Freddy Vs Jason Question

[sarah1980]

I've seen the movie twice and I'm still trying to deicied if we should count to as Friday The 13th 11,ANOES 8 or a spin-off.Which one is it?

[Cyclonus]

It's too early to decide for sure, but I personally regard FvJ as an eighth Nightmare film, since it retains the vibe of that series, and Freddy gets a lot more screentime than Jason. Nothing's official yet, but it could end up being a seperate entity altogether. It may depend on whether or not any sequels get made.

[XCoRyX]

i call it a spin-off...

[Haddonfield]

Its Friday The 13th part 11 and A Nightmare On Elm Street part 8

least thats the way I see it.

[TheJadedGamer]

It is a spinoff.

[DaRkToOtH]

nightmare 8...i mean it started off with freddy basically continuing right after part 6 when they blew him to shit....it was all bout freddy in this one...jason was more of a side character

[Snow814]

it has parts from both 13th and Nightmare, so the best bet would to call it a spinoff, in my opinion.

[Luke-Abbott]

I say spin-off as well, even the brains of the movie Ronny Yu said it was a completly new movie in one of his interviews.

[KillerKlown]

Spin off

[Cronos]

Its a spinoff or Friday the 13th Part 9 1/2 :D

[Scully1888]

The way I see it, it's the 8th Freddy film and the 9th Jason film, but not Nightmare On Elm Street 8 or Friday The 13th Part XI.

[Santa Claus]

It was a spin-off.

If it was just a Freddy movie then then why was Jason's past being shown? Jason was the emotional side of that movie as well as the babyface. Freddy was the heel.

The story aspect was mostly Freddy's, and I think if they didn't use Freddy in a story situation, Freddy would barely exist in the whole movie. The killing aspects were all Jason though. Freddy only killed one person. Jason was also the bigger threat. He could get you rather you were awake or alsleep. And Jason was doing all the killings and would not stop even when Freddy wanted him to. Freddy got one kill in. And all the best kill scenes were done by Jason. i.e. The bedroom scene and the rave scene....

The finial fight scene also took place on Jason's turf. Not Freddy's.

If you ask me, both NIGHTMARE and FRIDAY fans get there share of both - I think it was equal.

[CrazyKillah]

Put me down for "spin-off" as well. I also don't see how people feel that Freddy dominated this movie - I don't think that he did. Jason carved up FAR more victims (what did Freddy have, a couple?) and was supposedly the character that the audience was to connect with/feel more sympathetic for (though I'm not sure how you feel sympathy for an undead mass-murderin' MFer)

[Santa Claus]

Originally posted by CrazyKillah
(what did Freddy have, a couple?)

Heh. Try only ONE. :D

BTW, I have always felt sorry for poor Jason...and have always cheered him on in his movies. The teens in the movies are morons who should know better then to go there on Jason's turf, therefore I do not pity em' when Jason gets ahold of them. :D

[EDsoulsurvive*]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Its Friday The 13th part 11 and A Nightmare On Elm Street part 8

least thats the way I see it.

same here. I think its both.

[TheJadedGamer]

Originally posted by Santa Claus
Heh. Try only ONE. :D

BTW, I have always felt sorry for poor Jason...and have always cheered him on in his movies. The teens in the movies are morons who should know better then to go there on Jason's turf, therefore I do not pity em' when Jason gets ahold of them. :D

Yep! The way I look at it, Jason is the hero of the 'Friday' movies.

[Santa Claus]

Originally posted by TheJadedGamer
Yep! The way I look at it, Jason is the hero of the 'Friday' movies.

Yeah, to me his movies are more like action flicks and are also sorta like the Rambo movies as well. With our hero tracking and taking down one piece of trash at a time. :D

[Scully1888]

Originally posted by Santa Claus
Heh. Try only ONE. :D

Try TWO :)

SPOILERS - Highlight to reveal

He killed the psycho boy in his room (when the slash appeared on his face after he was set on fire), and he also killed Lori's mother in her dream ("I've always had a thing for the whores that live in this house" - STAB).

[happy_killmore]

spin-off that kinda melds as ANOES 8...if that makes sense to anyone else

[oldskooler79]

Originally posted by Santa Claus
If it was just a Freddy movie then then why was Jason's past being shown?

Jason's past was only shown to actually reveal that Freddy was in it! Freddy let the kids drown jason, and with that being said...I believe the whole "Jason's past scene" had more of a Freddy impact than anything else.

