Official Dawn of the Dead Remake Thread

[CrazyKillah]

Hey all,
I've heard a lot of grumbling lately about people posting on the same topic on a number of different threads, so, with news slowly starting to trickle in about this (dreaded by some) remake of a zombie classic, I figured I'd take the liberty of starting the official thread here.

I'll also throw my two cents in now. I LOVE the original and HATE the idea of it being remade. I am, nevertheless, trying to keep an open mind and am hoping that once I see a trailer my feelings will change (I found hope after seeing the TCM remake trailer).

I've also got a question... for the schmoe who described the new zombies as being akin to Boyle's in 28 Days Later... were you a zombie extra or something? If so, I'm sure we'd love to hear all about it.

[CrazyKillah]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention...
Some of you probably know, but there's a great Romero site out there that has somewhat recently opened a section dedicated to this upcoming remake. It has a couple of pictures of the mall as well as a fiery car crash. Check it out... www.homepageofthedead.com

[lockedoutfilm]

Yes, I play "Trevor" -- a mall zombie.
Why my zombie has a name, i have no idea... but my continuity polaroids have TREVOR with quotes around it. Who knows? I've only worked 3 days so far.

Anyhow, a few of my friends are fellow zombies and they were being taught by some technical director how to act like zombies. This was for the big ending scene... most of it was shot against green screen. They were doing some pyrotechnics last night. nothing too fancy.

There's not much else I know that I'm really able to say. I would have preferred to see them shoot on Panavision as opposed to Arri, but you can't win 'em all.

[Mr Bones]

ok, so your telling me, they had a guy there to teach the extras how to act like a zombie, as if you couldn't figure it out yourselves? I mean, how friggin hard is it to act like a zombie, just drag/shuffle your feet in a stumble, walk aimlessly with no direction or emotion and moan. Simple! I'm starting to lose faith in this movie everytime I hear something about it :(

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by lockedoutfilm
Yes, I play "Trevor" -- a mall zombie.
Why my zombie has a name, i have no idea... but my continuity polaroids have TREVOR with quotes around it. Who knows? I've only worked 3 days so far.

Anyhow, a few of my friends are fellow zombies and they were being taught by some technical director how to act like zombies. This was for the big ending scene... most of it was shot against green screen. They were doing some pyrotechnics last night. nothing too fancy.

There's not much else I know that I'm really able to say. I would have preferred to see them shoot on Panavision as opposed to Arri, but you can't win 'em all. So, you mentioned that these were not the lumbering zombies of Romero's Dawn. Do you think that this new movement will please fans or cause an uproar from purists and fans of the original? Sorry if I'm being nosey... it's just that there hasn't been all that much news on the Dawn front at all. Oh yeah, did you get to see Ving at all? Guy's a bad MF.

[lockedoutfilm]

Well, Mr. Bones, the whole point of having a workshop on how to move like a zombie is BECAUSE these are 28 Days Later style zombies. They're quick moving and viscious... or so I hear. I don't know, I wasn't in that workshop specificially. My friend, who is also a big Dawn of the Dead aficionado, is pissed off that they're not slow moving zombies.

I haven't really seen anyone on set except for HEATHER LANGENKAMP!!! Yes! Her husband actually DOES do SFX work! I'm telling you, this woman gets better looking by the decade. I was pretty much just gawking over her during our brief conversation. She's so kool.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Actually, for the Resident Evil movie they held a class where the actors were taught how to move like Zombies. As a matter of fact if I remember from the commentary correctly the actors playing the Zombies were actually dancers. Point is they all had to take classes to become the Zombie.

I'm sure it looks easy enough but I betcha if you walked onto a set and started moving how you thought a Zombie moves the director would send you to a class.

[CrazyKillah]

The "zombie school" thing doesn't totally surprise me. Think of how many friggin' zombies there were in the original - they all basically acted the same (except for that over-acting nurse zombie beeyatch!). You don't want one dead dude acting one way and the next dead dude acting completely different.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Exactly CrazyKillah. Thats the whole point of Zombie school. Hehe I'd like to go there. Damn it why can't there be a Zombie school where one could attend and become a certified Zombie actor/actress?!

ANYWAY

Variety is a good thing but most zombies have the same characteristics. At least the old school Zombies not 28 days later ones. Meaning they are slow moving, of course decomposing and they kind groan. Cept for ROTLD (can't remember which one) where the Zombie radios for more cops. I love that part!

[lockedoutfilm]

Resident Evil 2 is shooting up here in Canada as well. They've already begun casting and, from what I've heard, you can expect to see a lot of the "Dawn" zombies in that film as well.

I, for one, never want to go through four hours of makeup again.

Also, background actors are notorious for being under-directed. Usually they will be shouted a few nonsensical phrases about how to react by one of the AD's... unless there is some sort of specialty - ie. zombies.

I wouldn't call it zombie school. I would call it a zombie workshop. Some spawn of the Production Designer (or perhaps a hired zombie specialist) will give you a run down of whats going on... show you the moves, give you a warm up, tell you what to do... what not to do. Now, keep in mind... this isn't a classroom. Last night there were 150 people there and each night (4 nights total), half of that number is all new people.

aaaaannnd they only did 2 shots last night... and i sat around the entire time. Really, I didn't need to be there -- I wasn't supposed to be there, buuuut I wanted some more money.

[TheDeadWalk]

From zombies such as the "Zombie Nurse" in the original Dawn... I'm actually G-L-A-D that there is these zombie workshops.

Everyone's got to admit that THAT recurring zombie bitch tainted a bit of the original film. I hated her. Hope that's ONE thing that the re-make can improve on.

[EvilDeadGirl]

I'll admit seeing that nurse zombie repeatedly was annoying as hell. Glad we won't be seeing her anytime soon. ;)

Hey lockedoutfilm are you going to be doing RE2 as well? I noticed you stated that a lot of the Dawn people that were zombies were going to be zombies in RE2 and was curious as to weither or not you'd be joinin' the lot even though you don't want to sit through 4 hours of make up again.

[dellamorte dellamore]

When someone asked Romero how to portray a zombie onscreen , he would tell everyone to just walk around and do your own thing , this way every zombie will have their won distinct personality . Now some people will say this resulted in everyone playing them the same way , but if you look closely , with certain exceptions , there are many subtle differences with mass zombie action , i think the concept of letting everyone do their own thing is brilliant , for the most part , because particular scenes , obviously have to be very specific .


Now , i also feel that the idea of a zombie workshop and rehearsing how to move in a certain way is also a good idea , depending on the effect you are looking for . For that out of control atmosphere , improv can't be beat , because it appears more fluid , but for intense , singleminded , aggressive zombies , a structered , rehearsed movement is essential . Then again , i doubt that many scenes in Zombie 3 and 4 ( both featured fast and slow moving undead specimens ) were rehearsed and i felt it worked great .



So i really wouldn't discount the Dawn remake for the simple reason that the creatures move fast and the movements were rehearsed , because i don't see it as a negative . Plus , depending on the level of action in certain scenes , safety becomes an issue , so everyone best be moving the way they should and in the right place to avoid injury . What i would like to see is a combo of zombies moving at different speeds , so you don't exactly know what to expect . One minute they are lumbering , then their sprinting , and vice versa . They should also explore just how the undead senses the prey , sight , sound , smell ? This is an aspect of zom films that is very rarely explored . The motivation for their aggressiveness has been alluded too , but the way the sense their victims , and how they can distinguish between the undead and the living ( body heat maybe ? ) is never explained . If it's body heat , you could wear certain fabrics that would limit the amount of heat you give off , or contain it entirely .


So i think this film could have some potential if they expand on the zombie mystique , and not by simply making them faster or more aggressive , or upping the gore quotient . Day of the dead and The Dead next door both examined some of these aspects , but i don't feel they went far enough . I'm hoping Dawn remake does , although i still wish Savini and Romero were the ones doing it .

[lockedoutfilm]

Dellamorte, I'm sorry, but I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with your zombie expose theory. What you've just described is essentially the genesis of Tremors II: Aftershock... or even Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers.

I think most people will agree with me when I say that the magic behind Romero's zombie world is that we don't know WHY they've come back to life, there IS no motivation, there is only chaos.

" If it's body heat , you could wear certain fabrics that would limit the amount of heat you give off , or contain it entirely . "
--- aaaaannd then the film would end with our hero's in special jumpsuits. Or maybe they hose each other down with fire extinguishers.... and then they can have "subjective ZOMBIE POV" and have it like those Thermasilk commercials with the weird colors...
That's not storytelling, that's just stupidity (IMO).

The background actors on this film are not going to ask Zack Snyder now to act like a zombie. 80% of them can't tell the difference between him and the AD's (from whom they receive most of their 'direction' anyhow). I wouldn't go as far to say that zombie scenes need to be specificially choreographed... perhaps for other parts of the film, yes. In certain shots, the up-front zombies need to do certain things, hit certain marks, but for the 148 in the background, its a free-for-all.

I think it's also important to understand - and an initial shock to me - is that 75% of the people I've talked to on set (cast/crew included) have not seen the original film. A mere handful of the 'zombie' backgrounders have seen it... the others are clueless. And then of course I try to explain to them the legacy that is "Dawn of the Dead" without sounding too eccentric... usually followed by something like "So this is like 'The Ring'? That was a remake, right?"

EvilDeadGirl - I will definitely not be doing Resident Evil 2. Mostly because I don't have the time for it... I'm super busy this fall. Other than that, I don't know if they would cast me... a) I was upfront in "dawn" and b) "dawn" cast a lot of younger looking people because the film is set in a mall. And if I never have to wear that makeup again I will die a happy boy.

[EvilDeadGirl]

dellamorte dellamore you have made some good points being what George A Romero told those that asked him how to portray a zombie on screen and the work shop comments.

As far as the more in depth look at what makes the zombies tick, ie sense of smell, sight, hear and what not I'd have to go with what lockedoutfilm said.

The whole scaryness surrounding the zombies is the fact that we don't know what makes them tick. We don't know if they use their sense of tase, smell, sight or whatever. That's what makes them soo creepy the mystery surrounding them. I know that if a film were made where all of these elements were gone through and exposed I would not want to see it. As it would completely ruin zombies for me. I like the fact that they are unpredictable slow or fast moving and we don't know whats going on in their heads if anything at all. For me zombie movies are fun and not to be analyzed.

Ok - Lockedoutfilm - what does your zombie look like so that we might look for you when the film comes out?

[lockedoutfilm]

long sleeve white shirt, light blue t overtop, bluejeans, black eyes.
but there's blood and dirt all over everything.

[pyscho dude]

I agree with dellamorte dellamore. I personally think zombie school wastes time and money. I mean is it that hard for the director to say: "I want you to move this way" and just display it? I mean Romero didn't have zombie school when he was making his films and his zombies were great.

[Mr Bones]

Well, that was kinda my point too, I feel like its a waste of money. But still, I feel like this movies doing nothing but using the name Dawn Of the Dead to make another movie totally different from the original. I mean, its like all they got from this movie was the name, and made a totally different movie in my opinion. I have a little faith, because, it IS a zombie movie, but then again, it better trump the hell out of the OG one, or else theres going to be a lot of angry mofos that I know of. Least the TCM remakes showing some promise, but only time will tell for me at least if this ones gonna bring the same feeling.

[lockedoutfilm]

Most of the 'zombie' scenes are shot SECOND UNIT and are very very very slow moving sets. It's not like the zombies train at some sort of "academy" before coming to set... all of the workshops are done in the background holding ON LOCATION. As soon as the actors walk in the door, they are being paid. So really, there is no time or money being spent on giving the actors direction, it comes with the territory, really. However, I agree that HAVING the zombies attend some sort of off-set training is absolutely ridiculous and a definite waste of money (considering the hundreds and hundreds of extras there are)... besides, with that many thespians there, nothing would get done.

And yes, the majority of these actors NEED zombie workshops. Most of them don't know what zombies are. So if you say "walk like a zombie" they'll look at you like you just killed their dog. You might think I'm overexaggerating, but seriously... some actors are just stupid and want to get paid.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a cozy little set where the director is friends with everyone and can share his profound insight on each and every little detail. Unfortunately, that's just not how movies are made... or at least not this one.

