California: A place where celebrities rule....literally.

[inglourious basterd]

Last year we Californians had an electricity crisis. This year we have cutbacks in our education budget. Consequently, there will be a recall election against Gov. Gray Davis.

What is more interesting than the politics is who is jumping into the spotlight. Arnold Schwarznegger is expected to announce his candidacy on Wednesday during Leno. (Source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&ncid=762&e=4&u=/nm/20030801/en_nm/politics_schwarzenegger_dc )

http://www.weirdchiefpictures.com/arnoldschwarzenegger.jpg

Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler magazine, is also tossing his hat into the ring. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall_flynt)

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Outside of California, Jerry Springer is expected to make an announcement about becoming the Senator of Ohio (Source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20030729/lo_wlwt/1716279 ).

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What think you of the recent political involvement of celebrities?

[Beeblebrox]

I'm voting for Larry Flynt. Nothing would bring me greater joy than for those recall assheads to get Larry Flynt as governor. That's what I call poetic justice.

Larry Flynt for governor!

BTW, I think Arnold is not going to run. That's what I heard at any rate.

[RogueSpear]

I don't think Arnold is going to run. At least not in this recall election. That article and a few others clearly say that he is leaning against running for governor.

As for the other two...I don't see them getting elected.

[Cosimo]

I think whether he'd run all depended on the success of T3, it was more of a back up plan.Politicians are for the most part a bunch of ass holes.....Arnie aint one of them!

[BorderEevilIII]

I mixed on Ahnuld as Gov. And yeah I heard that hes NOT running but yet planning to announces his decision On Jay Leno? I smell ratings booster here....

[XvoorheesX]

I thought that Jerry Springer used to be some sort of politician, got fired due to some scandal, and then entered the world of day-time tv. Anyways, it would be nice to see him back.
I'd like to see all those people get elected. It would prove my point that if a coke-snorting fascist can become president, anyone can get elected.. but that's another rant.

[RogueSpear]

Originally posted by XvoorheesX
I thought that Jerry Springer used to be some sort of politician, got fired due to some scandal, and then entered the world of day-time tv.

Yep, he used to be the Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio and got into trouble after he solicited a couple of prostitutes and then paid with a personal check.

[Scarface98.9]

This has been an interesting issue that's come up for Arnie, but I'm still pulling for this guy to run:

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/spun11.jpg

[The Postmaster General]

I say it's great! They can fuck it up just as much as a non-celebrity, and at least be photogenic while doing it.

The Larry Flint thing really threw me off when I heard it today. Good stuff all around. He has a snow balls chance in hell, because the public doesn't like pornographers.

First, they have the conservative crowd immediately against them, and then they have the closet pervs, who probably buy everything Flynt puts out, but for some reason aer more scared of people seeing their votes, than people seeing them masturbate.

I don't get it. I once heard a girl tell me that she was voting Bush because she didn't want to let her parents down.

It's a secret ballot, you dumbasses!

[Grebdron]

From what I understand, Maria has told Arnie that he won't run. Remember, she lost two uncles to assassination. She's uncomfortable with it.

But this has been going on for years folks. Ronald Reagan was a B-movie actor, and look where that got him.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Grebdron
From what I understand, Maria has told Arnie that he won't run. Remember, she lost two uncles to assassination. She's uncomfortable with it.



I heard that the plan was to breed bullet-proof Kennedys.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I heard that the plan was to breed bullet-proof Kennedys.

They've already perfected the "pickled" Kennedy.

Teddy.

[Invincible]

Arnold wont run...period.

[Strider]

I'd really like for Schwarzenegger to run for governor for California, I would vote for him in a heartbeat. He would be much better than that son of a bitch who's currently running my state. Still, I doubt he'll run, his wife will stop him. Maria Shriver doesn't want him to run because it won't look *that* great among the public or media eye if Schwarzenegger were to become the Californian governor. And besides, her lovely uncle keeps bitching at how he's totally against Arnold running.

When Schwarzenegger appears on Jay Leno on Wednesday, I don't think his intentions will be to announce his candidacy. More like an announcement that "he'll be back" in T4.... :D

Strider

[Jon Lyrik]

Jerry Springer becoming the Senator of Ohio?

