore beauty]

We all love movies. That's a plain and simple, well-known fact on this site. We come together from around the globe and talk about what we love (and hate) in the film industry. Some of us have like 700 posts and we've been a member on this site for only like 6 months. I have around 950 posts and I've been a member since October. I got half of those posts thoigh at school, during Computer class.

Now, people in Hollywood and involved in the movies. They love them enough to pour their hearts and souls into these movies that may very well flop, ut they do it anyways. Crispin Glover just gave us a beautiful performance in Willard, but the film ombed at the box office. Tim Burton loves movies enough crank out these wonderfully quirky films every 3 or 4 years. But he isn't as into movies as much as some of us are. He didn't see ID4 until a few years after it was on video and he watched it on TV. I know this not because I research all of my favorite directors and actors on the internet for hours, but because I love reading and I own 2 Tim Burton biography-type books.

My point is, do we maybe take our love of movies one step too far? I am sorry if any of you schmoes were offended by this post, but it was just a thought that maybe we should doing more with our lives than watching and talking movies. Film is my passion and I know for a fact that I will one day get a job involved with film and Hollywood. I love anything to do with the fine arts and I just hope that I'll get into film as a career.

[chinton]

Rushmore Beauty


I can see your point but then again I kind of have to disagree with you. Technichally we could all be doing something more important or whatever, but some of us (like me) only have movies to support them.


Persoanlly for me it is not really a matter of loving movies. It is an obsession. I honestly cant think of myself doing something other than film. Im not being fascious here. I mean I am literally incapable of thinking doing anything outside of film. I know this may not be the healthies thing, but fiulm is not film for me. Movies are life. Great movies are truth.

Sure I could be saving the world, but why do that when i have a copy of Magnolia handy.

[TATU]

I have a "real" life. Joblo's is just a hobby for me. I'm not obsessed with movies at all, I just like them and have my own opinions that I like to express.

[countchocula]

This doesn’t seem like a rant per se, but it's an intelligent post nonetheless. You have a valid point, and I'll often watch the daily news thinking to myself, "And I was upset because my favorite movie is being remade?," but it is something that I take seriously. A passion for film is in my blood and there's nothing that I can do about it. That's not to say that it's the only thing I concern myself with, but over the last few years, films (horror films, in particular) have been deeply woven into my fiber. Hollywood personalities are just as "into" movies as we are, but they have different priorities and interests when it comes to padding their collections. I'm assuming that Burton just wasn't adamant about placing Independence Day on his must-see list. I can't blame him.

[James Logan]

Just wanted to say:

Best topic title I've read in a while. :)

[The Postmaster General]

Hmmm....

Wasn't Tim Burton an admited film geek who watched lots of shit like Ed Wood movies?

I mean, don't get me wrong, but surely someone, before Burton was Burton, thought.... "Ugh! Why they hell doesn't he make a movie instead of wasting his time watching those crappy movies?"


I don't think something as arbitrary as the amount of time you spend on Joblo.com should decide how motivated you are to make movies.

[rushmore beauty]

Originally posted by chinton
Rushmore Beauty


I can see your point but then again I kind of have to disagree with you. Technichally we could all be doing something more important or whatever, but some of us (like me) only have movies to support them.


Persoanlly for me it is not really a matter of loving movies. It is an obsession. I honestly cant think of myself doing something other than film. Im not being fascious here. I mean I am literally incapable of thinking doing anything outside of film. I know this may not be the healthies thing, but fiulm is not film for me. Movies are life. Great movies are truth.

Sure I could be saving the world, but why do that when i have a copy of Magnolia handy.

I am in the same boat...I can't picture myself doing anything else.

[rushmore beauty]

Originally posted by countchocula
This doesn’t seem like a rant per se, but it's an intelligent post nonetheless. You have a valid point, and I'll often watch the daily news thinking to myself, "And I was upset because my favorite movie is being remade?," but it is something that I take seriously. A passion for film is in my blood and there's nothing that I can do about it. That's not to say that it's the only thing I concern myself with, but over the last few years, films (horror films, in particular) have been deeply woven into my fiber. Hollywood personalities are just as "into" movies as we are, but they have different priorities and interests when it comes to padding their collections. I'm assuming that Burton just wasn't adamant about placing Independence Day on his must-see list. I can't blame him.

And I don't blame him for not having !D4 on his "must-see" list either.

[Neesh]

I would say that at an idiosyncratic film maker like Tim Burton not rushing out to see ID4 is a bad example of all people in Hollywood not being as big of a movie fan as a typical schmoe.
More often than not, when I've seen, or read an interview of a director or actor talking about movies in general, I've been surprised at how much they know, and how much they love the whole art of movie making.

[Kastman]

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[MallratsJunkie]

Originally posted by rushmore beauty
We all love movies. That's a plain and simple, well-known fact on this site. We come together from around the globe and talk about what we love (and hate) in the film industry. Some of us have like 700 posts and we've been a member on this site for only like 6 months. I have around 950 posts and I've been a member since October. I got half of those posts thoigh at school, during Computer class.

Now, people in Hollywood and involved in the movies. They love them enough to pour their hearts and souls into these movies that may very well flop, ut they do it anyways. Crispin Glover just gave us a beautiful performance in Willard, but the film ombed at the box office. Tim Burton loves movies enough crank out these wonderfully quirky films every 3 or 4 years. But he isn't as into movies as much as some of us are. He didn't see ID4 until a few years after it was on video and he watched it on TV. I know this not because I research all of my favorite directors and actors on the internet for hours, but because I love reading and I own 2 Tim Burton biography-type books.

