Get ready for ALIEN 5 w/ you guessed it....JAMES CAMERON + Arnold + Sigourney! [Archive]

Hell Phantom

07-07-2003, 09:12 PM

ah....

not to interested....I don't really want another "ALIENS" I really want for an aliens movie is: A prequel and ALIENS VS. PREDATOR

Arnold in an alien movie? Well....it could work but I care nothing to see it. I love arnie and all but I don't want him in an Alien movie. He should go make a Predator 3

After Alien: Resserection I wanted a prequel to the Alien series...cause I wasn't into the cloned Ripley thing.

Oh yeah...I happened to have LOVED ALIEN3 fuck you James Cameron ya fuckin BUM! Excuss me if I offended anyone from that...but Cameron isn't a fav of mine...since what has he done in the last 6 or 7 years...pretty much nothing....I want Ridley Scott to take on another ALIEN movie

I know most of the schomes are going to the love this news....I for one....don't really like it....and so far...it seems to be just a rumor, nothing official anyways

Elgyn

07-07-2003, 10:54 PM

We`ll see if this ever happens.....
Remember when Ridley Scott was gonna make an "Alien" prequel?

JayWolf

07-07-2003, 10:56 PM

I have to agree with Hell Phantom here. I like ALIEN 3 because it had a harsh reality call in it. Plus, it expanded further on the Ripley character. It also showed just how vulernable she was, how strong her connections were to characters, and how she managed to withstand it as well. We learned so much about it. It really had this dark vibe that reality has a lot of the time. I loved that. It felt very believable. However, T3 and ALIEN: RESURRECTION didn't feel that way to me. They just feel like eye candy and nothing more. I'm not too big on this news myself.

Not to mention ALIEN 3 had 30 minutes cut from it.

Hell Phantom

07-07-2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by JayWolf
Not to mention ALIEN 3 had 30 minutes cut from it.

I hope those extra 30 minutes are on the 9-disc set...

Invincible

07-07-2003, 11:46 PM

Alien 3 did suck.

JayWolf

07-07-2003, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
Alien 3 did suck.

In your opinion, why did it suck? I'm just curious. You don't really make it clear why you think so and I'd like some clarification.

Invincible

07-07-2003, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by JayWolf
In your opinion, why did it suck? I'm just curious. You don't really make it clear why you think so and I'd like some clarification.

Cuz they killed off Bishop and Hicks. But overall I didn't enjoy it, just like you didnt with T3. fair enough?

JayWolf

07-07-2003, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
Cuz they killed off Bishop and Hicks. But overall I didn't enjoy it, just like you didnt with T3. fair enough?

I guess so. I don't know, but I just loved it's ballsy approach. The character of Ripley also felt very expanded upon. It had a great dark vibe to it that also seemed quite reality based. I just loved that. I saw it when I was 7, too. It kept a special place in my heart since. I didn't even cry at the end. It did feel like the saga was completed. I loved ALIEN 3 since, and always will.

filmstud3

07-08-2003, 12:51 AM

alien 3 was very good. i thought they did a good job and took the series in a good, albeit, different direction. what did you want? a repeat of aliens? horror fans, us, always complain about the lack of originality and sequels repeating the other films in the series.
alien 3 actually did its own thing and was a very dark ending to the saga and that movie should have ended the trilogy and there should NOT have been RESURRECTION.
kudos to fincher for having the guts to be original and making me sob like a lil girl at ripley's ending.

ERIN_LoJ

07-08-2003, 04:36 AM

This has to be one of the best and original sagas of all time. Alien has some genuine scary as hell moments - and I DON'T say that about a lot of movies. The only series I have the box set to.

If arnold showed up in 5 - while I have nothing against him personally - then I think, I really really think, it would be bye bye Erin. : ) Massive stroke. Dead at a young age. In front of the TV or computer upon reading the news.

Fettdog

07-08-2003, 08:29 AM

I'm another Alien3 lover! I thought it was a bold move to kill off Newt and Hicks (even though I would have liked to have seen where the story would have gone with them in ti), but it did heighten Ripley's sense of isolation, particularly on a planet full of men.

Fincher directed it with style and produced an effective little movie (even if he doesn't like the final cut, but hopefully the Quadrology will have his original cut on it, or at least contain the deleted scenes). The alien was sufficiently different from the first two films, and the whole feel of the movie was new to the series. I love the first two movies with a passion, but what didn't want with Alien3 was a rehash of either of them - they're both classics in their own right and to try and emulate them would have been a mistake.

As for Resurrection, the less said the better - a messy film that tainted what should have been a great trilogy.

