Will T3 make its reported 175 million budget back? [Archive]

Tom Samborski

07-21-2003, 10:08 PM

The film is already having record openings in other countries of the world, so it will indeed make its budget back internationally. I think T3 was a wise choice for Arnie, considering that his box-office draw was in bad shape the past few years. It has given his career a shot in the arm IMO.

bob

07-21-2003, 10:58 PM

Arnold would have a very hard time making a film that wasn't a monster hit internationally.

jolanar

07-21-2003, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by bob
Arnold would have a very hard time making a film that wasn't a monster hit internationally.

So hes a big hit in other countries huh? Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Anyone know how much it's made internationally so far?

Spidey

07-22-2003, 03:11 AM

T3 still has to be released in several European countries.
I still have to waith till august the 6th.
Life can be unfair....

Jedi

07-22-2003, 08:28 AM

On its current pace it will finish with something like $150-160M. And according to boxofficemojo.com, T3's budget is $200M plus $40M advertising costs.

It will be huge internationally, for sure..

optimus1

07-22-2003, 10:11 AM

I had heard it was 175 + the Ad costs , either way it will be profitable. I watched Total Recall last night and man that was a great movie..I would love to see a sequel :P

Scarface98.9

07-22-2003, 12:49 PM

Arnie's huge overseas, so while it may not've gotten the respect it deserves in the US, the international market will compensate for that. So the gamble they all took payed off

therealjohng

07-22-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by optimus1
I had heard it was 175 + the Ad costs , either way it will be profitable. I watched Total Recall last night and man that was a great movie..I would love to see a sequel :P

If you've seen Minorty Report, then you've seen the "unofficial" sequel....

thompsoncory

07-22-2003, 08:20 PM

It won't make it's budget back domestically, but possibly it will worldwide.

Arathon

07-25-2003, 08:46 PM

Its tough to say. Theres a 50/50 chance of covering its Budget and getting some profit. But most definitely it will gross more around the world in total.

Negrotigre

07-27-2003, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by optimus1
I had heard it was 175 + the Ad costs , either way it will be profitable. I watched Total Recall last night and man that was a great movie..I would love to see a sequel :P

I've heard talk of a sequel to that and true lies, sadly neither has moved forward.

El Negro

KcMsterpce

07-28-2003, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by bob
Arnold would have a very hard time making a film that wasn't a monster hit internationally.

Remember Last Action Hero?

Arnold had a great attitude about that flop! When he went onto David Letterman a little while later to plug the release of True Lies, Letterman asked him if he hoped this movie would be a much better box office draw than Last Action Hero.

Arnold replied something to the effect of, "I don't know what the problem is with people thinking that movie was a flop. It did very well internationally... It had the highest grossing opening weekend ever at the box office in Zimbabwe."

hahaha I laughed my ass of when he said that.

So I guess your statement is correct.

Invincible

07-29-2003, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by KcMsterpce

Arnold replied something to the effect of, "I don't know what the problem is with people thinking that movie was a flop. It did very well internationally... It had the highest grossing opening weekend ever at the box office in Zimbabwe."

hahaha I laughed my ass of when he said that.

LMAO! that's great! :D

Arnold is da man!

Jedi

07-30-2003, 08:22 AM

According to boxofficemojo.com and as for 7/27/2003, T3 has made $224M worldwide and it has dozens of markets waiting for it.So, it pretty much made its budget back already!

PorcheRacer

07-30-2003, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Jedi
According to boxofficemojo.com and as for 7/27/2003, T3 has made $224M worldwide and it has dozens of markets waiting for it.So, it pretty much made its budget back already!

AWESOME news!!!

optimus1

07-30-2003, 10:17 AM

Hmmmm , I am seeing more like 192 million so far...can u please show me where you see that total?

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=terminator3.htm

Jedi

07-30-2003, 12:26 PM

Well, check this:
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/intl.htm :)

Invincible

07-30-2003, 05:12 PM

Great news...Terminator fanbase is more widespread internationally.

optimus1

07-31-2003, 06:44 AM

Thanks Jedi

Jedi

07-31-2003, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by optimus1
Thanks Jedi

You're welcome :) I hope it will soon go past $300M and maybe $400M. I still have to see it, though!