*shudders*

[Invincible]

Originally posted by Strider


When Schwarzenegger appears on Jay Leno on Wednesday, I don't think his intentions will be to announce his candidacy. More like an announcement that "he'll be back" in T4.... :D


Hope dats true. http://216.40.249.192/s/contrib/Bizkit/sweat.gif

[MarkItZero]

Originally posted by Grebdron
They've already perfected the "pickled" Kennedy.

Teddy.

Nice. :p

[James Logan]

LARRY FLYNT FOR GOVERNOR!

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Strider
I'd really like for Schwarzenegger to run for governor for California, I would vote for him in a heartbeat. He would be much better than that son of a bitch who's currently running my state.

Eh? OK, I'm not from California, I don't pretend to be. But, as Bill Maher said last night, I'm unsure as to what Gray Davis' crime was. Sure, he may have fucked the economy a tad. Well, so did Bush! Who's calling for Bush's recall? No one! California RE-ELECTED Gray Davis LAST NOVEMBER to be governor, now you're going to take it away from him in a preposterous, $50 million right-wing conspiracy recall? Jesus...I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm from the East Coast, but I don't like the idea of changing up leaders in the middle of a term. Give him a chance to get it right. And I think it's funny that there are 34 million in your state, yet a recall petition needs only 897,000 signatures. So, if 4 percent of the people don't like Gray Davis, you can get rid of him?

Arnold for Governor...ick.

"Ah, boss? What did you do with the federal aid check?"
"Ehhh...I neeeeded a new gim. Gawt it? Tawk to da hond."

Oy. Then again, I'm not from California, so I'm talking out of my ass. You probably can do better than Davis. But you can do MUCH better than Arnold Schwarzengger.

Anyway, that was my assholish rant. SPRINGER FOR SENATE! :D

*oh, and please note, Strider, this is not pointed at you directly. I'm just curious about people's opinions on the recall situation.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Nate6
Eh? OK, I'm not from California, I don't pretend to be. But, as Bill Maher said last night, I'm unsure as to what Gray Davis' crime was. Sure, he may have fucked the economy a tad. Well, so did Bush! Who's calling for Bush's recall? No one! California RE-ELECTED Gray Davis LAST NOVEMBER to be governor, now you're going to take it away from him in a preposterous, $50 million right-wing conspiracy recall? Jesus...I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm from the East Coast, but I don't like the idea of changing up leaders in the middle of a term. Give him a chance to get it right. And I think it's funny that there are 34 million in your state, yet a recall petition needs only 897,000 signatures. So, if 4 percent of the people don't like Gray Davis, you can get rid of him?

Well, I don't want to start a political discussion here. But Gray Davis has screwed all us Californians over, as well as the state. He has put the state of California into a dark, pitiful financial hole. And Davis should not be given a chance, because he's not going to fix anything anyways. He has not helped us one bit in the first place, and he deserves to get the hell out of office. So in October, I plan to vote to get rid of Gray Davis for good.

Originally posted by Nate6
Oy. Then again, I'm not from California, so I'm talking out of my ass. You probably can do better than Davis. But you can do MUCH better than Arnold Schwarzengger.

You're right, Nate. You can do better. But even if Schwarzenegger runs for governor, he won't win. Darrell Issa and Tom McClintock will prove to be tough competion.

Originally posted by Nate6
*oh, and please note, Strider, this is not pointed at you directly. I'm just curious about people's opinions on the recall situation.

Don't worry, Nate. I completely understand... :D

Strider

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Strider
Darrell Issa and Tom McClintock will prove to be tough competion.

I actually read a poll somewhere (maybe Yahoo) where they asked the question of if Davis were to be recalled, and only Republicans were on the recall ballot, what Republican would you vote for for governor. The results read like this:

1. Richard Riordan (ex-mayor of L.A.)
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
3. Bill Simon
4. Tom McClintock
5. Michael Huffington
6. Darrell Issa

Darrell Issa, from what I hear, is a smarmy, rich, power-grubbing bastard and apparently, California would be sorry if they elected him.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Nate6
I actually read a poll somewhere (maybe Yahoo) where they asked the question of if Davis were to be recalled, and only Republicans were on the recall ballot, what Republican would you vote for for governor. The results read like this:

1. Richard Riordan (ex-mayor of L.A.)
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
3. Bill Simon
4. Tom McClintock
5. Michael Huffington
6. Darrell Issa

Darrell Issa, from what I hear, is a smarmy, rich, power-grubbing bastard and apparently, California would be sorry if they elected him.

