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Scully1888
06-08-2003, 08:46 AM
I knew there was something I had to tell you schmoes!

I found this out at the end of April and it's taken me a whole month to tell you all so I apoloise.

As you may or may not know, Robert Englund was in Edinburgh at the end of April, signing shit and introducing a screening of A Nightmare On Elm Street, followed by a Q&A.

Now this Q&A consisted mainly of answers I already knew (as a lot of them were already answered on the Nightmare Encyclopedia DVD you get with the US DVD box set), but there was one fucking sweet piece of information that he told us that I never knew (and I'd like to think I'm up there with teenkiller in terms of Nightmare fandom... sorry TK), so I thought I'd share this with you schmoes.

According to Englund, because of Craven's previous experience with the MPAA (Last House On The Left and The Hills Have Eyes among others) he was under the impression that a horror film will always be cut in some way, as a way of somehow proving their power.

Craven was pretty sure the scene the MPAA would cut was the scene with Tina being dragged across the ceiling, but this was among his favourite scenes so, according to Englund, Craven filmed more extreme scenes that he didn't really need in the first place, so the MPAA would cut them and leave the Tina scene (as it wouldn't look so bad in comparison).

So the Tina death was originally much longer and also contained a POV shot from Tina's eyes, looking at Freddy dragging her across the ceiling (much like we see in New Nightmare).

But now comes the sweet touch. I forget exactly what Englund said the blood with made of (try and help me out here Psychocandy... you were there :)), but one of these extra shots has Freddy (on the ceiling) showing his glove (soaked in blood) to Tina and blowing her a kiss.

However, when he spread out his fingers, some of the blood formed a slight film between two of the blades (much like the rod/wand thing in those little pots of bubbles does), so when Freddy blows the kiss (facing the camera, beause it's Tina's POV remember), a little blood bubble flew off the glove and landed right on the camera lens.

According to Englund this looked "beautiful" and he wishes it wasn't cut, but it seems it was never submitted to the MPAA after all. And the Tina scene WAS cut, albeit by a split second (we don't see Tina hitting the bed when she falls... you do in the UK version).

I have always wanted to see what this looked like and have scoured the internet for photos (because Englund claims he saw someone taking photos during that scene, and that Japanese books tend to have photos he's never seen before), but to no avail.

But how fucking sweet would that scene have been?

Jon Lyrik
06-08-2003, 10:56 AM
Very interesting...

BTW: Is there any un-MPAA'd DVD of NOES?

Hell Phantom
06-08-2003, 11:49 AM
I like the sound of that scene.....sounds whicked cool I must say

the night watchman
06-08-2003, 01:17 PM
I've been hearing about the "blood kiss" shot for years; Englund almost always mentions it when he's doing a convention. If it was going to turn up, I think it would have by now, and probably somewhere in the NOES box set. Since it hasn't, and did't, I have a feeling that the shot doesn't exist anymore.:(

countchocula
06-08-2003, 01:57 PM
Fucking sweet indeed. But Night's right, I'm afraid; it would/should have surfaced by now. I doubt that we'll ever get a chance to see it.

teenkiller
06-08-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Scully1888
(and I'd like to think I'm up there with teenkiller in terms of Nightmare fandom... sorry TK


Being in the same NIGHTMARE league as you is an honor. Anyways, I had already heard of the kiss scene but thought that it either didn't exist anymore or if it did it sounded quite corny. However, if ROBERT ENGLUND himself says it looked great then I will take his word for it. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

X-Nightcrawler
06-08-2003, 10:03 PM
MY! That scene would have seriously launch the FEAR factor as high as heaven!

Boogeyman
06-08-2003, 11:21 PM
Robert mentioned something about that on the Boogeymen DVD with the commentary he did. He said something about a blood-bubble that was cut. I didnt know what he was talking about though. It sounded really sweet!

later

Mr. Movie Man
06-10-2003, 07:40 PM
That sounds really slick!!!! If I never see that scene, I just might use that idea if I ever make a Freddy movie.

TheAxeGrinder
06-10-2003, 09:04 PM
I've heard of that somewhere down the line, although I never really got a picture of what it was about until it was explained further. Thanks for sharing this, Scully1888. I don't think that the scene would've been so bad that it would have to have been cut, although the stuff that they were 'axing' back then was kind of too much, but hey, you never know :D

stevereno
06-11-2003, 12:07 AM
actually i have heard of the "blood kiss" scene but i didn't think it was for real. it was mentioned on www.nitpickers.com. i was looking through "elm street" nitpicks and someone said that there was too much blood on the bed when tina fell. a person wrote in and said it was because of a "blood kiss" scene which was cut.

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

Lindsey
06-11-2003, 12:15 AM
'Sweet as hell' is right! If it ever turns up (I highly doubt it will) then I'd be willing to pay big bucks to see it.

ERIN_LoJ
06-11-2003, 02:28 AM
It's almost depressing to hear what ends up cut out of movies.
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I would have loved to see this scene, it was had made ol' Fred even more menacing than he came out of in the original. I can picture a scene like that staying in people's minds for a long time.

As for the MPAA power/craven theory...right on. I never thought of it in quite that angle before but it does carry a certain horrible truth.

the night watchman
06-11-2003, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by ERIN_LoJ

As for the MPAA power/craven theory...right on. I never thought of it in quite that angle before but it does carry a certain horrible truth.

Even Tarantino shot more "brutal" scenes than he intended for the final cut for "Pulp Fiction" and "Res Dogs" to get his vision past the MPAA. Fascist bastards.