UK Schmoes - Recent BBFC Certifications

[Scully1888]

Just been checking out bbfc.co.uk to see what the newest films have been rated. no Freddy Vs Jason yet, but here's what's been given what:

HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES - 18 (88mins 38secs, no cuts)
CABIN FEVER - 15 (92mins 53secs, no cuts)
JEEPERS CREEPERS 2 - 15 (103mins 58secs, no cuts)

I know, it's not a lot, but it's still 3 good films, and it;s good to see that HO1KC won't be cut any further than it already was.

[Cronos]

Good to here no more cuts will be made to HO1KC, is this actually gonna get a cinema release??

from what ive seen of it, id have thought cabin fever would have been an 18

cant wait for them to be released

[Richard Stuart]

Good news that none of them are going to be cut. The BBFC seem to have lightened up a little in recent years.

[Type_A]

Anybody know when these three films are being released? I noticed that all THREE of these movies are playing at the Fright Fest film festival from 22-25 August. I would probably make the effort to go see them, but not if there just going to be released nationwide a couple of week later. BTW, if anyone's interested the website is http://www.frightfest.co.uk. The line-up is pretty good (better than last year), with Jeepers Creepers 2, Cabin Fever and HOATC being the highlights. The only film not on the list that i would have liked to have seen is Freddy Vs Jason.

[iDLEWiLD_fan]

i'm shocked about the Cabin Fever gettin a 15 i've seen some pics from the flick and it looks pretty gruesome

[Fettdog]

Originally posted by iDLEWiLD_fan
i'm shocked about the Cabin Fever gettin a 15 i've seen some pics from the flick and it looks pretty gruesome

I must admit that I'm not actually that shocked with their decision - the BBFC seem to be lightening up lately on horror films and recognising that they are actually 'fun' as opposed to being the harbingers of doom for society!

I also hope that all of these films gt a cinema release - I'm hopefully going to get along to see a couple of them at Frightfest, but it's always better seeing horror films on a big screen.

[JCR]

I'm a little disappointed at cabin fever, the edinburgh programme makes it out to be really bad I pay £7.50 for a ticket and now I find out it's a 15! Sigh...

Of course one would assume that sometime in the next couple of months a bbfc decision on ken park will be required, and that will be interesting

H1000C is out on 10th October. The other 2 are TBC. (Although Jeepers Creepers UK box office was HUGE- it outperformed the Julia Roberts rom com America's sweethearts that was out at the same time (!), and took around £6 million, so you can be pretty sure the sequel is getting a cinema release here.)

[ANTBond007]

I'm kind of shocked Jeepers Creepers 2 made it to the 100 minute point. That's fairly long for a slasher sequel.

[Type_A]

Thanks JCR for the heads up on the release dates. I think i'll make a point of seeing Cabin Fever at Fright Fest, because i have a feeling it will go straight to video over here after keeping us waiting for months.

Any news on May?

[Scully1888]

Update: Jeepers Creeper 2 comes out in the the UK on August 29th (a week after Freddy Vs Jason & Tomb Raider 2), and... bad news:

May will not be getting a big-screen release.

(Relatively) Good news:

It appears that May is now out for DVD rental, with a retail version coming out next month (as a Virgin exclusive).

[iDLEWiLD_fan]

i read on the BBC film calendar thing that

Freddy Vs Jason is out 22nd Aug

and

House Of 1000 Corpses is out 3rd Oct

and

Cabin Fever is out 17th Oct

and

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (remake) is out 17th Oct

but don't hold me to that cause BBC's release dates sometimes change...

[Type_A]

Thanks Scully, for the JC2 & FvsJ release dates. Looks like it's not worth paying extra to see it at Fright Fest. Saved myself a few bucks then. Might see Cabin Fever though.

Oh, and thanks for the May info.....i'll take that as good news. It didn't strike me as a BIG SCREEN movie anyway, not in the same way that FvsJ is. And thanks for not lecturing me on reading all topics. I released after asking when May was being released that their was a whole topic devoted to that very question. MUST.LEARN.TO.READ.BEFORE.COMMENTING.

