Rap Stars acting

[blurofserenity]

What is it about rappers and acting? I don't get it, what is in their blood that they feel because they're good at rapping they can succeed on the big screen as well. The only one who was actually respectable at it was 2pac, but now I'm wishing he didn't since now every rapper is jumping in movies. I don't know if you can even call what these guys do acting, I mean consider their roles. They're playing gangsters, hustlers, upcoming rappers, drug dealers..... I'm supposed to be impressed because Ice Cube gave a deadly accurate portrayal of a hustler in Englewood, California? He couldn't give a bad performance if he tried! Before we call them "actors" let's give them some tough roles and see how they do. Make DMX play a handicap man, that's always a quick way to get everyone's respect. Let's keep these rappers off the screen. Sometimes it's better to see a no-name hood then a big name hood like Nas anyways. I really don't get it, when they were growing up did they join in the neighboorhood plays as well? Why start acting now? You never see rock stars jumping in front of the camera. Although I wouldn't mind seeing Scott Weiland gets a role as a drug addled rock star who is watching his life spiral downward. Talk about an easy role.

[BorderEevilIII]

ummmmmm Where should I begin with this rebuttal, I do NOT agree that ALL rappers should be kept off of the movie screen. There are some darn good rappers turned actors. As for Ice Cube, he's been doing pretty good for himself in the movie biz. And what movie are you talking about in Inglewood, CA here?
My personal fave is LL Cool J. He's goes beyond playing quote on quote street bling bling type roles. Another one is Queen Latifah, she started out rap and expanded her self big tyme in the movie biz. I will agree with you rappers playing look alike roles. BUT NOW WAY DAWG! There are a handful of legit ones.

[blurofserenity]

I was referring to Ice Cube in Boyz in the Hood, although I don't know if it was in Inglewood or not. Anyways while the odd one reaches out, like LL Cool J, I still dont' feel they're legitimate roles. As for Cool James there, I wouldn't have cared if it was a no name black guy with attitude, his role had the range of a toothpick. I just think that when they're playing such basic roles a)Their famous personas takes away from their effectiveness
b)Why not give some actual African American actors a try instead of some rapper who got bored with selling millions of records so jumps into film. Samuel L Jackson is on record seconding that opinion.

[BorderEevilIII]

Gee I just stumbled on this article

http://www.dvdwolf.com/Top_Ten_Pages/Top_Ten_Raptors.html

These RAPPERS/ACTORS should get out? Then Mr. Jackson needs to tell them in their faces...:rolleyes:

Will Smith
Six Degrees of Seperation
Independance Day
Legend Of Bagger Vance
Ali

Queen Latifah
Living Out Loud
Chicago

Mark Wahlberg
Boogie Nights
Three Kings
Perfect Storm

Ice Cube
Higher Learning
Three Kings
Barbershop

LL Cool J
Any Given Sunday
Deliver Us From Eva
Deep Blue Sea

[blurofserenity]

You're missing my point. Their roles just aren't demanding ones.
Will Smith is kind of a different case, but he got widespread acceptance through acting on a sitcom, so his rapping was almost the side thing.

[BorderEevilIII]

Will Smith was a rapper in the music biz LONG before his TV sitcom came along. And you are sooooooooo getting me lost. You go from ONE point to something else in the next reply.:confused: :mad:

[SAI]

I can take or leave most rapper/actors but I do think Ice Cube is pretty talented, look at Boyz N The Hood, Higher Learning and Three Kings. All are very different parts and he is excellent in all of them.

[daddiefatsacks]

I wouldnt really call Will Smith a rap artist, but yes he was in the music biz waaay before he had his own sitcom

He's not exactly RAP but Tyrese can certainly display entusiasm and act pretty good in the two charasmatic roles hes been in

Baby Boy and 2 Fast 2 Furious

[James Logan]

Will Smith is the only rapper to be allowed on a screen. Why? Because he worked and still works on his acting. Other rappers, they just come out, act half-assed bad-ass, and get their paycheck. Thanks but no fuckin' thanks.