Also, I can't see Arnie doing an Aliens film anytime soon - in this month's Empire magazine he is raving about several projects that he has on the go, including a new Conan movie, sequels to True Lies and Total Recall, and a possible T4, as well as his long-cherished Crusades project. At a movie a year that's Arnie tied up for the next five years, by which time he'll be pushing 60! :)

As ever, though, we'll wait and see................ :)

Hell Phantom

07-08-2003, 01:40 PM

I for some reason...can not picture arnie in an Alien movie....it would be to weird, then again...maybe it could work...I don' think he will be in it...

Oh yeah.... I can see how Alien 3 can be hated...I use to hate it but now its my Fav out of the series :D

I don't care that they killed off Newt and Hicks....I didn't really care for them anyways, I watch Alien movies for: of course, the ALIENS! And Ripley...my all time fav herion!
Which I got in Alien 3 and what makes it even better is that I like dark, depressing movies which Alien3 was! What more could I ask for?

pyscho dude

07-08-2003, 01:52 PM

Alien3 is great James is a sissy. I mean he used to be one of my favorite directors then he got all sissy and emotional and made titanic and that stupid dark angel series(oh how long did that last, not too long). I think they should forget about alien 5 and focus more on alien vs predator.

Invincible

07-08-2003, 02:34 PM

Scythemantis

07-08-2003, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by JayWolf
In your opinion, why did it suck? I'm just curious. You don't really make it clear why you think so and I'd like some clarification.

It sucked because it was a rehash of the first. One alien in cramped quarters. It's an OK movie, but it was not neccessary.

Giger had designed a much more complex alien for 3 but they didn't use it. It was going to fuse metal and body parts to itself.

Look, when you have one movie to introduce the alien and one movie to introduce a whole hive with a queen, the third is supposed to get bigger. In my opinion both 3 and Ressurection were pointless and it downright saddens me that the effort wasn't put into the one thing everyone has been waiting to see....aliens, meet earth. Earth, meet aliens. To those saying he should do a prequel: GOD NO!!! The first movie was as far back as any plot needed to go. What could a prequel possibly be!? An invasion of earth or a fight against predators are the only two places the films haven't gone that would be worth going.

It's important to note, however, that James Cameron said he'd only be involved in another Aliens movie if it is agreed that an "Aliens vs. Predator" will never exist. So, as far as that's concerned, if this thread's info is accurate James has eternally screwed us over. We will never see them duke it out on the big screen for as long as any of us live.

JayWolf

07-08-2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
Remember Predator ?

....Alien would be no different...

But that was PREDATOR. A totally different series, my friend. It would be VERY different. PREDATOR and TERMINATOR are Arnie's series. ALIEN is Weaver's hands-down.

RogueSpear

07-08-2003, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
Remember Predator ?

....Alien would be no different...

Actually, I think it would be. Predator had a much different feel to it than any of the Alien movies.

I don't know, I just can't picture Arnold in one of those movies. Maybe it's because I've never really care for the Alien saga. Personally, I'd much rather see him move onto some of the other movies he has on his plate.

Xipe Totec

07-08-2003, 04:27 PM

I wouldn`t have anything against more terminator, predator, alien movies, but Arnold and Sigourny should really retire....

countchocula

07-08-2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Scythemantis
Look, when you have one movie to introduce the alien and one movie to introduce a whole hive with a queen, the third is supposed to get bigger.

Instead of getting "bigger," why can't sequels just get...better? There is a difference. In a sense, Alien 3 was "bigger." It expanded the storyline and introduced a fresh batch of characters (granted, most of them weren't well-developed). I enjoyed a return to the series' moody, claustrophobic roots. It could have easily been a hollow blockbuster, but Fincher opted to keep things intimate.

I don't see this Arnold/xenomorph collaboration coming into fruition. And frankly, I wouldn't want it to come into fruition. Let Ripley and Dutch do battle with their respective extraterrestrial adversaries, and leave it at that. Arnold would be an eyesore in an Alien film.

tightywhitey411

07-08-2003, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Hell Phantom
I for some reason...can not picture arnie in an Alien movie....it would be to weird, then again...maybe it could work...I don' think he will be in it...

i agree, think of it this way, can anyone picture Sigourney Weaver in a predator movie??? They should both stay in their own series. Arnie should kick predator ass and Sigourney should kick alien ass.Iif you want to unite them put both of them in Aliens vs. Predator!

TheAxeGrinder

07-08-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by JayWolf
I guess so. I don't know, but I just loved it's ballsy approach. The character of Ripley also felt very expanded upon. It had a great dark vibe to it that also seemed quite reality based. I just loved that. I saw it when I was 7, too. It kept a special place in my heart since. I didn't even cry at the end. It did feel like the saga was completed. I loved ALIEN 3 since, and always will.

