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Final Girl
06-20-2003, 12:06 PM
THEY (*** out of ****) vs DARKNESS FALLS (*1/2 out of ****)

In the latter part of 2002 and early part of 2003, two films that dealt with the notion of evil creatures that thrive in the dark and fear the light were released.

The first one was THEY, an elegant and effective piece of horror movie-making. It had a talented cast who fleshed out well-written roles. Even the most minor characters were painted in vivid strokes. Laura Regan as the heroine is someone to watch out for. I see good things in this girl's future. THEY also had a talented director who favored a subtle but endlessly creepy approach. Despite the much bally-hooed rewriting of the script from sci-fi to more traditional horror, the story was still quite potent. And frankly, after having read Brendan William Hood's original draft, I much prefer the "night terror" creatures that the villains evolved into. It was much easier for me to buy than the sci-fi, people-erasing original villains. But the director did keep the original story's audacious and downbeat ending, which ultimately may have hurt the film, but next to Laura Regan's character moving to some place like Anchorage for its endless summer sun, I don't know how else it could have ended. In many ways, this is a better film than THE RING. It's certainly way better than DARKNESS FALLS. This film deserves the success which that pathetic movie enjoyed (however briefly). It is a dread-filled, creepy, disturbing, claustrophobic, and atmospheric ride that just might make you take a second look at that dark doorway down the hall.

DARKNESS FALLS. This film is symbolic of everything wrong about modern horror films. All style, no substance. With the exception of an initially intriguing premise, and some creepy imagery in the beginning, this film is a bust. No characters to speak of, no real scares, no feeling of dread. Just a bland and mechanical horror movie made by ADD sufferers, for ADD sufferers. I'm told that the director's original intention was to create a film more in the vein of THEY, and that a lot of the "character" scenes were deleted. Okay, fine. But I have to rate the film on what made it to the theater. And what made it on screen is an utter waste of celluloid. The film briefly comes to life in the tense scene wherein the group tries to escape the darkened hospital by jumping from one meager light pool to another. But when the "people" doing the jumping are nothing more than stick figures, what the fuck is the point. Everyone looks so utterly bored and disinterested. Unlike the actors in THEY, these folks can't be bothered. Unlike the characters of THEY, these folks are flat and lifeless.

In the end, THEY is the winner by a long shot. DARKNESS FALLS may be more action-oriented and fast-paced, and may have opened to 12 million dollars its first weekend, but in the end it is the much weaker of the two. And the fact that it succeeded, and a thoughtful horror film like THEY failed at the box-office , is another sad sign that the mainstream American movie going public are little more than lemmings.

But, as I always say, I think that any horror film these days, whether it be crappy (DARKNESS FALLS), or semi-crappy (FINAL DESTINATION), good (FINAL DESTINATION 2), good but overrated (28 DAYS LATER), or very good (THEY, THE EYE), as long as it gets attention or some degree of B.O. success is a good thing, because it keeps the genre alive.

But with DARKNESS FALLS, I sometimes wonder.

TheJadedGamer
06-20-2003, 04:10 PM
Out of Darkness Falls VS They, They would clearly be the winner.


They (7/10)
Darkness Falls (5/10)

And since you mentioned other films at the end...


Final Destination (10/10)
Final Destination 2 (N/A)
28 Days Later (8/10)
The Eye (9/10)

Requiem-for-a-Dream
06-20-2003, 05:51 PM
They- 9/10

Darkness Falls- 8/10

Matt

Inglorious
06-20-2003, 06:00 PM
I'm goin with They here!
They : 7.5/10
Darkness Falls : 6/10
They seemed to be a little more mysterious, I like that. The ending was also very interesting! Where as DF wasn't as entertaining, kinda left me... well asleep on my bed! Literally.

ofmknockoff
06-20-2003, 06:17 PM
I decided not to see THEY after I saw Darkness Falls but now I think I might because nothing can be worse than Darkness Falls. I don't care how many people say that the producers ruined the director's, nothing could have made it a good movie.

Gluttony
06-22-2003, 11:56 AM
Wes Craven Presents: They- 2.5/4

Decent entertainment but it never really made anything extremely special come out of itself. Nicely made but flawed on many levels.

Darkness Falls: 2.5/4

Pretty weak flick is a funtime when heckling it to death in the theatre. Has some nice moments and is well made but overall, it is only worth it for the amusing quips you and friends can dream up.

thirdeye
06-22-2003, 05:48 PM
I tought i was the only one who liked They.

girl6
06-22-2003, 08:10 PM
They 9/10
Darkness Falls 5/10

Draven2277
06-25-2003, 08:32 PM
lol i thought i was the only person in the world to actually enjoy "They" too. i thought darkness falls kinda bit, but i actually enjoyed "they". i probably would have enjoyed a more atmospheric movies based on brendan hood's ACTUAL script...but oh well. for a weak plot and a weak script (and i thought laura regan was a weak lead) robert harmon crafted a pretty cool horror flick.

someguy
06-26-2003, 12:28 AM
They was alright but I thought that the alternate ending was A LOT better than the original one.

***SPOILERS***(highlight to read)



In the other ending it started by cutting in between with the action of her getting attacked in the subway and Regan's character rolling in bed. She wakes up in the mental ward room but the room has like drawers and looked sort of like an ordinary room. She looked out of the square window and saw in the room with all the mental patients. She looked around and it showed her old therapist as a child, the guy that killed himself and the guy and girl who also had the night terrors as patients and her boyfriend was the doctor. All of a sudden "They" burst through the window. Regan's characer backed away but the window was fine. It then said at the bottom of the screen: "patient # 042-023 and then her name. Admitted in at 16 years old. Suffers from dilusional schizophrenia. I found it to be a lot better.


