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JustinKing665
05-20-2003, 10:09 PM
Yea yea, I know how the whole "but everyone's got an opinion" is justified as an excuse for someone being an idiot, but come on, there are sometimes when people will just bitch and nitpick about the stupidest shit that you just have to wonder if their "opinions" really require you to take them seriously.

Case in point: The massive amounts of people bitching about the Hulk because he looks "computer animated".

Well, of course he looks computer animated, geniuses. That's because he is. I mean, Jesus Christ, how the fuck else are they going to make a massive 12-foot tall green monster? Don't give me this "Spray-paint a guy green" or "use animatronics!" bullshit. To me that would make it look 10 times more fake, especially animatronics, which would make Hulk go from looking like a "cartoon" to a freaking toy puppet.

Yea, so he may look like a cartoon character. But you know what? He looks exactly like the fuckin comic book version.



Okay, so that for me is just one long example. Another example is people bitching about the use of CGI in Matrix Reloaded, simply because its there.

And what YOU people call "overuse of CGI" I call "an efficient way of achieving things in scenes that currently can't be accomplished with today's current technology."



Okay, I'm done. Feel free to slam me for my ignorant views.

Michael_myers
05-20-2003, 10:42 PM
Ok, about your original topic. Yes people piss me off majorly. Over on the IMDB message board dealies, consistant bashing over the Exorcist and the Elephant Man really gets to me. And my grandmother's bashing of Taxi Driver as well.

BrentLumkin
05-20-2003, 10:49 PM
But there IS an overuse of CGI, there is no question about that. I could name off films over and over which have been hurt by them in many ways. Hollywood seems to be using CGI as a type of crutch, in many instances.

Scarface98.9
05-20-2003, 10:51 PM
The only opinions that annoy me are people who say something like "That Movee wuz fuking st00pid!" and give no elaboration. I could name off people who I think have bad taste, but most of them give passable reasons. It's just people who give reviews that are poorly spelled and worded like the mentioned example

the movie guy
05-20-2003, 10:57 PM
I get ya, Justin King, and totally agree.

Those two movies have STATE OF THE ART visual effects, and they look as good as they're ever going to be able to look for a few years, at least. And any other method of attempting what they did with something not CG would have sucked.

BrentLumkin
05-20-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Scarface98.9
The only opinions that annoy me are people who say something like "That Movee wuz fuking st00pid!" and give no elaboration. I could name off people who I think have bad taste, but most of them give passable reasons. It's just people who give reviews that are poorly spelled and worded like the mentioned example

No offense to anyone that does that, but when I see tripe like that I don't even bother reading it.

Wait, on second thought, I hope someone takes offense to it after all. I take my film seriously, and can't stand for morons to show their true selfs.

NeuGenX
05-21-2003, 02:07 AM
On the original topic, CGI is only as good as the people who create it can make it. Compare the CGI on films such as T2, Dark City and Bram Stoker's Dracula to the Hulk and you can see why people complain. I think my main complaint is that the Hulk looks too cartoony/comicbooky and there should have been some effort to find a bridge between the real world and the comic world, in this case all it actually would've taken is more shadowing and dulling of the character. As it looks now it looks more like Roger Rabbit than T2 in live/CGI interaction. That's a definite mistake in a movie meant to be taken somewhat seriously IMO.

quoth_the_raven
05-21-2003, 03:06 AM
To be honest, yes, when people have a view they can not support or is so outlandish, it can not be reasonably held, i do find myself wanting to take peoples computers away so they cant bug me anymore...

so long as its supportable, to each their own. right to free speech and all that...

god i am tired :(

SimplePlanGurl8
05-21-2003, 01:06 PM
Yah I get annoyed sometimes by peoples opinions, but thats their right to think that I mean if someone bashes one of my favorite movies i'll just forget it because thats their opinion not mine. I do strongly dislike though when pepole are incredibly stubborn and say a movie is stupid but have no reasoning behind them calling it stupid.

I agree that the Hulk looks cartoonish I laughed out loud after seeing the commercial IMO I think they should of toned down on the CGI. I haven't seen the Matrix Reloaded but from what I have the effects look awesome.

syxxpac
05-21-2003, 02:45 PM
It really pisses me off when, if more than one person disagrees with me about a movie, they'll team up and act as if my opinion is wrong. I've had it happen to me a few times concerning Pulp Fiction, Aliens, and The Matrix Reloaded to name but a few. Then they ask me "what the hell is so good about it?", and before I can come up with several ideal answers, they just shrug and smile, as if to say "ah ha! Gotcha. Can't think of anything can ya"....yeah, I admit it. Ya got me buddy...:rolleyes:

There isn't a viable amount of pain to inflict on these particular morons.

chinton
05-21-2003, 03:07 PM
I have to say it annoys when someone says this movie is stupid and has no reasons to support but it really annoys when someone says someones opion is idiotic just because they dont like it. Frankly I would be careful Justin King with the word idiotic. You used it in The Matrix Reloaded thread when some of us including me thought some of the FX was cheesy. I'm sorry but I thought some of the effects were chessy and hated the movie overall. If you don't like that fine but that gives you no right to call mine or anybody elses opinion idiotic or ignorant. If you want to bash people for going against the majority you should go over to ACIN. Thats the reason I left ACIN becuase I coudn't go on the message board without being called an idiot for not liking something.

