The Road to the SUPERBOWL...2004 Edition

[Haddonfield]

Give it away, give it away, give it away now....Ty Law a poet and a Prophet...:)

[Benny]

Originally posted by Bobajoe
Congratulations on the Carolina Panthers on winning their first NFC Championship. My heart goes out to the Philly fans...that's gotta be tough to watch three straight years. Philly had a good team this year and should be ashamed of nothing. Now we have the P.P. SuperBowl. I realize that New England will be the odds on favorite. But there have been suprises in the SuperBowl the last few years. I'll be the first to pick the underdog Panthers on winning the World Championship. Again, if the Pats can do it...I'll have to credit them as having one of the most impressive seasons in NFL history.

You have absolutely NO IDEA how awful these past 24 hours have been. Espeically to be living up in Patriots country, where everyone was celebrating victory today. I had the day off today, but I bet everyone will be rubbing it in during school tomorrow. For the third year in a row, we've made it to the NFC title game, just to come crashing down again because of poor play. I mean, at least the losses to St. Louis and Tampa Bay were too respectable teams. Who the fuck is a Panthers fan anyway! NO ONE! :rolleyes: The game reminded me of the first game of the season against Tampa Bay. Philly looked absolutely horrible, the whole damn team except for Ducebag basically.

Donovan McNabb, after completing the heroic 4th-and-26 last week, played like a 3rd-string backup QB on the Lions. He got sacked, fumbled, threw bad passes, and threw THREE interceptions, including one right in the red zone. And the injury was the final straw. I knew it was over when Koy came into the game

But it's not entirely his fault. The Wide Receivers also blew it as much as McNabb did. As Joe Buck pointed out, the Eagles' leading WR was Ricky Manning. Thrash, Fred Ex, and Pinkston looked uninterested and must have had grease on their hands or something to have dropped all those passes. Especially Todd Pinkston. He was the Bill Buckner of the team on Sunday.

And the Defense! AAARGH! They cannot stop the big-name running back. They couldn't stop Green last week, and this week netiehr Davis nor Foster! They also seemed totally out of it. The refs are culpable as well. Not calling a penalty on that late hit by Carolina #53 to injure McNabb's ribs was completely unacceptable. Carolina got away with like 20 pass interferences as well.

The instant-replay rule also must be abolished. The refs overturned two questionable calls in Philly's favor two weeks in a row due to the crappy instant replay system. I still believe that the refs made the right call to begin with, and that both of those rulings should not have been overturned.

I guess I should be happy at how well they did the rest of the year, like my mom told me to. But it's so disappointing to have come so far, just to see it all crashing down again. I know how Red Sox and Bills fans feel now I guess. The Eagles are my favorite of all the Philly teams. I had high hopes for them this season as always. I believed in miracles... :(

Personally, the Pats-Panthers Super Bowl matchup is not very desirable to me, and I don't know if I can even bear to watch the game. I don't think the game will generate a lot of national interest, and it will be boring, as the Pats will easily defeat Carolina. I still am deciding which team to root for. It's like choosing the lesser of two evils.

[Haddonfield]

Benny


I feel for you. Most Philly teams are my 2nd choice and I thought they could get there this year. I can tell ya that in my house there are some pissed off people because of that game.

Just blame Bobby Clarke for everything! :)

[jeo4]

I'm not in the habit of spewing out angry shots at any team, but I'm just sick of the Patriots. The worst thing that could have happened in the AFC happened on Sunday. Yet another repeat trip to the SuperBowl. I'm also sick of hearing every Pats fan ram it down my throat how great they are. And I'm sick of the media heaping it on about how great Tom Brady is and how the Pats are unstoppable. (If anyone denies this, they haven't been paying attention to ESPN, Sports Illustrated the Sporting News, or any other form of sports media.) I've listened to it all season long. It truly nauseates me. My only hope is that the Panthers can accomplish one more miracle in two weeks. It could be the only thing that makes this SuperBowl worth watching.

That said, I need to make my pick.

SUPERBOWL XXXVIII

Houston, Texas
February 1, 2004

The Patriots are there again. It's their fourth SuperBowl ever and their third in seven years (apparently, my age was showing in a previous post). The Patriots offense competely shut down the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday. Peyton Manning looked frustrated as he was picked off four times. Then again, the Colt's defense wasn't having a good time in the snow either. The Patriots marched out and did their job. It was over before it began and now it looks like the Patriots are going to win it all one more time.

Then again, here come the heart attack cats. The Carolina Panthers made mincemeat out of Philadelphia's offense. This is Carolina's first appearance in the SuperBowl. Their last NFC Championship game pretty much ended quietly. Not so this time. 14-3 isn't a huge score, but it proves that the Panthers had what it takes to outgun the Eagles' offense and hold Donavan McNabb at bay. So can they do the same with Tom Brady and the New England offense?

The answer, sadly, is probably not. The Pats looked better than ever against arguably the best offense in the NFL. As with every Championship, the defense takes the game. After watching the New England defense pick apart Peyton Manning, it's safe to say that the New England defense is on fire. This makes fourteen consecutive wins for the Pats. On Sunday, fifteen is coming.

In a low-scoring defensive game, the Pats will earn their second ring.

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by jeo4
I'm not in the habit of spewing out angry shots at any team, but I'm just sick of the Patriots. The worst thing that could have happened in the AFC happened on Sunday. Yet another repeat trip to the SuperBowl. I'm also sick of hearing every Pats fan ram it down my throat how great they are. And I'm sick of the media heaping it on about how great Tom Brady is and how the Pats are unstoppable. (If anyonje denies this, they haven't been paying attention to ESPN, Sports Illustrated the Sporting News, or any other form of sports media.) I've listened to it all season long. It truly nauseates me. My only hope is that the Panthers can accomplish one more miracle in two weeks. It could be the only thing that makes this SuperBowl worth watching.

That said, I need to make my pick.

SUPERBOWL XXXVIII

Houston, Texas
February 1, 2004

The Patriots are there again. It's their fourth SuperBowl ever and their third in seven years (apparently, my age was showing in a previous post). The Patriots offense competely shut down the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday. Peyton Manning looked frustrated as he was picked off four times. Then again, the Colt's defense wasn't having a good time in the snow either. The Patriots marched out and did their job. It was over before it began and now it looks like the Patriots are going to win it all one more time.

Then again, here come the heart attack cats. The Carolina Panthers made mincemeat out of Philadelphia's offense. This is Carolina's first appearance in the SuperBowl. Their last NFC Championship game pretty much ended quietly. Not so this time. 14-3 isn't a huge score, but it proves that the Panthers had what it takes to outgun the Eagles' offense and hold Donavan McNabb at bay. So can they do the same with Tom Brady and the New England offense?

