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Mike
08-21-2003, 07:06 PM
This is from Dark Horizons:

Helloween: This has to be one of the more silly ideas I've heard since FvJ hit big. Seems that according to Creature Corner, Dimension Films is scrambling to find a way to bring its two big 80's horror movie icons together in a duel - in other words yes its Halloween's Michael Myers vs. Hellraiser's Pinhead. This nutty idea however isn't exactly new - "House of the Dead" scribe Dave Parker once pitched a concept to Dimension involving the pair and in fact spent his own money putting together a trailer to show what it could look like - Parker may try again now it seems. Thanks to 'Johnny Butane' & 'Rotten'.


Oh man, another VS. movie. I think they will become like sequels were this summer, where people will get really tired of them and complain. I'm already complaining, and I enjoyed Freddy vs. Jason. I think it will be completely stupid if we have all of these VS. movies. Don't friggin' go overboard!!!

Michael Meyers is "good," but Pinhead is lame. By far my favorite 80's horror villain is Freddy. That being said, this could be alright. It wouldn't be as big of a hit as F vs. J, and I definitely can't see it being as fun, but of course, I would still check it out, I just can't help myself. PLEASE THOUGH, STOP WITH THE VS. MOVIES!!!!! No more.................... This is going to get out of control damn it!

I do kind of like the title though, HELL + OWEEN just go together. Thank god they aren't going to call it Michael vs. Pinhead and will at least give it an actual title. I swear it would be kind of annoying if every VS. movie that came out was titled ___________ VS. ___________...

ZoMBiEPeEpSHoW
08-21-2003, 07:13 PM
Hehe... I find it kinda funny how the industry works. I guess this may also be a reason why alot of people complain about Hollywood being unoriginal ( see other thread (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60486) ) But it works just like television. One network releases a ( let's say ) good reality tv show, so other networks have to follow. One network releases a court drama, or hospital drama, the others have to follow. Get my drift?

Anyways, about this one? Meh... I dunno. Freddy vs. Jason worked because they were both 80s slasher types who went after teens. But Michael and Pinhead are too different. One's a slasher, the other is a demon. I dunno if you can understand what I mean. It's like Avril Lavigne's fashion sense, it's too clashy.

XCoRyX
08-21-2003, 07:54 PM
Me= BIGG horror fan....BBBIG time...

This Idea= BIIGG loads of shit...BBIIG time

DevilMonkey
08-21-2003, 08:37 PM
I hate pin head, and love Micheal. . . What to do what to do? Hmm.. . . ... Got anyone beside Pinhead?

Freeway
08-21-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by DevilMonkey
I hate pin head, and love Micheal. . . What to do what to do? Hmm.. . . ... Got anyone beside Pinhead?

Agree. I like the title though. The movie likely won't be great but I'll still see it. And I agree Mike. The public doesn't need a film called i.e. Chucky vs. Leprechaun (They're both small, it could work and would be more hillarious than scary).

DevilMonkey
08-21-2003, 08:52 PM
Actually i change what I say before or maybe I'm adding to it. . .I HATE HATE HATE this idea. Micheal is some pscho in a mask not an immortal or devil or monster. Doesn't dimension have anyone else like that. . They have Ghostface but they reveal his face. . . I'll cheeck it out and get back to ya.

APzombie
08-21-2003, 09:19 PM
Both series have gone to hell in a handbag

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No matter what happens to the franchise (ressurection, hellseeker), the originals will still be remembered as classics

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Why not ;)

i rather see Michael go against Pinhead than a pop star like Busta Ryhmes who humiliates him.

pkmart
08-21-2003, 09:27 PM
This may sooner or later turn into the new thing. Just as Reality TV just won't stop these days....if people are paying to see it, it won't stop.

And yeah, I agree... Myers is my fave slasher of the 80's, but you can't put him up against someone like Pinhead who is a demon...they should have incorporated Myers into the JASON vs. FREDDY movie and had a three-for-all.

What about someone like Leatherface to put up against Myers...at least that way, its "mortal" vs. "mortal"?

