Guns in movies (rant)

[Squirrel_X]

*POTENTIAL SPOILER? I DUNNO, I JUST DONT WANNA PISS ANYONE OFF*

Ok, lets preface this rant with this statement: I like guns, I know more than the average person will ever care to know about guns, and im sick and tired of how guns are used in cinema. For example:
1) 95% OF THE TIME (or more!) a character takes the clip out of an automatic pistol/rifle/etc. and it is therefore rendered "safe" WRONG! Everyone knows that a round is automatically chambered when the previous round has been fired. (Damn that pisses me off...)

2) OMFG, how many rounds do these guns hold?!?!? Jesus H. Christ! I've seen .45 pistols (which weren't high capacity) fire upwards of 13+ rounds without reloading. I've seen revolvers fire more than 10+ rounds! Case in point, in Matrix Revolutions (which all in all wasn't a "horrible" movie yet wasn't "great") when the Trainman is shooting at Morpheus et. al. he fires his revolver an ungodly amount of times. In fact, I find it pleasantly suprising when someone does reload their gun or runs out of ammo during a movie [I am one of those people that count every round fired from a particular gun (if I can tell what it is)]. Now, I am not averse to a particular character carrying 50+ clips of ammunition, just as long as they periodically switch them.

3) How about some REALISTIC gunshot deaths fer chrissakes. I mean if you get shot virtually anywhere short of the heart, brain, femoral artery or the aorta you are gonna live longer than 2.5sec while you fall to the ground gurgling on your own blood (ok add throat to the aforementioned list). At least Tarantino did it right in Resevoir Dogs, but I got my beef with QT too.

Ok this really doesn't fit anywhere but im gonna say it anyway...God Damn you Quentin Tarantino....Yes I said it. You are such an intelligent and provocative filmmaker who is able to incorporate a variety of different source materials into a film and make it great (i.e. Kill Bill). HOWEVER...even with all your "might and majesty", is it POSSIBLE to take a little time to review something that is VERY EASY to pick up and correct an error that should not have been made?!??! This is what I am talking about: In Kill Bill, when it shows a shot of the revolver shooting a bullet out into Uma Thurman's character's head (from Uma's p.o.v.) THE BULLET IS NOT SPINNING! You even took the care to show the rifling inside the barrel of the revolver yet you did not care to rotate the bullet....I am ashamed. However Resevoir Dogs more than makes up for any wrongdoing so I take my hasty words back! :D

P.S. Speaking of guns and people getting shot in movies, does anyone know of a character to whom I refer as "The Bearded Chinaman?" I swear to god this guy is in every movie in which the bad guy needs cannon fodder to be blown away by the "good guy". He's, well, hes a Chinese guy with a beard. He was in pretty much every shoot-em-up movie during the craze in the 80's and I've seen him in a few movies here and there since then. BTW, if anyone actually knows this person's name, don't tell me, I think the legend of the Bearded Chinaman is better than the legend of George Win Lee or something like that. I just wanna know if anyone knows who I'm talking about.

[Damned Martian]

Originally posted by Squirrel_X
P.S. Speaking of guns and people getting shot in movies, does anyone know of a character to whom I refer as "The Bearded Chinaman?" I swear to god this guy is in every movie in which the bad guy needs cannon fodder to be blown away by the "good guy". He's, well, hes a Chinese guy with a beard. He was in pretty much every shoot-em-up movie during the craze in the 80's and I've seen him in a few movies here and there since then. BTW, if anyone actually knows this person's name, don't tell me, I think the legend of the Bearded Chinaman is better than the legend of George Win Lee or something like that. I just wanna know if anyone knows who I'm talking about. First of all, guns' mistakes don't annoy me as much as to you, but sometimes it's just unbearable. I can overlook the one in Revolutions, since it's a program and it's inside the Matrix, so who knows if that's one of his powers? But in Underworld it gets to a ridiculous point. :rolleyes:

And second, I think I (and my family LOL :D ) know who you're talking about. Is he the guy that tortures Mel Gibson in the first Lethal Weapon? The one in the first Die Hard that in the hall takes a break to eat some chocolates? Yeah, his pretty much everywhere in an action movie :D When i see him i know "Hu-hom, someone's going to get killed" :p Don't know his name, but i adore him!

[Squirrel_X]

HA! That's the guy! Yah, thank the gods someone knew who I was talking about, heheh or else I'd feel pretty lame lol. Yah, I wrote that rant at like 4am and midstride my internet went kaput, so I saved it to a .txt file and just went ape at it for like 15min (sans cigarettes mind you *shudder*). Yah I'm not really as pissed off as I made myself out to be, heheheh. Atta way, post #1, lmao.

[The TZA]

Yeah, it would have been nice if you'd written "Kill Bill SPOILER" instead of just writing "spoiler" and leaving me to guess.

[ZoMBiEPeEpSHoW]

Hehe... I know exactly who you are talking about. Me and my friends idolized him at some point. Heck I even know his name. But alas, at the request of some... I won't divulge it here.

[Luke-Abbott]

I don't know the guys name but I know who your on about, he was in Godzilla as well (was one of the passengers in the opening scene on the boat).

But about your rant on the matter of guns, I could care less. Sorry, but I don't think it would be as entertaining if they took every detail on the guns reloading system as they do in real life. This is the "movie-world" and last time I checked action movies were made so we (the auidence) would be entertained.

I mean, when you watch an action movie don't you always point your hand at the mirror in a gun-holding position and just blow away insanely? I'm sure some of us have jumped on our beds and shot invisible bullets with invisible guns. Thats the whole perpose, to entertain. Movies aren't meant to be taken serious, they are meant to be entertaing. Its fun to see "the good-guy" shoot large amounts of bullets at the "bad-guys", its just fun to watch. Fun, Fun, Fun :)

[Damned Martian]

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Praise our hero! :D

[Squirrel_X]

HA! Wow for being so ripped and trained in the martial arts (I would guess from his film roles) he sure gets killed a lot. Sucks. Btw on the topic of movies for fun, yeah I know, but this is the rant section, and if thats the only thing I can rant about movies then I have it pretty good, eh? Heheheheh.

[Gregorious8]

That man was also in Die Hard.

He's badass.+

[Jim H]

Gun use, it depends. Sometimes it gets to the point of stupidity and distracting (there aren't many cases of this to me, except when it is SUPPOSED to be realistic and isn't) and times where the style works great (John Woo, CYF fires two chinese CZs [guess there] about 60 times in the opening).

The worst are films like American Ninja, where people fire rifles in the most retarded way imaginable. They fire from the hip holding it way out from their body, which is incredibly unnatural way of holding it - if you just pick up a rifle, that is NOT how you would hold it, even with no experience. It must be deliberate, but I can't figure out why. That bit annoys me somewhat.

I also like it when you see a small, frail looking woman firing a Desert Eagle in each hand - like in Charlie's Angels Full Throttle. That could very well injure her wrists. Of course, that movie is so incredibly stupid, I don't know why I'm even criticizing it.

[Grim H.]

I'm sorta in the middle. I believe if you're talking about a movie like Army of Darkness, where the shotgun never needs to be reloaded, then that's okay because it's meant to be silly. BUT, if you're talking about a movie that's based on the laws of the real world, then it can be annoying to see someone fire 7+ bullet with a revolver. I can overlook the Kill Bill thing, because I didn't even think of that...

[Deathbox]

so long as there are no rappers using guns, I have no objection.

[Freeway]

Originally posted by Deathbox
so long as there are no rappers using guns, I have no objection.

Nope, some rappers use guns to kill people in real life. Or else they are killed by people using guns. Tupac Shakur, for one, was gunned down.