Well, I agree with the top choice. If Riordan was to run, I would vote for him without hesistation. I still don't know how in the hell Bill Simon beat Riordan as the republican candidate that one year... what a bloody shame! As for Issa, I've heard that he's currently losing a lot of steam, despite the fact that he spendt lots of his own money on the recall process.

Strider

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Strider
Well, I agree with the top choice. If Riordan was to run, I would vote for him without hesistation. I still don't know how in the hell Bill Simon beat Riordan as the republican candidate that one year... what a bloody shame!

If I were in California (and I was really jaded by Davis, which would be quite possible, I guess), I'd probably go with Riordan too. I hear he was a fairly good mayor of L.A. (although you'd know that, not me), and apparently Simon used smear tactics in the Republican primary last year and ended up thwapping him by something like 19 points. Ouch. Anyway, his age (he's 73 - yikes!) and his cranky wife may keep him out of it...too bad, I suppose.

Anyway, back to the discussion...;)

[Jon Lyrik]

Ah-nuld for govenor (I don't live there, but hey, the Terminator for Guv'nor? Why not?).

[jolanar]

and Tom McClintock will prove to be tough competion.


Hmm I wonder if we are related?

[Strider]

Originally posted by Nate6
If I were in California (and I was really jaded by Davis, which would be quite possible, I guess), I'd probably go with Riordan too. I hear he was a fairly good mayor of L.A. (although you'd know that, not me), and apparently Simon used smear tactics in the Republican primary last year and ended up thwapping him by something like 19 points. Ouch. Anyway, his age (he's 73 - yikes!) and his cranky wife may keep him out of it...too bad, I suppose.

Yes, Riordan was a decent mayor of Los Angeles, I most certainly didn't mind when he was in office. If anyone, he would be the perfect choice to replace Davis, in my eyes.

Now, back to the real topic, Arnold! :D

Strider

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by Strider
[B]Well, I don't want to start a political discussion here. But Gray Davis has screwed all us Californians over, as well as the state. He has put the state of California into a dark, pitiful financial hole.

I take it then you support a recall of George W. Bush as well?

Let me guess. That's different.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
I take it then you support a recall of George W. Bush as well?

Let me guess. That's different.

Hmm... "Bush-hating" is becoming more and more apparent among the American people, it's a cliche of sorts for all now. I'm thinking I should join the crowd one day.... ;)

Strider

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by Strider
Hmm... "Bush-hating" is becoming more and more apparent among the American people, it's a cliche of sorts for all now. I'm thinking I should join the crowd one day.... ;)

Strider

I wasn't Bush-hating; certainly less than you were Davis-hating (talk about a cliche).

I asked you a question and you didn't answer it. Typical.

[Jon Lyrik]

Can't we all just, get along?

Oh shit!

*runs away while Beeblebrox and Strider fire weapons at each other*

:D

[Lazy Boy]

I guess I'm pretty much disillusioned with the whole process as it is...
I'm not conservative, and I don't see the taxpayers benefitting from this whole recall fiasco.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Can't we all just, get along?

Oh shit!

*runs away while Beeblebrox and Strider fire weapons at each other*

Repub or Demo, I would oppose the recall. I oppose it because it has NOTHING to do with Davis or the job he's doing. It has everything to do with a power-grab by a small minority of political opportunists trying to game the system. When they say it's not, they're lying. California's problems are not unique. Almost every state is facing one budget crisis or another (including Jeb Bush in Flordia) stemming from the NATIONAL economic problems. It's a national problem and has little to do with Davis's specific handling of the CA economy.

To get this back on topic, I wouldn't really mind Arnold as Gov. He's a moderate for one thing and seems to be pretty level headed. But he'll have his chance to run in the next REAL election for Gov.

