Larry Wachowski splits from his wife - sordid details involved!

[Nate6]

Jeez, this is more interesting than The Matrix! Weird, weird story, wonder if it's all true? Entertaining, to say the least...


From the IMDb (http://www.imdb.com) :

'Matrix' Director's Dominatrix Lover?
Publicity-shy The Matrix Reloaded director Larry Wachowski left his wife of 15 years following an affair with a dominatrix. Larry, 37, appeared at the Cannes Festival premiere of Matrix Reloaded with 36-year-old blonde Karin Winslow last week. Wachowski - who writes and directs the hit movies with brother Andy Wachowski - is reported to have left his wife Thea after hiring Winslow's services, leaving her transsexual husband fuming. Jake Miller, estranged husband of Winslow, is now alleging in British newspaper The Mail On Sunday that Larry is a cross-dresser who ran off with his wife. He says, "He stole my wife from me and he crossed over the boundaries. I'm not saying I'm a saint, but I am telling the truth. Larry Wachowski is living a lie. He has been cross-dressing for years and everybody knows it. But in Hollywood, money talks. And if you are the director of a hit like The Matrix, you can get away with anything. I hope Larry is man enough to hear what I am saying and to come out and admit who - or what - he is. I want people to know the truth. When Larry walked down the red carpet with my wife, he was probably wearing a bra and panties under his suit."

[Grebdron]

Who gives a shit what he's wearing under his suit?

Sour grapes.

[quoth_the_raven]

and all this with the matrix sequel due out...

now, let me think about this...

:D

[quoth_the_raven]

hah.i did a double post.

someone shoot me.

:D

[notchreturns]

Can't... stop... laughing...

... must... get... oxygen.... fast...

I'm... falling... I... can... feel... it... in... my... bo...dy...


... oh.... no... a Wachow... ski... brother... has... killed... me...


*notch falls of his chair and dies from laughing too hard*

[Droog989]

How is it that no one can ever even get in touch with either of the brother's for a sound-byte concerning their own films, yet somehow an individual miraculously discovered that one of the famous brothers is a cross-dressing dominatrix lover?

Doesn't sound right to me, but hey, I'm sceptical towards all celebrity news, expecially something as outlandish as this.

[Scarface98.9]

This sounds like utter bullshit, considering how secretive they are, but this is the funniest piece of bullshit I've heard in a dog's age. My sides are hurting like no other occasion :D

[James Logan]

Originally posted by notchreturns
Can't... stop... laughing...

... must... get... oxygen.... fast...

I'm... falling... I... can... feel... it... in... my... bo...dy...


... oh.... no... a Wachow... ski... brother... has... killed... me...


*notch falls of his chair and dies from laughing too hard*

My thoughts exactly...

...well, more or less. :)

[NeuGenX]

If this is true Jerry Springer will be happy :D

Although he's had some bizarre shows, I don't think he's had an "I love my crossdressing and my dominatrix GF who left her she-male husband for me" show. I could be wrong though, he's had some real weird stuff on over the years :)

[Jon Lyrik]

Oh man that is funny. Weird shit. Definitely bullshit, but funny.

[FeverDog420]

Following all the stories about ''Matrix'' co-creator Larry Wachowski allegedly taking hormones to prep for an upcoming sex change operation come reports from sources that say distributor Warner Bros. may be doing an alteration that will take a lot less work. For the upcoming third ''Matrix'' film (due in November), it seems the writing and directing credits for Chicago native Larry and his brother and partner, Andy Wachowski, will merely be listed as ''The Wachowskis.''

''That certainly would solve any gender issues that might be pending,'' a "Matrix" insider said Monday.

An in-depth story in the current National Enquirer goes into all the gory details of Wachowski's split from his wife, Thea, the onset of an S&M relationship with a dominatrix (who reportedly calls him ''Lana''), his penchant for wearing women's clothes and lingerie and his recent appearance at the Cannes Film Festival--wearing earrings, full makeup, etc.