The answer, sadly, is probably not. The Pats looked better than ever against arguably the best offense in the NFL. As with every Championship, the defense takes the game. After watching the New England defense pick apart Peyton Manning, it's safe to say that the New England defense is on fire. This makes fourteen consecutive wins for the Pats. On Sunday, fifteen is coming.

In a low-scoring defensive game, the Pats will earn their second ring.


Yep, sucks dont it? :)

[Benny]

Originally posted by sharkstank

as for the eagles, they are choke artists. the receivers suck, the backs did ok, the line did ok, and they were still only down by 11 pojts in the fourth.but what don mcnabb did was horrendous. he has played with A BROKEN ANKLE before, and bruised ribs took him out of THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. that was sickening. his team went to war for him and he left em in the fourth quarter. i had respect for him, but that is inexcuseable. look at mcnair, he sure as hell wouldn't have left the game, or any qb for that matter. his injury made have been nagging him, but it wasnt that bad. going tinto halftime he jogged off the field, and terry bradshaw said that if it was serious, there was no way he'd be jogging. so somethings up. all downhill from here for the eagles, and mcnabb is garbage. no sympathy, as they are over rated, especially mcnabb, who couldnt pull through when they needed him
bobajoe, i think the fans should be ashamed. they have been here three years now, with solid teams and they cant move ondue to their own uneven play. look at mcnabbs stats in the three games, 1td and i think 6 int's. they dont belong in anymore championship games, and the fans expected nothing less than a sb appearance. horrible disappintment, as they will lose players, and they are not getting any better, while other nfc teams like dallas, atlanta, washington, tb, gb, sf, seattle, minnesota and maybe even the bears and saints will leapfrog them.
strider, my raider fan bud, its no curse. its inconsistency and belkieving in your own overrated hype. looks like limbaugh may have been right, and it would probably be recognised as so if he didnt add that ignorant comment about race.

Although he sucked on Sunday, McNabb is still NOT overrated, and Rush Limbaugh STILL is a piece of white-trash shit. Look at what Donovan F. McNabb had to work with this year and the past 2 years for that matter. They were definitely a ragtag crew of WRs and RBs, no prime-time players like Marvin Harrison or Stephen Davis on the team. McNabb has no go-to guys on 3rd Down, no one who he can count on to make the big play. How could a QB be overrated if he has no one to work with and has led his team to 3 straight NFC Championship games? How can the Eagles be overrated? Is a QB overrated when he complete a 4th-and-26 pass late in the game? The Eagles have been the most consistent team these past 3-4 years. Most other teams' records have fluctuated; look at how the Bucs and Raiders did last year, and how Carolina was 1-15 2 years ago. Even though we can't win championships, we're still probably better than your favorite team.

WWWWHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D

[Haddonfield]

The best part about this, after all the bckering, and as said before...with all the draft picks and the coaching staff still in place...these hated Pats are going to own the NFL for a little while.

[the bark]

But it's fair to say that New England hasn't played a team with the running game Carolina has in the playoffs either.
Carolina's game against Dallas was supposed to be close, then they weren't supposed to defeat either St. Louis or Philadelphia at the other teams stadium, and now the patriots are going into this game thinking they have it in the bag, just like St. Louis did 2 seasons ago when everyone thought they couldn't be defeated.
Yeah they have a good coach, so does Carolina, New England had a superbowl team in place 2 seasons ago to build on, Carolina was 1 - 15 2 seasons ago as everyone knows. I think Fox is obviously every bit as good as Bilk considering that and how the 2 teams play their games so consistently.
Say what you will about New England being a football machine, Carolina has been also when it's mattered most, through the playoffs. They're very much in the position New England was in 2 seasons ago.
That said, "there's a reason they play the game". How many times have we heard and lived that in sports?

[PapaJupe2k]

I was just kind of wondering where all this hate is coming from toword the Patriots? Things may be different on the East Coast no doubt, but I don't really know anyone around here that despises them. To me they just seem like a down to earth blue collar team, I like that. Carolina too for that matter, I'm not going to be sad seeing either team win this one.

I guess both teams kind of remind me of my beloved Iowa Hawkeyes.:) Really the similarities are striking, that is why I like both teams. Not many flashy big name big salaried primadonna's. Both teams do it with defense, strong running games, excellent fundamentals and execution, and great coaching. It's funny Haddonfield mentioned the fact that Pats wanted to be introduced as a team in the last Super Bowl. Ever since 1990 when the Hawkeyes come out on the field they do "the swarm". Instead of running out individually they come out hand in hand in a big swarm of people, I've always thought that was extremely cool. Kind of a show of unity that is refreshing. It may not be a high scoring shootout, but it will very intense and should be a great game. I'm looking forward to it.:)

Leave it to me to sneak some college talk into this thread, I'm ashamed of myself, I just cant wait until next September.:D

[the bark]

I hardly hate the patriots myself, I'm for Carolina in this game but there's a lot of teams I don't care for more than the patriots. I don't really get the sense that everyone hates them from what I read on here.
I was definitley cheering for them 2 seasons ago against st. lous and I thought it was something else that it was the patriots on top after the season sep 11th happened.
Nothing wrong with the college football talk, it's the 2nd best level of football there is after high school.
And it brings up a good point, most people were so certain oklahoma couldn't be defeated going into their last 2 games, and they had been more dominating by far against their competition than the patriots have against theirs.
At least they have a playoff system in the nfl though.

[Strider]

Originally posted by sharkstank
i really hope panthers win, as i HATE the patriots as a raiders fan. i actually think the panthers will win, as they have a great d, and the offense will open it up. patriots luck runs out feb 1, as panthers will beat em.

You're right, sharkstank. It simply isn't possible to even remotely like the Patriots, if you're a Raiders fan. If you're a Raiders fan, you can do nothing but hate the Patriots. And that's pretty much how I feel about the Patriots. I am totally sick and tired of the Patriots, and all the media attention they're getting. I'm sick and tired of the media making them out to look like America and God is on their side. I'm sick and tired of the media saying how magnificent, incredible, and spectacular the Patriots. I'm sick and tired of the media calling the Patriots the "next dynasty".

If the Panthers could pull off one of the biggest upsets in SuperBowl history, and finally defeat the Patriots, that would be one of the greatest moments in NFL history. The Panthers appear to be a team of destiny, and I know they want that Lombardi trophy more than anyone can imagine.

I don't care what anyone says, the Panthers chances to win this game are good. They have a great defense, a good running game, and a solid QB. The Panthers are more than capable of defeating the Patriots once and for all. And I pray they do.......