[Nate6]

Everyone does know what Larry Flynt's plan for getting California out of the hole is, right? Increasing slot machine gambling, an addiction that tears apart families, puts many people in bankruptcy each year, and is considered being banned by several Canadian provinces, including my own at one time. My uncle was addicted to slot machines; he separated from his wife and his family went lightyears in debt because of it. I'd never be able to support Larry Flynt for governor.

Anyway, if you support getting rid of Davis for putting the economy in a black hole, why wouldn't you support getting rid of Bush for not only putting the economy in a black hole, but possibly lying to send troops to war? Hmm...

But, back to Arnold. He's an interesting guy but again, I don't think he'd make a very good governor. I think he'd be even more fiscally irresponsible than the current governor. Yes, he is apparently a moderate, but something about him still makes me nervous.

And on one final note, this should be in Celeb Talk/Gossip.

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
Repub or Demo, I would oppose the recall. I oppose it because it has NOTHING to do with Davis or the job he's doing. It has everything to do with a power-grab by a small minority of political opportunists trying to game the system. When they say it's not, they're lying. California's problems are not unique. Almost every state is facing one budget crisis or another (including Jeb Bush in Flordia) stemming from the NATIONAL economic problems. It's a national problem and has little to do with Davis's specific handling of the CA economy.

Exactly...

[sr.benitez]

I read in an article not long ago that Arnold siad he WASNT running this election, he was gonna finish some films he had going on and do the promotion for them, before getting into politics....

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by Nate6
Anyway, if you support getting rid of Davis for putting the economy in a black hole, why wouldn't you support getting rid of Bush for not only putting the economy in a black hole, but possibly lying to send troops to war? Hmm...

When I asked the question, I thought for SURE I was going to get the "CA's problems are Davis's fault, but the U.S.'s problems aren't Bush's" excuse. As a bonus, he could have somehow blamed Clinton for everything.

But he decided to avoid the question altogether, using the old "you're just Bush-bashing" dodge.

I understand your concern about Flynt, but I feel pretty confident that virtually none of his ideas would pass, particularly that slot machine plan.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
I wasn't Bush-hating; certainly less than you were Davis-hating (talk about a cliche).

I asked you a question and you didn't answer it. Typical.

Hmm... I don't know about that, Beeblebrox. Your previous post sounded like you're a "Bush-hater", but if you don't want to describe yourself as such a person, then I guess you would have to settle for an anti-Bush type of person.... ;)

As for your question, I didn't answer it because it wasn't a worthwhile question that has many answers for myself to respond back with. But if you want answer, then you'll get one. No, I wouldn't support a recall or impeachment against President Bush. First, he hasn't done anything wrong, anything illegal, or anything that goes against the constitution. But wait, it has absolutely nothing to do with any of this at all. It all has to do with Bush's actions prior, during, and after the War in Iraq, right?
Please, give it a break already.....

Maybe you should've gone to Iraq yourself and fight with the Iraqri's and join forces with Saddam Hussein, since people like yourself believe Bush's actions were so horrible and it was basically just a means of revenge for his father.

Now, if you think Bush is the Devil incarnate, then I'd suggest you go ahead and ditch out some of your own money to start a recall/impeachment rally. I'm sure many would listen and join your movement....

You obviously fail to see how badly Gray Davis has purposely screwed over the state of California. And don't respond back telling me the typical "he needs a second chance, he'll fix everything" response. Davis had his chance, and he screwed up, this is why he needs to leave. This is why we need some fresh blood in the governor's office. But if the majority of Californians want Davis to continue screwing us over for 4 more years, that's fine by me. California can just continue going down the toliet for all I care.

Strider

[Strider]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
Repub or Demo, I would oppose the recall. I oppose it because it has NOTHING to do with Davis or the job he's doing. It has everything to do with a power-grab by a small minority of political opportunists trying to game the system. When they say it's not, they're lying. California's problems are not unique. Almost every state is facing one budget crisis or another (including Jeb Bush in Flordia) stemming from the NATIONAL economic problems. It's a national problem and has little to do with Davis's specific handling of the CA economy.

