I'm tired of bad things being said about teen movies!

[the p&j experiance]

I know, they aren't revolutionary movies, they won't change the way you look at life, other then MTV awards, they'll probably never win an award, but everytime I watch one I am entertained until the credits begin to roll. I'm not a "teen movie" fanatic, but they are entertaining and never bore me. But modern teen movies will never compare to the ones of the 80s. Wooohoo!

Anybody feel the same way? Or is there gonna be a lynching?

[Indiana Sev]

The extreme popularity of teen movies from the last few years has paved the way for this monstrosity....


http://www.joblo.com/upcomingmovies/2003/posters/images/posterfromjustintokelly.jpg





This....I can never forgive!!!



:mad:

[the p&j experiance]

....you know, you have a point, but I dont think this is a teen movie. I'm talking Breakfast Club or She's All That, not some bullshit gimmick with the America Idol fuckheads.

[HHH123007]

From Justin To Kelly had it's way paved for it by the dumb-fucks who watch American Idol....

I'm sure that a lot of teens watch AI, but don't totally blame that age group please....I know a ton of mormon parents that watch that crap too...

[jackson13]

Just dont say anything bad about Kelly. Im like absolutely in love with her right now. I might actually go see Justin to Kelly just so I can gawk and stare at Kelly for 2 hours.

I for one happen to like teen movies myself. Sure they never portray high school the way it really is, but its a movie, its not real. They do get a bad rap, and true a lot of them suck monkey nuts, but a lot of them are very entertaining and (gasp!) quite good.

[The Postmaster General]

This is why I go hay-wire when ever I hear people "lumping" movies based on a couple they've seen in the genre. *(ie. action movies are stupid, art house films are lame, dramas are boring...)

I just like seeing people make fun of teen movies in one thread, then rave about Donnie Darko in another.

Indiana Sev -- Did you ever think that Jackass paved the way for the American Idol movie?

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Indiana Sev -- Did you ever think that Jackass paved the way for the American Idol movie?

I have to admit, I laughed my ass off watching Jackass: The Movie. It was dumb, childish and pointless...it got me laughing though, unlike 95% of the teen comedies produced nowadays (the ones in the eighties at least tried to have some kind of creativity to them).

Ferris Bueller's Day Off and The Breakfast Club were very good. Name me two teen films lately that can compare to those two.

And don't say Get It On, Whatever It Takes, Drive Me Crazy, She's All That, etc...

And let's come out with it already, the only reason we watched the Jennifer Love Hewitt ones were to gawk at her..."talents". :p

And it was great!!! :cool:

[countchocula]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I just like seeing people make fun of teen movies in one thread, then rave about Donnie Darko in another.

I wouldn't call Donnie Darko a "teen movie." Yes, it features teenagers and yes, some of it takes place at high school, but the "teen movie" tag is usually designated to a mindless breed of teen-oriented popcorn flicks (gross-out comedies, cutesy romance stories, etc.). To even suggest that something as multi-faceted and genre-bending as Darko falls under the same category as something as trite and vacant as From Justin to Kelly is an unwarranted insult to the film (Darko, that is).

I abhor most "teen movies," but I'm not the target audience. Even so, I enjoy one every once in awhile (I dug 10 Things I Hate About You).

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by countchocula
Yes, it features teenagers and yes, some of it takes place at high school, but the "teen movie" tag is usually designated to a mindless breed of teen-oriented popcorn flicks (gross-out comedies, cutesy romance stories, etc.).


Yes, but that doesn't describe THE BREAKFAST CLUB, or FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH. I didn't think it was mindless or cutesy when Jennifer Jason Leigh got knocked up and the father wouldn't care for the baby.

The only reason "teen movies" have those associations, is because that's what modern film goers have placed on them.

To me, teen movies are about rebellion, puberty, dealing with authority, etc.... If a movie centers around a teenager, and the things a teen goes through in growing up, then it is a teen movie.

Donnie Darko has all of the same elements as any other teen movie. Sure, it's great, but that doesn't mean it fails to deal with themes like puberty, rebelion, angst.

If you can tell me, in a thematic sense, how Donnie Darko is different than The Breakfast Club, then that's great. The only difference I can see is that one is more surreal, and one was directed by John Hughes.

It's like how Rushmore is very different than There's Something about Mary, but both are Romantic Comedies.

Oh, and Indiana Sev, one movie that was as good as The Breakfast Club was PUMP UP THE VOLUME, but ou want something recent, and I have to admit, the last movie I'd seen that I'd considered a "teen movie" was Donnie Darko. You will probably disagree with me, but I found American Pie to be good. I know it was trying to be like a PORKY'S, but I think it worked better as a modern Breakfast Club, though dealing with more sexuality. The movie dealt with the emotions going with sex much more than a movie like Porky's, and it also *gasp* added depth to the female stereotypes (Like Breakfast Club.)