What I'm considering doing is going around, scoping out all of the technical things on set - what camera model they're using, what type of lenses, distances, light temperatures.... that sort of stuff, so I can draw a rough diagram in my mind of what the film will look like.

zombies, I'd like you to meet a giant plow

[EvilDeadGirl]

Boy locked you really gave me something to work with! :p

[dellamorte dellamore]

I don't know , no matter how much the unknown motivations are in zombie films is , i think it's time to take the genre a bit further than it has been taken in the past , through some intelligence in there for once , because the over the top comedy angle has already been done , and so has the social commentary , metaphorical angle , so it would be nice if the scientific aspect was featured a bit more , instead of the dead are coming back to life and how are these group of people going to survive .


Maybe Romero will play up that aspect in Dead Reckoning , because mindless zoms are getting a bit old , it's time for take them in a different direction . Don't get me wrong , even the worst zom films are highly entertaining , but most directors are content to take a superficial approach to their utilization in a film ( with obvious exceptions of course ) .


And i don't agree that using some intelligence to quell a threat would be a bad idea , i think it shows a lack of imagination on the part of the filmmakers when they simply cop out and don't let the actors explore certain options . You , oh wait if you could defeat or defend a particular threat this way , then the film would be over in 10 minutes , or they would end the film with everyone in jumpsuits , so what , at least try something .



Now , i think it's cool that someone actually involved in the production is posting comments here , and i hope the film does surprise me , but i may lose patience if it's merely a survival horror film without a brain .

[someguy]

So lockedout what people(cast/crew wise)have you met and what happened?

[lockedoutfilm]

EvilDeadGirl - that's pretty much it as far as my costume goes. Its hard to describe my makeup because I am wearing black contact lenses which make it very difficult to see. They hose you down with this paint stuff on your arms and whatnot that gives you a sewer-rat look (and feel).

I had a star-struck conversation with Heather Langenkamp, as I mentioned above. I've only been to set 2 days (more in about a week) and since I'm up close to the camera during my mall scenes I don't have the luxury of coming back day after day after day ("didn't we just see that zombie at the Marina?").
Met up with Lindy Booth on set again. I talked to her just before the premiere of Wrong Turn.. we were working on a pilot for MTV called PLATO (don't look for it). Awesome girl. Not sure if she was filming on set or not... there's a lot of waiting around going on.

Other than that, I talked to some crew people who met before on other sets. Nothing eventful. I'll get some photos when I can.. but I don't want to get fired.

[dellamorte dellamore]

You sound like you know what your'e talking about , maybe you should be at the helm of this remake instead .


I have to say , i appreciate you taking the time to let us shmoes know what's going on with the production and describing some of your experiences , and no matter what i bitch about , i like to congratulate you on securing what most likely is an acting gig to die for , and one you'll definitely never forget . The effect of meeting Langenkamp will linger for quite sometime in itself ( i would have been stuttering and stammering if i met her , most likely ) , but just to be a part of what should be a cool remake of a classic ( i hope ) is no doubt exciting , and i'm positive there are plenty of rabid dead fans that would give up their first born to be a part of something like this .




Anyway , if you feel you may be jeapordizing your involvment in the film by posting pics , please don't , it's not worth it , not at all , but please keep us up to date about the goings on over there , even stuff you do in between filming would be welcome . Like the nightlife , and the general public's reaction to the production .

[XCoRyX]

MTV just showed a newspiece on this and showed footage of shooting and such,and ving rhames and mekkhi phiffer dressed up.Ian Robinson,MTV personnel has a cameo as a zombie hence the newspiece and he talked about it and such and showed his scene in which he had to run many times,and ving rhames kept making fun of him.It was ok...Sarah Polley was in the piece too and looked good....

[lockedoutfilm]

More ramblings from yours truly
SET REPORT - 2nd UNIT, day 10 of 20
(contains possible spoilers)

Had an interesting day today. It was my first day on the 2nd unit set. MUUCCCHHH more calm and friendly than principal photography. Anyways...

ZOMBIE MAKEUP - Again, we were lectured about the picture-taking on set and whatnot, so I am terrified to bring any sort of recording device anywhere near set (especially since I've developed good friendships with a lot of the crew)... but this time I was able to see a LOT of zombies and how they looked. My new and improved verdict: think Day of the Dead. They don't look like the air-brushed-to-perfection zombies from Resident Evil... darker, dirtier. Having seen the mass population of zombies IN MOTION, they remind me less of zombies from 28 Days Later and more of the zombies from Return of the Livind Dead (minus the antics and super-speed, of course).

I had done close-up work on first unit for a few days previous, so I was lucky enough to score a mask and pretty much free-roam around set all day. They were doing plate shots against a green screen for a shot where Mekhi Pfieffer looks over the edge of the roof of the mall and sees thousands of zombies. Well... to do that (and for it to not cost as much as it would to hire thousands of extras, make-up them, etc.) we shot a million takes of the same shot in different positions throughout the day so that, in post, they can tile the shot of us and layer it through the green screen backdrop.

I'm pretty sure they also shot some sort of DVD menu or something to do with the DVD because they used a Panasonic AG miniDV camera as opposed to the Arri35 film camera.

Towards the end of the day I got this really potent wave of disorientation which almost knocked me off my feet. It was the martini shot and I swear I was about to keel over... REALLY weird... We wrapped around 9 and had a party with some of the extras (there was a tight group of us that seemed to become best friends the instant we met) including alcohol... so if I go off on tangents, there's the reason.

Also shot was a sequence where a principal actor was nailed off the head with a golf ball (via an air gun from above... ouch!) - is this a reference to the original where Ken Foree hits a ball off the roof? I have no idea. In fact, my initial thoughts were that perhaps the golf ball was just used to trigger a reaction more realistic of a bullet... I have no clue... that part really went over my head.

Ving was on set for a bit... sat outside with us smokers for a bit. Didn't say too too much. Mekhi also wrapped and flew back to L.A
I got to watch some of the interior unit 2 dailies. It was insert shots from the bedroom set. The dailies pretty much consisted of a dolly-in on a door handle and some misc shots of items around the room. Granted, I was standing about 50 meters AWAY from the 27 inch TV playing the dailies, but what I saw (dailies are video, by the way, so the quality will look different on film) looked a lot like "The Ring" -- SPECIFICIALLY the dolly-in on the door handle... it reminded me of the dolly in on the telephone in the opening scene.

Anyhow, i am probably boring you with drunken, inane details. I'm pretty sure I'm returning for something on Tuesday. The makeup will be more elaborate (ugh), but I think it might be my last day on set, which is more upsetting than it is a relief (I will miss my background acting buddies!!!!).

Sorry for spoiling anything... OH, I have one more spoiler for those interested in knowing...hilight to read::::

A scene cut from Gunn's script involving a dead baby eating its way out of its mother's stomach and killing her and the father apparently HAS been shot and did make the shooting draft... Dunno if it'll make the movie, but word on the set is that it WAS shot or WILL be shot

[Silverload]

I honesty am against this remake, they are not even trying to stay true to the original. I hear this film is supposed to be a completely different film then the original Dawn of the Dead, the only similarity is the shopping mall. Okay... Why the hell didn't they just make their own damn zombie film instead of hijacking a horror masterpiece? With the originals George Romero had something to say with each film. Each film had a reflecting commentary of its time period.

I guess it is best and look on the bright side. If this film turns out good profit then that might guarantee a 4th Dead film by the master himself (which right now is in developmental hell). I would love to see Romero to once more come out and show everyone how a zombie film should be made.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Thanks again , lock , it sounds like you're having a blast , and things are turning out better you you could have imagined .


You mentioned how much more relaxed the 2nd unit was . That goes without saying , since most times , from what i've read , the director isn't around , stressing out over every little detail . After all , if a film bombs , they never blame it on the second unit director , and they are usually relegated to the less technical and sophisticated aspects of the film shoot .



I knew there had to be a couple of rendevous with alcohol at the end of the shooting day , and you confirmed my suspicions . Hope you can take a couple of pics of the people you spent time with away from the set , and it would be nice if you could post a couple of them here . It's doesn't matter if it isn't some guy in makeup or anything , just some pics of some of the places you hung out while you were there would be cool .



Now , after reading your last post , first , i'm relieved the zoms won't , according to you be running at full speed , and they don't resemble the ones in 28 Days later or Res Evil ( i love RE , so i want that unique zom look to remain that way ) , and second , i've given up on comparing this film with the original . Of course it's almost impossible to recapture that magic , and it would be foolish to even try , so it seems as if they are coming up with their little twists to the original narrative and going in all new directions with regards to other aspects .



There's nothing wrong with that , in my opinion , and now that you have relayed some of your experiences , i am looking foward to this film , it doesn't sound too bad at all , i'm just not going to try to make any connection to the original , just simply enjoy the film on it's own merits .




By the way , i skimmed over your last post , because i don't want to spoil any surprises that may be found in the film , but im hope you keep posting about your experiences . And , i have to ask , how is the babe situation over there ?

[EvilDeadGirl]

I like to thank you to locked for keeping us updated on the progress of the film, the make up and what not. I'm sure that the others schmoes appreciate the fact that your taking the time to give us the info on whats going on.

I'm glad that the zombies won't be running at full speed. That idea kind of ruins the aspect of using zombies as most people when I think of zombies I think of slow moving "creatures" that don't really think or speak. (Needless to say I haven't gotten the chance to see 28 days later.)

It's good that the zombie make up isn't the same as RE's and that the zombies look a bit "dirty", it adds to the flavor of the film I beleive.

I'll admit that when I first heard this film was going to be remade I wasn't too much into it. I knew from the get go of hearing that mentioned that it would stray from the original plot. Perhaps more so trying to capitalize on the title rather than the story. Which in all honesty I can't blame them as the original is a classic and jes' about every horror fan loves this movie.

I agree with Dellamorte, I'd like to see some pics of those people that you hung out with, again they don't have to be in zombie make up as you mentioned something earlier about being afraid to bring a camera on set. Thats cool, wouldn't want you to get into any shit for doing that.

BTW I read that "spoiler" you had....that sounds soo fuckin' badass. I betcha it'll get cut right out of the movie though. :(

[CrazyKillah]

I second what EvilDeadGirl said about the above spoiler warning. That would be gruesome and definitely should be left in - unfortunately, it might not (filmakers might balk or MPAA might have a cow). Then again, I was just thumbing through Fango's F v J mag and that looked pretty gory, so maybe there's hope for the more gruesome horror flicks. And a zombie movie just doesn't seem right w/o people being torn to shreds and munched on!:p

[pyscho dude]

I still feel that this remake won't even be half of what Dawn was but I'm starting to have some hope. Yeah and thanks for those cool ass details man!

[BadNewsCruise]

Ive only got one thing to say about this pointless re make...pure jungle bunny shit . fuck universal and fuck the film makers for making it. R.I.P

[EvilDeadGirl]

I don't think that the remake will hold a candle to the original. However, I am hoping that we'll get a decent Zombie flick out of this whole mess. Besides what zombie fan could resist seeing this? I for one won't be able to.

[lockedoutfilm]

Schmoes, are you there? Its me, Lockedoutfilm...

back with another on set report.
let's get to the basics. MY GENERAL SPOILER RULES APPLY...






So today I'm the prettiest belle at the ball... and by belle I mean zombie and by ball I mean second unit set -- TOTALLY decked out in awesome prosthetics which make the right side of my face look like its been almost bitten off. Prosthetics only took an hour, makeup took 45 minutes and THANK GOD because i was in an air conditioned trailer. I also got to take home my prosthetics.. which, at first, I thought was awesome, but really they look just like the ones you get from any cheap makeup store (obviously they look good when they've been professionally applied and airbrushed over, etc... anyhow, it looks like crap now).

I have NO idea what to think about these zombies anymore. Guess what? They're RUNNING again. Yes, FULL SPEED Donovan Bailey style. We had to chase after a "BP" truck today in the mall parking lot.
We had to do it a few times because the 2nd unit director was like "zombies don't smile and laugh, guys!" and I turned to the 2nd unit AD and said "why not just have them smiling? Does it really make a difference? It's like a midget with 3 arms in a bikini... someone goes up to put lipstick on it and says 'no, putting lipstick on a 3 armed midget in a bikini is just ridiculous!"
Needless to say my cries were unanswered.

And that's about all we did today.

I heard from one of the second unit production managers (who is also an AD on a new TV pilot I'm directing) said they were filming downtown (Thornhill or Toronto, I'm not sure) and there was a "helicopter crash" which apparently people thought was REAL... long story short there was a big article about it. Anyone in the GTA should look into getting a copy of it. They might have a photo, I'm not sure.

AAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNDDDD my call time is 6.30 tomorrow.. fudge. That means I gotta get up REEEL early.
wish me luck.

[CrazyKillah]

Thanks again for the heads up, lockedout. Even though many Schmoes (myself included) are weary of this remake of a classic, your insight is greatly appreciated!

[Silverload]

Originally posted by lockedoutfilm

I have NO idea what to think about these zombies anymore. Guess what? They're RUNNING again. Yes, FULL SPEED Donovan Bailey style. We had to chase after a "BP" truck today in the mall parking lot.

WTF! That sucks, why don’t they just go ahead and make the zombies fly with hang gliders strapped to their back while using ray guns to shoot at people. (yes I watch too much Simpsons :p )

[dellamorte dellamore]

The film is starting to sound pretty good , and it looks like they are shooting for a Feb / March release , so at least we won't have to wait that long for it .


And i've said it before , forget about the title or the fact that it's a remake , i think you'll enjoy it more if you approach it as an individual horror film , with very little relation to the original . I'm keeping on open mind about this one , because it sounds like they are putting some effort into this thing , and not simply trying to cash in on the name recognition .


Once again , thank you for the update , and maybe you'll make your own zombie film someday , you seem to have your hand on the pulse of that genre .


This really is an experience you'll never forget and cherish for a long time to come , because it all hasn't sunken in yet , i would imagine .

Also , i just saw Dark Blue again , and Ving Rhames is an excellent choice for the lead role in this film , it will that much better with him a part of the proceedings , i can't wait .

[EvilDeadGirl]

Hey locked! Thanks a ton for the updates! Your my hero ;) Hehe.

Ok, well with the zombies running at full speed....should make the truck scene a little bit more interesting. In parts like that, where there is a fast moving vehicle I can understand having the zombies move much faster.

Then again I do like the fact that once inside an area as in the original how they all moved nice and slow...added to the creepy effectiveness of the movie. (One day people, I'll learn to spell but in the meantime..>.<!)

That make up they put on you sounds kewl. It's neat that they let you keep the stuff they used on ya. You could put em in a little case with a note on it describing the movie it's from. Ya know a little memento of your time as a zombie. Man oh man I'd give up my right arm to be doing what your doing! I hate you.....:p (not really)

About the copter crash. That's too funny. A shame I can't get a copy of that paper down here in FL, USA. Bastards.....

[pyscho dude]

so much for the walking dead.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Just think of them as the living dead , or the dying living . And EDG , if you have a Border's book store near you , most of them carry newspaper from other parts of the country , but i'm not sure if they carry ones from Canada .

[EvilDeadGirl]

DD, I checked Borders and those SOB's said they didn't carry anything from Canada.......so I'm going to see if maybe I can get one at one of the local newstands. There's this place called Bob's News that carries papers from all over. Hopefully they'll have a copy. If not....:(

[pyscho dude]

Hey I just thought of a tagline.
When the dead walk you run
When the dead run... you run faster!

[someguy]

Originally posted by EvilDeadGirl
DD, I checked Borders and those SOB's said they didn't carry anything from Canada.......so I'm going to see if maybe I can get one at one of the local newstands. There's this place called Bob's News that carries papers from all over. Hopefully they'll have a copy. If not....:(


Hey EvilDeadGirl I'm Canadian. Muahahahahahahahahaha.








Unfortunately I can't get the paper. Too far away. But I'm sure there is a website.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Well :p Someguy!

[someguy]

I know when my statements are good when people only use smilies to me.










;)

[someguy]

BTW who wants to come in the chat and have a little DOTD discussion?

[dellamorte dellamore]

Here you go shmoes , the only truly effective method of disposing of the " living " dead :


http://www.living-dead.com/images/news_pics/large/dotd1.jpg



courtesy of living-dead.com


I had to edit the address because i forgot to put the slash in there .


Check out this site , it has even more pics :


rayza.net

[EvilDeadGirl]

0o0o0o TY DD! I'll havta wonder on over to that site.

[pyscho dude]

Fire is cool! That reminds of Night of the livng dead where they drag zombies into bon fires.

[charles lee ray]

i am excited about this movie. i liked the remake to night of the living dead so hopefully i will like this remake too.

[CrazyKillah]

BUMP! Anymore news from our on-the-set Schmoe?

[XCoRyX]

I still have to see the original dawn,and day of the dead as well....I see where many complain about this remake,but I did indeed enjoy the NOTLD remake far better then the original,so i'm just skeptical...

[lockedoutfilm]

Yes, in fact I've been wanting to post my news on my final day of shooting for awhile now, but just haven't had the time or motivation...

I stole 13 pages of the script from set. If anyone from Universal finds out they will have my head. Basically its a little purple booklet for the ADs to know what exactly is being filmed and who is needed. So the first four pages are call lists for crew and specialty crew. The next 13 pages are the actual script... or what is being shot that day. Apparently I read pages 30 to 43. I would scan the booklet, but a) I might be killed by Universal and b) the booklet is folded to shit and has blood and makeup and fingerprints all over it.

Soo... I get my legs chopped off by a chainsaw. Look for it. They shot the same sequence five times with five different people, of which I was one of... I don't know if they will use all of them or just one, but it gets pretty bloody thats for sure. Basically the zombies attack the 'ark' (suped-up purple DARTS busses) and get their legs chopped off by chainsaws which shoot out from the bottom (I'm guessing on that).

Here's a list of names from my script:

Ana
Luda
Terry
Bart
Michael
Ben (who is dead)
Kenneth
CJ

Universal, please don't kill me... but I have to do this..

Let's take a look at some horrible dialogue!!

ANA
I don't know, but look up the road. There's a lot more of them. (then) Why are they coming here?

KENNETH (watching them)
Memory maybe. Instinct. What they used to do. This place was imporant to them. It made them happy. (a long beat) Or maybe they're just coming for us.

BART
Instinct, huh? So if that was you down there, Terry, you'd be jerking off!

TERRY
I would.


Then we went downtown to Front Street in Toronto, which looked like a warzone. Lots of paper all over the streets. There were about 20 or so of us zombies... basically we just had to chase Ving Rhames and Lindy Booth... not much to it. We got rained out for half an hour..... which was good because I hate running, especially in zombie makeup in public on a crowded on-location set. In order to project your physical persona on screen convincingly, you've basically got to move 100% of your body (shoulders, elbows, hips, neck, waste, knees) so it does take a lot out of you and quickly.

Now I'm wrapped and [thank God] I never have to return to that set. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer them.
and that's all she wrote.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Hey locked thanks for the update. The chainsaw thing sounds pretty sweet. I'm always up for some chainsaw action!

BTW is there an official release date for this yet?

[someguy]

Quick question locked.


Is there a really smart guy in the group of main characters? Cause I'm supposing that a trap was built which would make chainsaws shoot out from under the buses from motion detection or something.

[lockedoutfilm]

There isn't a release date that I'm aware of yet.

As far as the characters go... I'm not sure if there is a "smart" character who rigs up the saws on the arcs... The arcs themselves are sort of makeshift, not the type of things you'd have motion sensors on. The bus is essentially covered in barbwire and those pull-down metal gate things you see blocking stores off in the mall after hours.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Sounds to me like the characters took extra precautions when blocking the gates off with the trucks. But hey that's jes' me.

[CrazyKillah]

Huh, I wonder if some Tom Savini look-alike bikers will come along and sabotage things for our heros:p On a more serious note, Tom's website says that he has a cameo in this remake (which I'm praying will be good as the TCM remake is looking) - can't remember what his part is, though.

[XCoRyX]

Originally posted by lockedoutfilm
There isn't a release date that I'm aware of yet.


March 26th,2004 isnt it?

[chemical]

yeah so i was reading the news papper (the toronto star) and their was an article on the dawn of teh dead remake, it had a pic of a trashed street, cars flipped over and a guy standing with a bassball bat breaking shit, he was just a f/x guy but yeah i'm looking forward to teh remake i just don't think it iwll be as good as teh origional seeing as that was like one of the best fuckign zombie films ever

anyways let me know what you think

ease

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
March 26th,2004 isnt it? I'm pretty sure that's the date that Fango had listed in their upcoming calendar. I'm not as psyched for this one as for the TCM remake (I don't know, I loved the original, but the remake trailer just grabbed me by the yarbles), but I'll still probably be there opening night - I'm definitely a sucker for a zombie movie (the same reason I'll show up for the not-so-fantastic-looking House of the Dead).

[XCoRyX]

im the other way around,now that I atleast saw the trailer and such for the TCM Remake,I think the remake of TCM looks atrocious...hopefully this will look and appeal better.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Hopefully they'll have the Tom Savini bikers come along and screw things up for our "heros?" It wouldn't be the same without them!

On a second thought TY for the release date guys! Appreciate it.

Now the next thing that's buggin' me is when do we get to see a trailer for this?!

[CrazyKillah]

Here's a picture of one of the "assault" buses from the remake. My first time posting a pic so bear with me if it doesn't work this first time. BD also has a link to a page called rayza.net which has tons more pictures (basically of the aftermath of the carnage) - that's were I got this one. This almost looks a lil too corny for my taste (I know, the original had its haha moments, but...)

[EvilDeadGirl]

Tks for the pic. of the bus CK. Although they look....shit I can't even find the words....retarded maybe? What do you guys think?

[rtatick]

I'll throw in my opinion now :D . This and the TCM remake are two HUGE remakes sending ripples through the horror community. This one seems to be dividing fans less than TCM. I was iffy on TCM, but after the bitchin' trailer, I am looking foward to it. Methinks this is due to the fact that I never held the original TCM in high regards (discussion for another thread, though) and don't really care whether they make a better or worse movie.

Dawn, however, I think was perfect that way it was. And I think more fans agree on this fact than they do with TCM. Therefore, the majority of people are not happy about the Dawn remake. Furthermore, TCM did not have the same heavy message that Dawn had and was, really, a movie about teens in peril. Where's the harm in updating that for the new generations? Dawn, however, is a very important middle part to a fabulous trilogy and contains very pertintent message. Updating Dawn for the new generations can severly limit the future impact of the original.

That I think is the dividing line between the two ramakes. Bring on TCM... I'll be stunned if the Dawn remake turns out to be anything other than a mess.

[EvilDeadGirl]

rtatick, I agree with what you've said about the remake of Dawn. The movie was perfect and an important part of the Dead Trilogy. I don't really want to see this movie get remade either but I'm still going to go see it......out of morbid curiousity.

I wasn't too big on the TCM remake either but after seeing the trailer I've got some hope for it. Maybe the same will happen once they release the trailer for Dawn. Who knows.

[CrazyKillah]

I'm gonna agree here. I was apprehensive at first about this remake and then excited and now, after seeing the pics of these "assault" buses I'm seeing red. Dawn is one of my all-time faves and it doesn't seem like they (the creators of the remake) will be respecting the original too much (based on comments BD posted today about deaths and the finale).

[pyscho dude]

That pic did seem pretty corny. I have to agree with alot of people I mean Dawn is my second all time favorite film and is perfect the way it is while TCM was flawed.

[SeveredHead]

I'll chime in on what I see, as I drive by Thornhill Square every day on the way to work.

-On top of the mall they have a big "HELP We're Alive" sign written in grafitti. I suppose to try and get help LOL.

-It IS being done mostly w/ green screen as I've seen cranes constantly lifting them to the roof and such.

-I caught a scen where people were running around in the parking lot between what looked like an armored car and a truck.

-They had the the whole front of the mall covered in black tarp for weeks. The atrium area is a lot smaller than the upper level in the original monroeville mall. It'll be fun to see how they pull it off.

This is what thornhill square looks like:

http://www.torontomalls.com/mallinfo/mallpgs/thrnhill/images/thrnmap.gif

Everythign east of the food court is being used for the movie, especially the Winers/Zellers part and next to the train tracks.

[CrazyKillah]

Thanks for the head's up, severedhead!

[lockedoutfilm]

SeveredHead,

So YOU'RE one of the passers by who always stop on the road and hold up traffic. Seriously though, they have this big thing about keeping the zombies away from non-set cameras yet they don't block off the set at all. Several times when I've been working people have just randomly wandered on set. That and the GO train that comes by... man did I ever have some fun scaring the shit out of those people. I'm not sure if I mentioned this in one of my earlier posts, but the first day on set one of the zombies wandered off into the functioning part of the mall and gave a woman a heat attack or something to that matter.