[JCR]

According to www.melonfarmers.co.uk the bbfc have passed Lucio Fulci's A cat in the brain (nightmare concert) uncut. Which is quite surprising considering they rejected it completely in 1999.

[iDLEWiLD_fan]

*UPDATES*

these two dates have changed...


Freddy Vs Jason is now out 15th Aug

&

Cabin Fever is now out 10th Oct

[JCR]

FvsJ is 22nd august in the uk according to the official site.

I'm not sure how much point there is talking about release dates for anything except the immediate future (the next month or so). They shift around too frequently

[slasherfan]

Bad news UK schmoes.
Freddy Vs Jason - (90mins 2 minutes 43 seconds of cuts to remove scenes of strong graphic violence and strong graphic sexual violence)
Sucks huh :(

[Luke-Abbott]

Originally posted by slasherfan
Bad news UK schmoes.
Freddy Vs Jason - (90mins 2 minutes 43 seconds of cuts to remove scenes of strong graphic violence and strong graphic sexual violence)
Sucks huh :(

It not only sucks.....but it p!sses on the real reason this movie was made. All the Nightmares and Fridays have had strong graphic violence with strong graphic sexual violence (ex. Jason Goes To Hell).

I just don't understand these days, life has definitly changed since the 80's :( (rating wise).

[Xipe Totec]

Guys, because I`m not holding my breath for HO1C to come to Estonia (I don´t actually beleave it even coming on video anytime soon), I`m interested when the Region 2 DVD comes out....Anyone know anything of that...?

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by slasherfan
Bad news UK schmoes.
Freddy Vs Jason - (90mins 2 minutes 43 seconds of cuts to remove scenes of strong graphic violence and strong graphic sexual violence)
Sucks huh :(

Sorry Schmoes, you have been fooled by slasherfan. He tried to trick me with this on MSN Messenger too. The BBFC have yet to certify FvJ and it's unlikely it'll be cut, it's more likely to be a straight 18.

If Irreversible can be uncut, this can too.

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by Xipe Totec
Guys, because I`m not holding my breath for HO1C to come to Estonia (I don´t actually beleave it even coming on video anytime soon), I`m interested when the Region 2 DVD comes out....Anyone know anything of that...?

Needless to say, it won't be for a long time yet, considering it doesn't hit UK cinemas until 3rd October.

I'd guess about Feb 2004.

[Psychocandy]

Other than the not wholly unexpected (but disappointing nonetheless) snips to Ichi The Killer and the few seconds removed from Fudoh (thus rendering it impossible for me to buy as I refuse to buy any movie that is cut even slightly) the BBFC have kinda wandered into my cool books over the last couple of years. They are far from the draconian organisation of several years ago. I actually think there is a chance that Freddy Vs Jason could follow Cabin Fever and receive a 15 cert.

[JCR]

I'm actually surprised they didn't reject Ichi completely. Alas I have to admit that to my shame, I bought the cut version of fudoh but I have to say it's quite well done in that it's not clear which scenes been cut, unlike all those vipco releases where it is. (and indeed it's interesting how far the bbfc have moved, a couple of years ago I think fudoh would have been rejected as well).

I wouldn't be suprised if FvsJ was a 15 either. I would hope it is. I mean come on, at 16 you can join the army and therefore feasibly get your bollocks blown off for Britain in Iraq, but you are not allowed to listen to freddys silly one liners? That's just stupid.

[JCR]

FREDDY VS. JASON
Feature Film
Classified 30 July, 2003 . Run Time 97m 17s


http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif


Expected to open on 15/08/2003

Advice for consumers
Concise Contains strong language, bloody violence and horror

The main spoken language in this work is English.
The BBFC has placed this work in the HORROR genre(s).

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 97m 17s. The running time of this film was calculated from the measured length of 8754+14 ( feet + frames ).

This work was passed with no cuts made.

At the time of classification Entertainment Film Dists Ltd was the distributor of this film.

Directed by Ronny Yu

Producer(s) Sean S. Cunningham

The cast for this work includes: Robert Englund, Monica Keener.


