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Damned Martian
09-20-2003, 03:18 PM
Let's name "classic" to movies made BEFORE 1980, OK? Which ones do you hate or dislike?


Mine are:

HATE
A Clockwork Orange (as you should already know...)
Around the World in 80 Days
1941
Kiss me, Stupid
Topaz
Jaws 2

DISLIKE
Halloween
The Big Sleep
2001: A Space Odissey (see above;))
Bloody Mama
Les Girls
Assault on Precinct 13
San Francisco
Meteor
La Mort en Direct
The Fearless Vampire Killers


From the ones i remember, maybe more. Which ones are yours?

Hannibal21
09-20-2003, 03:33 PM
Citizen Kane and Casablanca are definitely going to be mentioned, unfortunately. They always get mentioned in this kind of topic. :(

As for me, I dislike/hate...

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
Star Wars
Doctor Zhivago
The Birth of a Nation
Doctor Doolittle

randythetool
09-20-2003, 03:47 PM
A Clockwork Orange, definitely. Psycho, most of Fellini's work, The French Connection, The Gold Rush, Notorious, Italianamerican (sorry Marty), and a lot of Woody Allen's work before Annie Hall (Bananas, What's New Pussycat?, Casino Royale).

A Clockwork Orange, *
Psycho, *1/2
La Strada, **
Satyricon, *1/2
The French Connection, **
The Gold Rush, **
Notorious, *1/2
Italianamerican, *
Bananas, 1/2*
What's New Pussycat?, **
Casino Royale, *1/2

Cosimo
09-20-2003, 04:39 PM
I really dislike Some Like It Hot, the most unfunny comedy i have ever seen.But i guess im one of the few who enjoyed Freddy Got Fingered which is a far superior movie

Randy Clockwork Orange and The French Connection, c'mon why the hate?

Scarface98.9
09-20-2003, 04:44 PM
The only movie I know off the top of my head is Taxi Driver. I don't hate it, but consider it boring, pointless, and one of the most overrated "classic" ever made. And this is coming from a big Scorsese fans

arby19
09-20-2003, 05:25 PM
2001 - 3/10
The French Connection - 6/10

Scarface98.9
09-20-2003, 06:16 PM
I forgot to add, ironically enough, Scarface. Take everything I said about Taxi Driver, but add in boring, pretentious, dated, and cheesy to get my thoughts on Scarface

zeppelin
09-20-2003, 06:19 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, damned martian, but since when are 1941 and Jaws 2 considered classics? I don't know of any person who calls either of those films a classic. A classic is a movie that is generally considered to be a masterpiece, not just any movie made before 1980.

But anyway, the only classic that I *hate* is The Birth of a Nation, but I'm not too crazy about the following:

The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Wizard of Oz
The Birds (and Hitchcock is one of my favorite directors)
Nashville
Gone with the Wind

MsMoviefan
09-20-2003, 06:21 PM
Space Odyssey:2001
The French Connection
New York, New York
Some Like It Hot
The Sting
Notorius

Ripper1888
09-20-2003, 07:21 PM
Being that horror is my favorite genre you would think that I like these so called "Classic" horror films but alas I hate them.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Exorcist

for some reason that I can't figureout people seem to think that these are two of the scariest most disturbing films evermade,me I think they are two of the most boaring films evermade and two of the worst films evermade.

Other "Classics" I hate

Stanley Kubrick films except The Shining
The Wizard of OZ
Gone With the Wind
Citizen Kane
It Happend One Night
The Sound of Music
West Side Story
Rocky



these are what come to mind right now but theres more

Michael_myers
09-20-2003, 07:26 PM
HATE

West Side Story
Doctor Zhivago
Double Indemnity
Saturday Night Fever

Dislike:
Barry Lyndon
Key Largo

bankholdup
09-20-2003, 08:17 PM
A Streetcar Named Desire


Dear God...what a bore.

Squid Vicious
09-20-2003, 08:48 PM
Is Grease a classic? 'Cause I can't friggin' stand that movie....

MsMoviefan
09-20-2003, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by bankholdup
A Streetcar Named Desire


Dear God...what a bore.
Yeah,I forgot about that one (& others too)
I just wanted to scream at those characters.

blankpage
09-20-2003, 10:41 PM
Easy Rider
Platoon


I loathe those two flicks.

Clarkey07
09-20-2003, 10:43 PM
Lawrence of Arabia is the major classic that I hate, mostly I enjoy most classics.