[jackson13]

I actually dont mind rappers in films. I like Will Smith a ton, I love every movie he's in. He's got amazing chemisty. I like Ice Cube as well. Friday wouldnt have been the same without him. Otherwise it woulda just been Chris Tucker sitting on a front porch smoking weed yelling "DEEBO! YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!"


Eminem impressed me the most though. 8 Mile was an extremely solid performance, and one of the best movies I saw last year.


The only thing that really bothers me about a topic like this is, its usual singers who are worse, not rappers. If you need proof go watch any Britney Spears or Maddona flick. Then watch a Will Smith or Ice Cube movie and tell me which was better.


Down with singers in movies! Up with rappers!

[Damned Martian]

I don't mind their musical experience. If they can act, they're welcome. In fact, lots of actors can't act and can't sing either, so at least rappers have one more quality than them. And yes, I'm referring to you, Mr Seagal: you MUST die. Now, please. ;)

Good rappers/actors:

Mark Wahlberg
Eminem
Ice Cube
LL Cool J
Queen Latifah
Will Smith
Tupac Shakur
Ice T

and probably more that i don't remember now. In fact, I can't think in a bad rapper/actor now. Other singers/actors are worst than rappers. Look at the pop stars: Britney, Mariah, Madonna, Whitney... ugh!

[blurofserenity]

So there's nobody else that finds this a problem?

Well I guess I accept I'm in the vast minority then.

[echo_bravo]

Hey Blur, I completely agree with you on this one. The rappers I can really stand are Tupac(deseased), Ice Cube and Eminem. Notice I didnt say they were good actors, I just said that I can stand them.

I really cant fucking stand these rappers using their name alone to get movie roles while there are other good young black actors that are getting shit on. I believe Samuel L Jackson said this awhile back. He said that rappers just go through the motions and get their pay check.

I couldnt agree more! God damn, I cant stand seeing Busta Rhymes, LL Cool J or P Diddy overact. It is just so embarrassing.

Halloween H20 anyone?
What about DMX?! That dude has to be the most washed up loser in the rap game right now. Oh wait, that would have to go to Snoop Dogg. I was enjoying Training Day and all of a sudden Dr Dre and Snoop appear and they deliver the worst scenes in the movie.

I really think that a lot of the directors just are scared of these rappers. I mean, its blatantly obvious that these guys cant act worth shit, but the director wont critisize them because then the rapper will get all of his entrouge on him and beat him up.

"oh great work DMX, no need to do that scene over again" (Please dont stab me!)

[silentasylum]

I think Ice cube should have been nominated at least as a supporting actor, (golden globes or for an Oscar) there's very few people that could have nailed his role in Boyz n the hood like he did.

[the saw is family]

while i'm not a huge fan of rappers in films, ice cube is good,eminem was excellent as he should of been cuz he wa splaying himself. also how in the hell can you put mark wahlberg on a list of rapper/actors, the guy made one shitty fucking rap song and was a complete joke as a rapper so i wouldn't include him. also the arguement that these roles should be given to up and coming black actors i don;t agree with because these roles are all very similiar, gangsta,street types,hoods go ahead and gibe these roles to the rappers and let up and coming black actors take some roles with some depth and meaning.

[blurofserenity]

Thank you Echo!I was beginning to think I was the only normal person left on this thread (joking). You summed everything up real nicely, well done

[SAI]

Shame on me for forgetting Tupac Shakur. He had real screen presence. Brilliant perfomances in Juice and Gang Related

[The TZA]

I'm not against rappers being in movies, I'm against any famous hack who's getting paid just because his appearance will sell a couple more tickets. Pop singers are the worst - I can't stand Britney or Madonna, why the hell would I want these hacks in a movie? Everyone's saying LL Cool J's decent at acting, but I thought he was pretty shitty in Deep Blue Sea and H20. Busta Rhymes was fucking ABYSMAL in Halloween Ressurection, but then he was decent in Shaft and very good in his small appearance in Narc. Training Day I was impressed by Snoop, but Dre was embarrassing. As for all those rap movies like Belly, then it makes no difference because they are made solely for rap fans.