I have to agree with you, JayWolf. Alien 3 tried something different and was successful in many people's eyes, despised by others. But you can't please 'em all, can you. True, killing three likeable characters right off the bat screws the fans but it is redeemed by the rest of the movie. Like The Arrow, I felt that this series ended with Ripley jumping into the molten lead. Stupid Jean-Pierre Jeunet, and who the hell saw The City Of Lost Children anyways?

Elgyn

07-08-2003, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by TheAxeGrinder

Stupid Jean-Pierre Jeunet, and who the hell saw The City Of Lost Children anyways?

It was pretty good actually! So was "Delicatessen".
Though Jeunet shouldn`t have been hired for an "Alien" movie.....for one thing he doesn`t even understand much English....um hello Fox, didn`t they ever think about that fact? It`s hard to direct a movie when you don`t understand the script or what your actors are saying!
But "Resurrection"`s problems began with the 'been-there-done-that' script by Joss Whedon.

thirdeye

07-08-2003, 06:33 PM

Stupid Jean-Pierre Jeunet, and who the hell saw The City Of Lost Children anyways?

Me , and i loved it.

But Alien:Ressurrection was my least favorite of the series (i agree it should have ended with 3)

Hell Phantom

07-08-2003, 07:59 PM

Good to know there are more Alein3 fans in here, I heard that Alien3 did fucking awsome in Europe when it came out.

Back to the subject: Arnie in an aliens movie...
Yes he was in Predator but I think that's why diffrent. Although he was in Total Recall which had him in space, I still don't want Arnie up there with a good old Alien.

Picture this:
"Ah! It's a big scary insect-thingy! Oh Fauk! Let's...uh kill it with our neato guns Weav...I MEAN! Ripley! Yah!"

Sorry...to many MADTV spoofs of Arnold...hahahha gotta luv the arnie and his accent

but instead of Arnie in a Alien sequel....how about Arnie in a Kindergarten Cop II!!!!!!!! :D

"Who is your daddy? And what does he do?"

blankpage

07-08-2003, 11:32 PM

I was never a fan of Alien 3 or 4 that much. The original two will forever be the best. But I think this sounds interesting. If Cameron, Arnold, and Sigourney actually decide to do this, then I'm there! It would make for a very interesting movie. Plus, Cameron said it would be something like Aliens....niiiiice.

Donnie_Darko

07-09-2003, 01:00 AM

BOOOOOOOOOO... what's Ahnold gonna play? The fucking Alien that fights on the side of the humans? Ghey... http://mysmilies.creativesell.net/otn/blobs/blk_md_wht.gif

Invincible

07-09-2003, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Donnie_Darko
BOOOOOOOOOO... what's Ahnold gonna play? The fucking Alien that fights on the side of the humans? Ghey... http://mysmilies.creativesell.net/otn/blobs/blk_md_wht.gif

Silence!! how dare you say such thing about Arnold!

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"Never, in any of my movies, have I ever had anybody tell me what I have to do."

--Jonathan Mostow--

tightywhitey411

07-09-2003, 01:50 AM

Aliens Quadrilogy info!!!!!!!!!!!

This is what we'll get: two versions of Aliens (theatrical version and director's cut version), full version (2.50 hours!!) of Alien3, Alien Resurrection with alternate openings and endings, and 3 hours of extra material on the ninth disc. There is no mention on Alien, but speculation has arisen that the "new" theatrical version, which is being released in cinemas soon, will be the one we'll get (most likely as an alternative to the regular version). Thanks to Sadogoat.

i dont know if the source is reliable but if this is true this is fuckin awesome!!! a directors cut of aliens 2 and a half hours long?!? oh HELL YEA!! Steverno should be drooling right now lol :)

Hicks

07-09-2003, 01:58 AM

Is that director's cut version of Aliens the same as the special edition??

tightywhitey411

07-09-2003, 01:58 AM

this site http://www.avpnews.com/ is awesome if your an alien or predator fan and its got a plot summary for AvP if youre interested...

tightywhitey411

07-09-2003, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Hicks
Is that director's cut version of Aliens the same as the special edition??

im not sure hicks, i havent seen the special edition, but you can read the full article if that helps. there is also news that they are redoing some scenes for alien resurrection, for better or worse.

Boogeyman

07-09-2003, 02:51 PM

Aliens/ Alien 3 Spoilers....

