No more slow motion!

[Shockwave]

This is a rant about slow motion fighting! Stop it! No fucking more! It was original and cool when the first Matrix came out, but now every son of a bitch is ripping it off, paying homage to it or just plain smearing it acorss every action movie there is! From the first Matrix to Resident Evil, Spider-Man, Blade 2, and so many otherr countless knock off action movies that it hurts to even think about, i must say im quit sick of it! Hell, it got to the point that even Shrek made fun of it! The idea has now been doubly overused with the 2 Matrix Sequels. This idea has been plunderd for all its worth, and its past time to stop!

Okay!

Rant over!

[Jon Lyrik]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees, IIIIIIIIIIIIIII aaaaaaaaagreeeeeeeee.

IIIIIIIIII haaaaaaaaate sloooooooooooow mooooooooootion.

IIIIIIIIII blaaaaame the Maaaaaaaaaatrix and Blaaaaaaaaaade for staaaaaaaaarting it.

Eeeeeeespeeeeeeeeciaaaaaly wheeeeen iiiiiiiiiit iiiiiiis parooooooooodyyyyyyyyed foooooooooooooor the thooooousandth tiiiiiiiiiime.

[Slim]

Originally posted by Shockwave
This is a rant about slow motion fighting! Stop it! No fucking more! It was original and cool when the first Matrix came out, but now every son of a bitch is ripping it off, paying homage to it or just plain smearing it acorss every action movie there is! From the first Matrix to Resident Evil, Spider-Man, Blade 2, and so many otherr countless knock off action movies that it hurts to even think about, i must say im quit sick of it! Hell, it got to the point that even Shrek made fun of it! The idea has now been doubly overused with the 2 Matrix Sequels. This idea has been plunderd for all its worth, and its past time to stop!

Okay!

Rant over!

The Wachowski Brothers didn't invent slow motion or slow motion fighting. Therefore, not every action movie is paying homage or ripping off it.

[Grebdron]

This rant is directed at you, JOHN FUCKING WOO.

STOP IT ALREADY.

[Shockwave]

The Wachowski Brothers didn't invent slow motion or slow motion fighting. Therefore, not every action movie is paying homage or ripping off it.

No, but they perfected it to the point that it became mass marketed and shoved into every action movie known to man.

ITS JUST NOT COOL ANYMORE!

If i see slow-mo fighting in Aliens vrs Preditor i think ill puke.

[Mog]

I agree slow-mo has been kind of repetitive lately, but sometimes it just works in an action sequence. I often find myself while coming up with an action scene in one of my screenplays imagining a certain part in slow motion, mainly because it just adds to the suspense, excitement, etc. Sometimes it just helps said sequence flow well. I actually would like to see wider, slow tracking shots of action sequences. If not those, then slow motion...at least I can see what's going on. But that's just me...

[APzombie]

Rent John Woo's Hard Boiled and The Killer....

These films OWN slo-mo, it is used on all the right levels, man. It makes the action 10,000x cooler.

[docholiday_13]

I thought Below and Road to Perdition had outstanding yet sparingly used slow motion.

So as long as smart and creative Directors and DP's use it, I'm good.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Grebdron
JOHN WOO.



Quite possibly the greatest action director of all time. Second only to Sam Peckinpah.

[Grebdron]

Or, quite possibly the most ridiculously over-hyped hack in the business.

Either one.

[Quiver]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Or, quite possibly the most ridiculously over-hyped hack in the business.

Either one.

Ahhh, I sense some bitterness towards Mr. Woo's body of work from Greb. (Bitterness from Grebdron? Who would have guessed it?!;) )

As for the slow-mo debate, I think it works well in certain instances if it is not over-done, but movies like Charlie's Angels and House of the Dead over-use it to the point of self-mutilation (ie, too much can make you want to cut your own eyes out, stuff popcorn in the empty sockets and run screaming from the theatre, shedding tears of butter)

Or maybe that's just me...:confused:

[Grebdron]

Originally posted by Quiver
Ahhh, I sense some bitterness towards Mr. Woo's body of work from Greb. (Bitterness from Grebdron? Who would have guessed it?!;) )

Am I that transparent?