Of course, if (heaven forbid) the Patriots were to win the game. I'll give them my reluctant congratulations, but I'll still be one pissed off NFL fan. And you know why? Because a Patriots victory at SuperBowl XXXVIII will turn the 2003 regular season and the postseason into something worthless and forgettable. And that's pretty much the last thing I want to see happen.....

GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the bark]

I don't figure it would be considered an upset though.

[Boba Joe]

Originally posted by sharkstank
bobajoe, i did rush. i should have had more perspective on it.


Actually, wasn't dogging you my friend. It was my lame attempt at a Limbaugh joke. I won't quit my day job. :)

[Morgana]

Originally posted by PapaJupe2k
I was just kind of wondering where all this hate is coming from toword the Patriots? Things may be different on the East Coast no doubt, but I don't really know anyone around here that despises them. To me they just seem like a down to earth blue collar team, I like that. Carolina too for that matter, I'm not going to be sad seeing either team win this one.


I'm rather surprised by the hatred towards the Pats myself. It sounds like some people hate the Pats because they get a lot of media coverage... I live in the Northwest, but even if the Pats do get a lot of media coverage on the national level, to me they are still that team that is way, way, WAY on the other side of the country. They're almost exotic they're so far away.

The Pats definitely don't get much attention on a local level in my parts, the only thing that matters around here is the UofO Ducks. That's all you'll ever hear about on local sports news, and if one is a football fan, it's either of the Ducks or the Beavers. And good lord almighty...if people here happen to be into the NFL they're into the Detroit Lions only because Joey Harrington used to play for the UofO. :rolleyes::D:D I'm sure if Eugene (or the whole state of Oregon, for that matter) had a NFL team things would be different, but we're a college football town/state. So college sports coverage takes precedence. No overexposure to the Pats, no hatred of the Pats, I guess. GO PATS! :)

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Yep, sucks dont it? :)

More than you could possibly understand. Congrats to you for your team's success.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Strider
You're right, sharkstank. It simply isn't possible to even remotely like the Patriots, if you're a Raiders fan. If you're a Raiders fan, you can do nothing but hate the Patriots. And that's pretty much how I feel about the Patriots. I am totally sick and tired of the Patriots, and all the media attention they're getting. I'm sick and tired of the media making them out to look like America and God is on their side. I'm sick and tired of the media saying how magnificent, incredible, and spectacular the Patriots. I'm sick and tired of the media calling the Patriots the "next dynasty".

If the Panthers could pull off one of the biggest upsets in SuperBowl history, and finally defeat the Patriots, that would be one of the greatest moments in NFL history. The Panthers appear to be a team of destiny, and I know they want that Lombardi trophy more than anyone can imagine.

I don't care what anyone says, the Panthers chances to win this game are good. They have a great defense, a good running game, and a solid QB. The Panthers are more than capable of defeating the Patriots once and for all. And I pray they do.......

Of course, if (heaven forbid) the Patriots were to win the game. I'll give them my reluctant congratulations, but I'll still be one pissed off NFL fan. And you know why? Because a Patriots victory at SuperBowl XXXVIII will turn the 2003 regular season and the postseason into something worthless and forgettable. And that's pretty much the last thing I want to see happen.....

GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think you've hit the mark. I'm in agreement with you on many levels. (Except I'm a Chiefs fan, but let's not split hairs here.) I believe that if Carolina could pull off an upset, it would be great. I'm also 100% in agreement with you that the Patriots win on February 1 would negate the season.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
The best part about this, after all the bckering, and as said before...with all the draft picks and the coaching staff still in place...these hated Pats are going to own the NFL for a little while.

Let's hope not. It's not worth watching football if one team runs the table year after year. But I think you're getting ahead of yourself, if not outright making brazen assumptions that could be proven false in just a few months. Nobody owns this sport. Bill Belichik (sp.) is not God, and the Patriots are not this undefeatable dynasty. They can be beaten. It may not happen at the SuperBowl, but it sure as hell can happen on any Sunday afterward.

[Grebdron]

Patriots 24 - Panthers 10

Both of the championship games were boring, IMO.

But Foster's TD run was incredibly fun to watch.

Two Bruin alums had great games. DeShaun Foster and Ricky Manning, Jr.

Go Bruins!!;)

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by jeo4
Let's hope not. It's not worth watching football if one team runs the table year after year. But I think you're getting ahead of yourself, if not outright making brazen assumptions that could be proven false in just a few months. Nobody owns this sport. Bill Belichik (sp.) is not God, and the Patriots are not this undefeatable dynasty. They can be beaten. It may not happen at the SuperBowl, but it sure as hell can happen on any Sunday afterward.

Hey, im just having a little fun here. I want to be able to look back 10 or 20 years from now have this team have a nice 4-5 year run that goes down in history along sides some of the great Cowboys and Green Bay runs. Remember, the Pats were the laughing stock for years and were not very good for a long time. and besides, teams in Boston never win anything, this is our chance.

[Rated R]

I just played the Superbowl game on ESPN NFL FOOTBALL for my PS2 and Carolina came out on top 31-26. High scoring and Delhomme was awful, but Davis racked up 200+ yeards on the ground, GOOOO PANTHERS!

[Strider]

Originally posted by jeo4
I think you've hit the mark. I'm in agreement with you on many levels. (Except I'm a Chiefs fan, but let's not split hairs here.)

No, we don't have to split any hairs whatsoever there, jeo. The Chiefs are fine in my book. I absolutely love the rivalry and games they share with the Raiders..... :D

Oh damn it! I just mentioned the name of THAT team! I promised I wouldn't mention their name until the 2004 NFL season started! Damn it, I deserve a hit on the head.... ;)

Strider

[Boba Joe]

Originally posted by Rated R
I just played the Superbowl game on ESPN NFL FOOTBALL for my PS2 and Carolina came out on top 31-26. High scoring and Delhomme was awful, but Davis racked up 200+ yeards on the ground, GOOOO PANTHERS!

...I wonder if 989 Studios still plans to have "The Game Before The Game" during SuperBowl weekend. For the last 7 or 8 times, whoever has won the game has gone on to win the SuperBowl. I know streaks are made to end, but I think it might continue this year. I wasn't even aware that NFL GAMEDAY was still being made. Hope they don't switch to MADDEN NFL {Great game, but the "cover curse" could cross over to the game. LOL}

[Strider]

Originally posted by Rated R
I just played the Superbowl game on ESPN NFL FOOTBALL for my PS2 and Carolina came out on top 31-26. High scoring and Delhomme was awful, but Davis racked up 200+ yeards on the ground, GOOOO PANTHERS!

Good to hear, R! Now, I just want it to happen in reality..... :D

GO PANTHERS!!!!!