The atrium has been blackened off, I'm guessing to shoot interior nights on the set inside. The entire inside of the atrium has been transformed into the mall set, which is basically an 'L' shaped hallway -- there's pics of it on the net... the "Hallowed Grounds" photographs. Really its quite stunning what they've done... its this really slick looking, marble laden set. It was fun to shoot in as well (we did 2 shots on that set).. but a bitch for continuity.
Now, I don't know if they have another set hidden away somewhere (which I don't think they do), so I think this mall is only one floor... which sucks.

[pyscho dude]

So a zombie extra gave a woman a heartattack? Interesting...

[EvilDeadGirl]

Thats fuckin' awesome! about the zombie extra I mean. Dood, if I were there working as a zombie you bet your ass I'd wonder into the functioning part of the mall and scare the shit out of some people. It would be a riot!

[someguy]

Originally posted by EvilDeadGirl
Thats fuckin' awesome! about the zombie extra I mean. Dood, if I were there working as a zombie you bet your ass I'd wonder into the functioning part of the mall and scare the shit out of some people. It would be a riot!

Yeah it would be hilarious. Especially when you get fired for doing it! ;)

[SeveredHead]

Yah, 2 of my friends walked in through the atrium and didn't even get hassled. LOL

lockedoutfilm, what looks better, the old Thornhill square or the new fake mall? Thornhill square is such a dump! :P As I was thinking, it's gonna be weird to see how they deal with the zombies because as we know, in the first movie they sniped em all from the top floor.

What's with the huge "HELP ALIVE" writing on the side of the building?

[EvilDeadGirl]

Jeez Someguy tks for taking me off my little pony! :p

[lockedoutfilm]

The new mall does look a lot better... cleaner, streamlined, IKEA-esque if you will...
and yes, Thornhill Square is a complete dump. Its very very very small as well. When I heard the film was shooting in the area, I quickly brainstormed a list of malls that I thought would make perfect shooting locations. The thing with the Dawn set is that they're getting the location really cheap and can pretty much do what they want with it. Reason being is that they are contracted like they own a store and are operating a business (buying out half of the mall and turning it into a set)... and also the mall is being torn down in October.

I'm going to go out on an extreme limb here, but I think the HELP ALIVE has something to do with the survivors making their liveliness known to others... ? I dunno. Could be wrong ;)

[TheDeadWalk]

The Photos on WetnWildradio and Rayza.net showed that the spraypaintings on the rooftop said "HELP! ALIVE INSIDE!"

As well as on the ground-floor there was a multi-colored "S.O.S." signal.

[TheDeadWalk]

Also...

Perhaps it's up there hoping that some random GON Traffic Chopper would come by?

haha.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Nothin' like a good ol' bump!

Any news on whats going on with this puppy?

[FilmBuff84]

I was doing a little look up on this one, not a bad cast. Ving Rhames, Mekhi Phifer, Sarah Polley, Lindy Booth, Kevin Zegers. Although the guys that;s writing it has the Scooby-Doo films to his name, but hopefully he can make this good enough.

[rtatick]

Originally posted by FilmBuff84
Although the guys that;s writing it has the Scooby-Doo films to his name, but hopefully he can make this good enough.

Yeah, but he's also ex-Troma and amazing work on Tromeo and Juliet!

[lockedoutfilm]

A bit more news for some of you:

I was catching up with some now-wrapped Dawn of the Dead alumni the other day (I'm producing a HD television series which some of them are in) and APPARENTLY they were filming at the marina or lakeshore or something and a dead body turned up. They were unclear as to whether or not it was one of the background actors who fell INTO the water and drowned, or whether it was a body that legitimately washed up. Really, how could one tell the difference?

But apparently it happened. They were filming for about 20 min and suddenly had to be carted back to the studio.

Berserk.

[TheDeadWalk]

I found this listed in the credits on the IMDB website for the Dawn Remake:

"Stunts
Nick Alachiotis .... stunts
Randy Butcher .... stunts: various zombies & Jay Leno Zombie
Henry Korhonen .... stunts
Chad Sayn .... stunts "


I say nothing more.

[son_of_arrow]

Originally posted by lockedoutfilm
A bit more news for some of you:

I was catching up with some now-wrapped Dawn of the Dead alumni the other day (I'm producing a HD television series which some of them are in) and APPARENTLY they were filming at the marina or lakeshore or something and a dead body turned up. They were unclear as to whether or not it was one of the background actors who fell INTO the water and drowned, or whether it was a body that legitimately washed up. Really, how could one tell the difference?

But apparently it happened. They were filming for about 20 min and suddenly had to be carted back to the studio.

Berserk.

Dude, thats messed up!

[lockedoutfilm]

Jay Leno zombie!!! YES! I totally forgot (spoilers ahead)
What they do is that they have this game where they shoot zombies that look like celebrities. One group is at the mall, the other is at the marina. They morse code each other the name of the celebrity and the other side has to find the zombie and kill it as soon as they can (from on top of the roof).

Or so I've been told.

[EvilDeadGirl]

WTF.........that's awesome! Pickin' off the celeb look alike zombies.

[TheDeadWalk]

Well that's a huge relief!

[zZaNuBiZz]

Does anyone know when a trailer will be released ?

[EvilDeadGirl]

Bump! :)

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by zZaNuBiZz
Does anyone know when a trailer will be released ? Not sure, but I think I remember reading in Fango that the release date was in March of '04, maybe the 31st? If that is in fact the correct release date, I'd say we'd catch it about a month or so online before that.

[CrazyKillah]

Just flipped through my Fango again and the release date listed as actually March 26, 2004. Also, BD reports today that a teaser trailer might be attached to TCM. Take this with a grain of salt, though... remember how many times the F v J trailer was supposed to be attached to something?

[EvilDeadGirl]

Thanks a ton for the info CK. Hopefully they'll stick a teaser to the TCM trailer. That would certainly rawk!

[TheJadedGamer]

Anyone seen this teaser poster? I found this one of IMDB 'Dawn of the Dead 2004' remake boards.

[Leatherface2067]

Over at bloody disgusting they said that poster is fake.

[TheJadedGamer]

Well, this is just what I found. I didn't know it was fake and I was just looking for something to post here in retrospect.

And most people know I really don't want this to happen....

[Leatherface2067]

yeah I really wish it wouldnt happen.

[TheDeadWalk]

I would put money on this film being better than anything we've been given this year so far... and could perhaps be the best we're given in '04.

And that includes this year's "Cabin Fever" which was 1/3 American Pie, 1/3 Nodding to every classic horror film (or copying for cheap pops), and 1/3 a shitty Farelly brothers movie. (Even thrilled us with a handicapped character!)

(Note: The only 03 horror I have yet to see is Wrong Turn, but I have always had doubts about movies where the villain(s) are inbreds.)

[ruffbuffy]

Damn, the teaser trailer will be in theatres before the TCM remake......

Damn, I just thought this was just a rumour, but it's actually happening...... Let's hang out heads in shame, people.

Fingers crossed it is still a decent watch......

[CrazyKillah]

Check this shit out...
Dawn Remake Set Pics (http://www.wetnwildradio.com/DAWNoftheDEADsetpics.html)

[son_of_arrow]

Awsome pics! This movie is lookng better and better as I see more and more. The zombies look great and more realistic than the original. It's good to know that Tom Savini is in the presence of the film as he definately should be there.

Bring on Dead Reckoning!!!

[XCoRyX]

them pics didnt really do anything for me...i'd like to see pics of the cast...also,when did they say the teasers coming out?

[TheDeadWalk]

There's some cool, up close pics on www.rayza.net as well.

A few of them focus on the wreckage of the city (Think the opening of Day of the Dead), as we are treated with several delights, including an awesome scope of a tipped over schoolbus with suitcases sprawled out from the wreckage, and a body hanging out of the front windshield as well as one poor sap that tried to climb out of the back(or was just damn near put through it, your call).

Teaser I hear is going to be at the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake showings.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Those pics are pretty kewl. The zombies do look fantastic! Love Savini! If a teaser is attached to the TCM Remake trailer then it should be online somewhere too right?

[CrazyKillah]

It's funny, because I don't think that Savini has anything to do with the makeup on this Dawn retry. I think that he just has a small part in it (as a renegade biker, perhaps?):D

[TheDeadWalk]

Word around the campfire is that Savini is playing a cameo as the sheriff or police chief of the town. (Perhaps deputy, but Sheriff Savini sounds nice.)

Also having cameos is supposedly Ken Foree (Peter), and the actor that played Roger DeMarco in the original.

Also as a tribute to the original actors, there will be a store named "Gaylen Ross" (The actress that played Fran)

Haven't heard if there's any nod to our favorite flyboy or not.

[ManiacJack82]

I just saw Dawn of the Dead for the first time the other day and it was pretty awesome. No doubt, they wont be able to capture the same magic for the remake, but it does look pretty good from the pics I've seen. I can't wait for a trailer. :)

[Soulcrusher666]

I, like many of you. Am eagerly anticipatin the release of the DOTD remake. With Savini at the reigns, we know this is gonna rock.

I saw Day Of The Dead, a couple of months back, for the very first time. And ever since that movie, I have fallen in-love with Romero's work. Although, I don't like the original Night of the Living Dead. But that's just me, and that's my choice to.

Anywho, I'd really like to see a Day Of The Dead remake sometime down the road as well. But if you ask me, what would be really kool. Is to have one last Dead film. We've got Night, Dawn, and Day. Why not a Dusk?! Lol.

Well that's my two cents worth. L8rs all.

[zZaNuBiZz]

I read in rue-morgue that Dead reckoning has been greenlighted by fox search light & was budgeted for 25 mill. But i heard no new info ever since does anyone have any info on it.

[XCoRyX]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Word around the campfire is that Savini is playing a cameo as the sheriff or police chief of the town. (Perhaps deputy, but Sheriff Savini sounds nice.)

Also having cameos is supposedly Ken Foree (Peter), and the actor that played Roger DeMarco in the original.

Also as a tribute to the original actors, there will be a store named "Gaylen Ross" (The actress that played Fran)

Haven't heard if there's any nod to our favorite flyboy or not. thats pretty cool to dedicate a score to an actress,and for me i will like seeing ken foree back on the big screen..hes a veteran of the genre if you ask me...

[Kim K]

The teaser is up at apple trailers and it looks ok I think, I haven't seen the original though.

[spacemonkey]

Hey you guys did you check out this teaser poster?

http://www.creature-corner.com/graphics4/dodnonteaser.jpg

Also, if you have quick time go here (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/dawnofthedead/) to take a peek at the trailer! I hear the trailer is supposed to be released with Texas Chainsaw Massacre so be on the look out for that today if you go to see it (you are going to see it arent you?!)

[Luke-Abbott]

I just caught the trailer for "Dawn of the Dead" and I'm quite surprised by it, sure the zombies may not be slow moving anymore but they sure as hell look cool. Good zombie make-up from what I can see and did anyone else notice this?:

"Tom Savini: Los Angeles County Sheriff"

ps. spacemonkey, that does look good but I heard that was a fake.

[spacemonkey]

yeah I heard that too, still it is kinda cool.

[XpatrickX]

looksl ike a disgrace to me;)

[someguy]

Meh. The trailer didn't do anything for me. Except the song of "It's a Wonderful Life" and the ending part with Lindy Booth was good. Who sings that song anyways?

[Shockwave]

Looks fucking BADASS to me.:cool:

I love the original to death, its one of my favorite horror movies but i still think this is going to be a great movie.

This remake is not a remake.

This is a totally differnet movie. Its characters are different. The zombies move 28 Days Later fast. The only comparison u can make to the original is that this takes place in a shopping mall.

Ill say it again, i think this is gonna be good. The Trailer rocks, the script is tight, its got a good cast, grizzly scenes, and some pretty decent action parts.

Dont think of this as a remake because its not. This is going to be a really good zombie movie that is misusing the name for $$$ purposes. But take out the THEFT of the title and u will be left with a great movie. Mark my words!:cool:

[SpaceMutt07]

Damn, this movie looks kickass. I knew it was going to be decent (I'm one of those people who have high hopes for remakes), but yet again I get my ass kicked by the trailer. Same goes for The Ring and TCM remakes, those trailers blew me away. Looks like a lot of remake nay-sayers will be proven wrong yet again, the same ones who trashed the ideas of The Ring and TCM remakes....just goes to show that there are some people out there who actually know how to treat a movie.

[someguy]

I just found the song title. It's called "It's A Wonderful Life" by Sparklehorse.

[SpaceMutt07]

Nevermind, I answered my own question...