[silentasylum]

you give someone shitty material and thats what their performance will seem like, after all they're not magicians. H20 and Deep blue sea are mentioned what could they do with the roles? like i said they're no magicians. you put LLcoolj in a decent script like Any Given Sunday and he does good in it, coincidence? I think not.

the idea that directors are afraid of rappers is totally absurd and immature thinking. do you think the way a rappers sings on an album is the way that person carries themselves outside the studio?

[The Postmaster General]

Why not a thread about bad actors acting?

How come this thread got racial about part way through?

Where is the thread about bad black actors?

When does it become more of a topic of people trying to save the entertainment industry, and less of a topic with you just plain out not liking certain types of people doing things you feel they aren't entitled to do?

Who would be offended if Denzel Washington played a shitty portrayal of a rap star?

All of these questions, and more, on the next episode of "Let's put one group of people over here, out of our way!"

LOL!

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Why not a thread about bad actors acting?

How come this thread got racial about part way through?

Where is the thread about bad black actors?

When does it become more of a topic of people trying to save the entertainment industry, and less of a topic with you just plain out not liking certain types of people doing things you feel they aren't entitled to do?

Who would be offended if Denzel Washington played a shitty portrayal of a rap star?

All of these questions, and more, on the next episode of "Let's put one group of people over here, out of our way!"

LOL!

I've been waiting impatiently for you to see this thread, Bubba.;)

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
I really think that a lot of the directors just are scared of these rappers. I mean, its blatantly obvious that these guys cant act worth shit, but the director wont critisize them because then the rapper will get all of his entrouge on him and beat him up.

"oh great work DMX, no need to do that scene over again" (Please dont stab me!)

If the directors were scared of them, why would they be cast? That's just silly.

[The Postmaster General]

Check out Adam Horovitz in LOST ANGELS

[arby19]

Will Smith, Ice Cube, Marky Mark are all great actors.

A little offtopic: In An Evening with Kevin Smith when he talks and he says 'Tim Burton when off and did Planet of the Apes with Marky Mark' then everyone in the crowd laughs KS then says 'I will always remember him singing Good Vibrations' I fell on the floor laughing. Hilarious stuff.

Queen Latifah is great to.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Grebdron
If the directors were scared of them, why would they be cast? That's just silly.


Haven't you heard Greb? First, Jam Master Jay - next, Tim Burton.

This fucking integration is making it hard for the clean people out there. We need to keep those gangsters over there on their side of the wall. Oops. Did I say wall?

[ERIN_LoJ]

Ice-T and Ice-Cube aren't bad; what really gets me is throwing in these rap stars for horror films like Halloween 8. (shudders)

[silentasylum]

First, Jam Master Jay- next, Tim Burton This fucking interegration is making it hard for the clean people out there.

about the dumbest thing I've ever heard, I think a wall should be built and people who think this way should be kept on the other side since they're slowing down progression. Just because you think and call yourself clean doesn't make it so.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by silentasylum
I think a wall should be built and people who think this way should be kept on the other side since they're slowing down progression. Just because you think and call yourself clean doesn't make it so.



I take it you haven't read the other posts in this thread.

[silentasylum]

i have read them, and I find the consistency or lack of, very interesting from certain posts.

[one_crow_sorrow]

Busta Rhymes did a pretty decent job in Narc.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by silentasylum
i have read them, and I find the consistency or lack of, very interesting from certain posts.



Right on.

[happy OUT here]

I've enjoyed many performances by rappers. I would give them ALL up, however, to know that I would never have to see Eminem onscreen again!

[Cronos]

i dont think any rapper or pop singer should be cast in a film, they cannot act, Kelly Rowland was the main, no, only problem with Freddy Vs Jason

the only reason IMO that they cast these idiots in films is in the hope that their fans will go and see it

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Cronos
i dont think any rapper or pop singer should be cast in a film,


So, if it were up to you, The Rat Pack would have never existed.

[Cronos]

i meant in films from the past 10 years or so, they have ruined films that could have been great and pissed me off, occasionally there may be one that can act in some way but most of the time they cant

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by BorderEevilIII


Will Smith
Six Degrees of Seperation
Independance Day
Legend Of Bagger Vance
Ali

Queen Latifah
Living Out Loud
Chicago

Mark Wahlberg
Boogie Nights
Three Kings
Perfect Storm

Ice Cube
Higher Learning
Three Kings
Barbershop
Anaconda

LL Cool J
Any Given Sunday
Deliver Us From Eva
Deep Blue Sea
all of which were utter crap.

[silentasylum]

some of those are solid picks, i forgot about higher learning.

[JCPhoenix]

Originally posted by Deathbox
all of which were utter crap.

your opinion ;p

me, there are several movies there that i have enjoyed quite a bit. Boogie Nights, Barbershop, and Chicago to name a few.

In any case, rappers are DEFINITELY in my opinion a welcome addition. most of them can actually act. And at least they know how to pick their roles. It just befuddles me time and time again how and why pop stars pick such utter crap. I don't understand sometimes why Madonna picks the films she does (Swept Away), or Mariah Carey (Glitter) or Lance Bass (On the Line) to the American Idols (From Justin to Kelly) to Britney Spears (Crossroads) to Spice Girls (Spice World) and even J-Lo, who can be a decent actress can easily end up in schmuck like Maid in Manhattan. Pop stars do not seem to know how to pick the right movies at all - they always seem to go for the romantic comedies first. Weird...

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by JCPhoenix
your opinion ;p

no, fact. Even the ticket sales support my opinion. :p

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
no, fact. Even the ticket sales support my opinion. :p

Independance Day

Chicago

Boogie Nights

Three Kings


Yeah, all these really BOMBED.:rolleyes:

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Independance Day

Chicago

Boogie Nights

Three Kings


Yeah, all these really BOMBED.:rolleyes:
what is your point, other than you are among the sheep who love to argue?

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
what is your point, other than you are among the sheep who love to argue?

He gives you a good argument, and he's a fucking sheep? What?

[TheDeadWalk]

I don't have anything against Rap stars, Country Singers, Rock artists, painters, plumbers, pizza men, programmers, or what not that wish to become actors. But what has become irritating is the rap/hip hop surge into the mainstream horror genre. We've got LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, and Kelly Rowland in some recent day horror flicks, who have left a somewhat terrible blemish on the films with their lackluster performances.

Often in a teen slasher/mainstream horror film it's usually some new up and comers on the big screen, and it seems like the filmmakers feel a sudden need to add on a well known hippity hoppiter just to make a few extra bucks on the film, or to give it more MTV publicity. Hire the people for their ability to play the part, not because of the catchy name.(This point I feel also applies for folks who feel that a good movie MUST HAVE No-Name actors to be good.)

Unrelated, abstract rhetorical point: I was listening to the Halloween: Ressurection commentary the other day, and they stated that there was much debate over the scene where Laurie Strode kisses Michael Myers. They won the debate by stating: "If we kept it in, we could win an MTV Award for the best kiss!". Shame.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
what is your point, other than you are among the sheep who love to argue?

EEEKKK. He's flaming me.

***Runs away***

My point is, obviously, that no, it's not a FACT that the public has unanimously scorned movies with rappers, as you had stated previously.

You can use the word FACT all you want. Doesn't change the FACT that your OPINION was erroneous.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Grebdron
EEEKKK. He's flaming me.

***Runs away***

My point is, obviously, that no, it's not a FACT that the public has unanimously scorned movies with rappers, as you had stated previously.

You can use the word FACT all you want. Doesn't change the FACT that your OPINION was erroneous.
look at the ticket sales after the first week of those releases. Do your homework, kiddo. It doesnt take much to flame you.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
look at the ticket sales after the first week of those releases. Do your homework, kiddo. It doesnt take much to flame you.

What? Independence Day, Chicago, Boogie Nights had bad legs? Do you even know how the box office works? Look again:

www.boxofficemojo.com

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
What? Independence Day, Chicago, Boogie Nights had bad legs? Do you even know how the box office works? Look again:

www.boxofficemojo.com
yes I do actually because I used to work in the industry. Have you? btw, that link is bogus, try again.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
What? Independence Day, Chicago, Boogie Nights had bad legs? Do you even know how the box office works? Look again:

www.boxofficemojo.com

Thanks, Jon. I knew I'd be safe letting you handle my light work.;)

I believe Independence Day is one of the highest grossing films ever. Certainly top 50. I'd call that legs. And I also believe Chicago was the highest grossing musical ever. I'd call that legs. And Boogie Nights, while I don't know numbers, I believe it recieved MUCH critical love.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
yes I do actually because I used to work in the industry. Have you? btw, that link is bogus, try again.