His movies are fucking painful. Broken Arrow was the WORST "A" list movie I have ever seen, period.

[Shockwave]

too much can make you want to cut your own eyes out, stuff popcorn in the empty sockets and run screaming from the theatre, shedding tears of butter

Damn well said!

homer simpson voice- mmmm butter...

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Grebdron
Or, quite possibly the most ridiculously over-hyped hack in the business.

Either one.


Yeah, I think I'm right. He's not a hack. Hollywood just fucks him over on a daily basis.

[Tuukka]

It all seemed to start with Peckinpah, and it has been going for 30 years or so. Maybe we just have to accept it.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Tuukka
It all seemed to start with Peckinpah, and it has been going for 30 years or so. Maybe we just have to accept it.


Peckinpah was a genius.

[Scarface98.9]

I actually think slow-mo works quite well in fight scenes, but only sparingly and the use of it. Hard Boiled and The Killer use it very well, and there's some good use of it in modern movies, but when a movie pretty much relies on it (like the freeway chase in The Matrix Reloaded) then it gets repetitive and annoying. It's a hit or miss concept, though for fight and chase scenes, I think the visceral impact of "regular" motion is a lot more affecting

[HeavyK]

I love slow-mo action scenes but think they should be used only when needed to better the experience of that scene. I agree it's being used way too often nowaday's though and in scenes that just don't need it.

[Solid Snake]

Slow motion is great when used right, the best directors for slow motion are John Woo and the Wachowski brothers. What is annoying is when these crap directors use slow motion just for the sake of using it. Thats the problem. These crap directors have ruined slow motion, especially bullet time. Main offenders are crap movies like Charlies Angels and other stupid action movies.
They're ruining action films.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Solid Snake
and other stupid action movies. They're ruining action films.



Kinda of like the Matrix sequels.

[gyro_44]

I can't support this rant, because I just dig John Woo-style slow motion. I think it's completely operatic. The Wachowski brothers obviously thought so too, and took a cue from Woo for their now-classic lobby shootout in the original "Matrix".

I agree, it can be overdone and become an annoyance when directors have no clue how to use slo-mo. But I'm a fan more often than not.

[Corpse Candle]

UNDERWORLD is a great example of a bad film that uses slo-mo effects in hope that it would move the film to a higher level.

Pathetic is a great is example of a word I would use to describe upon how succseful this action was;)

[Shockwave]

Kinda of like the Matrix sequels.

Very ironic. Also very true.

[James Logan]

Originally posted by APzombie
Rent John Woo's Hard Boiled and The Killer....

These films OWN slo-mo, it is used on all the right levels, man. It makes the action 10,000x cooler.

Yup. That's what I call slick slow-mo, not just slow-mo for slow-mo (MATRIX REVOLUTIONS anyone?).

And John Woo rules. His movies are visually poetic, spectacular, and just plain breathtaking. Okay, so BROKEN ARROW sucked -- but it had Christian Slater and John Travolta, it was doomed from the start.

[bankholdup]

Ok, this is slightly off-topic, but still deals with slow motion.

I've got a Media teacher, and she helps us with our editing when we have our problems. Her #1 solution, you ask? "Add slow motion." One student made a video with quick cuts, and plenty of them. The last shot was someone running after another..."That should be in slow motion." Uh...why? So the whole mood can get fouled up? Every damn time there is a shot of someone walking, she wants it in slow motion. Everything else is at a nice, even pace, and she wants to go about and add slow-motion. Damn lady...


Had to get that out there, since this is somewhat of a topic for it.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by James Logan
[Bbut it had Christian Slater and John Travolta, it was doomed from the start. [/B]



HEY, Christian Slater may be a poor man's Nicholson, but he still kicks a lot of ass!


Now Travolta on the other hand, couldn't act his way out of a porno.