I don't want to waste a post, so I'll just say what's been on my mind:
That pregnant chick's baby is going to be a zombie. Not a spoiler or anything, I don't know for sure, but I bet you that's going to be what happens even though it seems obvious.

[Lynn Minmei]

The trailer made this look like a poor man's 28 Days Later. Why have American horror films been crap lately? And why are we still following this trend?

[Luke-Abbott]

Originally posted by SpaceMutt07
I don't want to waste a post, so I'll just say what's been on my mind:
That pregnant chick's baby is going to be a zombie. Not a spoiler or anything, I don't know for sure, but I bet you that's going to be what happens even though it seems obvious.

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Yeah, I was kinda wondering about that. Is her kid gonna be a zombie then? Does she get bit in order for her kid to become one? Or is it just for a suspence effect like theres zombies coming into the room trying to eat us and then suddenly the woman's gone into labour. Suspence at its finest I would say actually.

But then, if her kid is gonna be a zombie then whats with the part where theres two lasses. One wears a red dress and is pregnant while the other carrys a shotgun. That scene looked like an ending bit or something but I dunno.

I think I'm reading too much into this actually so I'll just stop there, I aint much of a fan of remakes but if one does look good I aint ashamed to admit that it is good. And Dawn's remake looks good. I wonder if there will be a Day remake, theres a Night remake, now a Dawn one maybe in the future a Day remake.

Possibly.

[APzombie]

If you wathc hte trailer, when all the news reel scenes pop up, you'll see Tom Savini being interviewed for a minute with a burning car behind him, and his name is even

TOM SAVINI
LOS ANGELES COUNTY SHERIF

Haha.

thats another pos. thing about the film (the other bring Ving Rheymes).

[myersfan31]

Looka kinda funny.:p :p

Should be interesting.

[CrazyKillah]

I don't know what to think now. I was acutally kinda getting pumped up for this one, but the trailer turned me off a bit (the exact opposite effect that the TCMR trailer had on me). What's the deal with everyone having zombies on coke lately? What happened to the foot-dragging classic ghouls of days past? Eh, maybe it'll turn out awesome and I'll eat my words:)

[myersfan31]

What happened to the foot-dragging classic ghouls of days
Stickin' to Resident Evil. :cool: :cool:

[TheDeadWalk]

I was wondering if it would be feasible for anyone who could produce some stills from the trailer to the boards? I'm unable to download the trailer.

[Invincible]

I really hope the zombies don't run in this remake...as they did in the teaser. As Frank the Tank said earlier. "I want my zombies slow and stupid, dammit

[zZaNuBiZz]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
I was wondering if it would be feasible for anyone who could produce some stills from the trailer to the boards? I'm unable to download the trailer.

Done &Done

[zZaNuBiZz]

The 30 sec rule keeps happening so ill attach all of them to a zip file.

[zZaNuBiZz]

The zip file is 2 big 4mb what should i do now

[zZaNuBiZz]

Blast ill just attach the highlights then

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[ParileseMonster]

Like I said in another thread:

I am not watching this mother fucking shit!:mad:

[Boogeyman]

I saw the trailer in front of TCM tonight. Im witholding judgement, although, the empty mall always looks cool.

later

[Shockwave]

Looks great.

It also looks nothing like Dawn of the Dead.

[Last Dragon]

I liek what I saw. But, then again, I'm a huge fan of zombie flicks, Mechki Phiffer, and Ving Rhames. The trailer made people jump in my theatre. One person said "ANOTHER REMAKE!?!?!?!?!"

[chasingbanky]

The trailer has definetly got me interested

[TheDeadWalk]

Thanks for the pics zZaNuBiZz, that helped a lot. The "jumping" zombie part does look weird, and the one picture looks like the zombies are partaking in their version of the Boston Marathon or something... (The zombie in mid-flight run with sneakers kind of sets off that decathalon theme song)

But still, I hold my hopes for it in being one of the most horrifying pictures of 04.



I am not watching this mother fucking shit!

Damn, there went my potential movie date. What a Bummer.

[poopontheshoes7]

I thought the trailer looked pretty good. I dont really think they should mess around with this one though

[Last Dragon]

THis may be a stupid question, but should this be, or is it, looked upon as a sequel to the 1990 remake of "Night of the Living Dead," or is it purely a stand-alone film?

[CobiWann]

I would definitely not consider this movie a sequel to 1990's "Night of the Living Dead" remake, for the following reasons.

1 - The rules are different. The zombies in "NOTLD" lumbered, to the extent that Barbara suggested walking right past them. In "Dawn," these zombies have speed. Guess rigor mortis doesn't set in. Also, in "NOTLD," the dead didn't come right back to life, but re-animated after a few minutes. In "Dawn," they 'hop' right back up as soon as they expire.

2 - The vibe I got from the trailer was that the epidemic was going to start in this film. It won't pick off when "NOTLD" left off, but start from the beginning. I got this from the news reports and the apartment scenes...I think everyone just gravitates to the mall.

3 - On a personal level...this will have NOTHING to do with Romero's trilogy. This is a "reimagining," not a "remake," in my mind.

[lockedoutfilm]

I really hope the zombies don't run in this remake...as they did in the teaser. As Frank the Tank said earlier. "I want my zombies slow and stupid, dammit"

Oh they run. They run quite a bit. And they're sneaky.

Trailer didn't look too bad. I was in the theatre when it came on, and I turned to my friend next to me (who also worked on the film) and I go "is that the set from Dawn of the Dead?" COMPLETELY not cluing into the fact that it was the trailer at all... it took me a few seconds to snap out of it.

Couldn't see myself in the downtown scene, but I was probably there as I recognize a lot of the people. We ran a lot that day... A lot (chasing Lindy Booth and Ving Rhames).

I didn't think the trailer was that great. Interesting, but didn't give the fans enough to work with -- and come on, a remake trailer in front of a remake? this trailer was for us and us alone. And I didn't think it looked that great either... visually. Then again, I've been bombarded with Texas Chainsaw Massacre footage (beautifully shot) so maybe I'm impartial. The video footage looks heinous... I was really confused on set as to why they were photographing us with a Panasonic AGX DV camcorder (presumably for the DVD) but now I guess I know.

[EvilDeadGirl]

Well I downloaded the trailer and would just like to say that it kinda turned me off. I got to thinking about this one lately and have come to the conclusion that I do not want to see this film remade, although it's already being done.

I enjoyed the original DOTD very much and the stereotypical slow zombies are something I prefer over the fast zombies. Why? Because it makes them seem far more fantasy than a possible reality. This probably sounds nuts but the slow moving zombies to me feel like they are more real than the quick ones. Now when I think of fast moving zombies the first thing that pops into my mind is more of a fantasy than anything.

Knowing me I'll probably change my mind somewhere down the line, but hey that's jes' me.

[Tarman]

Trailer looked decent.Ving is going to hold it down and thats bad ass he's in the movie.Something thats got me puzzled is the girl thats pregnant in the movie.I hope there not going to knock off Demons 2 and make the baby into a zombie baby.

[Soulcrusher666]

I haven't had the pleasure of seeing the trailer yet. But, hopefully I will soon enough. I have to agree with the majority here. Fast moving Zombies just seems retarded to me. After all, it's not like these maw'fucka's are gonna be running a marathon. Know what I mean?! I prefer the wlos, awkward ones. Like in the NOTLD(remake), that Savini did. As long as the running Zombies don't have a f'n shoe tie in with Nike. Then it's all good. But as I said, I prefer the slower, and dumber Zombies. Maybe Savini's going for the "28 Days Later" approach?! After all, they weren't "real" Zombies. Just infected lunatics. Kind of like Romero's "The Crazies". Well that's my two cents worth. L8rs all.

[Lizarrd]

Is there a script out there for this flick? Or is that being kept under wraps?

[TheJadedGamer]

Originally posted by Last Dragon
I liek what I saw. But, then again, I'm a huge fan of zombie flicks, Mechki Phiffer, and Ving Rhames. The trailer made people jump in my theatre. One person said "ANOTHER REMAKE!?!?!?!?!"

Hey, I said that...but we don't live near each other, so whatever. And what I said was "Fuck god no! Don't put me through this shit again! NOT ANOTHER FUCKING REMAKE!?"

[Soulcrusher666]

I agree, sme films should never be remade. It's like that episode of South Park, where George Lucas and Steven Speilberg keep fookin' with the classic films. In some case's though, certain films should be remade. I would like to see a few certain one's done so. But I ain't gonna throw a shit fit if they don't. Anywho, that's my two cents worth. L8rs all.

[TheJadedGamer]

Originally posted by Soulcrusher666
I agree, sme films should never be remade. It's like that episode of South Park, where George Lucas and Steven Speilberg keep fookin' with the classic films. In some case's though, certain films should be remade. I would like to see a few certain one's done so. But I ain't gonna throw a shit fit if they don't. Anywho, that's my two cents worth. L8rs all.

God I loved that South Park...which reminds me that a new South Park is on tommarow!

[Soulcrusher666]

Oh Hell Yeah, TheJadedGamer. You won't be alone, in those of us that watch it. Sweeeeet! Glad, I was able to make a crediable point though. Lol That's all I had to say. L8rs all.

[TheDeadWalk]

Things have been quiet after the giant trailer uproar from the folks on here, so I figured I would post a rumored character description of all the characters that live inside the mall.

-This is taken from a post from another message board that I visit off-and-on. I will add some of my key comments in italics in the midst.

SPOILERS FOR DAWN OF THE DEAD (Possible fakes, or have been written out of the script.)



THE MALL RESIDENTS:

ANA CORTEZ - A young, attractive nurse. At the beginning of the movie she is in a state of shock and depends on the protection of other, but later in the movie she pulls herself together and proves to be quite a strong and smart woman. This has been proven to be Polley's character... dur.

KENNETH - A tough black cop in his late forties (played by Ving Rhames). He rescues Ana early in the script. After recieving an injury, Ana helps him. Rhames takes on the closest thing to Peter Washington.

MICHAEL - A man that leads Ana, Kenneth, and a few others into the mall. He's sort of the leader of the group, and him and Ana develop a... thing. At first glance, he looks sorta like Stephen from the original...

CJ - A young man. Usually involved in zombie battles. Very vague definition... I think this guy will be one of those unpredictables that you will either root for, or is so damn annoying you can't wait to see his throat get ripped out.

NICOLE - A normal goofy kid who loves dogs and always does goofy things. When things get hot, she still acts silly. Said to be Lindy Booth's character...

TERRY - A teenage stoner that acts odd (but funny) at times. Him and Nicole develop a friendship, but not a romantic thing, just friends. This is the dude from Air Bud I believe... and seems to be reprising his stoner role with Lindy Booth once again from Wrong Turn...

STEVE MARKUS - One of the main characters and leaders of the group.

PEACOCK - A gangbaner on the edge. Mehki Phifer? I also think the name has been changed to Andre.

LUDA - Peacock's pregnant Russian girlfriend.

FATHER GLENN - A priest. He's kind of a reserved religious man at first but quickly does what he has to do to survive and to help others.

GOTH CHICK - A goth chick. What else can I say? Hmmm... I had thought this was Lindy Booth for a while... maybe they combined the two characters?

FAT MAN - A fat slob that panics in bad situations and runs away when others need his help, -deleted pointless spoiler- This has got to be affirmative from the trailer, in that hilarious bit where he tries on a woman's shoe with a kneehigh... hahaha.

NORMA - A woman. Her and Peacock become at odds over something. This is supposed to be the older female role played by Jayne Eastwood, who was on SCTV.




OTHER CHARACTERS:

LUIS CORTEZ - Ana's husband. Deleted pointless comment.

ANDY - A gentle man trapped in a gun shop across the street from the mall. He communicates back and forth with the members of the mall by them writing on dry erase boards and looking at it through binoculars. Andy and Kenneth develop a strong friendship. When Andy runs out of food, Kenneth decides he's not going to sit around and let his friend die, so he starts to put together a plan. I'm jacked about this plot element of giving us that claustrophobic feeling where we can only see this man from a distance, and the terrors that he must go through himself, but our "friends" are limited to dealing with in help. Also, I think this is where that dreaded "zombie dogs" element comes in that people are talking shit about. Andy's gun shop was created and filmed on location, that is a fact. Some of it's design shots can be found at Rayza.net.

VIVIAN - Ana's neighbor, a little girl. -Deleted pointless comment.

[Final Girl]

Has anyone actually read the script for the remake? If so, I have a PM question I'd like to ask you.