Neither Warner Bros. nor a rep for the Wachowskis would comment on any aspect of this story.

Karin Winslow, the alleged dominatrix who attended the Los Angeles premiere of ''The Matrix Reloaded'' with Wachowski, is still married to a man who himself is a transsexual.

Edit: I omitted my source. This was from the Chicago Sun-Times.

[vastlynne]

Oh man, what is going on? Sex-change operation?? For the love of God, please tell me that's not true. This story is getting more bizarre every day.

[Dude]

Oh god...please no. a sex change?.....he just isnt cute enough to make a hot looking shemale.... :D

[The Locnar]

This whole thing really has taken a turn for the bizarre.

Someone where I work did the same thing. Started showing up to work wearing earrings and make-up then went away for a while and came back as a "woman" and now everyone has to refer to "her" as her. "She" uses the ladies restroom and none of the women here are allowed to even complain or they will go on report.

The thing is "she" doesn't look like a lady AT ALL. "She" looks like a dude in drag...with the 5 o' clock shadow and all. My point is I don't think the operation makes any difference for the recipient, even psychologically. I think if you're born a dude, you're a dude and no amount of slicin' will change that.

[Milhouse]

I think in that case your co=worker just wants to use the womens washroom so he can look under the stall.

[FeverDog420]

Originally posted by The Locnar
I think if you're born a dude, you're a dude and no amount of slicin' will change that.

Please see Southern Comfort (2001) and then educate us why you believe this.

[James Logan]

I'm loving this shite. :D

[The Locnar]

Originally posted by FeverDog420
Please see Southern Comfort (2001) and then educate us why you believe this.

Oh boy. This isn't really the appropriate forum for this buuuutt...
I don't really need a movie to tell me you can't change the laws of nature. If you're born a male then you don't JUST have a penis...your brain is different and you have different organs completely also a different skeletal structure. This is all established medical and biological fact that really isn't up for debate.

It would be like Michael Jackson going around claiming to be causcasian cuz his skin is lighter now.

Anything else would be emotional and psychological...even though Larry W. FEELS like he should be a woman doesn't mean he can click his heels togethor and be transported to vagina-land.

Sometimes you just have to deal with the hand life gave you.

[FeverDog420]

Originally posted by The Locnar
I don't really need a movie to tell me you can't change the laws of nature. If you're born a male then you don't JUST have a penis...your brain is different and you have different organs completely also a different skeletal structure. This is all established medical and biological fact that really isn't up for debate.

Um, besides the genitals, what organs are different between a man and a woman? Skeletal structure is altered by hormone injections. I'm not sure about brain size, but if you've actually ever spoken with a transsexual (I suspect you've never even met one), or, say, watched the Discovery Channel, you'd learn that their brains are of the gender their body isn't. That's what the problem is. So, by having the operation, they're just righting a biological mistake.

It would be like Michael Jackson going around claiming to be causcasian cuz his skin is lighter now.

You really think this is the same as having a sex change? Please don't bring MJ to this discussion. What he's done to himself is, IMO, motivated by self-hatred; transsexualism is about feeling comfortable inside one's body. You think MJ will ever reach a point where's he's happy who he is?

Anything else would be emotional and psychological...even though Larry W. FEELS like he should be a woman doesn't mean he can click his heels togethor and be transported to vagina-land.

Where have you been? Anyone who can afford to is able to change their gender. All it takes is surgery and the proper hormone injections. Well, not all; but you're oversimplifying (and belittling) the subject with your choice of words ("Click your heels...to vagina-land"). It's a serious, complex matter, and it's somewhat offensive and tactless to reduce it to such ignorant-sounding verbiage.

And what about hermaphrodites? Every year in the U.S., approximately 1 in every 2,000 babies are born with an intersex condition. This is also an "established medical and biological fact that really isn't up for debate," yet you believe everyone is born one way or the other, and must "deal with" it.

Anyway, good for what's-his-name. I respect anyone who's honest with himself, and who doesn't feel ashamed to admitting to things conventional society deems "abnormal."