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Hey, im just having a little fun here. I want to be able to look back 10 or 20 years from now have this team have a nice 4-5 year run that goes down in history along sides some of the great Cowboys and Green Bay runs. Remember, the Pats were the laughing stock for years and were not very good for a long time. and besides, teams in Boston never win anything, this is our chance.

*Rubs temples* The Red Sox season...ow....yeah, that still gives me a headache. If it's any consolation, I really (more than any other team in the playoffs) wanted to see Boston win the World Series. Oh well. At least Boston has their football team. If the Pats win their second SuperBowl, they're officially not a loser team anymore. Then I can go back to hating them. ;)

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Strider
No, we don't have to split any hairs whatsoever there, jeo. The Chiefs are fine in my book. I absolutely love the rivalry and games they share with the Raiders..... :D

Oh damn it! I just mentioned the name of THAT team! I promised I wouldn't mention their name until the 2004 NFL season started! Damn it, I deserve a hit on the head.... ;)

Strider

Don't feel bad, dude. At least THAT team made it to the SuperBowl a few times. KC is always getting knocked out of the playoffs. Oh well...there's hope for the Chiefs yet. :cool:

[Strider]

Originally posted by jeo4
Don't feel bad, dude. At least THAT team made it to the SuperBowl a few times. KC is always getting knocked out of the playoffs. Oh well...there's hope for the Chiefs yet. :cool:

You're right, jeo. THAT team has made it to the SuperBowl a few times, and as a fan, I should be grateful for that. Alas, last year's crushing loss at SuperBowl XXXVII against the Bucs pretty much changed THAT team forever. I'm not sure if they will ever be the same again, but I'm hoping they will someday.

To be honest with you, jeo. I think your team has more hope than mine. All the Chiefs have to do is fix their defense, and they'll get into the SuperBowl for sure. As for the OTHER team, well, I'm just going to leave that topic alone until the 2004 season.... :D

Strider

[the bark]

"teams in Boston never win anything, this is our chance"

New England 2 seasons ago?

[Strider]

Two important questions about......

SUPERBOWL XXXVIII

Question #1 - Will SuperBowl XXXVIII be a boring game?

Question #2 - Will SuperBowl XXXVIII draw in high ratings?

First off, the reason why I'm asking these questions is simply because they have been on mind since Sunday. Anyway, getting back to the questions. As for the first question, I'll have to answer with a very loud "No". I've discussed this SuperBowl with several individuals, and they believe it will be the worst and most lethargic SuperBowl since the Giants-Ravens game. However, I disagree completely. I think SuperBowl XXXVIII will be a solid and entertaining game because it will be a great defensive war between both teams. And this is without mentioning that you have some good matchups within the game itself. There's Bill Belichick against John Fox, Tom Brady against Jake Delhomme, and Ty Law against Ricky Manning. This will be a solid SuperBowl, no matter what the outcome of the game is.

As for the second question, I honestly don't think the ratings for SuperBowl XXXVIII will be that high. Don't get me wrong, the game will draw in good ratings, but it certainly won't be as high as previous SuperBowl's. I think the Eagles needed to defeat the Panthers and win the NFC Championship for the ratings for SuperBowl XXXVIII to be huge.

Ah, I'm so glad I got that out. I feel much better.... :D

Strider

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by the bark
"teams in Boston never win anything, this is our chance"

New England 2 seasons ago?


Read my entire post. I want a run of 4-5 years like all the great football teams. I want this team and coaches to go down in history. and they will :)

[Haddonfield]

.....Double......

[horrorfreak13]

Now to answer those two questions

1) I don't think it will be that boring of a game nothing could be more boring than Baltimore-Giants in 2000 the most boring superbowl ever. I think this will be exciting and as long as it is a close game going into the 4th QTR I think fans will take it as entertaining and this game may not have the best two teams offensively but they both can put up some points.

2) The obvious answer here will be yes because a lot of people tune in for the commercials and no doubt people always do.

RANT: And we get stuck with the stupid simulcast which screws us from seeing the damn commercials stupid fuckers.

A lot of football fans will tune in even those who are not a fan of these two teams which I'm not either.

[Morgana]

Originally posted by Strider
Two important questions about......

SUPERBOWL XXXVIII

Question #1 - Will SuperBowl XXXVIII be a boring game?

I don't think so. I think it has the potential to be a good game. I'm pretty excited about it.

Question #2 - Will SuperBowl XXXVIII draw in high ratings?

I don't want to guess, but I know I'll be watching.


I have a question of my own...

Question #3 - Who here gives a rat's ass about the halftime show? I don't. ;)

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by Morgana
Question #3 - Who here gives a rat's ass about the halftime show? I don't. ;)

I don't remember who's perfoming at halftime but I remember Kid Rock's name or something so I probably don't.

Here's another one Who's going to order the Lingere Bowl at Halftime? I'm not sure if I have enough money right now but that would be somewhat interesting :D

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by horrorfreak13
I don't remember who's perfoming at halftime but I remember Kid Rock's name or something so I probably don't.

Here's another one Who's going to order the Lingere Bowl at Halftime? I'm not sure if I have enough money right now but that would be somewhat interesting :D


Trust me, the anticipation will be better than the show.

:)

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Morgana
Question #3 - Who here gives a rat's ass about the halftime show? I don't. ;)

Unless it involves Britney Spears blowing one of the players on stage to the tune of "Oops, I Did it Again", I could give a rat's ass too. :eek:

:D

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Unless it involves Britney Spears blowing one of the players on stage to the tune of "Oops, I Did it Again", I could give a rat's ass too. :eek:

:D


2009 half time show...its a done deal! :)

That of couse is after she had been in rehab 4 times....

[Strider]

Originally posted by Morgana
Question #3 - Who here gives a rat's ass about the halftime show? I don't. ;)

Good question, Morgana. Honestly, I usually always look forward to the halftime show. But this year's halftime show doesn't really sound that great.....

Janet Jackson
Kid Rock
P. Diddy
Nelly

Can't say I'm too excited..... ;)

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Strider
Janet Jackson
Kid Rock
P. Diddy
Nelly


Yuck!

What's the theme this year? White trash and has-been's? :rolleyes:

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Yuck!

What's the theme this year? White trash and has-been's? :rolleyes:

Please forgive my obvious frustrated behavior on this thread today. You see, these piece-of-shit Canadian stations we have here, prefer to cash in on the Superbowl and for the last few years have been playing their own commercials during the game.

So, we don't get to see the cool commercials unless we got a satellite dish!

The ads are half the FUCKIN' FUN of the Superbowl in the first place!!!!!!!

So, like sheep, we have to wait 'til the next morning and catch those commercials on a news program or something. By then, even I don't give a shit anymore.