Damned Martian
09-21-2003, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by zeppelin
Sorry to burst your bubble, damned martian, but since when are 1941 and Jaws 2 considered classics? I don't know of any person who calls either of those films a classic. A classic is a movie that is generally considered to be a masterpiece, not just any movie made before 1980. That's why i defined "classic" as a movie made Before 1980. Maybe i should have said instead "old" movies. I wasn't referring to quality. But, considering that the most back in time you go, the less considered-bad movies you can find, it's more or less accurate. OH, well, forget about these 2.


And, BTW, i should say too that a 6/10 is not HATE or DISLIKE. Let's just cut it to movies below 5/10, ok?

MsMoviefan
09-21-2003, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Squid Vicious
Is Grease a classic? 'Cause I can't friggin' stand that movie....
Me either

RickySlade
09-21-2003, 10:44 AM
I dislike Some Like It Hot and Easy Rider.

flowrchild
09-21-2003, 12:09 PM
There really aren't very many classic movies I hate. There are a few that I find over-rated and not that amazing (like, say, Casablanca) but in no way did I hate that movie.

The only one that immediately springs to mind that I really didn't care for at all was Doctor Zhivago. I gave that a 5/10. It was 4 hours of melodramatic inconsistent boring pap.

Frank the Tank
09-21-2003, 12:21 PM
Ten Commandments 1956
Star Wars
Rocky Horror Picture Show

Grim H.
09-21-2003, 12:27 PM
The only two I can think of are....

Double Indemnity
The Third Man

Ghostface 2000
09-21-2003, 01:09 PM
I hate The Exorcist thought it was boring, but i was freaky.

Lazy Boy
09-21-2003, 01:53 PM
I can't really find any classic film that I "hate" per se, but there are two films I think are overrated:

Casablanca
Star Wars

Giselle
09-21-2003, 02:49 PM
Gone With The Wind

West Side Story

Doctor Zhivago

Shockwave
09-21-2003, 03:28 PM
Gone with the Wind...urg!!

Antonio
09-21-2003, 03:33 PM
I loathe Sam Raimi's cult classic THE EVIL DEAD.

The Other
09-21-2003, 03:50 PM
Citizen Kane
Star Wars flicks
West Side Story

Citizen Kane is the only one that's just vastly overrated and not bad, but WSS and SW are just AWFUL!

The TZA
09-21-2003, 05:41 PM
God awful:
Citizen Kane
Star Wars
Taxi Driver
Alien
Easy Rider

Not great:
Rear Window (would be awful if not for Stewart)
Straw Dogs
Scarface
Grease

Hannibal21
09-21-2003, 07:47 PM
Since Platoon and Scarface are also considered 'classics', add them to my list as well. Can't stand them.

Film Guru Zach
09-21-2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Clarkey07
Lawrence of Arabia is the major classic that I hate, mostly I enjoy most classics.

For one to put this in their hate category, you had better have a legit reason. This movie is flawless.

My hates are:

Anything by Spielberg

If you call yourself a "film buff" I challenge you to explain why Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Doctor Zhivago, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Lawrence of Arabia are on your hate list. These films revolutionized the film industry, and each are flawless. Casablanca has the best screenplay of all time. Lawrence has the best visuals of all time. Citizen Kane - enough said.

Michael_myers
09-21-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Film Guru Zach
For one to put this in their hate category, you had better have a legit reason. This movie is flawless.

My hates are:

Anything by Spielberg

If you call yourself a "film buff" I challenge you to explain why Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Doctor Zhivago, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Lawrence of Arabia are on your hate list. These films revolutionized the film industry, and each are flawless. Casablanca has the best screenplay of all time. Lawrence has the best visuals of all time. Citizen Kane - enough said.

In your opinion. Techinally, Doctor Zhivago did nothing for film. The cinematography was beautiful, yes but that same cinematography was done just as nicely by David Lean in other films. The music was also nice, but again, Lawrence of Araba, Psycho and even The Sound of Music had beautiful music. Doctor Zhivago's screenplay was dull and in no way creative. The acting was sub par and to go back to screenplay, it was a poor adaptation of a great book. Sharif's Zhivago had no feeling. Doctor Zhivago was just an awful, awful film.

Out of the 5 films you mentioned, Citizen Kane was the only truly techinally advanced film. Lawrence of Arabia was one of the first to use widescreen to an advantage, but the other three were almost in no way all that revolutionary. Influential? Maybe, But revoltuonary, no.

