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Mark
08-15-2001, 08:07 PM
On January 15, a special 3disc R-rated director's cut of Pearl Harbor will be released. It will contain much more graphic violence than the theaterical cut, more profanity, several scenes of extreme gore like a man getting cut in half, and a more steamy sex scene featureing brief nudity.

It wll also cut out some of the romance scenes focus more the friendship of Rafe and Danny as well as the true history and the horror of the event. This is supposedly the film Michael Bay wanted to release to begin with, and he never was happy with the romantic family friendly version in the theaters. The special R cut is being considerd for a special release in theaters on December, 7.

yes scorchlord I know you hate the film. But feel free to remind me.

JenDan05
08-15-2001, 08:19 PM
Are you for serious????

Movieguy16
08-15-2001, 09:31 PM
Im gonna have to buy both versions...the one that comes out on Dec. 4th...and The Director's cut one...Its actually good because thats around the time im actually getting a sweet widescreen tv to show off(FINALLY!!). Not too bad of a movie to test my audio and soon to be better video

Mark
08-15-2001, 09:34 PM
Completely serious it was in the USA Today newspaper. If you don't believe me check out the DiditalBits.com or the Home Theater Fourm for more details. It is the real deal. A SE of the theatrical cut will be released on December 4th with a full blown Vista Series 3disc set in January featureing the director's cut. The DC will be spread over 2 discs with a scored intermission. It's all true.

dh1989
08-16-2001, 09:31 AM
According to http://www.thedigitalbits.com/ the "Pearl Harbor" directors cut will have only 5 minutes of extra footage and the addition of a couple of featurettes,montage of Super 8 footage,etc. I plan to buy the December 4th edition. I don't want to pay a extra 10 dollars for 5 minutes of footage and couple of extras.

Mark
08-16-2001, 01:38 PM
Well the official press release states that the running times are tenative, so we don't know for sure how much longer it'll be. But the diffrence of running times won't matter that much any way because they are going to CUT OUT entire scenes form the theatrical cut and replace them with R-rated alteratives that were filmed at the same time. Plus they said the romance aspect of the film will be shortend and downplayed in the DC in addition to Saving Private Ryan style battle scenes.

dh1989
08-16-2001, 03:16 PM
The romance was the best part! This director's cut is sounding worse and worse to me.

bskutle
08-16-2001, 04:50 PM
Unless Hans Zimmer does audio commentary on the film, I can live without either one; I'd probably rent the DC just to see it, but I wasn't a big enough fan of the film to plop down for a 3-disc set, director's cut or not. And hey, has it occured to anyone at Buena Vista to just say f-it and put BOTH cuts in the same set a la the 3-disc "Brazil" Criterion set? Oh yeah, they're more into money grubbing than Criterion is.

Mark
08-16-2001, 05:30 PM
They are releaseing the 2 diffrent versions seperately because of the content in the DC, it is supposed to now contain alot of profanity, more sex, some nudity, and extreme graphic gore. Bay himself said it will contain a scene where a guy gets cut in half by 50mm rounds. Would you release Hook and Saving Private Ryan together. Especialy now with people like Liberman trying to bring criminal action against Hollywood. Disney didn't have any other choice than to release them seperately. Besides the DC will probably be released to theaters the same week the PG-13 cut comes to video.

bskutle
08-16-2001, 06:15 PM
True (although the "Hook" and "SPR" analogy is- sorry- a bit lame; except for Spielberg & Williams, they're not the same type of film. PG-13 or R, "Pearl Harbor" is still a war film). Still, I stand by my statement.

Also, while the financial risk would have been greater than for the PG-13 film, why couldn't they gamble it on an R in the first place. "Saving Private Ryan" was a hard R and made $480 million worldwide, with $216 million in the US (more- by the way- than a PG-13 "Pearl Harbor" did by $20m). Sure, one could credit that to Spielberg, but Bay and Bruckheimer have clout to rival Spielberg's (they got the $135m budget greenlight for crying out loud), not to mention name recognition. My point? The film should never have been PG-13 to begin with. Not only is Disney pandering to the audience with the rating, but insulting them as well; the idea that the audience couldn't handle an R-rated film. Bottom line- they didn't care about the film as art until critics trashed it and audiences were mixed, so out comes the R-rated film it should have been to begin with. With the PG-13 version, Disney just wanted a "Titanic"-like hit.

Scorchlord
08-17-2001, 10:09 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark:


yes scorchlord I know you hate the film. But feel free to remind me.</font>

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I'm flattered you remember.

inglourious basterd
08-19-2001, 06:05 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark:
Well the official press release states that the running times are tenative, so we don't know for sure how much longer it'll be. But the diffrence of running times won't matter that much any way because they are going to CUT OUT entire scenes form the theatrical cut and replace them with R-rated alteratives that were filmed at the same time. Plus they said the romance aspect of the film will be shortend and downplayed in the DC in addition to Saving Private Ryan style battle scenes. </font>


The romance story was actually the entire movie. The war scenes within the movie was just a subplot within the film (IMO). To take out the story, and add more gore sounds a little idiotic to me...

However, it seems like something Bay would do.

TeRmInAl_AD
08-20-2001, 11:31 PM
No no let me correct u it's on December 4 as it was said on ET

Mark
08-21-2001, 02:44 PM
Actually the 2 disc special edition of the PG-13 cut will be out on the 4th. The 3 disc Vista version with the R-rated director's cut will be released on DVD Jan 15.