It sucks! :mad:

Rant over

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Yuck!

What's the theme this year? White trash and has-been's? :rolleyes:

I believe so

jesus I think Beyonce is singing the national anthem and I don't know who's going to be on the 15 hour pre-game show :confused: Hell it feels like it's it 15 hours long

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Please forgive my obvious frustrated behavior on this thread today. You see, these piece-of-shit Canadian stations we have here, prefer to cash in on the Superbowl and for the last few years have been playing their own commercials during the game.

So, we don't get to see the cool commercials unless we got a satellite dish!

The ads are half the FUCKIN' FUN of the Superbowl in the first place!!!!!!!

So, like sheep, we have to wait 'til the next morning and catch those commercials on a news program or something. By then, even I don't give a shit anymore.

It sucks! :mad:

Rant over


Agreed that sucks I got to get Direct TV somewhere or just find a house or bar with one.

As long as I don't have to see Shop Global TV ads every 30 seconds like I saw all christmas break wanting me to pay $69.99 for some fucking thing I can't afford I should be somewhat fine.

It still sucks that we don't get to see those damn commercials

[the bark]

"Read my entire post. I want a run of 4-5 years like all the great football teams. I want this team and coaches to go down in history. and they will"

I read the entire post, and you said they never won anything and that this was their chance. A superbowl title in '02 is not "never winning anything".
As for their dynasty which hasn't happened yet, I wouldn't have much stock in it anymore, the nfl was much different when teams like san fran made history. Now you can be 1 - 15 1 season and in the superbowl 2 seasons later.
I know you want a run like that, but everyone else does to, it ain't gonna happen just cause you want it to.

[sharkstank]

i think i love strider and jeo4:D

anyway, the eagles have been consistent, but other teams have been too. the colts, THAT team (excluding last season they won 3 straight division titles) the titans, the packers, the rams, and the ravens have been consistent winners the past 3-4 years. granted the eagles have been to 3 straight conference title games, they havent won, so i still dub mcnabb a bit overrated.

and Benny, how DARE you use my WWWHHHHHHHOOOO. NEVER DO THAT AGAIN:D

i like parody, i just want MY team to be good every year;)

as for the questions

#1
it will be a defensive struggle, but it wont be boring to a football fan. the the average viewer it may be, but i dont think so since it'll be a close game.

#2
everybody watches the super bpwl, so ratings will be good.

#3
i dont give a rats ass about the halftime show

btw,
Super Bowl XXXVIII
Panthers 20
Patriots 14

WWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[PapaJupe2k]

Originally posted by Strider
SUPERBOWL XXXVIII Question #2 - Will SuperBowl XXXVIII draw in high ratings?
As for the second question, I honestly don't think the ratings for SuperBowl XXXVIII will be that high. Don't get me wrong, the game will draw in good ratings, but it certainly won't be as high as previous SuperBowl's. I think the Eagles needed to defeat the Panthers and win the NFC Championship for the ratings for SuperBowl XXXVIII to be huge.Strider [/B] I dont really know that much about tv ratings and the complexities behind them, but I was just kind of wondering why you think it would have drawn better ratings with the Eagles? About the only marquee player they have is McNabb and they are about as far from being a flashy gilitzy team as the Panthers are. Is there that much more interest in Eagles? That many more fans? Maybe if there was a west coast or midwestern team instead of two east coast clubs more people would watch, but I doubt it. It will most likely be a defensive struggle, but I don't think that will keep viewers away. Even people that haven't watched a football game all year will watch because well, it's the Super Bowl.

This could lead into another rant about non-football fan know-it-alls who think they have all the answers, but another time.:D People like that drive me crazy around Super Bowl time.

Halftime show... nah I wont be watching. Maybe there will be a rerun of Gomer Pyle airing somewhere I can watch during halftime.:)

[Strider]

Originally posted by PapaJupe2k
I dont really know that much about tv ratings and the complexities behind them, but I was just kind of wondering why you think it would have drawn better ratings with the Eagles?

It's simple. I really do believe there would have been much more interest and excitement for this SuperBowl if the Eagles had won the NFC Championship. Not only do I think the Eagles have more fans than the Panthers, but I honestly think more people would be interested in an Eagles-Patriots. If the Eagles were going to the SuperBowl instead of the Panthers, I think there would be a lot of fans rooting and cheering for the Eagles on SuperBowl Sunday.

And let's face it.... Donovan McNabb vs. Tom Brady? Holy shit! I would pay to see that matchup, especially at the SuperBowl.

Just my 2 cents on the whole SuperBowl ratings scenario.... :D

Strider

[Strider]

Originally posted by horrorfreak13
I believe so

jesus I think Beyonce is singing the national anthem and I don't know who's going to be on the 15 hour pre-game show :confused: Hell it feels like it's it 15 hours long

Yes, Beyonce will be singing the National Anthem. I'm sure you're happy to hear that..... :D

As for the NEVERENDING pre-game show... Aerosmith, Willie Nelson, and Toby Keith will be the performing musical artists. And who knows who else will be appearing. The damn show is so long, I'd probably guess the whole world will make an appearance as well..... ;)

[Strider]

Originally posted by sharkstank
i like parody, i just want MY team to be good every year ;)

Ditto. I want THAT team of mine to be good and kick ass every single year. But I can't always get my way, and damn it, it causes a lot of torment on me emotionally..... :D

[Strider]

Here are my more specific SuperBowl predictions......

SUPERBOWL XXXVIII

Carolina Panthers - 21
New England Patriots - 17

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by the bark
As for their dynasty which hasn't happened yet, I wouldn't have much stock in it anymore, the nfl was much different when teams like san fran made history. Now you can be 1 - 15 1 season and in the superbowl 2 seasons later.
I know you want a run like that, but everyone else does to, it ain't gonna happen just cause you want it to.


Thank you, you are making my point. It is near impossible to have a run like the great teams did years ago because you are right, you can be 1-15 then in the playoffs, so when a team is able to have sucess for a few years now, its almost more difficult to do. If the Pats do win, its 2 in 3 years with the same club next year about a zillion draft picks too. The coaching staff are very smart and scouts know what they are doing, they had numerous injuries but because of there strong drafting, didnt miss a beat.

All that adds up to something special in my eyes. Only time will tell how good or bad these Pats are/become. But I will support them and be a pain in the arse the whole way. :) :D :rolleyes: :cool: :eek: :p

[jeo4]

1. The Superbowl will be an absolute snorefest. I look for a very low scoring game with nothing explosive happening on field. Both offenses will move, but I think New England's will be a bit more productive. If Carolina can manage to slip by the Pats defense a couple of times and score, the game might be more interesting. I just don't see it happening.