I was pissed because Alien 3 totally destoryed Aliens. It diminshed the ending to nothing. So everytime I see Aliens I cant help but think...Dont fight too hard Ripley, they're all gonna be dead in a few hours. She worked so hard for jack shit.

later

JayWolf

07-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Well, life is like that. Sometimes life sticks things in and break it off BIG time. That's what I loved about it. It was ballsy, dark reality based, really expanded on Ripley as a character, and it was very creepy, that she had to face this until she died. I appauled the movie for that, and I was seven! Besides, the girl who played Newt was too old now, and Weaver and Beihn didn't get along so well.

Mr. Movie Man

07-09-2003, 03:33 PM

I also would prefer not to have Arnold in an Alien sequel. A Predator sequel would be much more fitting for Arnold, and Maybe McT could come back to direct. I actually like James Cameron, despite his bad reputation, and the fact that he can't hide his stuntmen very well. Despite all of his movie falts, he is a very good director and a master at capturing action. Yeah, he hasn't done much in a while, but he's gonna be shooting True Lies 2 pretty soon since the script is already done, so that should be good. The first one had a lot of problems, but I thought that it was a pretty damm good movie. After he finishes a movie, he should use cgi(it usually looks great for this procedure) to erase the faces of his stuntmen and stuntwomen, and then he should place the actor or actresses face in their spot. That way the experience will be perfect. True Lies shows Arnold's stuntman even more than T2 did. Not good! Cameron's only bad movie was Pirahna 2

WamphyriNate

07-10-2003, 02:30 AM

I personally don't want to see Arnie in an Alien movie. Another Predator? That would be cool. James Cameron doing another Alien movie could be really cool. And damn, lots of Alien3 bashing around here! Throw rocks if you want, but I thought Alien3 kicked ass. The dark, depressing mood of the film was what i thought made it stand out. And man, and I eagerly await the boxed set of the Alien movies, way too cool.

Shadow Whisper

07-10-2003, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by JayWolf
Well, life is like that. Sometimes life sticks things in and break it off BIG time. That's what I loved about it. It was ballsy, dark reality based, really expanded on Ripley as a character, and it was very creepy, that she had to face this until she died. I appauled the movie for that, and I was seven! Besides, the girl who played Newt was too old now, and Weaver and Beihn didn't get along so well.

It was not ballsy it was it was half-assed. Correction, half-assed is too high of a standard for Alien 3 to have ever have remotely reached. If I wanted to watch a movie about how life screws people I would have watch Mask or Silkwood. Or if it had been out back then Titanic, and could I have gotten the same boring, depressing, predictable experince of Alien 3 without the expectaion of seeing a horror movie.

Oh well to each their own.

As for arnold apearing in an aliens, I dont have anything against it but I also dont think that having him in the aliens series would add anything special to it either.

Given the shear amount of writen material that has been put out for Aliens, Predator, and Aliens vs Predator I see a great deal of potential for all three movie series (if AvsP is not DOA).

Hicks

07-10-2003, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by JayWolf
Besides, the girl who played Newt was too old now, and Weaver and Beihn didn't get along so well.

Where did you hear that Weaver and Beihn didn't get along?

ERIN_LoJ

07-10-2003, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Elgyn
It was pretty good actually! So was "Delicatessen".
Though Jeunet shouldn`t have been hired for an "Alien" movie.....for one thing he doesn`t even understand much English....um hello Fox, didn`t they ever think about that fact? It`s hard to direct a movie when you don`t understand the script or what your actors are saying!
But "Resurrection"`s problems began with the 'been-there-done-that' script by Joss Whedon.

Yeah I wasn't crazy about the scripter, who later went on to do the Buffy the Vampire slayer series. Really the idea wasn't that bad. I liked Sigourneys new "powers" like the acid/blood dna combining. I just didnt like her new personality.

Invincible

07-10-2003, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Movie Man
Cameron's only bad movie was Pirahna 2

He never fully shot the movie, he only did the models, then he was replaced by someone else, but cuz of rights or something they put his name as a director. So practically it isnt his movie.

Cronos

07-11-2003, 01:17 PM

I'd only like another Alien film if it went into detail about where the aliens came from and who the pilots were on the Nostromo and why they were transporting the aliens

that would be pretty kool

Scythemantis

07-12-2003, 12:52 AM

I'd rather not know, really. A weird-as-hell ship with a weird-as-hell dead crew is found from some unfathomable corner of the universe and harbors an unbelievably hideous parasitic being of amazing power. That's the kind of thing that would be cheapened by any further information.

I do recall Giger giving a bit of info on them, though. He said that the aliens are only as big a threat to them as our earthly wild beasts are to us. Makes you think.

Cronos

07-12-2003, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by Scythemantis
I do recall Giger giving a bit of info on them, though. He said that the aliens are only as big a threat to them as our earthly wild beasts are to us. Makes you think.

wasn't that only a guess on his part though

although that would kidnda make sense