But what happens to the people that are taken away by "They?"

FT13TH Addict
06-28-2003, 04:04 AM
They - 8/10
Darkness Falls - 6/10

curl up and die
06-29-2003, 11:47 AM
i just didnt care for either movie much at all

they 5/10
darkness falls 6/10

Mr. Movie Man
07-01-2003, 12:29 AM
So They is good huh? How's that for proper English?

charles lee ray
07-09-2003, 08:42 PM
i didnt like either too much. i thought Darkness Falls had alot more scares than They did. They was a little too boring for me. you cant expect a really scary horror movie because these are pg-13. if these were R they would probably be better since they could be more scary and gory.

Murderous Squad
07-15-2003, 05:27 PM
Damn no one likes darkness falls except for matt here....well i actually liked both of em and i'll giv e em both a 7/10

movies35
07-15-2003, 05:32 PM
Darkness Falls 10/10 or A+
They 0/10 or F

movies35
07-15-2003, 05:33 PM
Please don't tell me you believed that??!!

They 9/10 or A-

Darkness Falls 4/10 or D+

Li-1
04-23-2004, 06:03 AM
They-6/10
Darkness Falls-2.5/10

!MorganOnyx!
04-23-2004, 10:59 AM
UGH!!! THEY is terrible! Only the ending satisfied me! Apart from that it's bloody awful. Disgusting characters, wanky deaths (sorry - what deaths????!!). OOOH I don't want to talk about it anymore! It hurts.

DARKNESS FALLS hands down.

Elgyn
04-24-2004, 09:23 PM
"Darkness Falls" was laughably bad. I mean, it`s serious MST3K material.
I`m even surprised it went to theaters.
Has anyone counted the exact number of times the lead guy says "Stay in the light" (or variations, like "Get back in the light" etc.)?
The beginning was alright.......that was it.
And I didn`t find the 'Tooth Fairy' interesting or scary at all. She didn`t even LOOK cool (IMO the original creature design was much MUCH better).


"They" is no masterpiece either......but it is when compared to "DF".
At least "They" had a stylish look and somewhat likable characters. And a daring ending.

slasherfan
04-25-2004, 08:28 AM
I can't choose they're both shite!

Halloweenman
04-25-2004, 10:36 AM
ya I agree with all of you on this one.
They: I thought " They " was alright but nothing to great about it.
Darkness Falls sucked sucked sucked its shit!!!
The only alright thing about DF is I liked the scene with that kid in the bathroom and that monster lady could not get in because of the, light so the monster lady went and killed his mom. that was good. but the rest of the movie SUCKED!


They C+
Darkness Falls D-
Final Destination A+
Final Destination 2 A+
28 Days Later B- (overrated)
The Eye N/A I Plan on checking it out

Tarman
04-26-2004, 04:44 PM
I liked They but also felt Darkness Falls fell flat after the first 10 mins

They B-

Darkness Falls C
Final Destination B
Final Destination B+
28 Days Later A
The Eye D And I cant believe how many people talk this movie up.It did nothing for me and I traded it in at Blockbuster to get another movie cheaper.

!MorganOnyx!
04-30-2004, 08:58 AM
I'm surprised that there are so many people hated DARKNESS FALLS. I can understand people not liking it because of the poor dialogue, cardboard characters etc. But the villain was fantastic. I genuinely found her to be quite scary and NOTHING scares me! Maybe I should watch it again? But I just don't think I'll change my mind because with alot of poor horror movies it's the villain that makes it worthwhile. The opening scene was brilliant. And yes, the film suffers whenever THE TOOTH FAIRY wasn't around, but when she did pop up I was on the edge of my seat.

Funny shit.:(

slasherfan
04-30-2004, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by !MorganOnyx!
I'm surprised that there are so many people hated DARKNESS FALLS. I can understand people not liking it because of the poor dialogue, cardboard characters etc. But the villain was fantastic. I genuinely found her to be quite scary and NOTHING scares me! Maybe I should watch it again? But I just don't think I'll change my mind because with alot of poor horror movies it's the villain that makes it worthwhile. The opening scene was brilliant. And yes, the film suffers whenever THE TOOTH FAIRY wasn't around, but when she did pop up I was on the edge of my seat.

Funny shit.:(

I didn't find her scary at all, all she did was yank people off screen for christs sake.

Elgyn
04-30-2004, 10:19 PM
She was basically Ghostface with a rocketpack.

Schnapps
05-01-2004, 12:56 AM
I thought THEY had a great beginning, I wish they would make a movie that held that tone through out the whole film. Play on our old childhood fears of what's in the closet or under the bed.

!MorganOnyx!
05-06-2004, 08:52 AM
I think I've got a thing about scary old women then!!! THE WOMAN IN BLACK is the sacriest film I've ever seen, and she haunted me for years as a kid. I also found THE LADY IN WHITE very unsettling too, until I actually saw the woman in question. The threat of her appearing scared the shit out of me!!

Maybe if THE TOOTH FAIRY was a geezer, I'd probably think it was just GHOSTFACE with a rocket pack!! LOL

!MorganOnyx!
05-06-2004, 08:54 AM
THE WOMAN IN BLACK is the 'scariest' film I've seen, not the fucking 'sacriest'!!! You see!! Just thinking about it has me shaking like a lil' bitch so much I can't type!! :eek: