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RicochetShaw
11-02-2003, 06:57 PM
We schmoes decided to boycott Tomb Raider 2 and Gigli.... Both were relative bombs (Tomb Raider 2 didn't exactly tank, but performed well under the expectations).

Coincidence? I think not. We're a force to be reckoned with, and we can make films bomb.

So... for our next boycott, I suggest the upcoming Paul Walker movie Timeline.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/153/501677.jpg


Shall we?

Adam J. Hakari
11-02-2003, 07:04 PM
Actually, I think this looks kinda good. Sorry, but I have faith in the Donner.

Tom Samborski
11-02-2003, 07:08 PM
Nope, I'm afraid I'll have to pass on this boycott.

Duke Nukem
11-02-2003, 07:09 PM
Okay, what's so wrong with "Timeline"? It's an, ahem, original idea in it's own right, it is based on a Michael Chricton (sp?) novel, and is directed by Richard Donner ("Lethal Weapon"). What's so wrong with that? Or, is it because it stars Paul Walker in the main lead? If it is, I think that's downright silly. You can't bash one movie with a particular actor, because of that particular actors other movies (which I think are pretty good and aren't so bad as people like to say; Fast/Furious 1/2 are simply fun movies and "Joy Ride" was very suspensefuly and intense). Or, is it for another reason? Whatever it is, I don't think "Timeline" is worth bombing on.

TheDeadWalk
11-02-2003, 07:12 PM
What exactly is the drive to boycott this film? It seems pleasant, though doesn't look like it's a particular Oscar nominee...

Paul Walker's done some decent work as an actor, and I enjoyed him (not as much as Steve Zahn) in Joy Ride...

The director has helped produce and direct many-a films, as well as some swift tales from the crypt and old twilight zone episodes.

I actually see a lot of film veterans in this film, and seeing it's a film based on a novel by Michael Crichton, it has hope of being an entertaining story.

Pehraps your ire drives from Gerard Butler, who has a role in the film after he was in Tomb Raider 2... your such an unforgiving soul.

But no matter what Ricochetshaw, no massive schmoe boycott is ever going to get Hollywood to bend to your ways so they will finally start production on the next installment of the adventures of Milo & Otis.

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you man... just face the facts and stop drinkin the hateraid. :D

blankpage
11-02-2003, 07:15 PM
I'll join, this movie looks like shit on a stick...even worse. Oh no, I've somehow been transported to the middle age's. Groovy. :rolleyes:

Lynn Minmei
11-02-2003, 07:18 PM
I wholehardedly agree to boycott this POS.

electriclite
11-02-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by blankpage
I'll join, this movie looks like shit on a shit....even worse. Oh no, I've somehow been transported to the middle age's. Groovy. :rolleyes:



I'm in.


The trailer for this turkey looked SOOOOO underwhelming and pointless.

jackson13
11-02-2003, 07:46 PM
I uhh, think it looks pretty good. Sorry guys, not with you on this one.

Jon Lyrik
11-02-2003, 07:48 PM
I'd much rather boycott other films.

Indiana Sev
11-02-2003, 07:48 PM
I'm in. You know how much I love boycotts, RicShaw!

RicochetShaw
11-02-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
I'd much rather boycott other films.



No problem with that. If you look at my initial post I said "I suggest." So if the majority isn't with this and would rather do something different, that's cool. I'm flexible. :)

Sugar Magnolia
11-02-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by RicochetShaw
I'm flexible. :)

Really? Well, as long as we're not boycotting orgies...

blankpage
11-02-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
Really? Well, as long as we're not boycotting orgies...


I would put in with my orgy stimulation talk, but ya know, a man knows when to draw the line. BUT, I would track down the man who would wanna boycott an orgy.....

outsyder
11-02-2003, 08:12 PM
I'm in. Besides, there are many other flicks that have priority over this one, so I probably wouldn't see it anyway.


Don't you just love boycotters that just don't care for the cause?:D

Dignan
11-02-2003, 08:43 PM
I'm in.

Something about people from modern ages going back to the middle without killing zombies and accidentally awakening an army of the dead just seems so wrong to me.

This boycott sounds groovy.

Slim
11-02-2003, 09:21 PM
I'm in, Shaw! The tagline alone makes me sick.

This fall you're history.

:rolleyes:

SykkBoy
11-02-2003, 09:33 PM
I say we boycott "Return of The King" instead.......





j/k ;-)

arto_j
11-03-2003, 01:26 AM
Well, I loved the book so I'm gonna have to pass on this boycott, as I do wanna see how it turns out. It doesn't look as good as I hoped though, but not nearly as bad as Tomb Raider either. So I'll see it.

