Charles Chaplin

[Briare Rabbit]

Charlie Chaplin was a genius. He made great movies, wrote fantastic stories and composed beautiful music. But he was a disturbed soul, and a sad one. He became more and more like the Little Tramp he portrayed as the years passed before his death on Christmas day in 1977. But we do not mourn his death, he lived a long life, and as said, was a cinematic genius and one of the forefathers of cinema.

YAY

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[Jon Lyrik]

I don't think I need to say why he was a comedic badass.

Did anyone see the Attenborough biopic Chaplin? Pretty good.

[Hannibal21]

One of the biggest, loveliest YAY's I can muster.

I fucking love Chaplin, he was a indeed one of the greats, and have made many EXCELLENT movies.

Chaplin's films are very unique. On the outside they seem like comedies, and yes...they do have many comedic moments that always put a smile on my face. But, if you look deep down beneath The Little Tramp and his movies, you'd find them tender and at times, heartbreaking. It fully details what it is like living out in that big world out there, in that kind of society, but the fact that people do survive and still live a satisfactory life is something to be greatly admired. City Lights is my favorite Chaplin film, it explains more about love than many other romance films combined, and it also features one of the most moving moments in history. The Gold Rush is one of his more funnier films, but even that, isn't without heart and warmth. All of Chaplin's films possess those type of qualities, which makes them so great, and there are realistic moments in those films, that we can always cherish.

YAY! YAY! YAY!

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Can there be any other answer?....YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!

[studlyhorrorbuf]

Originally posted by blankpage
Can there be any other answer?....YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!

I say a possible nay. Funny that nobody here gives a crap about the fact that he slept with many underage women and admire him for his genius. Yet people still piss all over Polanski and Allen(non-assualt sex) for their affairs with minors. Both Polanski and Allen only each had experiences with one minor, while Chaplin had experiences with several. My what a double stadard here with Chaplin.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by studlyhorrorbuf
I say a possible nay. Funny that nobody here gives a crap about the fact that he slept with many underage women and admire him for his genius. Yet people still piss all over Polanski and Allen(non-assualt sex) for their affairs with minors. Both Polanski and Allen only each had experiences with one minor, while Chaplin had experiences with several. My what a double stadard here with Chaplin.

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Polanski RAPED an underage girl, which is quite different from having consensual sex with someone. I don't really have a problem with Woody, althought it's a bit creepy that he started dating a girl he basicly had ADOPTED.

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Originally posted by studlyhorrorbuf
I say a possible nay. Funny that nobody here gives a crap about the fact that he slept with many underage women and admire him for his genius. Yet people still piss all over Polanski and Allen(non-assualt sex) for their affairs with minors. Both Polanski and Allen only each had experiences with one minor, while Chaplin had experiences with several. My what a double stadard here with Chaplin.

So you say Nay because of his personal life? It's called seperating the art from the artist. It's a new thing. What do you think of his work?

[studlyhorrorbuf]

Originally posted by blankpage
So you say Nay because of his personal life? It's called seperating the art from the artist. It's a new thing. What do you think of his work?

Well, as I mentioned before, I find it odd that there is no outcry here. To me, Chaplin was/is the worst of the pedophile celebrities in the movie industry. I don't think Chaplin was ever punished for it. He just probably helped create the statotory rape law that we have today. I think Chaplin is worse than Errol Flynn and ten times the perv that people claim Allan to be. Just as long as you don't slam Polanki, Salva, or Allan for their misdeeds, then I have no problem with you praising Chaplin.

As for me thinking of his work, to that I say I really don't know because I have never seen his work, even though they have it at Hollywood Video store. If this vote is about him as an entertainer and not as a person then I abstain. I am not much of a clasical movie fan. To tell you the truth the oldest films I have seen are sixties Bond films and also Vincent Price films from that era, being the big horror fan I am. To date I have only seen one black and white film (original "Night of the Living Dead") and that was it. I guess I am pretty uncultured compared to you fellow Chaplin fans.

