Jaws the revenge bashing here!

[psycho path]

Now besides the ending and a few phony parts(When the shark is chewing the boat,some boring directing)I actually like this film. I will break it down in pro's and con's.

Pro's: The characters. They were actually developed quite nicely,and the actors do a good job portraying them.
The banana boat scene was cool too. And I like the music score,not quite atmospheric,but pretty menacing. And the shark sometimes looked convincing. Yes,sometimes I said. And the location was breathtaking to look at. Not to mention an opening which scared the hell outta me on my 61 inch t.v.(Im such a showoff,lol),and the shark chasing Michael through the boat.

Con's: The shark. Like I said it looked convincing sometimes,but on a whole could have been much better looking,even for 1987. Kinda looked scary with those big gums though...But my biggest gripe is the ending which ruined the whole movie. How in fuck did that thing explode by getting poked with a stick? I know theres an alternate ending which was better(It was impaled on a harpoon and started to die,sinking the boat),but they could have thought something better then that up! And the flashbacks of events Ellen did not see. The first flashback was kinda touching when they were at the funeral,but in the ending,she remembers stuff she didnt see! And the directing was point and shoot,kinda boring.

But,like I said,I liked it,so let the bashing begin!

[ERIN_LoJ]

Id have to disagree about the characters. I found them rather dull, not "fleshed out". I thought the theme of the movie was silly - a shark on revenge, the thoughts of revenge in this family goes through the sharks bloodline? WTF?

But I do agree it had promising parts. Like the shark scene at the beginning, very creepy and well done. The raft scene with all the kids. The underwater chase scenes. But other than that I found it very dull.

But to each their own....now if you came back saying you LOVED part THREE, then we'd have problems!http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/sarge/Guillotine_anim.gif

[psycho path]

Dont worry,part 3 is on my alltime hatelist! Now that I think of it,the characters are somewhat boring at times...

[Cronos]

Haha, god this films a pile of shite, as is part 2 and you guessed it part 3, although i enjoyed 3 except when the thingy starts to sort of sink and whenever the sharks on screen

[tightywhitey411]

i think i might like jaws 3 a bit more with a pair of 3d glasses... how the film was originally meant to be seen

[Duke Nukem]

Psycho Path, you are not alone. I first saw "Jaws: The Revenge" on TV years ago and hated it. And then a little while ago, after reading Arrows review of it so many times and laughing my ass off (which in turn, inspired me to read Roger Ebert's ZERO star review of it), I felt inspired to give the movie another try, feeling it was the one Jaws movie I wasn't truly familiar with.

I ended up enjoying it, surprisingly. As you said, the actors did well and there was some good suspense and action. Lorraine Gary was very good as the grieving mother, Lance Guest was pretty good as the sad, but not so-weary-of-the-water son, and Michael Caine did good as always. They handled the tragedy of they younger son's death really well and realistically. What I really like was when the older son's daughter mimiced him (a la Sheriff Brody and son in original). It was touching and I like to think that they redid it to show just to show that some things run in the family.

Now, I know what a lot of you are going to say: that despite a good cast, they can be drowned by the hilariously fake-looking shark (!) and his revenge...but I was able to digest that, and I like to think that the shark was there to remind us that this story of tragedy was only a movie. The fact that the shark wanted revenge just didn't bother me. This was only a movie after all. Of course, the shark was hilariously fake-looking (!), but even it had its moments. The best thing about the hilariously fake-looking shark (!) is that the actors were able work around it with a straight face, especially when (WARNING: SPOILER AHEAD!!) Michael Caine went "Oh, shit!" when the (here I go again) hilariously fake-looking shark (!) came out of the water to attack him on his crashed plane!

Now, there are other flaws in the movie, mainly the finale. First of all, (WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD), Michael crashes his plane into the water to help Mrs. Brody. Well, others think it is stupid; I didn't mind it. It was kind of cool. Then, Michael miraculously survives the sharks "revenge" when it attacks his crashed plane. That I didn't mind, especially since I really like Michael Caine as an actor. But, Michael Caine is not wet at all when he supposedly arises from the water and climbs onto the boat! What, Michael Caine was afraid to get a little wet? It's obvious that between cuts Michael got back onto the boat and waited at the side, but oh well, I'm not going to cry about it. Then, the shark is killed in an absolutely ridiculous fashion! But, it doesn't stop there. Mario Van Peebles miraculously survives the shark as well...but, from what they showed of the attack, it didn't look like he was suriously injured. It's also one of two endings: one of which he survives; the other in which he doesn't. Oh well, boo hoo!

END OF SPOILERS!!