2. The half time show looks to be simply awful. Kid rock isn't a terrible act, nor is Janet Jackson. However, I have no desire to watch this show. I just am not interested. However, my future girlfriend Angie Everhart will be in the lingerie bowl. Maybe I'll see if I can't sneak in on that action.

3. The SuperBowl will still garner big ratings, but I don't see any records being broken. The commercials are awesome and that's my main reason for watching right now. My heart goes out to you, Indiana.

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by jeo4
The commercials are awesome and that's my main reason for watching right now

I still wish the bastards at Global didn't simulcast the damn game with CBS or every damn US network us Canadians might get a few of these commericals but not all of them which mean I'll have to watch CNN between their war coverage to find out what commercials I ended up missing that night. Either that or rip off a Direct TV signal somewhere.

[jeo4]

Yeah, that really sucks. If these networks had any sense, they'd have more deals world wide for the SuperBowl. At least you get to see the game.

[the bark]

That would definitley be something special even 2 super bowls in 3 seasons, but that would still be a long way to go to the dynasty you're writing about, draft picks and all. Lots of examples of teams that look very strong on paper with no results, tampa bay is the best example of late.
Carolina might put a quick end to New England's dynasty before it starts anyway.
But your enthusiasm and optimism for your team is commendable.http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/iy/76/37b52ba607c971e9553e42fae53dd1.gif

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by the bark
That would definitley be something special even 2 super bowls in 3 seasons, but that would still be a long way to go to the dynasty you're writing about, draft picks and all. Lots of examples of teams that look very strong on paper with no results, tampa bay is the best example of late.
Carolina might put a quick end to New England's dynasty before it starts anyway.
But your enthusiasm and optimism for your team is commendable.http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/iy/76/37b52ba607c971e9553e42fae53dd1.gif

2 out of 3 is no dynasty, but Im thinking long term, Im talking 4 out of 5! :D

It could all be a moot point, espn had there simulated game in which the Cats won 17-13...that and Brady shaved off his playoff beard! thats 2 strikes. :)

[the bark]

I don't know much about those video games but oddly a kansas state fan played out their football season on 1 of those back in the summer and the 1 game they didn't win on the video game was the marshall game. Who knows.
At least it takes 3 strikes to be out so you at least still have the actual game.

[Benny]

1. Yes it will be a close game, but low-scoring. Both teams are very evenly-matched. I still don't have my pick to win yet though. As I say every year, this will be the year the Super Bowl finally goes into overtime.

2. It will draw high ratings in my area (New England), but I think if the rest of the country could care less. Who the hell can call themselves a Panthers fan anyway? Who's out buying Delhomme and Davis jerseys in mass quantities? Not a lot of people...

3. I wish I could order the Lingerie Bowl on pay-per-view, because it looks like the halftime show will suck. So I'll be doing the same thing I do every year at halftime, shitting out all the chili beans I've devoured. :D

[RicochetShaw]

My SuperBowl prediction.....


Patriots - 3
Panthers - 0 (after 3 OT's)



:D :p ;)

[Shakamaker]

Sorry to ask what's obvious to you NA Schmoes, but they've decided to play the game with the roof open, weather permitting, yes? What's the surface at Reliant? Grass or synthetic? I can only recall seeing one Texan game on Oz tv this season, and I thought it was grass.

[the bark]

I'm almost certain it's the latest field turf, turf that is more like natural grass, not 100% certain about that though.

[horrorfreak13]

Well to pass on some NFL news Frank Wycheck has retired from the NFL today after 11 season. He's only 32 yeesh!

Also since the Raiders are having a hell of a time finding a head coach to sort out that mess rumors indicate that Norv Turner a former Redskins head coach might be considered for the team's head coaching job. I've always loved to see him back in the game but I'm not sure this is the team he should come back with.

[Strider]

Originally posted by horrorfreak13
Also since the Raiders are having a hell of a time finding a head coach to sort out that mess rumors indicate that Norv Turner a former Redskins head coach might be considered for the team's head coaching job. I've always loved to see him back in the game but I'm not sure this is the team he should come back with.

This news is futher proof why THAT team is going down all the way to hell itself. I can not believe that Al Davis is having this much of a damn hard time trying to find a head coach! But even though I would like to see the team with a coach eventually, I really don't want Turner or Payton. I'd actually wish Davis would hire Jim Fossel instead. Now, I don't think Fossel would co-exist very well with THAT team, but the man needs a fucking job! I don't believe how none of those 6 teams he conducted an interview with didn't hire him. I can just imagine Fossel right now, he's probably in one unbelievably profound state of depression..... ;)

[Moviefan1234]

My Super Bowl prediction:

Patriots 21
Panthers 6

Tom Brady is leagues better than Jake Delhomme, and that is the difference. Both have awesome defenses, but the better QB will win the game.

[sharkstank]

NORV TURNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WWWWWHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Strider]

Sharkstank, my friend, I'm not sure I can share your excitement about Norv Turner as the new head coach of THAT team. I'm glad Al Davis was finally able to get a coach for the team. But with all honestly, I think Norv Turner was a desperation act/hire by Davis. Anyway, I somehow doubt that Turner will be able to co-exist with the Raiders and Davis, but it will certainly be interesting to see what happens once the 2004 season begins.

[RicochetShaw]

Originally posted by sharkstank
NORV TURNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Agreed. :D

[Shakamaker]

I think I'm looking forward to this more than most. I don't mind the prospect of low scores at all. I think NE's versatile defence will get them over the line.

[Benny]

I've made up my mind... Go Patriots!!!!!!!!! I'm still just so mad at Carolina that I can't bear to root for them, even though Pats fans do need to learn a lesson in humility. :p

As for the prediction, every year I predict that the Super Bowl will go into overtime, this year is no exception.

Super Bowl XXXVIII:
New England 19
Carolina 16
(Overtime)

Vinatieri will be a hero once again for Patriots fans...

[horrorfreak13]

Coming from a Redskin fan I'm glad Norv Turner got another chance but he's got to turn around a really messed up team right noe so good luck

[bmain77]

You guys have to check out Bill "the Sports Guy" Simmons super bowl pieces over on ESPN's site. I know some of you read his stuff already, but those of you that don't need to check him, especially the Pats fans (He's from Boston). Few people can make me laugh like he does. That concludes the spamming section of my entry.

I'm not sure of the Raiders hiring of Turner. I think Davis must believe that Turner will be so grateful for a head coaching job that he'll sit back and let Davis have more control than he should at this point. Even Rick Neuheisal would have been a better hire in my opinion.