Please let me know. Thanks... :)

[TheDeadWalk]

I've gotten a lot of spoilers from a few people that have read the Gunn script, and both have told me the same basic detail from what they read and both were consistent... I may be able to answer a question or two...

[Final Girl]

DW, I PMd you a question. Thanks!!

[Prime Suspect]

I must admit, at first I was completely opposed to a remake of a classic. The original was AWESOME just the way it was. Not to mention it was fucking gory. However, no matter how much I hated the idea, the moment I saw the trailer I thought it looked good. Honestly though, it doesn't look like it's going to be half bad. I know for sure that I will have my ass surgically attached to the theater seat come opening night. I just wonder how it will fair considering Resident Evil: Apocalypse will arrive in theaters the same month. Anywho, I admit it, it looks good to me. Bring It On.

Later

[charles lee ray]

Originally posted by Prime Suspect
I must admit, at first I was completely opposed to a remake of a classic. The original was AWESOME just the way it was. Not to mention it was fucking gory. However, no matter how much I hated the idea, the moment I saw the trailer I thought it looked good. Honestly though, it doesn't look like it's going to be half bad. I know for sure that I will have my ass surgically attached to the theater seat come opening night. I just wonder how it will fair considering Resident Evil: Apocalypse will arrive in theaters the same month. Anywho, I admit it, it looks good to me. Bring It On.

Later

The trailor looks good? there isnt a single damn zombie in it and this IS a zombie move!!! WTF!!

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by charles lee ray
The trailor looks good? there isnt a single damn zombie in it and this IS a zombie move!!! WTF!! Are you sure that you saw the right trailer? There are TONS of undead in the trailer I saw (at apple.com and before the TCM remake).

[charles lee ray]

Originally posted by CrazyKillah
Are you sure that you saw the right trailer? There are TONS of undead in the trailer I saw (at apple.com and before the TCM remake).

i may have seen the teaser or something. but it was before the TCM remake. all that happened was peoplelooked like they were having fun in a mall at the beginning and then a guy on TV says that they are going off the air or something. i'll go to apple.com and see if its the same trailor i saw.

[charles lee ray]

well, i guess it did have some zombies...but they weren't too empressive...but neither were the ones in the original

[TheDeadWalk]

well, i guess it did have some zombies...but they weren't too empressive...but neither were the ones in the original

It seems that a lot of people have been dissappointed with the trailer, and some of them due to the fact that when they think Dawn of the Dead, they think "ZOMBIES/GORE, ZOMBIES/GORE, ZOMBIES/GORE... etc."

As you kind of subtly said it Charles, I'll divulge into it further.

The original wasn't all about zombies and gore. The zombies, and impending Armageddon was kind of a subplot for the film, and the film's basic premise was the people inside the mall as it poked lessons about 70's consumerism, and begged the question of "At the dawn of armageddon, will we still want to have it all, and what price will we take to "have it all"?"

I feel that the film so far, may still be about this, only poking at today's consumerism, as I'm sure with the trailer's impending doom of the electricity of what to do when you had it all, and perhaps should have walked away while you were ahead.

I could be wrong, but I'm in a hurry and need to split, I may indulge on this later if anyone has a retort.

[Prime Suspect]

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head there Dead. And I personally think that the trailer looked pretty kick-ass. It damn sure surprised me. Needless to say that I will be there fo-sho when it comes out. Maybe that's just me though.

Later

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Prime Suspect
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head there Dead. And I personally think that the trailer looked pretty kick-ass. It damn sure surprised me. Needless to say that I will be there fo-sho when it comes out. Maybe that's just me though.

Later

I too will be in the theater on opening night of this Dawn remake. This is also one of the few and far-between films that I'm trying not to go into the theater with a certain negative "hindsight bias", where I feel the film is going to be horrible before it even starts.

A few glimpses of quick moving zombies I don't think is going to be enough to turn me away... But I will definately get a tad bit pissy if I hear DMX playing in an updated trailer. (Like house of the dead)

[TheDeadWalk]

SOME NEW SET PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sarah Polley Vs. "Nanna Hooter"!
http://www.wetnwildradio.com/images/Img33.jpg


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http://www.wetnwildradio.com/images/Img32.jpg


I just read in a "rumor" article today, that there will be three different zombification stages in this film, and the "last stage" is the Romero-ish type zombies.

[Psyco Chick18]

I'm watching the original one for the first time right now, and it's pretty bad ass. I don't think i'll be checking out the remake.

[TheDeadWalk]

Anyone think it would be bad ass to show a survivor elsewhere that quickly gets bitten, and we see his sickness progress until he becomes a zombie, and then heads to the mall?

I think this could give some character depth for a "lead" zombie, or maybe a few more...

-- I once had an idea on a zombie script that one of the antagonists kills a man for his car before finding shelter somewhere, and during the big "escape to the boat" sequence, the antagonist slips, injuring himself (perhaps falling off of a ladder, breaking a leg/or paralyzing himself) and the man that he killed (now a zombie) gets a chance to feast upon him while he can't move. That would be killer in my opinion.

[Soulcrusher666]

I finally got around to seeing the "teaser" trailer for this flick today. And if you ask me, it looks Bad Ass! I don't know why so many peeps were knocking it. I am even more stoked about this film now. And am def. looking forward to the March 26th release. See you there, maybe. L8rs all.

[Prime Suspect]

It sure is bad-ass. This one looks like it aims at scaring the shit out of it viewers. Hopefully it does.

Later

[Soulcrusher666]

Hella yeah, Prime. I couldn't agree with you more. L8rs all.

[TheDeadWalk]

New set pics

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[Last Dragon]

Which studio is doing this again?

[CrazyKillah]

The studio in question would be Universal. I'd say that I'm against this remake of a zombie classic, but then again, I might have to eat my shoe like I did when the TCM Remake rocked. Here's to hoping it doesn't embarrass;)

[zZaNuBiZz]

Source: Fangoria

Variety reports that Universal has moved the release of its DAWN OF THE DEAD remake up a week, from March 26 to a March 19 debut. Look for our DAWN cover story/set visit in FANGORIA #230, on sale January 29 and debuting at our Weekend of Horrors convention Jan. 9-11.

[Shockwave]

Cool! Ill most definitly be picking that issue up as this is one remake im greatly looking forward to.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Zombies on the big screen , a bad ass lead , a remake of an awesome film , a decent sized budget , and did i mention Zombies on the big screen ?

Get over your hangups , the film looks like it will be great . Not as good as RE : A , but an excellent primer for that particular film , no doubt .

[Shockwave]

Not as good as RE : A

As much as i think RE:A will improve over the shit-fest of Resident Evil, i still dont think it will provide a single solid scare. It looks to be going down the action lane, much like the first.

[charles lee ray]

Originally posted by zZaNuBiZz
Source: Fangoria

Variety reports that Universal has moved the release of its DAWN OF THE DEAD remake up a week, from March 26 to a March 19 debut. Look for our DAWN cover story/set visit in FANGORIA #230, on sale January 29 and debuting at our Weekend of Horrors convention Jan. 9-11.

where can I get Fangoria???? i've looked every where but I can't ever find this magazine. is there a specific store that carries them???

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by charles lee ray
where can I get Fangoria???? i've looked every where but I can't ever find this magazine. is there a specific store that carries them???

I would check out the magizine sections of either Barnes and Noble or Borders. You could also try the mall. The mall near me has a store that just sells magazines.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
I would check out the magizine sections of either Barnes and Noble or Borders. You could also try the mall. The mall near me has a store that just sells magazines.

Walden Books, or something of the like... Every now and then, a 7-11 ish store will carry them also.

[TheDeadWalk]

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** Note: Notice, the zombies are actually filthy. What striked me odd noticing this, is that in Romero's original, throughout the entire duration, everyone and their clothes remain squeaky clean. (The African Queen with all the golden jewels near the climax of the film, for an example)

[Shockwave]

Those are some killer pictures! This is looking better all the time.:cool:

[sharkstank]

damn, this actually looks kick ass

WWWWHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lockedoutfilm]

Notice, the zombies are actually filthy.
Yes, the zombies were quite filthy. HOWEVER, I talked to Dave Anderson, the make-up department head I believe, and he said that when you're dead, your blood coagulates in your arms and your legs, which is why the arms and legs appear darker...

...that and people rolled up their sleeves when the cameras rolled. Seriously NO ONE wanted that shit all over their arms, it was terrible and hard to get off. I was one of the lucky ones who got mine painted on in a trailer instead of sprayed in a convoy outside. What I didn't like about my arm makeup was they had to airbrush on the veins and I could NOT keep still, it was brutally ticklish.

The picture of Sara and Ving above the 'sea of zombies' was the day, I believe, where the infamous dead body floated up in the marina. I could be mistaken.

Man I miss that set.

Oh hey, I DID end up doing Resident Evil 2, but luckily enough, I didn't have to be a zombie. Thank god.

[charles lee ray]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
I would check out the magizine sections of either Barnes and Noble or Borders. You could also try the mall. The mall near me has a store that just sells magazines.


off the topic

you're right!. I found them at Barnes and Noble. I have never seen them there because they are behind all the other magazines.


sorry for getting off the topic.

[TheDeadWalk]

I found this to be a little interesting...

** Note ** This Q & A was taken from Diabolical-Dominion.com. Mr. Romero Attended a Q&A at W. kentucky University and the following is an Excerpt from that Q&A.


A: Do you think that when Hollywood remakes a movie, like Psycho, or Dawn of the Dead, that they are desecrating the original?

GR: No, I do not share that sentiment. It is like my friend Stephen King says, when someone comes up to him at a book signing, and asks what the thinks of the movies ruining his books, he points to the bookshelf and replies simply, that they are not ruined, they are right there. That is how I feel about movies. The original Psycho is still there, and so is my Dawn of the Dead, they are not ruined or desecrated; they are still there, for people to enjoy as long as people want to. I mean I haven’t seen anything from the dawn remake, someone told me it’s trailer was attached to Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I mean the Psycho remake, what was that, it was re-shot frame by frame, it was more of an exercise than a remake. But no, the originals are not ruined by remakes.

[Shockwave]

GR: No, I do not share that sentiment. It is like my friend Stephen King says, when someone comes up to him at a book signing, and asks what the thinks of the movies ruining his books, he points to the bookshelf and replies simply, that they are not ruined, they are right there. That is how I feel about movies.

Damn right, even thought this remake is going to be NOTHING like the original except for that they both take place in malls.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Yeah , SK should know a thing about remakes , look at the disaster that was The Shining remake , although it followed his book more closely than Kubrick's version , it was horrible .



It's time to get over it already , just because a film is a remake or maybe even inspired by a previous film doesn't automatically mean it will blow , in some instances it just may even eclipse the original , like Night 90 or The Thing , in my opinion .


I doubt Dawn 2004 will ecplise Dawn 78 , not like those two have , but it does look to be an entertaining little horror romp that should satisfy a whole new generation of zombie / horror / action fans . I just wish that G Romero and Savini were the men behind it . And no , a cameo by Savini doesn't count as being involved .

It doesn't matter , i'm checking this new version out , it should be excellent .

[Shockwave]

in some instances it just may even eclipse the original , like Night 90

u are my new best friend.

I thought i was the only one in the world who thought it was superior to the original.

[skweemkween]

I think what some older die-hard horror fans are concerned about - myself included - is that we seem to have a fear that the classics will come to be underappreciated and ignored by new generations. I think we seem to have a certain paranoia that the younger, almost mob mentality, mall-generation we older fogies have come to avoid like the plague, will somehow overlook and "dis" the originals. Like correcting a teenager when we see them disrespecting an old man or grandma. We hate to see it. As guilty as we may have been of doing the exact same thing as a youngster.
It's like we just want to make sure, or have reassurance, that our "classics" will still be watched, and not forgotten. They will be appreciated and respected. And most definetly, that the younger generations will be educated - they will have witnessed the classics and know they exist. How many eyerolls have we made when we have witnessed the ignorance of those that have never heard of the Holocaust, didn't know Paul McCartney was in a band called The Beatles, didn't know there was a band called The Beatles, didn't know there was a thing called Susan B Anthony.

It hurts us to see this sometimes. So , maybe we , the older generation, just fear our older classics will be trampled on and never considered by generations to come. Just maybe that's it. Not so much that we fear new interpretations of a plot - but that a younger, naive, and gullible target audience will never acknowledge and respect that there was one before it.