You also claim to hate Spielberg, and if there was ever a revolutionary film maker it's Spielberg. Jaws: animatronics became huge after this. Schindler's List changed war fiction. Close Encounters (and 2001, Star Wars) is arguably the most influential science fiction movie ever made. Jurassic Park did what Jaws started and multiplied it by ten. Raiders made action/adcenture films hip once more. Don't ask how we can hate classics, and then turn around and stab Spielberg in the back. He's more revolutionary than Casablanca, Lawrence, Kwai, and Zhivago.

Good day.

Hannibal21
09-21-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Film Guru Zach
For one to put this in their hate category, you had better have a legit reason. This movie is flawless.

My hates are:

Anything by Spielberg

If you call yourself a "film buff" I challenge you to explain why Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Doctor Zhivago, Bridge on the River Kwai, and Lawrence of Arabia are on your hate list. These films revolutionized the film industry, and each are flawless. Casablanca has the best screenplay of all time. Lawrence has the best visuals of all time. Citizen Kane - enough said.

Even though I didn't exactly 'hate' Lawrence of Arabia and The Bridge on the River Kwai the first time I saw them, I didn't particularly love them either. But after another viewing of both films, I finally realize why they're so great. Not a single flaw in either of those films.

Citizen Kane and Casablanca; I don't know how they can be truly 'hated' or 'disliked' by anyone; but, that's just my opinion. they have everything a great film could ask for (great story, great meaning, excellent acting, ending, screenplay, etc.) and had great impact in the film industry (what Kane did for biopics and other movies told in flashbacks and such, plus it's camera work; Casablanca did for romance). But, to each his own.

Doctor Zhivago.....I can accept the fact that it's a well made film, the performances weren't bad either. But I tried real hard a few times already and every time it just puts me or nearly puts me to sleep, without much hint of character developement either. It's great to look at, but as a movie it's overly dull, boring, and uninteresting.

And what's wrong with Spielberg? You didn't like Raiders, Schindler's List, or Jaws?

Film Guru Zach
09-22-2003, 12:12 AM
Amen brother, flawless - agreed though - to each his own - it's a shame that hating a film usually isn't separated from attacking it's validity. If I hear someone say they hate a wonderful film, I assume they are saying it's poorly made. Not always the case of course.

I have nothing wrong with Schindler's List. That was impressive. There are a few others that are good. But the majority of his films are so sugar-coated. I love his knowledge and philosophy of the film world. But he needs to practice more of his knowledge, and avoid the cute stuff. I truly didn't like the Indiana Jones Trilogy - esepcially the second one - what a joke. Jaws was okay, but once the shark jumped up on the boat and started eating the boat, he lost me. Minority report had a "Murder She Wrote" ending. Sadly predictable. AI was great up until the last twenty minutes, when he had to make it all cute. Some of his originality is great, but he makes flix, he doesn't make films.

Michael_myers
09-22-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Film Guru Zach
Amen brother, flawless - agreed though - to each his own - it's a shame that hating a film usually isn't separated from attacking it's validity. If I hear someone say they hate a wonderful film, I assume they are saying it's poorly made. Not always the case of course.

I have nothing wrong with Schindler's List. That was impressive. There are a few others that are good. But the majority of his films are so sugar-coated. I love his knowledge and philosophy of the film world. But he needs to practice more of his knowledge, and avoid the cute stuff. I truly didn't like the Indiana Jones Trilogy - esepcially the second one - what a joke. Jaws was okay, but once the shark jumped up on the boat and started eating the boat, he lost me. Minority report had a "Murder She Wrote" ending. Sadly predictable. AI was great up until the last twenty minutes, when he had to make it all cute. Some of his originality is great, but he makes flix, he doesn't make films.

Ok... agreed. Spielberg does tend to sugarcoat sometimes. But I love most of his stuff all the same. And I know, I hated Zhivago but it was very impressive in the cinematography and music department.

The TZA
09-22-2003, 11:02 AM
Citizen Kane was boring beyond belief, that's why I hate it. No technical reasons, no pretentious "the subtext said nothing" reason. Purely because it bored me to tears, the ultimate sin of movie making.

Hannibal21
09-22-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by The TZA
Citizen Kane was boring beyond belief, that's why I hate it. No technical reasons, no pretentious "the subtext said nothing" reason. Purely because it bored me to tears, the ultimate sin of movie making.