As for the flashbacks that Mrs. Brody shouldn't be remembering, I like to look at this way: She says at one point in the film that she knew how her husband and her son mimic eachother with their children, so at one random moment (at the funeral, I think), she remembers such a moment that I think is really meant for the audience, all in order to give us an idea how she feels. I think all the flashbacks are meant to do that.

Anyway, I generally enjoyed this movie, more than a lot of people do. It had's it flaws, but that's why I'm only rating it marginally, although it did have its moments, more than just a few.

My rating of this and the whole series:

Jaws - 4/4
Jaws 2 - 2.5/4
Jaws III - 2.5/4
Jaws: The Revenge - 2.5/4

[Lord Crumb]

Moving over to PAST...

[ScaryFreak1827]

I thought Ellen Brody had seen the events shown in the flashback like the funeral and the scene with her husband and son at the dinner table (I haven't seen it in a while but I may be mistaken.) All together I didn't think the fourth Jaws was THAT bad! I admit it was pretty cheesy and fake at parts but it was somewhat enjoyable compared to some of the creature attack movies we see today (Shark Attack.)

[JasonConq]

Its a real bullshit movie like Jaws 3, but its entertaining for me and I don't mind watching it once a year or so.

Bad but entertaining.

[deadeye]

This movie bugged the shit out of me because Chief Brody's sons went against the personalities that were formed in the previous movies. I just don't believe Sean Brody would, after a childhood traumatizing attack in Jaws 2 and after choosing a college out west and quite plainly stating fear of the water in Jaws 3, go back and work on the island only to be killed in a boat. And the older son whose name escapes me--after seeing Dennis Quaid in Jaws 3, I can't accept, once again, a change in character that has been developed from the beginning. I don't know what the revenge was shooting for--box office take maybe--but it sure wasn't continuity or even just a plain good unrelated shark story.

[Tyler Durden10]

Yeah, I would be pretty traumatized after one shark attack. Yet, these guys have had it happen to them 3 times already. After the first one, I would have been like "fuck the ocean" and I'd move to North Dakota or something. That's why stupidity literally kills people.

[Duke Nukem]

I don't think that "Jaws The Revenge" refers to "Jaws III" at all. I think it kind of discards it. But, the movie refers to Sheriff Brody, so it definately acknowledges the first two films. In both of those films, there was a sign that the older son/Marine Biologist of Jaws' "revenge" was slacking/ignorant (I'm looking for the right word) when it came to going in the water, despite his father's shark adventures. In the first film, he got a boat on his birthday, and wanted to sit on it as it was tied up near the dock. The father, having been through some shark trouble already told him to get off. the mother wasn't so worrisome though until she the picture of a shark ramming through a boat in the shark book. Of course, in the sequel, he goes out to sea with his friends going against his fathers orders and especially despite the shark incidents he knew of with his father. It shows that he wasn't so afraid of the water. Heck, it even shows in "Jaws III" that he was always more down with water (despite sharks) when he tells about how his brother was afraid to swim.

[belial1134]

Let's not forget than many surfers/divers who are attacked for real still go back to the ocean. Granted, not every shark attack victim returns to the water, but you often hear about some which do. Perhaps he was too in love with the ocean to give it up, despite the family's history with sharks.

Just a theory.
-Belial.

[Mr. Movie Man]

Are you also a member of the Jaws forum at www.jawsmovie.com Psycho Path? Anyhoo, yeah this movie isn't great, but it has its moments. The music is eerie, the acting from most of the cast was good, and the beginning was creepy. I also liked the new way in which the shark came out of the water, because it was a weird kind of slow motion. Most of the cinematography was eh, but some of the scenes were framed in such a way, that it disturbs me when I watch it. On the topic of this, I recently had a very strange dream the other night. The dream took place after Jaws the Revenge, and Michael Brody(Lance Guest) and his mother Ellen(Lorraine Gary) were standing on a ferry. It was almost as if I was the camera, and I was right infront of them, but they couldn't see me, and I couldn't see what they were looking down at because my view was that of a framed shot. Does that make sense? Anyway, they both looked sad, and then my head acted like a camera pedestal and began to tilt down. Michael and Ellen were looking down at something BIG, with a large white sheet wrapped around it. My head/camera panned to the left, and that's when I saw the nose of the shark. Apparently the ending where the shark was impaled was the real ending, but that the shark was found in the water and dragged out by coast guards. But then for some reason, the shark was ordered to be thrown back into the water, even though it was dead. Michael and Ellen returned from the ferry ride after dsposing of the "Bruce", and began to get on with their lives again, but then I/the camera, blacked out, and when I came to, all I could see was Ellen Brody drinking a beverage at a party. Next thing I know, I've got a close up of her looking right at me/the camera. Ellen starts to have kind of a "Spidey Sense" thing going on, and everything around her becomes dark blue, green, and black. Jaws The Revenge music kicks up, and she goes into a trance and can't hear anything. She senses something wrong and We know that the nightmare isn't quite over yet. Strange huh? Bring on Jaws 5!