A good example on how people can disagree in a civilized way. I was apparently the only person on the horror board who hated House of A Thousand Corpses. I put up my reveiew for why I hated it and people understood instead of c alling me ignorant or an ACIN plant.

SIREN30
05-21-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by quoth_the_raven
To be honest, yes, when people have a view they can not support or is so outlandish, it can not be reasonably held, i do find myself wanting to take peoples computers away so they cant bug me anymore...

so long as its supportable, to each their own. right to free speech and all that...

god i am tired :(

But what if they feel they ARE supporting their argument and you just don't agree w/ their supporting statments?

Do you still want to take my...I mean THEIR...computers away?:D

That's wht opinions are all about, right?

quoth_the_raven
05-21-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by SIREN30
But what if they feel they ARE supporting their argument and you just don't agree w/ their supporting statments?

Do you still want to take my...I mean THEIR...computers away?:D

That's wht opinions are all about, right?



i guess i just like to see a little thought. i do try, when i have the time to, to support what i say. even just a little. whereas people who are saying things just to shock or stir the shit, with no support whatsoever, that bugs me.

i see your point thought and you could see it like that. but if some one tells me that this sucks because...i like to see that. whereas being told that something bizzare and insupportable....i cant think of example now...thats quite annoying.

BrentLumkin
05-21-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by SIREN30
But what if they feel they ARE supporting their argument and you just don't agree w/ their supporting statments?

Do you still want to take my...I mean THEIR...computers away?:D

That's wht opinions are all about, right?

It's obvious when someone actually pust some thought into something, it isn't hard to tell.

Reigh Kaufman
05-21-2003, 05:12 PM
Peoples opinions frustrate me all the time and I don't care who knows it. Long as I don't make them repress their opinion or force them to change it, they shouldn't care...Take Buck Turgidson and Electriclite. I think they speak a lot of sense on the forums and yet neither can stand Magnolia. It frustrates me cos I like them both, but, man, no way will I be drawn into trying to change their opinions on the movie. They know they are wrong, anyways, so it's all good.

Tom Samborski
05-21-2003, 05:46 PM
Judging a film by a trailer that's only a minute and a half long. I remember when the first T3 trailer with actual footage from the movie debuted on the internet. Afterwards, everyone said it was going to definitely suck. That ticked me off somewhat, as how can someone be so positive a movie can suck based on a short trailer? My suggestion is that you save your judgement until you actually SEE the movie. I also hate the fact that people are saying it won't be good without Cameron. Hey, The Empire Strikes Back wasn't directed by the father of the Star Wars series, George Lucas, and look how that turned out. Many think it even surpassed the original. I think it's better this way if T3 looks different than T1 and T2, because it shows Jonathan Mostow's vision of the series. Some may not like it, but others do. But the simple fact is, Cameron's gone, he ain't coming back, and we all have to adjust to it sooner or later.

syxxpac
05-21-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Tom Samborski
My suggestion is that you save your judgement until you actually SEE the movie.

I guess you could say we should save our judgment...for Judgment Day?

Okay, shitty pun. Just couldn't let that one slip through...

mr shh
05-23-2003, 01:01 PM
All the damn time, especially when their opinion is dumb. I mean obviously if you disagree with someone you'll think that their opinion is dumb... But its when they're sticking to some stupid opinion for absolutely no reason. I'd like to do some golfing on their heads...

Formulate a strong argument then try to argue it, and don't try to force an opinion on someone just because its your opinion.

Oh and if your disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing you deserve to burn a firey hell in a pool of jet fuel!!!

SIREN30
05-23-2003, 01:13 PM
But Mr Shhh, what if they like a movie (for instance) but they really dont have a good argument for why they do? Sometimes people just like something. Why should they have to argue a point as to why? I always thought the purpose of this board was discuss movies, not necessarily debate them.

Doc Holliday
05-25-2003, 09:19 AM
I wish all of you blowhards would keep your stinking opinions to yourself! ;)

I actually thought that was the point to this site. Talk about movies and throw out some opinions on what you have seen, the way you feel about what you have seen, and about what pisses you off. Other people opinions son't get on my nerves, nor do they piss me off, get me into a rage, or seek Anger Management (although I saw the movie, hated it).

A wise Schmoe once told me, "If you don't like it, don't read it."

BubbaStrangelove
05-25-2003, 09:54 AM
I don't think it's their opinion that frustrates me.

I think it's my attempts to sway them to validate my opinion that frustrates me.

Jon Lyrik
05-25-2003, 10:10 AM
No, unless they are incredibly misinformed.

chinton
05-26-2003, 04:18 PM
I really don't understand why it hasn't it occoured to mos t poeple whats the difference between the an opion and a dumb opinion. Mr Shhh if you don't like a movie and somebody does how do you distinguish between you think theyre is dumb because they dont have a reason and you think theyre opinion is dumb because they don't agree with you.


I was repeatedly called ignorant among other things becuase I hated Matric Reloaded, House of a Thousand Corpses, and I hate H.P. Lovecraft. I had good reasons for these that appeased most, but some still thought I was dumb because I essentially didn't agree with them.

How about everybody is allowed to have their own opinions without being baddgered.