I know this belongs in the gossip section, but was it true that Chaplin's last years he had to live in another country due to the public outcry of his perverted life here in the United States?

[Briare Rabbit]

Originally posted by studlyhorrorbuf
I know this belongs in the gossip section, but was it true that Chaplin's last years he had to live in another country due to the public outcry of his perverted life here in the United States?

The same thing happened to Ingrid Bergman, actually.

Chaplin, in person was a very sad person. His films, poetry and music reflect that. He liked people a lot younger than he- and that was alright. It was consensual.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Allen's chick was the adopted daughter of one of Woody's other wives. If so, that is consensual sex, but it's also incest (illegal)

And as for Polanski, like Tuukka said, Polanski raped a girl. So really, that wasn't consensual either. Woody and Chaplin break/broke laws, but they're relationships were in ym eyes, alright.

But Polanski shouldn't have even been brought up. His situation is incomaprible with Chaplin and Allen.

PLUS: Chaplin's youngest girl was 16, I believe. Isn't that the consensual age for sex?

[studlyhorrorbuf]

Originally posted by Briare Rabbit


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Allen's chick was the adopted daughter of one of Woody's other wives. If so, that is consensual sex, but it's also incest (illegal)


But Polanski shouldn't have even been brought up. His situation is incomaprible with Chaplin and Allen.

PLUS: Chaplin's youngest girl was 16, I believe. Isn't that the consensual age for sex?

Correction on Allen's chick: it is his stepdaughter that he married. Technically it is not incest since they are not related by blood. Furthermore, Allen's current wife was adopted from an orphanage I think.

I won't bring Polanski up anymore, even though he was charged with statutory rape and his victim never calls what he did to her as rape.

Age of consent in the United States varies from state to state. I know in the state of Washington has it as sixteen. I heard it might be fourteen in Illionois and possibly a few states in the South like South Carolina. New York has it at seventeen, thus why Allen never went to jail over this. But most states the legal age of consent is eighteen.

[jeo4]

1. The legal age of consent in most states is 18. However, that wasn't the case in Charlie Chaplin's day and age. Many marriages/relationships were between much older men and much younger women, even teenage girls. It was still frowned upon, but in many (if not most) cases not illegal.

2. Woody did indeed leave his previous wife, Mia Farrow after she discovered naked pictures of their adopted teen age daughter, Soon Yi Previn. Incest and pedophilia, pure and simple. I was under the impression Soon Yi was sixteen at the time. That would make it two illegal actions. Woody's career was devastated by his actions.

3. Polanski drugged a girl who was 14 years old. They drank together in a hot tub. When she was to the point of passing out, Polanski sodomized her. Date rape and statutory rape. Both Illegal. Depending upon the laws of the time, sodomy could have been illegal, too. Polanski now lives in France because he would be arrested and tried for his actions here.

Chaplin is dead. He's also one of the pioneers of physical comedy. He's still a classic, even with his faults. Yay from me.

[Tuukka]

Originally posted by studlyhorrorbuf
I know this belongs in the gossip section, but was it true that Chaplin's last years he had to live in another country due to the public outcry of his perverted life here in the United States?

RE:

Nope. He was accused of being a communist. He wasn't really, but McCarthyism was raising it's ugly head at the time.

Chaplin didn't rape children. He had consensual sex with 16 year old teenagers. In my native country it's *legal* for an adult to have sex with a 16 year old girl. Times are different now, but I don't think that what Chaplin did hurted anyone.

As for my take on Chaplin's art, I think he is in the top 5 most important filmmakers of all time. My big personal favourite. A genius.

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Indeed times were different. I it were rape, then I'd have a problem with it. It's not like the women didn't want him to do it. And if they didn't, then I don't think Chaplin was informed. And like stated before, it wasn't illegal. Frowned upon possibly, but all legal.

Whatever the case, he gets a YAY.

[Asokan]

YAY for the incredible artist that he was. I don't care about his private life.