Spidey

07-31-2003, 07:12 AM

Me too , that's another 8 bucks ;)

Alecc Bracero

07-31-2003, 08:12 AM

It will definitely make back it's money internationally, but does that matter? If it doesn't make money off domestic grosses, it is considered a failure. Now, I've said it before, this movie really did not have to be made at all. It's just another cash in sequel like so many other movies this summer. You are asking for trouble when you give a film a $170 million dollar budget. If it doesn't open with $100 million or more, it is not going to recoup it's budget. There is only one sure thing now, American audiences obviously didn't embrace this film like the other Terminators, and therefore there will thankfully not be a fourth film. MAH!

optimus1

07-31-2003, 10:11 AM

Hmm I agree its not gonna make its money back with domestic dollars but you can be pretty sure that if the movie ends up making 300+ million worldwide and then makes another 60 - 100 million on DVD sales there will be a 4th movie...it cost them 220 to make and advertise the movie and 180 million profit is nothing to be ashamed of. The world does not revolve around the USA. Also just think of how many T2 and T1 DVD sales this movie generated. Also add in merchandising and you have a bonafide hit for sure.

T-1000

07-31-2003, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by dingostyle
It will definitely make back it's money internationally, but does that matter? If it doesn't make money off domestic grosses, it is considered a failure. Now, I've said it before, this movie really did not have to be made at all. It's just another cash in sequel like so many other movies this summer. You are asking for trouble when you give a film a $170 million dollar budget. If it doesn't open with $100 million or more, it is not going to recoup it's budget. There is only one sure thing now, American audiences obviously didn't embrace this film like the other Terminators, and therefore there will thankfully not be a fourth film. MAH!

Warner Bros. only spent $50 million on T3, so they already made their money back. In their eyes, T3 is a hit. In fact, C2, Intermedia, and WB all said that they were very happy with T3's opening weekend. C2 and Intermedia will make their money back through the international gross.

American audiences did embrace this film like the others, the word of mouth on T3 was solid. The only problem is that there is too much competition. New blockbusters are released every week.

Alecc Bracero

07-31-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by T-1000
American audiences did embrace this film like the others, the word of mouth on T3 was solid. The only problem is that there is too much competition. New blockbusters are released every week.

Too much competition doesn't mean anything. Look at Pirates of the Caribbean raking in that dough and only dropping small percentages each week.

Tom Samborski

07-31-2003, 02:25 PM

I think they simply released T3 for the wrong summer. This summer has had far too much sequels, and if T3 was released in 2002 or was going to be released next year, I think it would do much better buisness, because there were far less sequels released last summer, and there will be far less sequels that will be released next summer. Pirates of the Carribean simply was one of the more original summer films, and that's why its drops have been so small.

PorcheRacer

08-01-2003, 12:49 PM

I think it will make a hell of a lot of money on VHS/DVD too. People that missed it in theaters are going to be surprised at how good it actually is...

Jedi

08-01-2003, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by PorcheRacer
I think it will make a hell of a lot of money on VHS/DVD too. People that missed it in theaters are going to be surprised at how good it actually is...

I agree 100%. Shwarzenegger's lost LOTS of his credibility after films like End of Days, Batman and Rubin, 6th Day and Collateral Damage which generally had bad word-of-mouth and were either underperforming or flops at the boxoffice. Many wouldn't think he will actually DO make a decent film and with the absence of James Cameron they were kinda assured it's gonna be a desperate try to win his audience back by trying to revive his older, better roles. Internationally he's still a major draw though Collateral Damage was a major flop world-wide because it was a horrible, horrible mess of a film.

optimus1

08-04-2003, 06:41 PM

Hmm T3 has made about 230+ million worldwide so far.

Jedi

08-06-2003, 07:26 AM

T3's opened to HUGE numbers in UK making 6 Million pounds in its opening weekend. That's some good news :)

Spidey

08-06-2003, 07:41 AM

It's opening today here in Belgium !
I'm going to see it next sunday , I can't hardly wait !
I heard nothing but positive things about this movie !