Now, what was that about Return of the King again? ;)

CyclicNightmare
11-03-2003, 01:32 AM
One more nay. This doesn't look half bad. I'm not guarenteeing that I'll see it in the theatres, but it might be worth a look on video. I'm just not confident in Walker as the lead. Hopefully, he'll surprise me. If it delivers a fun ride, I'll be satisfied. I will have to agree with Slim on the tagline though, just lame.

KcMsterpce
11-03-2003, 02:01 AM
If it wasn't Richard Donner, I'd have to agree. But it IS Richard Donner, so I think this one has a chance.

Here's hoping that it won't be another ASSASSINS or RADIO FLYER.

I'm looking forward to another flick that is directed by the helmer of SUPERMAN, LETHAL WEAPON series, MAVERICK, THE OMEN, GOONIES, SCROOGED, and LADYHAWK.

So I'm seeing it.

BorderEevilIII
11-03-2003, 02:21 AM
The teaser & the actual trailer has ALREADY got me hooked. I am anxious to see the actual product now. The poster ad does look weak and Paul Walker in a SERIOUS role does remain questionable but I am just hopin this puppy shows up at the 12 plex that just 2 blocks from my house...:D

docholiday_13
11-03-2003, 05:59 AM
I can't. It has two actors I like in it.

Annie Hall
11-03-2003, 06:28 AM
I'll boycott.

Not only does this look bad, but "fighting the power" gets me all hot and bothered.

Damned Martian
11-03-2003, 07:43 AM
I pass. I'm already boycotting TCM, The Alamo and The Last Samurai. :D

Trinity
11-03-2003, 07:53 AM
I'm in. I actually have no idea what this movie's about and since Paul Walker's in it, I don't intend to find out.

Doc Holliday
11-03-2003, 08:38 AM
Have to pass on this one. Loved the book, and think it has some real possibility. I admit I am hesitant about the casting of Paul Walker.

quoth_the_raven
11-03-2003, 09:45 AM
Normally, i'd be in. but i want to see how this turns out, so i won't be waving any placards this time...

Jess
11-03-2003, 03:10 PM
Paul Walker's pretty damn hot. I don't know if I'll be able to resist, no matter how crappy the movie looks.

Duke Nukem
11-03-2003, 03:24 PM
What's with all the dishaste for Paul Walker? Is it for his acting? Is it for his movies? Like I said before, you can't bash one movie with a particular actor, because of the other movies that particular actor has starred in. Honestly...to bomb a movie for that is absolutely pathetic.

CyclicNightmare
11-03-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Duke Nukem
What's with all the dishaste for Paul Walker? Is it for his acting? Is it for his movies? Like I said before, you can't bash one movie with a particular actor, because of the other movies that particular actor has starred in. Honestly...to bomb a movie for that is absolutely pathetic.
I don't have any distaste for Paul Walker. I am just questioning his ability to open a movie like this in which he is the films main lead.

Duke Nukem
11-03-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by CyclicNightmare
I don't have any distaste for Paul Walker. I am just questioning his ability to open a movie like this in which he is the films main lead.

I wasn't really pointing that response to you, but to other schmoes that seem to be going against the movie for for him. I also see what you mean. Paul Walker may not have that top-billed actor stature quite yet. He's only been in one serious movie ("Joy Ride"), and those two less serious/more fun "Fast/Furious 1/2" films. Still, I like him as an actor. I think he's proven to be a good actor in serious roles and fun-loving roles. I think this next movie could be another good boost in his career. Hopefully, such a boycott won't screw him over.

CyclicNightmare
11-03-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Duke Nukem
Hopefully, such a boycott won't screw him over.
Yeah, I heard that he checked out this thread and called his agent in tears. He was so distraught. His friends and family have him on suicide watch. My thoughts and prayers are with him.

;)

BubbaStrangelove
11-03-2003, 04:29 PM
Hey time travel movies are among my favorites. Back 2 The Future: 2 Fast For The Past and 12 Angry Monkeys were the shizzle, be-aytch.

(In James Cagney voice) That makes me an expert, see. And you can't tell me nothin' about time travel movies, see.

Okay, enough of that nonsense.

This movie looks like a pile a bullshit. A big, heeping pile that's been sitting in the backseat of a 50 year old Cadallac for 2 months. That stinks! But that don't stink as bad as this fucking Timeline shit. The plot looks about as engaging as a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

I don't care who directed or wrote this! If Wes Anderson directed and wrote this I wouldn't see it.