You worked in the industry? That's surprising. Anyone who works in the industry would know that Independence Day, Chicago, and Boogie Nights were leggy.

Bogus link? Huh?

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Thanks, Jon. I knew I'd be safe letting you handle my light work.;)

I believe Independence Day is one of the highest grossing films ever. Certainly top 50. I'd call that legs. And I also believe Chicago was the highest grossing musical ever. I'd call that legs. And Boogie Nights, while I don't know numbers, I believe it recieved MUCH critical love.
and you believe the rappers should take credit for the ticket sales?
LMAO, riiiiight.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
and you believe the rappers should take credit for the ticket sales?
LMAO, riiiiight.

No. Independence Day was an event film. I think that Superbowl trailer grabbed people by the balls.

Queen Latifah wasn't the reason why Chicago was a hit, and no-one said that was the reason either. It had critical acclaim and huge Oscar buzz that drove it.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
and you believe the rappers should take credit for the ticket sales?
LMAO, riiiiight.

No, what I believe is that your previously stated OPINION, which you stated was FACT, really bears no weight. You claimed that the public almost unanimously avoided movies WITH RAP STARS. The performance of the movies I cited OBVIOUSLY counters your OPINION.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
No. Independence Day was an event film. I think that Superbowl trailer grabbed people by the balls.

Queen Latifah wasn't the reason why Chicago was a hit, and no-one said that was the reason either. It had critical acclaim and huge Oscar buzz that drove it.
You just admitted what I've been saying all along so whats your problem?

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Grebdron
No, what I believe is that your previously stated OPINION, which you stated was FACT, really bears no weight. You claimed that the public almost unanimously avoided movies WITH RAP STARS. The performance of the movies I cited OBVIOUSLY counters your OPINION. answer this then movie expert, when was the last time a rapper had a lead role and that movie was successful? Mmmm, exactly.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
answer this then movie expert, when was the last time a rapper had a lead role and that movie was successful? Mmmm, exactly.

Boyz 'n the Hood.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
so whats your problem?

Your contrary attitude?

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
You just admitted what I've been saying all along so whats your problem?

Saying these films have bad legs, which isn't true. Chicago started in minimal theaters and it's buzz rose it to the Top 10, where it stayed for months. I think Jan. to March?

Besides, these aren't the right films to say rappers drew the crowds in. 8 Mile would be a better comparision, and a MUCH better canidate for your "bad legs" statement.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Boyz 'n the Hood.
Cuba Gooing Jr. is NOT a rapper. Try again and dont rely on help from Jon Lyrik, he knows zilch.

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Deathbox
Cuba Gooing Jr. is NOT a rapper. Try again and dont rely on help from Jon Lyrik, he knows zilch.

You said A lead role, not THE lead role. Ice Cube had A lead role.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
Cuba Gooing Jr. is NOT a rapper. Try again and dont rely on help from Jon Lyrik, he knows zilch.

Let's see...

Barbershop had a rapper in it, right? Wasn't he the lead, or one of?
8 Mile
Did Friday After Next do ok? I'm blanking out?

Oh, and I have a BO column. I think I know at least a little about BO.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik


Oh, and I have a BO column. I think I know at least a little about BO.
body odor? I bet you know volumes about that topic. :D

[Jon Lyrik]

Wow, you are a comedic genius.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Wow, you are a comedic genius.
At least I know what I am talking about. Rappers in movies = box office disasters. Barbershop was a fluke. Now get off your high horse Jon.

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by Deathbox
At least I know what I am talking about. Rappers in movies = box office disasters. Barbershop was a fluke. Now get off your high horse Jon.

It really, really depends. Some have cleaned house, others have done bad. It depends largely on WOM I say.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
I agree, rappers have no place in movies. Their music sucks also
ok now.