Yes, I do agree that this recall does have something to do with the republicans trying to get some power, but so what? Are you telling me if it was the other way around, if we had a Republican governor and he was being recalled, that the Demo's wouldn't search out for some power too? Please, neither party are saints (far from it, actually), but let's not make the Demo's look more "angelic" than the Pub's.

Now, if anyone thinks this recall has NOTHING to Davis, then David has successfully manipulated them all into thinking he's the good guy and he's done a terrific job as Californian governor. Bah!!!

Strider

[Beeblebrox]

Still didn't answer that question.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
Still didn't answer that question.

I did answer your question, Beeblebrox. Now, since you ignored everything I said above, then you're definitely the type of person who doesn't like people who don't agree with you. It appears there's a possibility you will continue with this behavior, therefore, there's no reason to continue our discussion any longer.

Strider

[Beeblebrox]

I apologize. I didn't see that post above the last one.

But if you want answer, then you'll get one. No, I wouldn't support a recall or impeachment against President Bush. First, he hasn't done anything wrong, anything illegal, or anything that goes against the constitution.

Davis hasn't done anything wrong, illegal, or against the Constitution either. And that wasn't your justification for supporting the recall. It was because of the California's bad economy, a bad economy that Bush is also presiding over.

This has nothing to do with the war, and the fact that you bring it up shows just how little you're able to defend anything on topic. Your response: "Oh, you find fault with Bush, you must be a Bush-hater since there's no legitimate reason to criticise Bush." It's ridiculous. If a bad economy is enough to recall Davis, then it's certainly justification enough to recall Bush, even if you leave foreign policy completely out of it.

Maybe you should've gone to Iraq yourself and fight with the Iraqri's and join forces with Saddam Hussein, since people like yourself believe Bush's actions were so horrible and it was basically just a means of revenge for his father.

Now utterly pathetic. It's entirely possible to criticize the president and his foreign policy on Iraq without siding with the enemy. You should know. Republicans did it to Clinton for 8 years, up until and including several missile attacks against Iraq that were heavily criticized by the same Republicans who now call such criticisms "treason."

You obviously fail to see how badly Gray Davis has purposely screwed over the state of California. And don't respond back telling me the typical "he needs a second chance, he'll fix everything" response.

I don't think Davis is doing a particularly good job. That's not the point. I don't think Bush is doing a good job either (a decidedly terrible job, in fact). But the voters had their chance and they picked both of these guys (Davis just last November). The voters have to live with it for the duration. It should not be the place of a few rich puppet masters to game the system and overthrow a government by buying votes. I find it absolutely ironic that Republicans called Dems "sore losers" when they're the ones who've tried to turn over elections and oust leaders for little more than political reasons. Those are the kind of unprincipled hypocrites that are leading this recall.

[Strider]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
Edit.

You edited your message too late for me, Beeblebrox. I read everything you said in your post. Unfortunately, I'm too jaded to go back and forth in argument with you, since I will definitely not get across to you. And you will not get across to me either. If we continue to argue, it will continue to become more and more pointless.

Believe what you want to believe, Beeblebrox. And I'll believe what I want to believe. There's nothing wrong with that. Just don't you ever forget the saying, "to each his own".

And on that note, I am banning myself from this particular thread....

Strider

[Beeblebrox]

I didn't see the post above that last one. I've edited my post to address your comments. I suppose I could have guessed what you were going to say and I would have been about 90% accurate (though I didn't expect the "you might as well side with Iraqis" accusation in a discussion about the US economy).

At any rate, the response is there. If you don't want to address it, I won't exactly be surprised.

And to get this back on topic, I still can think of no more fitting governor for these people than Larry Flynt.

[Nate6]

Originally posted by Beeblebrox
But the voters had their chance and they picked both of these guys

That's the only part I disagree with you on. I actually remember George Bush coming in second. Hmm...

[BorderEevilIII]

This is sad that I am counting 9 replies goin WAAAAY off the board about George Bush and the recalling of California Gov. Davis?!?!? HELLO?!??!?!

[Nate6]

Originally posted by BorderEevilIII
This is said that I am counting 9 replies goin WAAAAY off the board about George Bush and the recalling of Davis?!?!? HELLO?!??!?!