Personally, I was surprised by the trailer and would see this if it gets some decent reviews by horror fans.

[C-Desecration-]

Just to remind everyone: I'm in favor of remakes. That said . . .

The new visions (or rip-offs, get-money-quick schemes, whatever) of old 'classics'* can do one of two things: if they're good it will get people to check out the original, and if they're bad it will get people to ignore the original. Those choices vary, but they're the basics.
If I've never seen TCM and see the remake and really love the hell out of it, why, I'll be sure to check out the original one of these days (even if nothing about it ever sparked my interest before).
If I've never seen TCM and see the remake and really loathe the hell out of it I'll most definitly NOT go out of my way to catch the original, and might even avoid it.
Yes, the original movies are never exactly tarnished, they're still there for everyone to see whenever they feel like it, but they can be tinkered with. And remakes are ample wrenches.
Take those 2 cents whatever way you like.

And now I'm through trying to sound important. Carry on.


*the term's subjective. I thought both Dawn of the dead and TCM were pretty undeserving of praise, especially Dawn. Although I am interested in the remake . . .

[Shockwave]

*the term's subjective. I thought both Dawn of the dead and TCM were pretty undeserving of praise, especially Dawn. Although I am interested in the remake

I loved Dawn. It was the first Living Dead movie i ever saw and will probably rank in my top 10 horror movies for as long as i live.

That said im very much looking forward to the remake. They shouldnt have even named it Dawn of the Dead its going to be so different but i guess they are trying to cash in on the name.

[TheDeadWalk]

I'm hearing that the full trailer will be shown with "The Butterfly Effect" starring Ashton Kutcher.

[Shockwave]

I'm hearing that the full trailer will be shown with "The Butterfly Effect" starring Ashton Kutcher.

Thats good news. I was leaning torwards checking out TBE anyway but if the full trailer of Dawn is on it itll be a must see.

[Luke-Abbott]

New poster for "Dawn of the Dead" remake, taken from Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=1156&Template=newsfull)

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com//uploads/dawn010804.jpg

Not a bad poster actually, very classic-looking (if that makes sense).
(If the poster doesn't show, just click on the Bloody-Disgusting link to see the poster).

[Fettdog]

Nice poster! :D

Captures the feel of the original yet manages to bring it into the 21st Century at the same time.

[spacemonkey]

http://www.creature-corner.com/graphics5/dawnofdeadpost.jpg

[C-Desecration-]

*looks up*
Oh.
My.
God.

Awesome poster, kickin' trailer . . . what's next?

[Tarman]

Holy shit thats a pretty sweet poster

[CrazyKillah]

Indeed! That poster kicks ass! Here's to hoping the movie does the same thing.

[spacemonkey]

Ok, now I can say Im getting pumped for this one. I want it to be good. Please be good. Please dont suck...

By the way they are going the right way with that poster...its paying homage to the Day of the Dead poster. Using the same colors and all. And I love that phrase!

[Shockwave]

That is the coolest poster i have seen since the identity "handprint" poster. That truly kicks ass.:cool:

[the_ultimate_evil]

Originally posted by Shockwave
u are my new best friend.

I thought i was the only one in the world who thought it was superior to the original.

your not alone i agree with you, i think night 90 is a far better film

dawn should be fun i'm getting more hope for it, i just hope i'm not let down


but its werid i never thought i'd be able to go to the cinema and say 1 for dawn of the dead" lol

[dellamorte dellamore]

Originally posted by Luke-Abbott
New poster for "Dawn of the Dead" remake, taken from Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=1156&Template=newsfull)



Not a bad poster actually, very classic-looking (if that makes sense).
(If the poster doesn't show, just click on the Bloody-Disgusting link to see the poster).


I know exactly what you mean , it looks like a poster from some Italian horror / zombie film from the late 70's / early 80's , and that's a good thing . And it is nice that they used one of the original film's famous quotes as it's tagline , very cool . There definitely not being shy about what the film will be like , i like that , straightfoward and to the point .



That poster tells me , hey we are a zombie / horror film , and freak you if you don't like it .


This film is going to be good , very good , my anticipation level is rising rapidly , can't wait to see it .

[Prime Suspect]

Originally posted by Shockwave
That is the coolest poster i have seen since the identity "handprint" poster. That truly kicks ass.:cool:

You took the words right aout of my mouth man. I love both posters. This one really kicks ass. That streaking effect used at the bottom of their bodies gives a creepy ass feel to it. This one should be awesome.

[spacemonkey]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008G8L9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Just posting this one so you guys can see what Im talking about. If you take out Bub the zombie from the poster of the day DVD release, you got a preatty similar image and color scheme.

Still that new poster is captivating.

[RogueSpear]

I like the poster. It reminds of the scene towards the end of Zombie with the undead shambling through the hallway of the hospital.

[someguy]

I just saw the trailer and I thought the beginning was great. The direction of the movie looks brilliant. Unfortunately at the end it got too similar to the TCM remake trailer. But a nice trailer none the less.

[charles lee ray]

Great poster! hope the movie is great too!

[someguy]

Here it is folks. The Dawn of the Dead remake trailer in Quicktime.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/dawnofthedeadqt1.html

[CobiWann]

Holy Mother of God.

The original "DotD" is my favorite movie of all time. So this movie isn't going to surpass it in any way, and I was one of those against it when it first came out.

I have to say, though...that trailer is REALLY freakin' sweet. I LOVE the ending...it messes with you like the TCM trailer or "Eternal Darkness" for the Gamecube.

I was going to see it before. Now I have to drag someone else with me.

[Shockwave]

Holy mother of god that fucking rocked!! 28 Days Later meets Dawn of the Dead.

This looks different enoughto stand its own ground without the title of Dawn. I loved how real it all was, No corny one liners, no bullet time, just sheer hell. Stuff like this is what made me love horror in the first place.

[TheDeadWalk]

For the 'po folks like myself that can't view the trailer, I found this picture at Fangoria:

http://www.fangoria.com/graphics/articles/1815_article.jpg

[Romero&Juliet]

I cant believe I'm saying this.. the trailer looks not-so-bad.


FUCK./

[HorrorIsMyGod]

Originally posted by Romero&Juliet
I cant believe I'm saying this.. the trailer looks not-so-bad.


FUCK./

Same here! Although I don't think It will be any better then the original of which I loved! It was the first zombie flick I had ever seen at the time! Savini RULES! :p

[dellamorte dellamore]

Another wowzer , this film is looking terrific . I kind of wish they didn't show the scene with the little girl ( shades of Hell of the Living Dead ) . That would have been nice if they left that a surprise . They give away some other surprises also , the pregnant woman is an obvious one ( reminds me of Zombie 3 )


It's a minor complaint because the film looks perfect . From what i can see , the director has aimed to create a sense of urgency and tension that will be sustained for it's entire running time .


The survivors will be under a constant , palpable threat from the undead and the audience will be squirming in their seat from the suspense .


I love the look of the zombies , i like the music , i like the cinematography , i love the mass zombies scenes , i love the reckless abandon nature of the undead , and it looks like the acting will be above average ( how many times can you say that about a Zombie film ? ) .



This looks to be the film that 28 days later wished it could have been .



I'll say it now , this is going to be a hit ( maybe even a minor classic in it's own right ) , a genuinely creepy , tense , exciting , and unsettling horror film , one that the genre has been waiting for , for quite some time . At least with regards to the zombie / action genre .

[TheAxeGrinder]

I just saw the trailer, and all I can say is that it did kick ass in some respects. The zombies did look kinda neat, even though the cuts were lightning fast and you couldn't see much of 'em. No kickass one-liners, though, which disappointed me.

[misfits859]

I remember seeing a trailer before TCM Remake came on in the theatre this summer. I've a feeling this is gonna be a good one. Anxiously waiting!

[Romero&Juliet]

Originally posted by TheAxeGrinder
No kickass one-liners, though, which disappointed me.

Yeah, I'm ahh.. a little miffed about that one, too... ;) ;)

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by misfits859
I remember seeing a trailer before TCM Remake came on in the theatre this summer. I've a feeling this is gonna be a good one. Anxiously waiting! You should try to check to this newer, longer trailer. I think you'll be impressed. It's funny. When word of the TCM Remake first surfaced I was totally against it - the movie turned out to be of my favorites of 2003. The same thing is starting to happen with the Dawn remake with the final product yet to be seen. Come on March!

[Gregorious8]

The only thing I didn't like about the trailer is that the zombies run, and it looked like one jumped onto a guy.

[Fettdog]

I've just seen the long trailer and as a fan of the original (one of my fave movies of all time!) I just have to say......wow! :D

I'm a big fan of 28 Days Later, which despite not being very original is actually a great movie (and I'm not about to reanimate the old "but it's not a zombie movie" debate here) and this feels (as has been said elsewhere in this thread) like Dawn meets 28 Days Later, which in my book is no bad thing!

I especially liked how the dialogue that is in the trailer appears to be almost a carbon copy of the dialogue in the original, with the "I've just been informed that we're going off the air and switching to an emergency broadcasting system" and "everybody they kill gets up and kills" lines. Sweet :D

I'm not sure, though, that I'm completely down with the zombies running - moving quickly I can accept, but running suited 28 Days Later better, where the 'undead' were actually alive but just caught up in a state of 'rage', which made their physical prowess believable. It's a minor quibble, though, and one that I'm sure I won't even notice in the cinema once I'm watching this puppy!

The mall itself looks impressive - from the on set photos I'd seen I was worried that it might be too small, but it seems to be of a decent size after all (god bless editing, eh? ;) )

I loved how the camera follow the car - very nice touch - and the bit where the film begins to blister reminded me of Gremlins (those of you who were old enough to see this on the big screen will know what I'm talking about :) ). Also, the shot following it of the corpses walking up behind the screen was reminiscent of both Gremlins (again) and Demons, both of which I'm sure were a nod to us genre fans...............

The only thing I really didn't care for was the unborn/stomach stretching scene - now, as perverse as it sounds, I can accept the undead running riot, but the way the baby's hand pushes up through the skin just isn't anatomically believable! It reminded me of the original Elm Street where Freddy pushes his face through the (latex) wall - it worked fine there, but takes you out of the reality (in much the same way as Hary Knowles' head did for a moment in the TCM remake, which was otherwise a great movie, and again I speak as a HUGE fan of the original).

So........overall, I'm very impressed and can't wait for this to hit my local cinema - I get the feeling I'll be there on the opening day for this one to see how they're reinterpreted my beloved Dawn, but just remember - even if they manage to totally fuck it up, there's always the 3-disc definitive DVD due out later this year to console ourselves with.

Funny thing is, though, I get the feeling I'm going to love this! :D

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by Fettdog
I'm not sure, though, that I'm completely down with the zombies running - moving quickly I can accept, but running suited 28 Days Later better, where the 'undead' were actually alive but just caught up in a state of 'rage', which made their physical prowess believable. It's a minor quibble, though, and one that I'm sure I won't even notice in the cinema once I'm watching this puppy!

[/B] My thoughts exactly, Fett!

[TheJadedGamer]

Can it be? Am I anticapting a remake?


There must not be a god.


After the horrible (in my opinion anyway) Texas Chainsaw Massacre *cough*Hollywoodbullshit*cough*, I'm getting hyped for Dawn of the Dead. Great poster that doesn't forget about its roots and an awesome trailer.

Then I have to come back to TCM, again. The trailer for TCM was awesome, and made me want to see the movie even more, and I hated that flick.


Let's hope Dawn of the Dead kicks serious ass, or I'm going Wolvie beserker mode on Hollywood.

[dellamorte dellamore]

By the way , i received an email from premiereprops and Dawn of the Dead remake is on their list under upcoming auctions . Save a couple of bucks and try to swipe something from horror movie history .

[CrazyKillah]

Alright, guys and gals, here is a review that was posted over at BD. Read with caution. If it is the real deal, this sounds quite promising...

I received a suggestion (and a good one) from a fellow schmoe that the review should be posted in black, but I can't, for the life of me, get it work for me. That said, only read on WITH EXTREME CAUTION...

WARNING! WARNING! SPOILERS MAY FOLLOW!!!!!













Earlier this week I received a photocopied ticket for a free screening of an upcoming movie in Laguna, CA. The only thing I went in knowing was that the picture was being produced by Universal and will be released sometime this year. Well to my surprise, it was a screening for the upcoming remake of DAWN OF THE DEAD. I couldn't believe it, it took me awhile to catch my breath.