Yeah, Michael Crichton can eat my ass for all I care. Well, I'd probably care about that, but what I mean is that, yeah, he gave us some cool stories that made good movies, but he also gave us The Lost World, Congo, 13th Warrior, Sphere, among others.

Richard Donner - Well, this man's success with Lethal Weapon was done in when he decided to do at least one of those sequels - you take your pick. He hasn't really made a good movie since, I don't know - The Goonies.

So here's one more that will not be seeing this movie. I don't know who this Paul Walker character is, but he looks sucky too.

Grebdron
11-03-2003, 04:34 PM
Boycott!!

Count me in.

Which movie?

Doesn't matter.

Count me in.

Jon Lyrik
11-03-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Grebdron
Boycott!!

Count me in.

Which movie?

Doesn't matter.

Count me in.

I'll boycott Schindler's List.

How would you like that.

To quote Homer Simpson: "In case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic." Like you. ;)

El Bracamonti
11-03-2003, 07:47 PM
I THINK WE SHOULD BOYCOTT HONEY INSTEAD

Jon Lyrik
11-03-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by El Bracamonti
I THINK WE SHOULD BOYCOTT HONEY INSTEAD

Good idea!

I would rather boycott that than a Richard Donner film.

NuclearMisfit
11-03-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by El Bracamonti
I THINK WE SHOULD BOYCOTT HONEY INSTEAD

Thats a great idea!

Slim
11-03-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by El Bracamonti
I THINK WE SHOULD BOYCOTT HONEY INSTEAD

I don't think Honey needs boycotting. That movie will fail on it's own. The schmoes don't need to waste energy on that.

KcMsterpce
11-04-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Slim
I don't think Honey needs boycotting. That movie will fail on it's own. The schmoes don't need to waste energy on that.

You know what (Scary Movie 3)? A couple of weeks ago, I would have thought you were right.
But something (Scary Movie 3) tells me that I should not have such faith in OTHER people in this world.

I feel that HONEY still needs boycotting.

blurofserenity
11-04-2003, 03:18 AM
Definitely count me in. I've already started the Paul Walker boycot with 2 fast 2 Video but it won't stop there.

Slim
11-04-2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by KcMsterpce
You know what (Scary Movie 3)? A couple of weeks ago, I would have thought you were right.
But something (Scary Movie 3) tells me that I should not have such faith in OTHER people in this world.

I feel that HONEY still needs boycotting.

Oh shit. You make a good point there. The general movie audience can be quite unpredicatable sometimes.

Cronos
11-04-2003, 10:02 AM
sorry, ill have to pass on this boycott until i read some reviews of Timeline

i loved the book and kinda hoped it would be made into a film before even hearing it was

RobertPaulson
11-05-2003, 03:22 PM
Glad to see that not everyone wants to jump on the hate band wagon.

THe book was awesome, I think the trailer showed some pretty cool battle scenes at the very least.

I also like Gerard Butler, he's about to break out I think with a big role in Phantom of the Opera.

Anyway, has anyone seen the Featurette (http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2456564) ? Had some pretty cool stuff in there, definitely better than the first trailer IMO.

So I'll second the people who said this looks interesting. In fact to class this with movies like Gigli is a little unfair, this looks way better and much more entertaining.

RicochetShaw
11-05-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by RobertPaulson
Glad to see that not everyone wants to jump on the hate band wagon.




Hate is a strong word. This is all just for fun, we're not trying to drive anyone out of business here or sit here and despise them.


And yeah, I hear it's a good book, and that's cool you want to see it because of that. But don't call us idiots for being ignorant of the book (which we're not). In fact, a veeery craptacular movie was made from a brilliant book just last year.... The Time Machine. And hmmm.... can anyone see the familiarities between that story and this one? ;)


And finally, thanks to all who have signed up! Woohoo! :)

SenorSpielbergo
11-05-2003, 10:02 PM
I actually kind of want to see Timeline, although Paramount hasn't put out many great pictures in the past few years. So, I don't think this is a very good pick in my opinion. My choice for a film to boycott would by far be Elf

moviemuffin
11-06-2003, 03:22 AM
Not to be a nitpicker, but what is the point of refusing to give any film an honest evaluation?