[Neesh]

It comes down to this: Movie stars are bigger than rock stars. (and by "rock" stars, I mean any popular music star....) Alot of rap music is all about attitude and ego. So its no great mystery to me why so many of these people wanna get into movies --- more money, more bitches, more ho's, more attention, basically. I love rap music. And hip-hop especially. Not too familiar with these new rappers... dont know anything about 50 cent. But P.E., Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, Rob Base & DJ Ez Rock... etc.... but anyways. This phenomenon became really clear to me about 6 or 7 years ago, when this friend of mine was telling me about taking his friend to see Dogstar in concert. He was like, she just wants to go see Keanu, doesnt give a shit about the music. When asked about it, the chick was like, (imagine being said in a fresh-off-boat Japanese accent) "He bigger than rock star..... he MOVIE star". Dogstar isn't a rap act, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point.
Ah, kids these days... they'll pay to see anything. Bad acting on a big screen, bad musicians in concert.... theres no accounting for taste anymore

[Corpse Candle]

Originally posted by Deathbox
answer this then movie expert, when was the last time a rapper had a lead role and that movie was successful? Mmmm, exactly.

What about:

ICE-T:
New Jack City

Slim Shady:
8-MILE

Ice Cube:
Three Kings


I am not in love with the rap ferturnity thinking that "bling-bling" will save their hides when it comes to acting talent.
However there are three good films with lead actors whom rap....

[badberry]

Don't feed the trolls people

[jackson13]

Yeah man, 8 Mile opened with the biggest November opening ever, that sure did flop!

Barbershop made over $100 million dollars, another gigantic flop!

Italian Job, co-starring Mos Def, also made over $100 million dollars at the box office, and was in the top 5 for umpteen weeks: yet another huge flop!

Independence Day, as well as Men In Black, MIB2, Bad Boys 2, all movies starring the former/current rapper Will Smith, all made over $100 million dollars, and ID4 is in the top 15 for highest grossing movies ever. They were all major flops!


:rolleyes:


Deathbox, you sir need to get your facts straight before you tell everyone else they need to. You also need to reread the rules of this site and stop insulting everyone because they dont agree with you. Its called 'maturity', learn the definition!

[Jon Lyrik]

Originally posted by jackson13
Barbershop made over $100 million dollars, another gigantic flop!

Correction: $75 million or so.

[Deathbox]

Originally posted by jackson13

Deathbox, you sir need to get your facts straight before you tell everyone else they need to. You also need to reread the rules of this site and stop insulting everyone because they dont agree with you. Its called 'maturity', learn the definition!
You need to learn maturity and accept opinions which differ from yours. That said, I don't care if I ver come back to this place. I've already seen the retards of this place, being you and Lyrik.

[jake]

Further correction: two starring roles, one co-starring role and a bunch of movies featuring a guy who's considered more an actor than a rapper, doesn't consitute conclusive evidence to contradict the general consensus that rappers tend to make really bad movies.

Of course, I hope I haven't offended anyone by posting this opinion of mine: I didn't intend to disrespect anyone if anyone feels disrespected.

[Corpse Candle]

However since the genre of rap hasn't been around as long as rock/metal for instance then maybe it is just a matter of time before we see rappers learning to be an accomplished actor and musician.
I can see a time when the next generation of hip-hop/rap artist not only work on thier music but take acting lessons even before they are penciled in for a film role.
I am sure there those who do this already but I mean as an esstainal method of making thier mark in the media far more important.
The rap stars that we see in todays films may not always be top notch but maybe they are prototypes for a far more multi-talented future.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Im completely fine with rappers in movies. Just as long as they dont suck in the movie. Im still laughing at busta rhymes for his dumbass karate shit in halloween...That will be an imprint in my mind! { trick or treat...Mothafucker!!!!!!! lol GREAT COMEDIC PERFORMANCE!!!!!}

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Neesh
It comes down to this: Movie stars are bigger than rock stars. (and by "rock" stars, I mean any popular music star....)


No way. Elvis is the biggest star of all time. Michael Jackson is the 3rd most recognizable person in the world, behind the Pope and The Queen.


Unless you are talking about Marlon Brando. He's bigger than anyone. Haha.