[Dietrich]

Originally posted by FeverDog420
..and his recent appearance at the Cannes Film Festival--wearing earrings, full makeup, etc.

Did he really do this?? Full make up and all?? Pictures anywhere??

[Scarface98.9]

Andy Wachowski
Why don't you shut up about women, Larry? You're putting us off.

Larry Wachowski
Women have a perfect right to play a part in our movement, Andy.

AW
Why are you always on about women, Stan?

LW
I want to be one.

AW
What?

LW
I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me
Loretta.

AW
What?

Loretta
It's my right as a man.

Carrie-Ann Moss
Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Larry?

Loretta
I want to have babies.

AW
You want to have babies?!

Loretta
It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.

AW
But...you can't have babies!

Loretta
Don't you opress me!

AW
I'm not opressing you, Larry. You haven't got a womb. Where is the fetus going to gestate? You're going to keep it in a box?

Loretta
Sniff.

C-AM
Here, I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually
have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even Joel Silver's, but that he can have the right to
have babies.

Keanu Reeves
Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right
to have babies, brother. Sister! Sorry.

AW
What's the point?

LW
What?

AW
What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when
he can't have babies?

KR
It is symbolic of our struggle against opression.

AW
Symbolic of his struggle against reality.

[The Locnar]

Originally posted by FeverDog420 Um, besides the genitals, what organs are different between a man and a woman? Skeletal structure is altered by hormone injections. I'm not sure about brain size, but if you've actually ever spoken with a transsexual (I suspect you've never even met one), or, say, watched the Discovery Channel, you'd learn that their brains are of the gender their body isn't. That's what the problem is. So, by having the operation, they're just righting a biological mistake.

So you met a transsexual and watched the Discovery Channel and now you're an expert. Whatever. Men have a prostate gland and women have a uterus and womb. Also, no amount of hormones in the world are going to reshape a man's pelvis into a woman's pelvis or cause them to grow an extra rib. That's basic anatomy.


You really think this is the same as having a sex change? Please don't bring MJ to this discussion.

If you can bring hermaphrodites into this then I can bring MJ into it. They're pretty much the same thing anyway.


Where have you been? Anyone who can afford to is able to change their gender. All it takes is surgery and the proper hormone injections. Well, not all; but you're oversimplifying (and belittling) the subject with your choice of words ("Click your heels...to vagina-land"). It's a serious, complex matter, and it's somewhat offensive and tactless to reduce it to such ignorant-sounding verbiage.

First of all, GET BENT! Second, it's only as complex as you make it. If you're born a man then you're a man, the end. Slicin your willie and shootin up hormones does not make a dude a lady. If I were a woman, I would feel offended if I spent my whole life dealing with the stuff women have to deal with just to have some guy come along and say "I'm one of you now!" That would be like me (white guy) getting my skin permanently darkened then going around telling everyone I'm an African-American.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by FeverDog420
...and his recent appearance at the Cannes Film Festival--wearing earrings, full makeup, etc.


This is the part of the story that really bugs me. As far as I know, the Wachowskis were NOT at Cannes. The whole cast and crew of RELOADED was there, but the two pretentious wonder boys weren't -- Joel Silver excused them by saying they were "hard at work on THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS" (an obvious lie, as the whole rest of the crew was at Cannes, including special effects supervisor John Gaeta and the editor).

[FeverDog420]

Originally posted by The Locnar
So you met a transsexual and watched the Discovery Channel and now you're an expert. Whatever. Men have a prostate gland and women have a uterus and womb. Also, no amount of hormones in the world are going to reshape a man's pelvis into a woman's pelvis or cause them to grow an extra rib. That's basic anatomy.

I never said I was an expert. I've just made an effort to understand why these things are - something you apparently can't be bothered doing. Ever hear of empathy?

An extra rib? You're defining gender by the number of rib bones? And, FYI, if you took regular estrogen injection, your pelvis would round at while also growing you breasts and halting body hair. See what one can learn with a little study?