[JurassicMik]

I haven't gotten around to seeing Jaws 4 yet, but since I sat through Shark Attack 3 maybe this one won't seem so bad.

On a side note, I watched Jaws 2 last night and it was pretty good. Is Sheriff Brody dead in part 4 or something?

[Duke Nukem]

Yeah, in "Jaws: The Revenge," we learn that Sheriff Brody had a heart attack.

[KillerKlown]

Originally posted by tightywhitey411
i think i might like jaws 3 a bit more with a pair of 3d glasses... how the film was originally meant to be seen



Nope, I saw it in 3D when I was a kid and it was still shite.

[DoubleDown11]

Yeah.....yeah...blah.blah..blah.....
We all know 'Jaws 2' was the WORST SEQUEL EVER in a horror series. FUCK JAWS 2. Kudos to me on my 100th post.
2xDown

[KillerKlown]

Originally posted by DoubleDown11
We all know 'Jaws 2' was the WORST SEQUEL EVER in a horror series.


Hmmmm....I beg to differ, by naming a few stinkers which are WORSE than Jaws 2, IMO:

Halloween 5
Alien Resurrection
Friday the 13th Part 8
Wishmaster 3
Scream 2 & 3

[Mr. Movie Man]

I really would love it if a special edition Jaws The Revenge dvd was released. I doubt this would happen, and I don't think anyone really cares enough to do it, but it would be great to have a behind the scenes featurete for this movie. It could show how the shark was constructed, and how the story came to life from script to screen. Cast interviews, deleted scenes, a director's cut, and behind the scene footage. Also, some trailers would be cool, and maybe some old tv spots. What do you all think????

[The Claw]

I'm not too big on the Jaws movies but this was awful. I didnt care for 3 at all. I cant remember 2 and I dont think I liked the first when I saw it as a kid (although i'm gonna give it another shot)

[ERIN_LoJ]

Am I the only one who thought 2 was GOOD?

[deadeye]

I liked 2 too. You are not alone Erin

[Duke Nukem]

I also liked "Jaws 2." It was a pretty good sequel that stuck with the storyline and didn't do anything farfetched.

[belial1134]

I enjoyed 2 as well, can't think of any major complaints about that one. I didn't mind the 3rd one either (I could sit thru it), but the 4th was pretty terrible, I was rooting for the Shark.
-Belial.

[venkman]

I look at Jaws4 as a fuckin comedy theres no other way to to look at it. A shark that actually has a vendetta against a family 4 blowin mom an dad up just says it all. It even follows them to the bahamas, does it have a tracking device or something? Ketamine must of been part of the scriptwriters diet that year. what an insult to the brilliant original.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Although I enjoyed part 2 as said above, there were 2 problems with it.

One was that godawful girl screaming. Sure, if its done right with a purpose its good for the film like TCM but this one just got on my NERVES. She just kept screaming and screaming..wasn't really good at it either :eek:

The second was the flimsy boats at the end. Do boats like this actually exist?? They looked like they could have been made out of paper.

[psycho path]

Check out this pic from the better ending of J4. Awesome effect I think,I dont know why it was reshot.

[psycho path]

Another pic from the other ending.

[Tyler Durden10]

I actually have the book for Jaws The Revenge, and it includes a subplot of the Brody family having a voodoo curse on them that deals with sharks. So a shark actually being in the Bahamas kinda makes sense. But they clearly didn't include that in the movie...

[ICP RULZ]

Part 2 kicks ass. I also thought Part 3 kicks ass. I don't care for Part 4 much although it has been a while since I've seen it

Peace,
Matt

[captainjesus]

HAHAHA, i bought Jaws 4 on DVD! dont worry though guys, it was only $5. i watch it every once in a while when i just wanna sit back and watch a shitty (very shitty) horror movie.

and psycho path:
where did you find those pics from? they looked pretty good.

oh, and i almost forgot the worst part of the movie: THE SHARK STANDING UPRIGHT AND ROARING!!! LMFOA! that is sooo classic!

[Mr. Movie Man]

Actually, I've said this before and I'll say it again. Great Whites ARE able to let out a little snorting growl. I saw it on The Discovery Channel a few years ago, and Peter Benchley was even on the show. He was out in Austrailia filming sharks, and a big Great White came out of the water and put its snout against their boat. Crazy Peter Benchley put out his hand and was petting the shark on its noise, and that's when the shark let out a snorting and growling sound. Peter was also talking about JAWS on one of the behind the scenes shows on TV, and he mentioned how you would know you're in trouble when the shark starts to let out a little roar of a lion, and when his eyes go back into its head. I think that the roaring in Jaws The Revenge was a little exagerated for shock value, but it's not uncommon for them to roar from time to time.