[Clarkey07]

I know that a lot of people are going for New England...but I'll be cheering for the Panthers for 2 reasons:

1. They are 1 of my 2 teams.

2. I can't stand Tom Brady or the New England Patriots.

So WHEN the Panthers beat them on SUnday it will be even more sweeter.

[jeo4]

I admire your optimism, Clarkey07.

[Boba Joe]

My official Super Bowl prediction:

Carolina Panthers 20
New England Patriots 17

[Haddonfield]

3 days away, heres my UNBIAS take :)


New England Patriots - 27
Carolina Panthers - 13


Its a close game till the 3rd quater.

[Boba Joe]

Carolina Panthers are going to win.
So says Sony's 989 Sports, the creators of NFL GameDay.
For the last 8 years, who ever has won "the video game" has gone on to win "the big game."
Will it be 9 years straight?!
Carolina Panthers 29
New England Patriots 21

We shall see...

[Indiana Sev]

New England Patriots - 14
Carolina Panthers - 3

Go Pats!

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
New England Patriots - 14
Carolina Panthers - 3

Go Pats!


Sev for President!!!

Hey, it is an election year fer us in the states. :)

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Sev for President!!!

Hey, it is an election year fer us in the states. :)

The Demopats versus the Republicats? *Rimshot in backgound*:rolleyes:

[horrorfreak13]

Well for me I still think the Patriots will win this game and it will be close. I'll be glad when the 15 hour pre game show ends

http://espn.go.com/i/page2/quickie/040130_quickie.jpg

:D I just had to post that it's so fucking funny.

[jeo4]

Classic toon, horrorfreak13! :D

[Guy Strong]

New Endland Patriots - 10
Carolina Panthers - 17

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/iy/76/37b52ba607c971e9553e42fae53dd1.gif New Super Bowl Champions

[Grebdron]

This is Bill Simmons' take on why the Pats will win the Super Bowl, and I pretty much agree with all of it.

HOUSTON -- Right now, it's pouring rain outside. When I write my book about Super Bowl XXXVIII, it's going to be called "Just Another Crappy Day in Houston!"

Anyway, something has been bothering me all week: Everyone down here thinks Carolina will give the Patriots a close game, possibly even winning outright. This seems to happen every time there's a mismatch on a paper, but the game seems just close enough that everyone has a good time talking themselves into the underdog. That's what happens when you have two weeks between Championship Weekend and the Super Bowl.

What drives me crazy is when people who should know their stuff casually dismiss the Pats. Like Chris Mortensen -- we were arguing in the ESPN makeshift offices today. He thinks that the Panthers can win. "Are you crazy?" I kept saying to him. "You've been covering football forever. You should know how these things work!"

Mort wouldn't budge. Apparently, he thought Carolina's performance over the past three weeks was much more impressive than New England's performance over the past four months. Which certainly makes sense.

Chat with the Sports Guy
Bill Simmons will chat on Friday at 10 a.m., ET, in The Show, live from the Super Bowl in Houston.

So let's talk about it -- logically, without even mentioning a single matchup. Just look at the two teams. To get here, the Panthers drew a mediocre Cowboys team, a comically coached Rams team, then a banged-up Eagles team that lost its best player in the second quarter. Just two months ago, they lost three consecutive games. Now they're a juggernaut because they emerged from a terrible conference?

Listening to this heresy the past few days, I don't know whether I want to argue with this people or encourage them. Please keep thinking this. Seriously. Maybe the line will dip below seven by game time. At this rate, I'll have HDTV, XM Radio and a 40-inch plasma TV by the end of the playoffs.

I'm saving my big pick for Friday -- you probably know where I'm headed. In the meantime, think about the Patriots and their 14-game winning streak. For some reason, this keeps getting overlooked. You would think a 14-game winning streak was hard to overlook. You would think.

Consider the following things:


The Pats lost their last game against the Redskins on Sept. 28. The baseball playoffs started two days later. Now, we're about three weeks away from pitchers and catchers reporting ... and they still haven't lost a game. Only one other team in the history of the league -- the '72 Dolphins -- has won more games in a row than New England. And nobody seems to be even mildly impressed by this.


Richard Seymour and the Pats defense have allowed just one 100-yard rusher this season.

Of those 14 victories, eight of them came against teams that won 10 games or more. The Panthers only played four teams with a winning record all season ... and they still lost five games! If this were the BCS, they would have been playing in the Galleryfurniture.com Bowl.


Looking back over these past four months, the best teams were the Pats, Titans, Eagles and Colts. They were the cream of the crop. And the Pats went 5-0 against those other three teams. Has that ever happened before?


During the duration of this streak -- 14 consecutive wins over nearly four months -- do you know how many times the Pats made the cover of Sports Illustrated? Zero. Not once. They were never favored by more than eight points in any of the 14 games. So why not continue to overlook them this week?


As amazing as this sounds, they still haven't played their best game. In none of those 14 wins did they slap together four top-notch quarters in a row. Seriously. Maybe the closest was the Buffalo game in Week 17.


The Pats defense has only allowed one 100-yard rusher all season. Sixteen of the 18 quarterbacks they played ended up with a lower QB rating then they had for the rest of the season. They also have the best coach in the league. And their starting QB has a record of 39-12. Apparently none of this matters.


Remember Tom Brady has already won a Super Bowl.

They're playing the fourth seed from the NFC ... and the NFC absolutely sucked this season. The disparity between the two conferences hasn't been this glaring since the early-'90s. Just look at what happened with that Packers-Seahawks-Vikings-Cowboys debacle in the past two weeks -- the Pack went from needing a miracle to make the playoffs to being everyone's sleeper in the span of 12 hours.

Anyway, if the Super Bowl has taught us anything, it's this: When the best team from a superior conference has two weeks to prepare for an upstart team from an inferior conference, the game usually gets out of hand early (see San Diego-San Fran, Denver-Atlanta, Baltimore-N.Y. Giants, Chicago-New England). Especially with a shaky QB on the inferior team involved.

For the team from the inferior conference, the Super Bowl feels like jumping from the All-Pro level to All-Madden. That's just a fact.


The Panthers lost three consecutive games less than two months ago. They also prevailed in three of the luckiest games of the season -- the fourth-and-10 to beat the Jags, the blocked extra point to beat the Bucs, and Jim Haslett's meltdown in New Orleans. Yeah, you need some luck ... but they were three plays away from being 8-8.

You could make a case that the Panthers are the weakest team that has ever made a Super Bowl (and if I had more time, I would). It's between them, the '95 Chargers and the '99 Falcons -- at least on my list. Has any team ever won a conference championship by having their QB throw three times in the second half of a relatively close game? Come on. You think John Fox took the ball out of Delhomme's hands because he wanted to rest him?

And with all of that said, here's the line for this week's game: Patriots by 7. And the majority of people like the Panthers.