If you can bring hermaphrodites into this then I can bring MJ into it. They're pretty much the same thing anyway.

The stupidity of this statement is so astounding, I don't know where to begin responding to it. Tell me this is your idea of a joke. Skin color is no different than gender identity? Please elaborate.


First of all, GET BENT! Second, it's only as complex as you make it. If you're born a man then you're a man, the end. Slicin your willie and shootin up hormones does not make a dude a lady. If I were a woman, I would feel offended if I spent my whole life dealing with the stuff women have to deal with just to have some guy come along and say "I'm one of you now!" That would be like me (white guy) getting my skin permanently darkened then going around telling everyone I'm an African-American.

Okay, fine. You're right. It's as simple as you believe it is. I'm talking out my ass. So simple that everyone should have no problem understanding it. Since hermaphrodites throw a monkey wrench into your theory that "If you're born a man then you're a man," you've chosen to disregard them in this debate. Fine. Ignore the facts that don't support your argument, right?

And you "feel offended"? That's your problem, not the trannie's. Must be nice to be a member of the heterosexual white hegemony, so you never need to defend who you are, or directly deal with bigotry, prejudice and ignorance. Good for you.

I do wonder what your opinion would be if you found yourself sleeping with a post-op transsexual. Since it's said a gynecologist can't tell the difference, I imagine you'd change your tune. "She's definitely a woman! I ain't no queer!"

I don't want to turn this totally into a political debate, but to understand your worldview, I'd like to know: Do you support your state's anti-gay sodomy laws? Just wondering.

[Nate6]

Would you guys please stop talking about the sex change process and get back to Larry Wachowski, please and thanks?

[FeverDog420]

Ok, I'll drop it.

[The Locnar]

Originally posted by FeverDog420
Ok, I'll drop it.

Yhea right, cuz you got the last word in.

If only I wasn't afraid of Nate6 and his mighty maple leaf of justice.

[vtadave]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't come here to talk about hermaphrodites, transsexuals, pelvises, and hormone injections.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by vtadave
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't come here to talk about hermaphrodites, transsexuals, pelvises, and hormone injections.

I do.;)

Hey Locnar...ease up on the "get bent" type of comments. They aren't appreciated.

[Gregorious8]

Has anyone seen the National Enquirer pics? I have and I'm not sure if they are of him or someone else. They look like it's a women.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Gregorious8
Has anyone seen the National Enquirer pics? I have and I'm not sure if they are of him or someone else. They look like it's a women.

Sounds cool. Know anywhere we could find 'em? On the Internet? Or maybe someone could scan them? I wanna see those! :)

[MsMoviefan]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Oh man that is funny. Weird shit. Definitely bullshit, but funny.
Wait & see

[arto_j]

Jeffrey Wells wrote a piece on it here (http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/80.html)...There's also some pictures there to check out for those interested...

[The Locnar]

Originally posted by Grebdron
I do.;)

Hey Locnar...ease up on the "get bent" type of comments. They aren't appreciated.

Sorry, didn't appreciate the "ignorant-sounding verbiage" comment.

[Gregorious8]

Here's a pic from the article.

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/images/2003/jun4/larry.jpg

[James Logan]

Originally posted by Gregorious8
Here's a pic from the article.

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/images/2003/jun4/larry.jpg

HOLY BUTTFUCK BATMAN! :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/images/2003/jun4/larry2.jpg

BEFORE ---------------------- AFTER

Darn.

[JustinKing665]

Originally posted by Gregorious8
Here's a pic from the article.

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/images/2003/jun4/larry.jpg

PANTS AND SHIT!

[rilocay]

LMAO

Now it all makes sense why they (or more HE) hired Hugo Weaving for Smith......if you dont know what i mean go to the vd store and get out a little Aussie hit called Priscilla Queen of the desert.

[echo_bravo]

wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. The Wachowski bros should have their own reality TV show. This is fucking hilarious!