The1TrueFrog
08-21-2003, 09:29 PM
Indeed, a vs. situation would probably be a terrible idea, considering it would be a mortal against an immortal [can you say far-fetched?] -- however, merging the two could be creative ... sort of a "Mike Myers Goes To Hell" theme ...

Sad man
08-21-2003, 10:17 PM
I really like Michael Myers, he's my favourite horror villain. And I also think that HALLOWEEN is the strongest series of all the big ones (ANOES, Friday the 13th, etc.) I only watched the first 2 HELLRAISER movies, and don't remember a thing. Only that I didn't like them, and they were really confusing. But I was very little when I watched them.

Anyways, I don't think this is a good idea at all. It looks like the Scream effect is going to happen after all. Making more VS. movies is a bad idea, a big no no. Look what happened to the slasher movies. And Pinhead vs. Michael? I can't picture that...At all.

dh1989
08-21-2003, 10:24 PM
I am shocked that Dimension chose Pinhead to go up against Michael Myers, since they own the Scream film rights, which could result in a cheap, profitable venture that goes like this:

"A deranged young man escapes from a mental institution to Haddonfield, Illinois on Halloween Eve. After finding a "Ghostface" mask in a bargain bin outside of a Halloween mask store, the man goes on a killing spree, which leads into Halloween day. Michael Myers returns to Haddonfield to go on his own annual killing spree, cleaning his home town of teenage scum, but is uber-pissed when he finds out all the prime meat has already been slashed. To stop his killing fun from being ruined completely, he goes to kill the new killer, pitting two of the most iconic horror titans into a battle of a lifetime."

Original? No, but it'd make more sense, and I hate both killers, so I could ignore it, but I LOVE Pinhead, and I'd have to see it if he was in it.... :(

Mike
08-21-2003, 10:53 PM
And another thing. I don't want all of these VS. movies to be where one serial killer is mad that the other for killing his victims and then having him try and destroy the new killer for being on his turf. They did it with Freddy vs. Jason, that's fine, it was more fresh then, but now if all of these other VS. movies start doing it, it will just be annoying and stupid. Also, I don't think the killer(s) from Scream should be involved in any of them, since it's a new killer(s) every time, and it's not like that with Freddy, Jason, Michael, etc... They are forever, they are always the same one, it's never just some psycho in a mask. Hell, a ghostface killer wouldn't stand a chance against any of these legendary killers, they just won't die, the person in the ghostface mask would get his ass kicked.

Anyway, as for Pinhead, if anything, just put him up against the Djinn from the Wishmaster flicks. But then the question would be, would they even bother releasing it in theaters? Since both series have been STV for awhile now.

dh1989
08-21-2003, 11:00 PM
I think it'd be wonderful if all the studios could get together, and make one big Vs. flick and end it all. One big, "get the fuck off my turf and away from my fresh teenagers!" flick, so all the horror fans can cream their pants, and we can all move on.

P.S. 'Mike,' Freddy and Michael have always been themselves, but I think Jason's been an impostor before.

Mike
08-21-2003, 11:00 PM
Hmm, I wonder how Michael Meyers would do against those little bastards from the corn. Dimension owns the rights to Children of The Corn as well. Or maybe the kids from Children of The Corn could go up against the kids from Village of The Damned. And then Cujo could go against Max from Man's Best Friend. They could meet in doggie hell and fight over who gets the bigger kennel.

Mike
08-21-2003, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by dh1989
P.S. 'Mike,' Freddy and Michael have always been themselves, but I think Jason's been an impostor before.

Yeah, but imposters aside, it's not a new killer behind a mask every time. ;)

Hmm, I wonder who the Creeper could go against? Maybe the Creeper should go against the Djinn. I can totally see MGM wanting to do a VS. movie with the Creeper. The truckers in Joy Ride and Duel could go against eachother, and the killer in the upcoming Highwaymen could go against the killer in The Hitcher. Ok, I know some of these wouldn't work, but if someone wanted to make them, they'd come up with some excuse to fill in the holes in order to make it happen, they always do. I just pray that none of these happen though.