Alas freddy's one liners are to much for all the 17 year olds in the uk according to the bbfc. Except yesterday I witnessed the TX put a fist through a guys belly with gory results in a cinema which had several under 10s in it. Go figure. :rolleyes:

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by JCR
FREDDY VS. JASON

http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif

Expected to open on 15/08/2003


FUCK YES!!!

Gotta say, that sucks for some of you younger UK Schmoes, but for us older schmoes it tells us what we wanted to hear... that this film will be fucking packed with tits, ass and gore!

(US fans who don't know how important an 18 is... Final Destination 2 only got a 15 rating).

[Cronos]

Originally posted by JCR
FREDDY VS. JASON
Feature Film
Classified 30 July, 2003 . Run Time 97m 17s


http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif


Expected to open on 15/08/2003



YES :D

this is just what i wanted to hear, ill definitely be seeing this, cant wait

[JCR]

It appears the version of temple of doom paramount has just submitted to the bbfc for the forthcoming uk dvd release is the same heavily cut for a PG version we've always had. Yarbles.

[Luke-Abbott]

Originally posted by JCR
FREDDY VS. JASON
Feature Film
Classified 30 July, 2003 . Run Time 97m 17s


http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif


Expected to open on 15/08/2003

Hell yeah!!! I turn 18 when this film opens so eitherway I would have been able to see it but still, this is very good news. This is definitly what I wanted to hear :D

[Psychocandy]

You want to see an absolute fucking stunner of a recent BBFC decision. Eric Stanze's Scrapbook has been shorn of an unbelievable 15+ minutes in order to achieve an 18 certificate.

SCRAPBOOK

Video
Feature
Classified 25 July, 2003
Run Time 79m 38s

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif

Some cuts substituted,
Advice for consumers
Concise Contains very strong language, violence and sexualised violence.
Language Some, very strong
Sex/Nudity Very strong references
Violence Some, strong, sexual
Other Some strong horror

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 94m 56s.


To obtain this category cuts of 15m 24s were required. The cuts were Compulsory.
Cuts required to remove sexual assault and humiliation, and sexualised violence, to obtain an '18' in accordance with BBFC guidelines and policy.

[JCR]

The only surprise there is they didn't reject it completely. There's a whole big story leading up to that which is detailed on melonfarmers and www.sexgoremutants.co.uk . I believe the distributor, cryptkeeper was selling unrated uncut copies over the net here. The bbfc found out and put their filthy lawyers on the case. :mad:

[Psychocandy]

Originally posted by JCR
The only surprise there is they didn't reject it completely. There's a whole big story leading up to that which is detailed on melonfarmers and www.sexgoremutants.co.uk . I believe the distributor, cryptkeeper was selling unrated uncut copies over the net here. The bbfc found out and put their filthy lawyers on the case. :mad:

Yeah...I read about that. I'm actually interested in seeing this movie. I heard it's a "one time watch" sort of deal but being a fan of bleak and nasty little movies and having an interest in directors who push the envelope with regards to what is acceptable it's really a no-brainer for me. 15 minutes is a lot of cuts. I get the distinct feeling that it may have been a result of the BBCF punishing Crypt Keeper for trying to give them the finger. It's obvious from reviews that i've read that the movie contains a lot of material that the BBFC would find objectionable...but 15 fucking minutes is a lot. I guess an uncut release of I Spit On Your Corpse, I Piss On Your Grave is out of the question. :D

[PsychoFreak]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JCR
[B]FREDDY VS. JASON
Feature Film
Classified 30 July, 2003 . Run Time 97m 17s


http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif


Expected to open on 15/08/2003




SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM ONLY 13! HOW AM I GONNA WAIT 3 MONTHS FOR A RENTAL FOR IT??! SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT

[iDLEWiLD_fan]

Originally posted by PsychoFreak
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JCR
[B]FREDDY VS. JASON
Feature Film
Classified 30 July, 2003 . Run Time 97m 17s


http://www.bbfc.org.uk/icons/bbfc/182003.gif


Expected to open on 15/08/2003




SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM ONLY 13! HOW AM I GONNA WAIT 3 MONTHS FOR A RENTAL FOR IT??! SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT

oh man thats hard luck, sorry man.......

but...