Actually, it's not really THAT far off-topic. We're talking about celebrities entering California politics. Gray Davis has a great deal to do with it. As for Bush, well...

[BorderEevilIII]

Originally posted by Nate6
Actually, it's not really THAT far off-topic. We're talking about celebrities entering California politics. Gray Davis has a great deal to do with it. As for Bush, well...

Then if Davis is considered celebrity then should it moved to Celebrity Forum?

[FeverDog420]

<making a weak effort to swing thread back to Arnie> Let Schwarzie be governor, like Reagan. Arnold isn't elligible to be President, so his political aspirations in California won't really affect me.

[Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by Nate6
That's the only part I disagree with you on. I actually remember George Bush coming in second. Hmm...

Good point. I stand corrected. ;)

[Nate6]

Here we go, the story from CNN:


"You know what they say about politics. It's show business for ugly people."
-- Dick Rosengarten

Schwarzenegger announces bid for governor - Springer nixes U.S. Senate race in Ohio

By Sean Loughlin
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After dropping hints about his political ambitions, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, 56, announced Wednesday that he will run for California governor in an October recall election.

The announcement came during an afternoon taping of NBC's "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno which is scheduled to air Wednesday night.

The Austrian-born action-movie star and Republican helped fuel speculation about his political ambitions this summer, just as his movie "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" was being released.

California voters will decide October 7 whether to recall Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, and who should replace him.

At openings for his movie, Schwarzenegger quipped about his "terminator" role and Davis' future, and he has been very critical of the Democratic incumbent.

The actor is married to a member of America's most prominent Democratic political family -- Maria Shriver, a niece of President John F. Kennedy.

The announcement came amid a flurry of such news.

Socialite-turned-columnist Arianna Huffington threw her hat into the California gubernatorial recall race earlier Wednesday while talk show host Jerry Springer announced he would not run for the U.S. Senate in Ohio.

"I can't do it at this time," Springer said, stressing the challenge of overcoming his controversial show, where guests often brawl.

Huffington, an author and a political independent, announced her decision before supporters gathered in Los Angeles, California.

"I'm not, to say the least, a conventional candidate," Huffington said, taking note of her Greek accent. But, she said, "If we keep electing the same kind of politicians who got us into the same kind of mess, funded by the same kind of special interests, we'll never get out of this mess."

Democrat Jerry Springer says his political message could get through the "clutter" of his talk show.

Also, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, released a written statement Wednesday, saying she would not be a candidate in the governor's race.

A representative of Gary Coleman, who played Arnold Drummond in the 1980s sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes," filed the necessary petition signatures and paid the required fee to place the actor's name on the California ballot for governor.

Coleman, 35, who lives in Los Angeles County, could not be reached for comment. But his campaign treasurer, Steve Buel, who filed the paperwork in Oakland, told CNN that the actor's name "resonates with the voters."

Huffington, 53, had said she would not be a candidate if Feinstein, one of California's most popular politicians, entered the race.

Huffington, who has written several books on politics and culture, was once married to Michael Huffington, a former U.S. Senate candidate and onetime GOP member of the U.S. House. The couple divorced in 1997 and he later revealed that he is gay.

Politically, Huffington has moved from being a Republican to a populist-styled independent. She has never held public office, but is well known through her commentaries on radio and television.

The California race has already drawn dozens of contenders, including Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt and U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, who has spearheaded the recall effort.

Dick Rosengarten, editor and publisher of California Political Week, told CNN Wednesday that the California race was drawing so many candidates it was in danger of becoming a farce.

"You know what they say about politics," Rosengarten said. "It's show business for ugly people."

In Ohio, Springer, host of the controversial self-titled talk show, told supporters gathered in a hotel in Columbus that he would not run for the U.S. Senate against GOP incumbent George Voinovich.

Springer, 59 and a Democrat, said he couldn't get his message through the "clutter of the show."

In interviews this year, Springer had strongly suggested he would run and he filed candidacy papers last month.

So let's keep track:
Arnold Schwarzengger - Running for California governor
Larry Flynt - Running for California governor
Gary Coleman - Running for California governor
Jerry Springer - NOT running for Ohio senator