[DoCk]

Elvis ...biggest star of all time??? :eek:


i have a question guys. u say barbershop made about $75 million dollars then u say that is a flop? how is that a flop? it didnt look like it took but so much money to make it, and i thought if movies grossed over 3x what it took to make then it is considered a financial gain???

please do not attack me...i am jus a poor little guy who plays the guitar. :(

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by DoCk
Elvis ...biggest star of all time??? :eek:



That's come-back Elvis. Pre-Vegas Elvis was much smaller.

:D

[Benny]

Originally posted by Deathbox
You need to learn maturity and accept opinions which differ from yours. That said, I don't care if I ver come back to this place. I've already seen the retards of this place, being you and Lyrik.

Looks like DH is still mad he got kicked off... :eek:

[jackson13]

Originally posted by Benny
Looks like DH is still mad he got kicked off... :eek:

DH got kicked off? I didnt know that. Wasnt he a mod too?

[silentasylum]

someone not thinking before they speak

some of those movies were not only great movies but also huge box office hits. so back to the original point, it's only opinion, not fact.

[TheDeadWalk]

An actor... is an actor... is an actor... is... well, an actor.

Whether in their off time they rip, rap, rop, bop, top, sop, kip, kop, lip, top, jizz, or bop, our time would be best spent judging each by their individual performances.

[The Postmaster General]

Ockham's razor.

[Freeway]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Ockham's razor.

Wha?? What? I'm so confused..??.?

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by Freeway
Wha?? What? I'm so confused..??.? Ockham's Razor (http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node10.html)

More on this here (http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci212684,00.html)


I don't get why he said it, but this is what he said.

[TheDeadWalk]

I guess it may of been in reply to my post... or just reinforcing what I had said, perhaps.

Whether in their off time they rip, rap, rop, bop, top, sop, kip, kop, lip, top, jizz, or bop, our time would be best spent judging each by their individual performances.

-Edit. Sort of a double post... was meant as one single post, but ended up into two parts somehow... -

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
I guess it may of been in reply to my post... or just reinforcing what I had said, perhaps.



Ockham's Razor:
"in trying to understand something, getting unnecessary information out of the way is the fastest way to the truth or to the best explanation. "

Hence, forget that they are a rapper, or member of Destiny's child for two hours of your life. Sit down, and watch the movie, and make your judgements after watching the performance. Going in with a pre-made negative stereotype will only retard your enjoyment of the film, or attempt thereof.

[Damned Martian]

I think it's the latter. It's still quite forced, IMO.

[silentasylum]

retard your enjoyment of the film great way of putting it.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Hence, forget that they are a rapper, or member of Destiny's child for two hours of your life. Sit down, and watch the movie, and make your judgements after watching the performance. Going in with a pre-made negative stereotype will only retard your enjoyment of the film, or attempt thereof.


That's a brilliant way of putting it!

It's making problems that aren't really there.

Take for example people blaming violence in movies for shooting sprees performed by insane people. Everyday, we say that the violence is second in nature to the fact that these people are crazy. That's Ockham's Razor in effect -- we are taking the shortest path to the most logical answer: You have an insane person in both instances, with and without the violence in the movies. By considering the violence in movies, you are adding extra variables, and complicating the issue; you are taking a longer path.

Really all anyone is saying in support of this rant is:

"I don't like bad actors, and I also don't like rap stars who are bad actors."

Then we go on to single out specific bad actors who are also rappers, while leaving unscathed, hoards of white, I mean, other actors who suck just as much, or more so in the case of Snoop Dogg, Master P, and The Fat Boys vs. the entire Brat Pack - epescially Judd Nelson.

You want something rant worthy -- what about white actors attempting to rap in an effort to capitalize on black culture? ie. Dan Aykroyd and Tom Hanks in 1987's Dragnet.

Or, you could just say that people who can't rap shouldn't. Your call.

[silentasylum]

capatilizing on black culture? I never thought of that. the dragnet scene is an aweful example simply because it was made for our amusement only. I doubt if dan aykroyd or tom hanks were trying to gain an african american following by doing that. in fact, this seems like a rant directed towards the music industry and really has nothing to do with the movie biz.