The only way to know if it really is good or bad is to see it.

tbone
11-06-2003, 12:24 PM
I don't know I was pleased when this was announce as it was based off a Crichton novel, but when I saw the trailer I was a bit disappointed it appears as if this movie is marketed to 13-16 olds. More than likely I'll end up seeing over Thanksgiving, but if I have yet to seen Matrix and Master and Commander by then it will have to wait.

Grebdron
11-06-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by moviemuffin
Not to be a nitpicker, but what is the point of refusing to give any film an honest evaluation?

The only way to know if it really is good or bad is to see it.

I didn't need to see Gigli, Blue Crush, Swimfan, From Justin to Kelly, etc. to know they would be steaming piles of turd.

Jerk Shapiro
11-06-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by RicochetShaw
We schmoes decided to boycott Tomb Raider 2 and Gigli.... Both were relative bombs


Yeah, but the rest of the world boycotted with us...



Also, Paul W. being the biggest pimp on earth, I wouldn't mind going to see this with some friends or something.



Why don't you just be quiet, Shaw? ;)

moviemuffin
11-07-2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by Grebdron
I didn't need to see Gigli, Blue Crush, Swimfan, From Justin to Kelly, etc. to know they would be steaming piles of turd.

If you'd seen them you'd actually have a right to judge them.

Blue Crush was no arte film but it wasn't bad, I took my daughter to see it.

And when I criticize Gigli or Justin to Kelly I do it from an informed position, not one of ignorance.

To each their own. I never opt for ignorance.

Annie Hall
11-07-2003, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by moviemuffin
If you'd seen them you'd actually have a right to judge them.

Blue Crush was no arte film but it wasn't bad, I took my daughter to see it.

And when I criticize Gigli or Justin to Kelly I do it from an informed position, not one of ignorance.

To each their own. I never opt for ignorance.

As moviegoers, however, we have the right to figure out what WE think looks good. I didn't need to see Gigli, Blue Crush, Bring it On or A Walk to Remember to know that they were god-awful, but I did see them, and I am not a better person because of it. They WERE terrible, shamelessly so. My first impression was right, but, at least I wasn't "ignorant" after seeing them?

As we see more movies, we sharpen our abilities to judge what we will or won't like. In loving movies as much as most of us do, it seems nearly impossible to be entirely objective about every movie coming out. It's a part of our screening mechanism, and just like we have the right to NOT see Tomb Raider 2 because it looks terrible, 13 year old Sally has the right to boycott Kill Bill because it's "too violent". We can't see every movie, and as moviewatchers we should be able to say "that looks terrible!" and not be criticized for judging from a place of "ignorance".

That's just my opinion, I guess.

Fisting Ackbar
11-07-2003, 11:32 AM
Despite that Paul Walker is a terrible actor, the latest trailer got me more interested in it, so I'm not going to decide if I shall boycot this until the general concensus of the film is clear.

Neesh
11-07-2003, 11:38 AM
As we see more movies, we sharpen our abilities to judge what we will or won't like. In loving movies as much as most of us do, it seems nearly impossible to be entirely objective about every movie coming out. It's a part of our screening mechanism, and just like we have the right to NOT see Tomb Raider 2 because it looks terrible, 13 year old Sally has the right to boycott Kill Bill because it's "too violent". We can't see every movie, and as moviewatchers we should be able to say "that looks terrible!" and not be criticized for judging from a place of "ignorance".


I hear what youre saying.... but I have to go with moviemuffin on this one. Personally I dont get this whole boycotting bandwagon either, but what do I care. Well, I guess I'm interested enough to see what people are boycotting to read this thread, but heres my take on it. Theres a big difference between people having a predisposition to not see a movie because "it looks terrible", and declaring that its a "steaming pile of turd" before seeing it.
Some people just love to hate. Thats too bad.

moviemuffin
11-07-2003, 01:56 PM
Theres a big difference between people having a predisposition to not see a movie because "it looks terrible", and declaring that its a "steaming pile of turd" before seeing it.

Exactly. What Neesh said.

While I would absolutely agree that it's perfectly fine to say "I saw the trailers and it looks like crap to me," there is a bit of a distinction between saying that and saying "it's crap, but I didn't see it." If you didn't see it, you don't really know. I'd encourage people to skip a movie that looks crappy, but the appropriate response, having done so, is to say you skipped it on good advice and better instincts.

Naturally people can (and should) judge a film by advertisements, trailers, reviews, and word of mouth. If it looks like a stinker, and you aren't paid to see and evaluate it, skip it.