Ok, being a Kane fan myself, I'll accept you dislike for that movie. But I still don't know why it's regarded by so many people as 'boring' or 'uninteresting'. There was enough mystery and events happening in the movie to make me want to just keep on watching and wanting to know what happens, and story wise the movie builds perfectly, without a single boring moment. Ah well, to each his own.

Directly2Deep
09-22-2003, 06:31 PM
Dr.Strangelove
I didn't hate it I just didn't get some of the jokes

The TZA
09-22-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Hannibal21
Ok, being a Kane fan myself, I'll accept you dislike for that movie. But I still don't know why it's regarded by so many people as 'boring' or 'uninteresting'. There was enough mystery and events happening in the movie to make me want to just keep on watching and wanting to know what happens, and story wise the movie builds perfectly, without a single boring moment. Ah well, to each his own.


I didn't purposely go out of my way to hate it, I wanted to enjoy it, it's just that nothing happened. It was a few years ago and I'm always willing to give it another go (I've set the LOTR films and Chicago aside to try again because of schmoes comments), but at the end of the day there just weren't any monsters in it, which is really what I'm after in a movie. :)

The Delfonics
09-22-2003, 06:53 PM
Ah where to begin. In terms of entertainment value most of them I hate but some I just cant watch:

Casablanca
Citizen Cane
Nosferatu
Psycho (original)

my_name_is_neo
09-23-2003, 04:18 PM
I'm not very fond of The Wizard of Oz or Grease (I just can't stand musicals).

Also, 2001: A Space Odyssey was a weird one for me because I seem to both love AND hate it. I'm just not sure which side I'm on for that one. Maybe a second viewing is in order there.

my_name_is_neo
09-23-2003, 04:20 PM
Crap, double post.

Hannibal21
09-23-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by The TZA
I didn't purposely go out of my way to hate it, I wanted to enjoy it, it's just that nothing happened. It was a few years ago and I'm always willing to give it another go (I've set the LOTR films and Chicago aside to try again because of schmoes comments), but at the end of the day there just weren't any monsters in it, which is really what I'm after in a movie. :)

Come on now, you're telling me that Orson Welles in make up DIDN'T look like a monster? :D Just kidding, of course, but I hope you will give it another go, even if you don't like it much the second time, I just think it's those kind of films that when you watch more, you always discover new things. But, that's completely up to you. :)

K Gee
09-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Speilburg knows alot about movies, sure, but he dosent use his knowledge in the right ways. Besdies Schindler's list, all his other films are....stupid. I dont go for giant killer sharks, reserection of dinosaurs, or a white trash version of James Bond (Indiana Jones). Now on Saving Privet Ryan...excellent battle seguences, acting (even though Tom Hanks is the pussy of all actors), stroy, plot, whatever, but some scenes drag on way, way, way too long, a Speilburg fault that happens in all of his films. The whole night in the church scene, the taking of the town near the end (filmed with the most boring diologe ever heard), and the dreaded grave yeard scenes (present day sequences). The begining and eneding was the worst I have ever seen. Those scenes are not nessesary and stupid as hell. Come on, he salutes the grave? Zach is right, Speilburg surgar coats everything. He should have left us with a disturbing image of Tom Hanks' corps then cut to the credits. Marin Scorsese, David Lean, Francis Ford Coppola, Stanely Kubrick, and even Quentin Tarentino should show Speilburg how its done.

By the way, Martin Scorsese was the first to be asked to direct Schindler's list, not Speilburg.:p

Shockwave
09-24-2003, 04:26 PM
By the way, Martin Scorsese was the first to be asked to direct Schindler's list, not Speilburg.

If your going to go off on a rant about someone u could at least spell his name right.

K Gee
09-24-2003, 04:41 PM
I dont care about him enough to spell his name right. Man, I'm sick of all these Speilberg lovers. You people run with the masses. Alot of people dont take the time to sit back and watch a film by other dirctors, even if you have never heard of them. The directors I listed (except for Tarentino) dont get the respect they deserve. When is the last time you heard people on the street talking about a Francis Coppola film? See, I think the best should be noticed. Is Speilberg the best director? Umm....no. But why is he the most popular director? Because people today watch stupid movies and Speilburg makes stupid movies...(yet again no put downs on Schindler's list). And I must also say, I expect a lot of bitchy people yelling at me about this post.:D

ilovemovies
09-24-2003, 05:42 PM
"Classics" I disliked:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

West Side Story

The Sound of Music

Hello Dolly (:mad: almost damn unwatchable!)