DieHardBruceFan

08-06-2003, 12:36 PM

Combined international gross will help T3 into the black.
I think it's one of the coolest flicks of the year and I am dissapointed that it hasn't made more money in the United States.

optimus1

08-06-2003, 06:16 PM

Its pretty much already in the black now

optimus1

08-06-2003, 08:49 PM

Sheesh , Arnie has decided to run ( he told Jay Leno this tonite ) for Governor of California so I guess there will probably not be a T4 if he wins.

dh1989

08-06-2003, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by optimus1
Sheesh , Arnie has decided to run ( he told Jay Leno this tonite ) for Governor of California so I guess there will probably not be a T4 if he wins.

Has the show even aired yet? I don't think so. Of course, the internet is the internet, and rumors are all over the place regarding his decision. I've heard he's going to run, not going to run, and takes out a flame-thrower and torches Leno's skunk hairdoo, but, still, rumors can't be trusted. :)

Invincible

08-06-2003, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by dh1989
Has the show even aired yet? I don't think so. Of course, the internet is the internet, and rumors are all over the place regarding his decision. I've heard he's going to run, not going to run, and takes out a flame-thrower and torches Leno's skunk hairdoo, but, still, rumors can't be trusted. :)

No, I'm affraid it's true dh...he is going to run... http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/cwm/3dlil/cry.gif

dh1989

08-06-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
No, I'm affraid it's true dh...he is going to run... http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/cwm/3dlil/cry.gif

Fuck. I just heard this on the radio. I think I just heard King Conan get flushed. :(

Freeway

08-06-2003, 10:20 PM

Everyone seems to be assuming that he is automatically going to win. He likely will but it's not a sure thing. If he loses, he'll likely go back movies. I hope so.

ColinM

08-06-2003, 11:05 PM

I can't see him not winning. His Democratic opponent is widely hated, and Arnold has name recognition like nobody else.

optimus1

08-07-2003, 06:18 AM

He will win easy , trust me :)

Jedi

08-20-2003, 01:43 PM

$365.2M as for 8/17/2003 (and counting). Pretty much profitable I guess and should help for making a T4.

optimus1

09-04-2003, 08:19 PM

T3 has now earned 400 million dollars worldwide :)

The TZA

09-05-2003, 04:00 PM

T3 doesn't deserve to make it's money back, it was an abomination. I love Arnold and everything, but Rise of the Machines doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as parts one and two. Sorry, it was just really bad.

optimus1

09-05-2003, 06:33 PM

Hmm what movie did you see , it was pretty entertaining with some good action...yes it wasn't as good as T2 but it certainly was not an abomination.

The TZA

09-05-2003, 08:49 PM

It just sucked in so many ways. I'm a HUGE Terminator 1&2 mark* so I kind of had high hopes for this one. Well, I mean I didn't want them to make it because all recent films blow (because of CGI) plus the summer had been pretty weak, but I had faith because it's Arnold...

Right from the start I wanted to weep, it was so bad. All that crap in the gay bar with Arnold not kicking anyone's ass, and that scene with the sunglasses in the shop. Jesus, this was so bad I actually felt faint in the cinema. Me and my brother were looking at each other every few minute in wide-eyed shock at not only how bad the movie was, but because everyone around us was laughing and lapping it up. Terminator films shouldn't be a comedy, period. It's just stupid and insulting. Maybe on it's own it would have been a 6, but just because it's supposed to be a Terminator I gave it a 3 because I hated it so much.

The action sequences were great though, and the T-X or whatever was great - but that was it. There was no classic score, the director tried using slow-mo awkwardly in some scenes, there was no plot and it didn't make sense, John Connor was a pussy, Arnold didn't kill anyone and tried to act, BUT THE JOKES, DEAR GOD THE JOKES.

Sorry for going on, but you have no idea how much I detest this film. And I hate myself even more because I know I'll buy it on DVD because it's (apparently) part of the series. Woe is me(!)

The TZA

09-05-2003, 08:50 PM

* mark = a fan who thinks wrestling is real and not pre-determined. I'm a wrestling mark, and in context, an Arnold/Terminator mark.

T-1000

09-05-2003, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by The TZA
, there was no plot and it didn't make sense, John Connor was a pussy, Arnold didn't kill anyone and tried to act, BUT THE JOKES, DEAR GOD THE JOKES.

IMO, T3 had a great plot and it made perfect sense. It was the logical direction to take the story in.