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO A FUCKIN 18....YESSSSSSSS CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS...I'M SOOO FUCKIN GLAD IT DIDNT END UP BEING A 15!! :D:D:D

now i gotta talk my g/f into seeing this instead of American Pie: The Wedding....

plus...WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO I KNEW I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE RELEASE DATE CHANGING TO THE 15TH!! BRY WAS RIGHT!! :D:D...ALL HAIL BRY....ok i'm gettin a lil to outta control....one more "woohoo" tho........WOOOOOHOOOOO!!! ....:D

[JCR]

Originally posted by iDLEWiLD_fan
plus...WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO I KNEW I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE RELEASE DATE CHANGING TO THE 15TH!! BRY WAS RIGHT!! :D:D...ALL HAIL BRY....ok i'm gettin a lil to outta control....one more "woohoo" tho........WOOOOOHOOOOO!!! ....:D


Yes..but seeing as the most obvious reason for the studio to release here on the same day as the usa is that they think the film's crap and they want to get it into as many screens as possible before bad word of mouth gets round the internet...are you sure this is a good thing?

[iDLEWiLD_fan]

Originally posted by JCR
Yes..but seeing as the most obvious reason for the studio to release here on the same day as the usa is that they think the film's crap and they want to get it into as many screens as possible before bad word of mouth gets round the internet...are you sure this is a good thing?

i believe its a good thing yes....since i get to see it the same time as the US instead of having to wait a few months till its out here in the UK.....plus....i'm going with the horror fans on this one....i've read numerous reviews for the film made by horror fans who have been to test screenings and they all loved it....so WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO....15TH!!!...very very very good thing!

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by JCR
the most obvious reason for the studio to release here on the same day as the usa is that they think the film's crap and they want to get it into as many screens as possible before bad word of mouth gets round the internet

I don't think that's the most obvious reason. I think two more obvious reasons are:

1) - That there is a strong horror following in the UK and New Line believes they should not have to wait any longer than anyone else.

2) - That the ending is so interesting it'll be spoiled comewhere on the net when it's released in the US and word of mouth will eventually ruin it for a lot of UK fans.

[JCR]

Originally posted by Scully1888
I don't think that's the most obvious reason. I think two more obvious reasons are:

1) - That there is a strong horror following in the UK and New Line believes they should not have to wait any longer than anyone else.

2) - That the ending is so interesting it'll be spoiled comewhere on the net when it's released in the US and word of mouth will eventually ruin it for a lot of UK fans.

Oh I'm just trying to be controversial :D The same day release is a little strange, although I can't claim to know what goes through the minds of the studio people. I'm not even sure the studio people know what is going through the minds of the studio people.

Cabin fever has been, rather strangely, put through the bbfc again with 35 seconds removed- it is now 92m 18s as opposed to 92m 53 seconds. Whats up with that? What is in those missing 35 seconds?

[slasherfan]

Originally posted by JCR

Cabin fever has been, rather strangely, put through the bbfc again with 35 seconds removed- it is now 92m 18s as opposed to 92m 53 seconds. Whats up with that? What is in those missing 35 seconds?

could hopfully PLEASE GOD!!!! Be a video rating, video and cinema tend to be a little shorter in running time.
Or maybe the director wanted to make a last minute change to the ending or something and sent them a new print, you never know. The BBFC didn't cut ti anyway so we shouldn't bash them.

[Scully1888]

Maybe the uncut one's the version being shown at the Edinburgh Film Festival and the other one in London which I seem to hav forgotten, and maybe the slightly cut one's the theatrical one.

Just a guess though.

[britbrit]

cabin fever was resubmitted after several changes, re-edits by the film maker. The BBFC made NO cuts.

As for FvJ i think i can go in with my dad. I'm 17, 18 in 3 months so hopefully i'll get it. :) can't wait. New line have a lot of connections to the UK...so all these films are released very soon afta or the same time as the US

Lord of the Rings
Final Destination 2
FvJ

[scottish-movie-freak]

I know I'm not really a horror schmoe as such but I would just like to say...HELL YEAH! :)

I'm not exactly 18 but I never seem to have trouble getting into 18s (saw Wrong Turn a few weeks ago, loved it). I would of loved to have seen Cabin Fever at the EIFF but its past my bedtime, I'll just have to wait for the general release. Can someone enlighten me, when is the general release date?