The film opens with the story from nightmare on elm street with freddy narrating, and it closes *NOT* with jason walking out of the water in victory, but rather a wink from the child-killer. at least that's the very last impression that me and others at my cinema got out of it.

Jason did his dirty work and had some good story in the mix, but I feel this had Nightmare written all over it. From start to finish. and you ask why was the whole finale at camp crystal lake then? This is because Monika Keena druged herself to capture Freddy and bring him into our world...this is so a Nightmare element. So yeah...I'de say that Crystal Lake is just a location like anywhere else that could have been used in a Nightmare sequal.

All in all, they both kicked my ass so hard that it wasn't funny and I wouldn't have changed a thing (except maybe bring back Hodder)

[teenkiller]

SPOILERS FOR FREDDY vs JASON!



As far as I'm concerned here are FREDDY'S kills:

1. Mark Davis (who was burned to death)
2. Freeburg (I'm guessing he was killed when FREDDY jumped into him)

and on another note

3. The little girl in the beginning of the movie
4. Mark's older brother
5. Lori's mom

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by KillerKlown
Spin off

What he said.

[LamentConfiguration]

***SPOILERS***
Originally posted by oldskooler79
Jason's past was only shown to actually reveal that Freddy was in it! Freddy let the kids drown jason, and with that being said...I believe the whole "Jason's past scene" had more of a Freddy impact than anything else.

Okay, you are completely wrong here. Freddy was in the dream, but that doesnt mean he was actually a counselor at Camp Crystal Lake. If you go by that logic, then in real life as Jason was drowning, Freddy was having sex with a corpse out in the open for everyone to see.

Thats just my 2¢.

[jack-o-latern]

Originally posted by XCoRyX
i call it a spin-off...

i do 2

[killuminati003]

me 2 jack

[oldskooler79]

Originally posted by LamentConfiguration
***SPOILERS***


Okay, you are completely wrong here. Freddy was in the dream, but that doesnt mean he was actually a counselor at Camp Crystal Lake. If you go by that logic, then in real life as Jason was drowning, Freddy was having sex with a corpse out in the open for everyone to see.

Thats just my 2¢.

I've seen the film quite a few times and this is really the only thing I am still puzzled about...but I think you just cleared it up for me. It makes sense that Freddy wouldn't actually be in the open for everyone to see but why was he there at all? Unless they just decided to throw some twisted dream/real world sequence at us. oh well, you guys must be like 10 times smarter than me because I honesty didn't (and don't think I will) get this.

[Johnny582]

what it was a dream orgonstrated by freddy, freddy can make the dream how ever the f#ck he wonts that includings f#cking how wonts

[Scully1888]

Couldn't have put it better myself. :rolleyes:

[bromhead]

I know I'll get rapped in the mouth for this but I thought Freddy vs Jason logically followed A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 and Friday the 13th part 4.
Therefore I'd call it a unofficial sequel to those two films.

[EvilDeadGirl]

I'd have to go with most of the schmoes that have responded thus far and say itsa Spin Off.

[Evil Life]

spinoff.... im still trying to find out which friday the 13th it comes after tho... it doesnt come after 10 because his face isnt metal, im just trying to get a good look at his face then compare it to the faces in the other friday the 13th... or maybe im just trying to find a reason to watch that series again... if anyone knows what it comes after (according to his face) just tell me it

[Luke-Abbott]

Originally posted by Evil Life
spinoff.... im still trying to find out which friday the 13th it comes after tho... it doesnt come after 10 because his face isnt metal, im just trying to get a good look at his face then compare it to the faces in the other friday the 13th... or maybe im just trying to find a reason to watch that series again... if anyone knows what it comes after (according to his face) just tell me it

I reckon it comes after Jason Goes to Hell (Friday the 13th part 9), because Freddy states in his narrative part that he had to search the bowls of hell to find someone to spread the fear again. And he found Jason, and where was Jason sent to when we last saw him? Hell.

Thats what I think anyways.

[Mr. Peanut]

Originally posted by TheJadedGamer
Yep! The way I look at it, Jason is the hero of the 'Friday' movies.

Yeah, other than he killed/tried to kill some of the good characters I liked.

SPOILERS!!!



Like the maja in Pt. 7, Rowen in X, and a few different characters in 9, also... the general/captain in X (Broad?)...


END SPOILERS!!!

Yes? I love Jason too though, don't get me wrong.