Frank the Tank
08-21-2003, 11:38 PM
This is the stupidist idea I've heard all year. Neither are funny and if they want to put Pinhead in the Freddy role it will be pathetic because Pinhead is the boringest monster around.

XCoRyX
08-22-2003, 02:53 AM
how about this for a Vs. movie.... NO MORE...with the exception of Aliens Vs. Predator...leave it the fuck alone.

Skysaber
08-22-2003, 04:58 AM
If they make this movie, it's going to be stupid as hell. We are witnessing the beginning of a new movie genre: the vs. movies.

sharkstank
08-22-2003, 05:44 AM
ugh.
i love Michael, but Pinhead sucks. how would they bring them together anyway?
maybe they could somehow link pinhead as one of mike's relatives and then he goes down to hell to kill his last remaining blood relative. sounds awesome, right?
RIGHT!:p

anyway, i'm still looking forward to alien vs predator, and the unavoidable freddy vs jason 2

dh1989
08-22-2003, 05:59 AM
I pray if all of these cheesy Vs. flicks do extremely well, Warner Brothers further develops a film they pulled the plug on, the ultimate Vs. flick:

BATMAN Vs. SUPERMAN

Now, that'd be awesome!

Lynn Minmei
08-22-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by dh1989
I pray if all of these cheesy Vs. flicks do extremely well, Warner Brothers further develops a film they pulled the plug on, the ultimate Vs. flick:

BATMAN Vs. SUPERMAN

Now, that'd be awesome!

Another problem with the film (Besides casting) was...Why would they fight?

XCoRyX
08-22-2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by sharkstank
ugh.
i love Michael, but Pinhead sucks. how would they bring them together anyway?
maybe they could somehow link pinhead as one of mike's relatives and then he goes down to hell to kill his last remaining blood relative. sounds awesome, right?
RIGHT!:p

anyway, i'm still looking forward to alien vs predator, and the unavoidable freddy vs jason 2

how does one get to hell,how much is the plane ticket?

also as for the why would batman/superman fight...isn't there already comics out of the 2 fighting? Kill me if I'm wrong if you wish,but I remember hearing one of the ideas for the movie was have some villain taking the identity of one of the 2 and killing people and selling drugs and such,and having the other superhero get pissed and start going after him,and have the real 2 battle,then realize whats going on and kick ass together.

dh1989
08-22-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Lynn Minmei
Why would they fight?

1. Superhero methods. Superman may not like Batman's violent approach.

That's the best I could think of, and I think that's how screenplay had it. They were friends at the start, but become rivals, whilst Gotham City is terrorized by the Joker and Lex Luthor.

XCoRyX
08-22-2003, 03:45 PM
or use my plot idea and pay me loads of money to write a script so i can become a big writing name in hollywood :)

The1TrueFrog
08-23-2003, 12:31 AM
This is an obvious joke,
But how's about New Line and Dimension team up for the latest Austin Powers movie, Austin Powers in Halloween...

Mike Myers the villian
vs.
Mike Myers the actor.

Surely Austin could do something with that..
it couldn't be more of a joke than Ressurrection!
:p

DevilMonkey
08-23-2003, 01:03 AM
Austin would win, surely. . Its too obvious, so why make it a movie?

eru
08-23-2003, 04:01 PM
I think the whole Mike Myers vs. Pinhead idea is a waste of time.

However, contrary to what people have been posting in this thread, I actually like 'Pinhead' more (he actually has no name) and am a bigger fan of the Hellraiser series; the first two were great, three was OK, four wasn't so good, and 5 was great (haven't seen the 6th one yet).

eru
08-23-2003, 04:04 PM
How's this:

Gabriel (Christopher Walken) vs Pinhead.

Heaven or Hell, FIGHT! (thanks Guilty Gear XX!)

Mr. 9x
08-24-2003, 11:44 AM
I can undertand why people wouldn't want to see these vs movies happen. But, Im all up for them, only if they don't go out of hand. The key is.....not to release a bunch of these at one time. The studios should give us a time to breathe at times.