PLEASE NOTE that much of the film was in early editing stages. Some of the CGI work wasn't completed.

(SOME SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!):

Much of the original's story is intact. The basic synopsis of survivors battling flesh-eating zombies in a major city mall is all here. But the real treats deal with little from the original.

First off, this isn't your daddy's Dawn of the Dead. This updated version contains vast amounts of gore. Although the original had its share, this film blows the lid right off of what is tolerable of onscreen violence. I have a strong feeling that the MPAA is going to take a shredder to most of it. Quiet notably, a scene involving a character's suicide attempt by jumping off a roof into the sea of ghouls below. That had to hurt.

The zombies in this version are absolutely terrifying. Never since my childhood life in the early 80's have I cowered in my seat over movie monsters. These ghouls are well made-up and extremely fast. Their moans and screams for flesh are spine tingling. Like the zombies in the original, these guys are force to fear. I REALLY would hate to wake-up one morning and find these suckers outside.

Zack Snyder's directing is amazing. I was shivering (maybe because of the A/C?) in my seat most of the film. The opening is shot with absolute perfection. One particular scene involves Sarah Polly's character first setting foot into the zombiefied world outside of her home--chilling, just chilling. Snyder manages to keep the pace moving at all times. Never once was I checking my watch or changing my seat position.

There are some shots (i.e. transformations and a nifty little elevator sequence), which are basically update versions from the original. I hope you all liked the trucks blocking entrances scene in the original because it is in here also.

The action is all balls to the walls. If you were disappointed by the lack of zombie action in Resident Evil and 28 Days Later, this film will please the undead appetite that has been waiting in you for 15 some odd years. Its fast, its relentless, and boy is it SCARY. I had to beat the little girl inside of me that wanted to scream out in response--especially during the final 30 minutes. Speaking of which, contains some of the best well-crafted, gut-munching, undead action sequences that I've seen in my twenty-year life. My favorite includes surviving characters drive huge armored vans through a literal sea of zombies and the fight that precedes after the vehicle is trashed halfway through.

As for the zombie's supper, I found that most of the actors were surprisingly good (except for that kid who was in Air-Bud). It was a nice treat to see Rhames firing endless rounds into the heads living dead. Sarah Polly, who I've only seen in one film before this, gives a perfect performance. In the beginning of the film she reminds me very much of Barbara from the NOTLD, weak and in shock. Well, as the film goes on, and the zombies enter the mall in vast amounts, she toughens up and kicks ass. Phifer hasn't changed much from his other roles. He plays the foul-mouthed asshole, like he does best. The only comment I'll give on that Air-Bud kid (what's his name anyway) is to stick to Disney--you CAN'T do horror.

On the negative side, the music, although not completely finished, does not suit the film at all. It does create good goose bumps during the more creepier moments, but the action score(s) are cliché garbage. If only they stuck to the Goblins.

Also, was there really a need to show that much male nudity? It was more disgusting than some of the make-up and gore effects. I get the fact that cadavers at morgues and hospitals are naked, but are they all men? Where's the ladies, I don't want to see zombies with their ding-dongs flopping around.

And finally, the quote and tagline "When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth" is used to the max. I get it all ready. I get it!!!

I'll admit, I was one of the first to jump onto the 'Hate DOD Remake Bandwagon' when the film was first announced last year. After finally seeing the film, and its not even completely finished yet, I was kicked in the ass and knocked all around the theater by how fun and SCARY it was. If the studio will fix the small amount of negative aspects, we might have one the best remakes and zombie movies on our hands. Sorry Nispel and Leatherface.

[TheDeadWalk]

Gary of WetnWild radio got to interview director Zach Snyder, and I figured I'd post it here... but if you need the link, it is here:

http://www.wetnwildradio.com/Interviews.html


*CONTAINS SOME VERY MILD SPOILERS*

On January 10th 2004 I had a chance to sit with Director Zach Snyder and ask Him a Few Questions about the upcoming remake of George A. Romero's "DAWN of the DEAD"

** Please note that due to the restraint of no video equipment for the Interview, I was forced to jotting down Notes. These answers will not be a word for word answer but as much of the Original comment will be displayed with minor editing done to help flow. **

CONTAINS SPOILERS

Gary U. : Some fan's of the Original film feel a remake is not needed, while some fan's feel a remake is needed, What would you say to the Fan's who feel this remake was not needed?

Zach Snyder: Their right, a re-filming of the original story was not needed. We approached this in a fresh new way. GAR's original Film didnot need to be remade, we are telling another version of DAWN of the DEAD.

**** Zach had made a reference to an opening shot of a WGON Helicopter flying by in the opening of the film. To make the Original DAWN fan Audience believe it was Peter and Fran Flying by. ****

GU: Can you comment as to why your Zombies run as opposed to Romero's Shambling Zombies?

ZS: I felt the zombies needed to be a threat, and that threat is, you can't just walk right by them. In the Original film you would have been able to escape.. they were slow... I shot a scene were our hero's had to make a 25 yard dash to safety, if they were slow this would be an easy thing to do, with the fast mover's, you will see our hero's fight for every inch of that 25 yards. It's like swimming in an Ocean full of Shark's.

*** Zach noted that he loves the Original Dawn of the Dead, but felt no real threat in slow moving zombies. He wanted to make sure he got the point across that. when the dead walk...you run. ***
GU: Do you think this newer generation of Movie goer's will have the Hell Scared out of them?

ZS: We plan on scaring the hell out of everyone. We wanted to make sure that you felt the hero's plight of being "Under Siege".

GU: Are there any subtle references to the Original Dawn?

ZS: Yes, In fact during the Opening of our DAWN we take a shot of a man-hole cover, and like evry man-hole cover they have a date. This one will have the Release date of the Original DAWN of the DEAD.

GU: The Gore hounds out there are gonna wanna know, Are we going to have a treat with the gore, and will wee see Zombie feasts as macabre as the Original film?

ZS: Oh Yes, I made sure that we got some real gory stuff in there, on par with Freddy Vs. Jason and Kill Bill. There were some scenes that in one of the cuts I presented, I was asked to Tone it down a bit.

GU : So can we expect an UNRATED DVD then?

ZS : We are planning on it! There is a very good Chance

GU : Did you have Reservation about taking on this project?

ZS : I was psyched about this, I was thrilled to be doing DAWN of the DEAD. es there were times on the set I was overwhelmed, but I am extremely thrilled to be involved.

GU: Will the remake keep the die hard fan's wanting more?

ZS: Yes it will, We tried to make it more Violent and Hard.

GU: Thank you Zach

ZS: Your Welcome

**** Side notes, Zach and I enjoyed the talk we had and posed for some pictures. Click here to check them out. I was supposed to Interview Actor Ving Rhames, but he didnot make it to the event due to a scheduling conflict which kept him on the set of his new film. I was supposed to Interview the Actor's as well but was cut short by the PR rep. I also spoke to Eric Newman and I asked him how he felt about this project.... "I am excited" he stated. During the Q&A at the Tony Timpone Moderated event in the Hotel when Zach and Eric were asked about CGI they replied "our CGI is only for duplication of the zombies" Zach stated " I wanted actor's in make-up..not CGI"

Another question asked was "will Strike and Universal Remake Day of the Dead?" Eric Newman replied " we have not ruled anything out, if DAWN 04 is successful, then we may have a sequel" To name the sequel Day of the Dead would fit... but at this time we haven't touched upon it."

Well that's about it for now...as I said with no personal video or recording equipment allowed I had to take a lot of notes. at a later date I will try to translate more of this into a full blown article. In the meantime don't forget DAWN will be Released March 19th 2004. Eric Newman and Zach Stated this as fact. And also don't forget to pick up your copy of Fangoria with the BTS look at DAWN 04. It goes on Sale January 29th.



thanx everyone



Gary U.

Wet n Wild Radio dot com

[Final Girl]

Great trailer. Although with all those running zombies, maybe the tagline should be:

WHEN THERE'S NO MORE ROOM IN HELL...

THE DEAD WILL RUN THE EARTH.

Can't wait...:D

[Jess]

As for the zombie's supper, I found that most of the actors were surprisingly good (except for that kid who was in Air-Bud).

The only comment I'll give on that Air-Bud kid (what's his name anyway) is to stick to Disney--you CAN'T do horror.


But...but...but...he's hot! Nooooooo!

[freddy666]

When I first heard they were remaking this movie, i was a litle upset. The original is such a classic and definately in my top 5 of favorites all time. But after seeing this trailer I am extremely excitedabout this. I cant wait. I think it will be really good.

[TheJadedGamer]

Originally posted by Jess
But...but...but...he's hot! Nooooooo!

Deal with it. He CAN'T act, but he was superb in Air Bud 2: Golden Reciever!

I still can't believe I want to see this. Damn marketing gimmicks! ARGH!!!!

[Fettdog]

Originally posted by Final Girl
Great trailer. Although with all those running zombies, maybe the tagline should be:

WHEN THERE'S NO MORE ROOM IN HELL...

THE DEAD WILL RUN THE EARTH.

Can't wait...:D

Very apt, on a number of levels! :D

[TheDeadWalk]

Lately I've been sort of wondering about this version of Dawn, and how folks from the get-go have mentioned how Dawn stood for the consumerism of the times, and proved as a social commentary, and that any remake of the sort would just not be so.

Now this isn't to really debate that topic, but more to step away from it, and look at it from a different perspective. Romero's film was in the seventies, and the consumerism was the drive of those times. Today however, is much different now. Consumerism and economics play a definitive role, but any sort of societal message at this day and age wouldn't be trying to impose on that I don't believe.

Instead, as I will "beat the dead horse" and bring up the fact that we are a post 9/11 society. One that in recent times has seen several conflicts involving the likes of Kosovo, Bosnia, Somalia, and the Gulf War to name a few examples. Life has changed now, as fear and panic has run amuck many Americans lives since that day, and the whispers of terrorists like Al Queda have prompted people to "Stay out of malls Halloween 01" and watch to see how high the "terrorist alert" is on CNN. Could this film instead be about straight terror, with the zombies proving to be a metaphor for the terrorists and the after-effects of what they can do?

For example, it is indeed the recently dead that are reviving, but the problem comes with the containment of it. People unable to handle the situation, and therefore just become a significant part of the problem within itself. What started as a significant overnight terror, has literally ballooned itself within hours and days of such tragic events.

And the zombies, as humans, or rather human-esque goes back to the quote that Barbara used in the revamped Night of the Living dead when she cited: "They're us. We're them, and they're us." True as it is, a quite tragic look at how we are the ones that built this society, and it shall be us who throw the first stones to tear it down.

My point: It may not even be ATTEMPTING to strike at consumerism... but using the metaphor to deal with 2003-04, and define our very own time period with this film.

[Draven2277]

went to see "Big Fish" yesterday (great movie by the way), and caught the trailer for the DOTD remake. Looks like it's going to be a pretty decent movie. the trailer was excellent. i, for one, will be on line to see this!! plus it has a pretty decent cast (especially ving rhames and sarah polley)!

[teenkiller]

Unfortunately I have not gotten to see this movie. I saw the original and Day and loved them though so I'm sure Dawn is also a classic. I hope to view it before I see the remake so I am crossing my fingers that the dvd will be released before the new version hits fingers. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by teenkiller
Unfortunately I have not gotten to see this movie. I saw the original and Day and loved them though so I'm sure Dawn is also a classic. I hope to view it before I see the remake so I am crossing my fingers that the dvd will be released before the new version hits fingers. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

The original Dawn is very much worth a look-see. I actually "blind-bought" it a few years ago at Blockbusters, and have loved it as well as the other Romero dead movies. It seems to have an either "hit or miss" ratio with all of the horror fans, but if I could make a wishlist for "definitive horror films that ought to be viewed at least once in a genre fan's lifetime", Dawn would be high up on that list, as well as the original Night of the Living dead.

[CrazyKillah]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
The original Dawn is very much worth a look-see. I actually "blind-bought" it a few years ago at Blockbusters, and have loved it as well as the other Romero dead movies. It seems to have an either "hit or miss" ratio with all of the horror fans, but if I could make a wishlist for "definitive horror films that ought to be viewed at least once in a genre fan's lifetime", Dawn would be high up on that list, as well as the original Night of the Living dead. Well put. That said, I'm going to hold off on purchasing this new Dawn DVD and wait until they release the multi-disc'r later in the year.

[teenkiller]

Yeah I am also waiting for the Dawn multi disc dvd release. So when does this masterpiece come out guys? Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.