[psycho path]

I got the pics from a site named The Bruce Sharkives. Pretty good site. And personally,I think the roar that shark made was awesome! Dont know why. I have a question. Was the shark in this movie really 25 feet? Cuz in Universal Florida(Or where ever),it looked smaller...

[Mr. Movie Man]

you are right! The model at Universal Studios in Florida doesn't look like it's twenty five feet in length. It looks about ten feet shorter. Weird indeed. It would be cool to buy that model from Universal, and then to go out and make your own shark movie. When you are done, you could compare the shark's performance from your movie and Jaws The Revenge.

[CarrieCarrie]

I'm a minority I think, I liked all 4 Jaws movies. Jaws and Jaws 2 were great movies, Jaws 3D has its moments that make the film enjoyable and Jaws the Revenge I think I like it only because I have a soft spot in my heart for the series. With the exception of a couple of scenes it is a pretty dull film but watchable.

[Duke Nukem]

CarrieCarrie, you are part of a minority, but I'm part of it too. I liked all the "Jaws" movies and I'm not ashamed to say it. The first is very good and a classic. The second is a worthy follow-up. The third is always being called "boring," but this films pace isn't any better or worse than most movies and it had more than its share of moments. The fourth had an hilariously fake-looking shark, but that didn't take away the credibility of the good actors and their moments on land; and there were some good action and suspense.

My ratings for the "Jaws" series:
Jaws - **** out of 4
Jaws 2 - **1/2 out of 4
Jaws III - **1/2 out of 4
Jaws: The Revenge - **1/2 out of 4
(They basically descend as they go, but none of them are bad)

[venkman]

Even though we've been giving it a good bashing, you know that whether it's part 4, 3,or 2 you will watch it when there is jack shit
else on other channels late at night. They do entertain and have some funny bits in them.

Out of all of the sequels what bit do you find the most amusing?

I think the bit in 3 were bruce smashes through the glass at the end is piss funny, it looks so crap it's unbelievable. Also part 3 gave us an introduction to bruce's gums!

[Elgyn]

Originally posted by venkman


Out of all of the sequels what bit do you find the most amusing?

I think the bit in 3 were bruce smashes through the glass at the end is piss funny, it looks so crap it's unbelievable.


LOL, yeah the shark "swims" (motionless) toward the big window, and the people are all just standing there like, "Oh no, here he comes"!
And they never even show what happens to Louis Gossett Jr. or the other black guy with the afro.

My favorite "goofy part" is the very beginning of Part 3 where Jaws kills a fish, and the fish`s head floats menacingly towards the camera.

[psycho path]

Originally posted by Mr. Movie Man
you are right! The model at Universal Studios in Florida doesn't look like it's twenty five feet in length. It looks about ten feet shorter. Weird indeed. It would be cool to buy that model from Universal, and then to go out and make your own shark movie. When you are done, you could compare the shark's performance from your movie and Jaws The Revenge.

I was actually thinking of that last year,sinse I live in front of a lake. I'd just put it under the water,get my friends there so they can jump underwater,and shit thereselves when they see it. But alas,it would probably cost way too much,and its missing alot of teeth. Heres some pics of it sitting in the Universal backlot.

http://www.jawsmovie.com/bin/article.asp?id=64&fan=1

[venkman]

Ahhh he looks so cute with his peggies missing, bless him.

[ERIN_LoJ]

Oh, so that's who you guys were speaking of! Yes, I've had my picture taken with him also, I live about 45 minutes away from Universal. He looks so adorable in those pictures! (clears throat) Anyway...

[psycho path]

LOL. Anybody notice how wierd the sharks skin looks in those pics? It looked okay in the movie,but on the pics the skin looks like concrete! I wonder how they did the mini-sub scene with Michael if the shark they used was only about 16 feet...Maybe a miniature mini(he,he)sub? This flick is coming out on DVD again on June 3rd from Universal,hopefully with the good ending intact...

[robk]

Yes, Jaws: The Revenge was dumb. I'm just glad that Sir Michael Caine was able to continue acting after this fiasco. I'm also glad that Spielberg didn't direct this mess or any of the Jaws sequels, simply because those 3 films REALLY stretched the believablity factor too far.

[Tony Montana 83]

Worst of all 4! Only ones worth watching is 1 + 2

Rest = Joke

[Frank the Tank]

It was totally lame and fake but I laughed at some of the parts so it wasn't too bad.