In short, I think American Pie was "Fast Times" good, and Pump Up The Volume was "Breakfast Club" good. And not all teen movies have to look like a John Hughes production.

[countchocula]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
If you can tell me, in a thematic sense, how Donnie Darko is different than The Breakfast Club, then that's great. The only difference I can see is that one is more surreal, and one was directed by John Hughes.

Thematically, I can see the similarities, but to me, the execution of those themes is what establishes the admittedly blurry line between Donnie Darko and "teen movies." They were made to appeal to conflicting audiences and were marketed accordingly. Whether or not that's enough to say that Darko isn't a "teen movie" will have to be left up to our own judgment. Bear in mind that, due to my unfortunate age, my image of a "teen movie" differs from yours. I see them under a less flattering light, but unlike you, I didn't grow up with the meatier classics. I'm growing up with gross-out comedies and cutesy romance stories, neither of which offer much in the way of depth or resonance (granted, some of them aren't meant to offer much in the way of depth or resonance).

In my book, calling Darko a "teen movie" is like calling System of a Down a nu-metal outfit. Yeah, the elements are there, but they are so much more than what their inequitable classifications imply.

[betje]

I know it's completely out of place in this thread, but please indulge me:

I would just like to congratulate countchocula for being the proud owner of the most disgusting avatar on the board! :D

Where the hell did you get that pic from?

[countchocula]

LOL, thanks! It's from a film called The Night Flier, a personal favorite of mine. Rent/buy/steal it.

[the p&j experiance]

Some more sad and unrelated news, I just looked in the mirror and not only am I getting gray hair, I'm also already balding. The saddest part about all of this you ask? I'm 15 years old. I'm aware that it has nothing to do with movies, but I'm pissed.

[Justin Harris]

The reason people say so many bad things about teen movies is because, like making fun of Catholic Priests, R. Kelly, and President Bush...

It's so easy!

Teen movies generally suck anyway, so who cares if they're being made fun of. They're full of modern day clichés that only appeal to modern day teenagers and are utterly ridiculous. And because of that... it does pave the way for shit like From Justin to Kelly.

[Jon Lyrik]

To somewhat tailor my words on a similar thread for Rom-Coms:

No, not all teen movies suck. Most do, these days anyway, like any other genre.

[Scarface98.9]

Why the hate? It's fairly simple when you think of it: Most teen movies these days suck. They sacrifice drama for the sake of cheap jokes, gross out humor, and insist on always having a happy ending. I know not every teen movie tries to be realistic, but it's hard to find a movie in the last 10 years that was a realistic, or even close to realistic teen movie about high school, or anything else. It's more cynical, mean, confusing than what they portray, and not every school consists of only WASPS

[The Postmaster General]

Well, while we may not agree on what constitutes a teen movie....


I really can't think of how to finish that.

:D

[DareDevil]

its rare that a teen movie will suceed, i thought that the under-rated movie, the skulls, was pretty good.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by DareDevil
the skulls.



See, now, The Skulls. Why is that a teen movie.


I think many of you are basing a teen movies criteria on if you like it or not.

[Raymond Babbit]

People wouldn't say so many bad things about teen movies if 98% of them didn't suck. You want people to stop saying bad things about teen movies, make a good one.

[noahx29]

Originally posted by betje
I know it's completely out of place in this thread, but please indulge me:

I would just like to congratulate countchocula for being the proud owner of the most disgusting avatar on the board! :D

Where the hell did you get that pic from?

Heheh I agree, Count, I LOVE your avatar! Its fuckin bad-ass! Heheehe... :)

[DareDevil]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
See, now, The Skulls. Why is that a teen movie.


I think many of you are basing a teen movies criteria on if you like it or not.

The Skulls is a teen movie I think because of the following

It takes place in College
and it stars teen actors that star in Dawsons Creek (Joshua Jackson)

But i guess this one's more of a toss up... it could go either way, though i still really like this movie!

[robk]

Originally posted by Scarface98.9
Why the hate? It's fairly simple when you think of it: Most teen movies these days suck. They sacrifice drama for the sake of cheap jokes, gross out humor, and insist on always having a happy ending. I know not every teen movie tries to be realistic, but it's hard to find a movie in the last 10 years that was a realistic, or even close to realistic teen movie about high school, or anything else. It's more cynical, mean, confusing than what they portray, and not every school consists of only WASPS

That's precisely why I dislike most of today's teen films. For every Clueless, there seem to be at least 20 Sugar & Spice's.