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by scottish-movie-freak
Can someone enlighten me, when is the general release date?

According to the BBFC site it's opening here on 10/10/03.

[JCR]

Originally posted by Scully1888
I don't think that's the most obvious reason. I think two more obvious reasons are:

2) - That the ending is so interesting it'll be spoiled comewhere on the net when it's released in the US and word of mouth will eventually ruin it for a lot of UK fans.


Just a couple of late thoughts on this.

1. New line clearly doesn't care about the ending leaking or they wouldn't have let AICN hold a screening a week early (that lot are hardly renouned for keeping their mouths shut are they?)

2. I don't think the end leaking would have that much effect on the box office. Maybe among casual viewers, but if the ending leaked on the net, it would probably be mostly read by hardcore fans who'd go anyway. I'd go even if I knew the ending. Hell I know how return of the king is gonna end and I'll probably end up watching that several times at the cinema.

[JCR]

Not horror but I was slightly amused/saddened to note that thirteen ( http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60125 ) has been given an 18 by the bbfc. Meaning the 2 leads are a long way off being legally allowed to watch their film here. :rolleyes:

[JCR]

The rules of attraction has been, ahem, slashed-

THE RULES OF ATTRACTION Video Feature Cert 18
Classified 27 August, 2003 . Run Time 106m 23s

Widescreen, Cuts substituted,

To obtain this category cuts of 1m 34s were required., some or all of these cuts were substitutions. The cuts were Compulsory.
A cut was required to a scene in which a teenage girl slits her wrists, on the grounds that the technique used is not widely known and is potentially more likely to result in death than the more common method, in line with the Video Recordings Act 1984, and BBFC Guidelines and Policy

Seems a little pointless to me, but I'm sure you've heard all the arguements against this a million times. The filmmakers must be delighted the most powerful scene in the film's gone!

[Golden Ghost]

Originally posted by JCR
A cut was required to a scene in which a teenage girl slits her wrists, on the grounds that the technique used is not widely known and is potentially more likely to result in death than the more common method, in line with the Video Recordings Act 1984, and BBFC Guidelines and Policy


That is really pathetic. So, that cut will be made for the DVD release? That was the films highlight. It was such an emotional point in the film. "The technique used is not widely known" (?!) Only dozens of people suffer from cutting themselves out of depression or lack of attention.

Stupid wanks.

[scottish-movie-freak]

UNDERWORLD Feature
Film
Classified 02 September, 2003 . Run Time 121m 4s
Certificate 15


Expected to open on 19/09/2003



Advice for consumers
Concise Contains strong violence and language



The main spoken language in this work is English.
The BBFC has placed this work in the HORROR genre(s).


When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 121m 4s.
The running time of this film was calculated from the measured length of 10896+0 ( feet + frames ).


This work was passed with no cuts made.


Yay! :)

[JCR]

Once upon a time in Mexico is a 15 as well, which is a little surprising. These films should be more violent!

[Cronos]

Originally posted by scottish-movie-freak
UNDERWORLD Feature
Film
Classified 02 September, 2003 . Run Time 121m 4s
Certificate 15


for fucks sake, a 15!!!!!!!!

this is gonna suck, i expected it to be an 18, thats a major disappointment now, all the little bratsll go and see it :mad:

im not so sure about this anymore

[JCR]

Alien Resurrection has been downgraded to a 15.

They are making some damn curious decisions at the moment.

[JCR]

Alien Directors Cut has been passed 15 for cinema and 18 for vid/dvd at the same time, making it pretty much as clear as mud which age group they think the film is suitable for. Well done bbfc!

[Scully1888]

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake has been classified 18 for "strong, bloody violence" with no cuts made and a running time of 98:11.

[JCR]

Is it coming out on october 17th?

It's not up on bbfc.co.uk yet, but seeing as I've heard the "Kill Bill. Rated 18." radio ad at least 20 times it's pretty clear kill bill is an 18 :D

Then again, as I said they are making some curious decisions lately; I thought once upon a time in mexico was really violent and was surprised it was a 15. Maybe I'm just getting old.