John Connor wasn't a pussy. He was unsure of his destiny. A part of him believes that Judgment Day has been prevented and that his life is pointless, and the other part of him believes that his destiny will eventually catch up with him and the machines will return. He was a conflicted human being, not a pussy. How would you feel if you had the weight of the world on your shoulders?

Arnold didn't kill anyone in T2 either. He didnt seriously hurt anyone in T3 because he didnt need to. Arnold gave the best performance of his career in T3, IMO.

T3 had just as much humor as T2 did. The humor in T3 was the product of the Terminator's interaction with humans. It was used to balance out the mood due to the dark third act , which included the ending.

Frank the Tank

09-06-2003, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by T-1000

Arnold gave the best performance of his career in T3, IMO.

That would be Twins:D

The TZA

09-06-2003, 12:27 PM

I will watch the film again, but at the cinema I noticed several contradictions and plotholes (but it's been ages so I'll probably look stupid if I try and list them now).

John Connor WAS a pussy, because his character made no arc and he was the same at the end as he was at the beginning. Kate Brewster (a shitty, pointless character) made more of an effort to fight back. Connor was useless.

Arnold had no reason not to kill anyone in this film, he wasn't the same robot as in T2. He should've at least blown away all those cops at the funeral home.

T2 had very limited humour, and for the most part it worked (IMO apart from all the shitty "Hasta la vista" nonsense). T3 had a "joke" every single minute of the film, and Arnold didn't utter one line of dialogue that wasn't tongue-in-cheek. Arnold was okay, but his acting at the end was terrible (why could he fight the TX's powers? He should've just stayed "evil" and got his ass kicked by John).

The beginning and final sequence was good, but the rest of the film (save for the action) was not, but that's just my opinion. I just didn't think it was logical in a narrative sense, but the worst thing, a trap which every BIG film is falling into these days - is the awful awful sense of humour. Why do they have to litter action and horror films with shitty jokes that just ruin it?????

Spidey

09-06-2003, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by The TZA
Arnold had no reason not to kill anyone in this film, he wasn't the same robot as in T2. He should've at least blown away all those cops at the funeral home.

********SPOILERS***********

He didn't kill anybody because Kate Brewster programmed him not to kill anybody.

The TZA

09-06-2003, 12:43 PM

Ahh, touche. I must've missed that bit. Still a shit film though.

Invincible

09-06-2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by The TZA
Well, I mean I didn't want them to make it because all recent films blow (because of CGI)

What does that suppose to mean, man. T2 had CGI, yet you still loved it didn't ya? it also set new standards for CGI in movies. Nowadays every movie uses CGI. It would be impossible to make T3 w/o it.

dh1989

09-06-2003, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
It would be impossible to make T3 w/o it.

I agree. Some scenes just needed CGI, for example, ***SPOILERS*** when the T-X is being drawn apart, that would be incredibly cheesy and difficult to do without a computer.

optimus1

09-06-2003, 04:06 PM

I do see some of his points , making the terminator put on those silly glasses does make him seem more like a clown then a killing machine ( yes I get why it was done but they dumbed down the character a bit too much ). I also agree that Twins was his best acting performance.

The TZA

09-06-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Invincible
What does that suppose to mean, man. T2 had CGI, yet you still loved it didn't ya? it also set new standards for CGI in movies. Nowadays every movie uses CGI. It would be impossible to make T3 w/o it.

No, I don't mean the entire concept of CGI, I mean the fact that every film relies on it these days, and it sucks because it looks POOR. Yeah T2 used CGI and it was awesome because a) it was twelve years ago and it was the first mainstream time we'd seen it, and b) the film wasn't just CGI, it was used to add to the story.

The problem I have with CGI is when film producers think the effects are better than they are. For example - Spiderman, Matrix Reloaded, Star Wars, and Harry Potter where the effects are so bad it is distracting. Then there are films like LOTR (shit, those giant trees scenes were awful) and bits in T3 (the CGI Arnold looked pretty crappy, but it was edited well so as not to look too bad). The only efffects film I can think of where CGI was seamless was The (original) Matrix.

As a Terminator fan I would have liked to have seen T3 maybe, but with the modern movie-makers obsession with computer generated imagary I knew that a sequel post-2000 would blow, and it did. I wish they had never made it, I don't understand why any of you liked it. I love Predator and Alien, but I'm dreading a modern adaptation, it will just look like a cartoon.