I like the idea of how horror vilians meet.

I wouldn't mind a movie with Pinhead vs Michael. but, I can't think of a logical way that they would fight.

I really like the first two Hellraiser movies a lot, the 3rd one is okay, and the forth one is better than the 3rd. The 5th one was bad, and the 6th was..........not as a disapointment as the 5th.

As for the Halloween movies...............I wasn't never a big fan, but I still remained a fan........if that makes any sence. I liked the 1st, 4th, 6th, and the 7th movies. The second was okay. I didn't like the 5th, or the last one.....as for the third...........no michael.

I hope to see Freaddy and Jason vs Ash.

I would like to see Chucky fight somebody some day.

Maybe Dr. Phil can fight Damien?

I don't know............But, i think if we get too much of these movie at one time, they won't be movies to look forward too. Also, if they drain out the ideas.....and come out with something like "Freddy vs the children of the corn".........hmmm.....

But, I am looking forward to Aliens vs Predator.

Dignan
08-24-2003, 09:05 PM
Well, as much as I loved Freddy VS Jason, it seems to have opened up a pandoras box of horrible, half assed slasher VS slasher concepts. Michael VS Pinhead? It's bad enough both franchises have lost what little credibility they had left, but combining the two- UGH.

Moustapha Akkad can suck my ass. Clive Barker must be rolling in his grave. Even though he is still alive.

movielover999
08-24-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Dignan
Clive Barker must be rolling in his grave. Even though he is still alive.

Maybe not after hearing the idea...

XCoRyX
08-25-2003, 06:52 AM
kill me if im wrong but didnt barker say he had faith in the one guys script...

Fight Cluber
08-25-2003, 10:04 AM
I want to see either Freddy, Jason, or Michael Myers vs. Bruce Cambell

XCoRyX
08-25-2003, 11:31 AM
thats the day i go back to my days of trying to commit suicide...

Sugar Magnolia
08-25-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by dh1989
I pray if all of these cheesy Vs. flicks do extremely well, Warner Brothers further develops a film they pulled the plug on, the ultimate Vs. flick:

BATMAN Vs. SUPERMAN

Now, that'd be awesome!

But wait, couldn't Superman just melt Batman with his eyes? That wouldn't be a fair fight...

thebloodfeaster
09-04-2003, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by eru
How's this:

Gabriel (Christopher Walken) vs Pinhead.

Heaven or Hell, FIGHT! (thanks Guilty Gear XX!)


Anybody but Gabriel. Gabriel is a character from the christian concept of heaven. The Hell from Hellraiser has nothing to do with christian theology. Gabriel and his Heaven do not exist in the Hellraiser universe. This would mess up the theme of Hellraiser even more than it's already been messed up.

vtadave
09-04-2003, 04:09 PM
How about:

Rosemary's Baby vs. the demon in Exorcist?

Shit yeah...

Jon Lyrik
09-04-2003, 08:47 PM
The first time I got a glimpse at the thread name for a split second I thought it was an idea for a Halloween remake in the work.

DevilMonkey
09-04-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
But wait, couldn't Superman just melt Batman with his eyes? That wouldn't be a fair fight... But, if they were playing tennis, Batman could use a cryptonite ball, then who do you think would win, eh, eh??

Sugar Magnolia
09-04-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by DevilMonkey
But, if they were playing tennis, Batman could use a cryptonite ball, then who do you think would win, eh, eh??

Ummmm....Supes would wear a lead cup so his groin would be protected. While the rest of him was dying, his gentalia would fly away and reproduce. Later, Superman's children spawned from a flying penis would kill Batman...

moose1132
09-06-2003, 12:59 PM
They should make some "team up" movies as well. They could easily have Freddy and Jason make up lol. Spider-man teaming with DareDevil or the X-men would be cool. Mike Myers vs. Pinhead though.....:( Bad idea. I'd rather see Gremlins vs. Ewoks.