My point is, do we maybe take our love of movies one step too far? I am sorry if any of you schmoes were offended by this post, but it was just a thought that maybe we should doing more with our lives than watching and talking movies. Film is my passion and I know for a fact that I will one day get a job involved with film and Hollywood. I love anything to do with the fine arts and I just hope that I'll get into film as a career.

Do me a favor and seriously watch out for how many times you appoligize for your thoughts. There's no need to appoligize for anything you said. Its not like you singled one board member out or anything, you were just making a statement. "You do not have the right to not be offended". I can't stand reading something well written only for it to be dismissed w/ an appoligy.

Anyway... I know what you're talking about. I wonder if actors sit around and watch their own movies. That's gotta be a weird concept. Somehow I imagine pauly shore sitting around his living room with a beer watching bio-dome though.

I guess a lot of these people aren't really "into" movies as a hobby because they have better things to do. Its probably that simple. They have the money, time, and resources to do just about anything. So if you had the same, would you still watch movies? And don't say you'd make them, because they already do :)

[Doc Holliday]

Listen, there is no need to apologize to any of us for what you said in your post. It was well stated, and I am sure heart felt when you wrote it.

One thing you, and probably all of us, need to understand is this, not everyone can love things the same way you, or us schmoes do. I have two passions outside my family....movies and sports. I can tell you there are many football players and baseball players who don't love the sports as much as I do. they don't know the history, or the tradition. They don't care about the fans or the game. The same more then likely goes for movies. Don't get upset about that.

Don't waste your time being pissed that Hollywood isn't as geeked about movies as you are. You have a passion, a strong one. Not many people can say they have a passion about anything. You do...keep it alive and not fret over those who don't have it the same way you do.

[rushmore beauty]

Okay, okay...I'll stop apologizing...I just didn't want to offend/piss anyone off.
And Doc, I agree with everything you said.
And everyone, yes, Tim Burton may have been a bad example, but it got the message across.

[this one dude]

actually, it might be nice if the hollywood head honchos had the same passion for film that the members of this board have. maybe then we wouldnt have all of this commercial, glossy, cliche garbage shoved down our throats.

[Ronaldinho]

I love this.

The reason why Hollywood generally produces the stuff it does is because that's what you people go see.

I'm sure that plenty of people on this board were willing to stand in line to see X2, or will be doing so to see Matrix:Reloaded.

But how many of you have seen Raising Victor Vargas. How many have seen The Shape of Things? or The Dancer Upstairs?

(When I saw Vargas in the theater, there were five other people there, and it's easily the best film I've seen this year).

If you want Hollywood to make better movies, well, you can start by supporting them yourself, with your dollars. Instead of rushing out to see "Daredevil" or "X2" on opening weekend, look a little harder and see something a little better.

If you don't, you've only yourself to blame.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Ronaldinho
I love this.

The reason why Hollywood generally produces the stuff it does is because that's what you people go see.

I'm sure that plenty of people on this board were willing to stand in line to see X2, or will be doing so to see Matrix:Reloaded.

But how many of you have seen Raising Victor Vargas. How many have seen The Shape of Things? or The Dancer Upstairs?

(When I saw Vargas in the theater, there were five other people there, and it's easily the best film I've seen this year).

If you want Hollywood to make better movies, well, you can start by supporting them yourself, with your dollars. Instead of rushing out to see "Daredevil" or "X2" on opening weekend, look a little harder and see something a little better.

If you don't, you've only yourself to blame.

I want to see Raising Victor Vargas and I REALLY want to see The Dancer Upstairs. The problem is I would have to travel by train to the city nearby in order to be able to see them and I'm not willing to pay an extra $10 on top of the movie tickets just to see a movie. So my only alternative is to wait for it on DVD.

[rushmore beauty]

iginally posted by Ronaldinho [/i]
I love this.

The reason why Hollywood generally produces the stuff it does is because that's what you people go see.

I'm sure that plenty of people on this board were willing to stand in line to see X2, or will be doing so to see Matrix:Reloaded.

But how many of you have seen Raising Victor Vargas. How many have seen The Shape of Things? or The Dancer Upstairs?

(When I saw Vargas in the theater, there were five other people there, and it's easily the best film I've seen this year).

If you want Hollywood to make better movies, well, you can start by supporting them yourself, with your dollars. Instead of rushing out to see "Daredevil" or "X2" on opening weekend, look a little harder and see something a little better.

If you don't, you've only yourself to blame. [/QUOTE]

I've seen Daredevil, X2 and some other "big" movies this year, but the best of 2003 (IMO, so far) is either Willard or Bend it Like Beckham. I'm expecting The Matrix to be a fun ride, but I'm not like rabidly awaiting Neo vs. Agent Smith....it's all Ewan McGregor & Burton and Tarantino & Uma for me.

[maria_901]

I don´t think that everyone involved in the movie business has to watch every movie. Maybe Tim Burton just thought that ID4 was crap and didn´t want to watch it.
I also want to make movies but I don´t have to watch every stupid movie Hollywood produces.

[rushmore beauty]

Originally posted by maria_901
I don´t think that everyone involved in the movie business has to watch every movie. Maybe Tim Burton just thought that ID4 was crap and didn´t want to watch it.
I also want to make movies but I don´t have to watch every stupid movie Hollywood produces.

Fully agreed...I still haven't seen The Fast and the Furious, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, American Pie, Scary Movie, Catch Me If You Can or xXx.