Boycotting, in my humble and respectful opinion, should be reserved for occasions when a product (movies included) is harmful. The only movie I have ever boycotted was Pocahauntus, because it was obscenely appropriative of Indigenous cultures.

If I had been a movie reviewer at the time I would have seen it anyway and trashed the shit out of it in my review.

No disrespect intended to your views, btw. It's great that you care enough about movies to hate the crappy ones.

BubbaStrangelove
11-07-2003, 06:54 PM
Everyone seems to be doing it in pure fun. Sometimes it's genuinely interesting to see how bad you can make a movie sound. The fact that it comes down to is if you are so big that if you do see the movie you've declared "steamed turds", and end up liking it, that you drop your ground.

And boycott -- really though, I didn't realize it was being taken that seriously.

Now, if someone proposed ransacking theaters, and stealing copies of TIMELINE, then throwing them in bodies of water at predetermined times - you know, like baseball fans did with disco records.......

THAT would be worth concern.

blankpage
11-07-2003, 07:49 PM
My boycott is still here. Now excuse me while I travel back to the middle ages and fight medival black knights.

Annie Hall
11-07-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by moviemuffin
Boycotting, in my humble and respectful opinion, should be reserved for occasions when a product (movies included) is harmful. The only movie I have ever boycotted was Pocahauntus, because it was obscenely appropriative of Indigenous cultures.

If I had been a movie reviewer at the time I would have seen it anyway and trashed the shit out of it in my review.


See, this is where my personality quirks take over...I find it far less odd to boycott a movie because you think it'll be bad, than because it's offensive. I remember last year when Jewish groups were boycotting Max left and right, and then when they finally sat down to SEE it, they thought "oh, that's not so bad...it was actually well done".

I guess, in my world, it seems far less drastic to tell people a movie you haven't seen is bad, than to say a movie you haven't seen is offensive.

...if that makes sense.

electriclite
11-07-2003, 11:22 PM
I like to believe that I have a, shall we say, 6th sense when it comes to films. I've been teaching myself for quite sometime to listen to the voice of wisdom in my head:

"Take your umbrella today. "

"Bring that disk with you."

"Don't waste $10 on that shitty movie."


So far I've learned that when I don't listen to the voice, I pay. In more ways then one.

So far, the voice is not in favor of "Timeline", even after knowing its a book by Micheal Crichton, which really doesn't mean shit when it comes to the movie.

Grim H.
11-08-2003, 10:02 PM
I don't think I'll be boycotting it, per se...but I don't really feel like seeing it. To me it just looks shitty.

SenorSpielbergo
11-26-2003, 03:35 PM
Who's going to see Timeline today or tomorrow? I know I'll be seeing it within next few days.

RicochetShaw
12-10-2003, 10:26 PM
Well schmoes, we did it again! The film got mostly negative reviews, and has done poorly at the Box Office so far. It had an 80 million dollar budget, and has earned approx 19 million since it's opening. Looks like your sixth sense was right, electriclite. :D

quoth_the_raven
12-11-2003, 03:13 AM
Having said i would see this movie, i have indeed just done so.


Ladies and Gentleman, i give you the QTR choice for worst movie this year----

*drum roll*


TIMELINE

bad casting- Billy Connelly trying to be an academic? Paul Walker trying and failing to act? this is without even getting on to the point that the rest of the cast were as bland as bland could be in this movie.

Bad acting- Paul Walked actually managed to be more wooden than the surrounding forsest. Again, see above, for a general description of the whole ensemble-bland. Bland to the point of negligence

Bad Scripting- just go and see it. you'll see what i mean.





Oh god i could go on and on. The only possible redeeming feature was the big old battle at the climax. To be honest with you gentle reader, that just felt as if it were tacked on for the sake of it. "oh yeah, we've managed to bore you senseless for most of the film. lets chuck in a hasty battle scene, and hope you are stupid enough to forget just how poor the movie has been"

Alas, I am not that stupid, no matter how hard i try to pretend ;)

ladies and gentlemen, keep your money. give it to the homeless. buy an orphan a christmas present. but dear god, do not spend it on this movie.

Lil' Lebowski
12-13-2003, 05:48 PM
I suppose indirectly I'll support the boycott.......
This movie just looks like it'll be a pile a shit.
I do agree with the argument that seeing all
ranges of movies allows us to better judge them
as a whole, but going as far as spending 8-9$
on a film you pretty much know will stink is too
much to ask. I will watch it if it eventually is shown on TV.
After all...... Why not?
"Without the bitter baby, the sweet ain't as sweet"
Jason Lee - Vanilla Sky