Please tell me how any of this makes sense.

[Benny]

May I reiterate one last time...

GO PATRIOTS!!!!!

P.S. I'm turning 17 tomorrow- I can finally go into R-rated flicks legally! :p

[Morgana]

My SB prediction:

Pats - 17
Panthers- 9

GO PATS!!

[Strider]

Damn! I'm already getting pumped up for SuperBowl Sunday. I can feel the energy and excitement running through my veins. The SuperBowl XXXVIII weekend has officially begun, and I can not wait until the kickoff!

Oh Btw.....

GO PANTHERS!!!!!

[Boba Joe]

Originally posted by Strider
GO PANTHERS!!!!!

Ditto.

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Grebdron
The Pats lost their last game against the Redskins on Sept. 28. The baseball playoffs started two days later. Now, we're about three weeks away from pitchers and catchers reporting ... and they still haven't lost a game. Only one other team in the history of the league -- the '72 Dolphins -- has won more games in a row than New England. And nobody seems to be even mildly impressed by this. [/B]


What does anyone else need to know?

That my friends, is a STAT that can not be overlooked....read it over a few times...and come Sunday night at about 9pm....read it one more time....

2 out of 3. Brady, MVP.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
What does anyone else need to know?

That my friends, is a STAT that can not be overlooked....read it over a few times...and come Sunday night at about 9pm....read it one more time....

2 out of 3. Brady, MVP.

It's not so much that I'm not amazed and enthralled by the Patriots streak and penchant for winning, its just that I can't really stand them.

It's a long shot for the Panthers, but I want them to win. It also gives that gutsy "Underdog" feeling to root for them, and it should be fun doing so.

With the Patriots success, coaching, and loads of draft picks coming their way, they do look to be securing themselves a dynasty.

But to shamefully rip off, and modify a saying from my good (imaginary) friend Samuel L. Jackson, I'd like to say:

Yes I hope they die, and I hope they burn in hell!

[bmain77]

As has been quoted form the sports guy by Grebdron and others, you cannot argue with that insane winning streak. The Patriots beat all very tough teams, while the Patriots have beaten an overacchieving team (Cowboys), the dumbest coach this side of Wayne Fontes (the rams and Martz), and a superstar with no help at all (Eagles).

Throw in the Pats defense that has allowed only one 100 yard rusher all season and a defense that rattled King Peyton, you have to pick the Pats. If Peyton couldn't solve that defense, I'm thinking Delhomme (i wish I disliked the Panthers so I could bust out with the immature Delhomo call) can't do a whole hell of a lot to it. They simply cannot win by just running the ball.

I first predicted a 13-10 Patriot victory. My final prediction is 23-10. My prediction MVP will be Deion Branch.

I also predict that I willl want to do bodily harm to Deion Sanders within the first two hours of the pre game hoopla.

And the first person to be voted off Survivor after the Super Bowl will be that Susan bitch from the first season.

[Strider]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
But to shamefully rip off, and modify a saying from my good (imaginary) friend Samuel L. Jackson, I'd like to say:

Yes I hope they die, and I hope they burn in hell!

LOL! That's great, man. I also would love to see that happen later today..... :D


GO PANTHERS!!!!

[Benny]

Quick Final Super Bowl Thoughts before the game tonight:

I HATE the Panthers!!! The Patriots-Eagles game would have been the ideal matchup in this year's Super Bowl. The Panthers have nowhere near as good of a year-long storyline as my Eagles did.

Once again, the Patriots will win, but in overtime. The Panthers will cover the 7-point spread, but Vinatieri will kick the winning field goal in OT and be named Super Bowl MVP.

Is anyone actually ordering the Lingerie Bowl at halftime? And if so can I come over and watch it? Damn you, pay-per-view!

Mmm, chili tastes goooood....

[horrorfreak13]

Well for my final football prediction I like the Pats in this game and I think they will win it, and I will win $20 from my friend who is also the same person who bet me saying last year's Superbowl was going to be close and Oakland was going to win and I said Tamp was going to win by 2TDs and they won by like 28 or something.

AnywayI like The Pats to win this game and unlike last year this one will be closer than most people think I say 20-17 New England.

This should be enjoyable

(RANT)

P.S. I'm angry that I'm not going to be seeing the damn commercials the only god damn time I want to see commercials and instead no the CRTC says we have to get fucking screwed watching Global's broadcast you stupid fucking bastards :mad:

(RANT OVER)

[Strider]

SuperBowl Sunday is here!!!!

And there's only 3 hours until kick-off!!!

Whoooooooooooooooooo!!!!




GO PANTHERS!!!!!

:D

[Moviefan1234]

hf13, we'll be sure to tell you how great the commercials are. ;) :D

The more and more I think about it, I'm sticking to my guns and keeping my prediction the same. 21-6 with the Pats pulling ahead in the second half behind Brady's right arm.

[Morgana]

Well, I wish they had the guys from Fox commentating instead. Bradshaw will liven anything up.

3 more hours...


GO PATRIOTS!

[Boba Joe]

Originally posted by Morgana
Well, I wish they had the guys from Fox commentating instead. Bradshaw will liven anything up.


Yeah, but we would also be stuck with Cris Collinsworth and Joe Buck {shudders}...you'd have to take the good with the bad.

[Morgana]

Originally posted by Bobajoe
Yeah, but we would also be stuck with Cris Collinsworth and Joe Buck {shudders}...you'd have to take the good with the bad.

True, true. And I am on my first glass of red wine right now, so I'm sure the pregame show will become interesting any minute now. ;)

Where is that funny picture...

http://espn.go.com/i/page2/quickie/040130_quickie.jpg

Ah yes, that's what I'm working on. :D

[Haddonfield]

Enjoy the game everyone. Im off to my little neck in the woods. and remember...Its just a game...:)

Go Pats!

[Morgana]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Enjoy the game everyone. Im off to my little neck in the woods. and remember...Its just a game...:)

Go Pats!

It's just a game? Come on Haddonfield...surely you'll be around for the after-game RUMBLE between the Pats and Panthers fans.

Just kidding. Have fun watching the SuperBowl in your neck of the woods. :)

[Boba Joe]

Originally posted by Grebdron
in RicShaw's Mid-Season Superbowl Winner Poll :

NO TEAM with Jake DelHomme at QB will be going to the Superbowl.

Don't worry dude. Silly me was hoping the Chiefs would make it.

[TheDeadWalk]

Well, doesn't look like it's Vinatieri's MVP day.

Nothing like watching the game on NFL.com gamecenter!

3-15-CAR 19 (11:16) A.Smith up the middle to CAR 18 for 1 yard (W.Witherspoon, M.Minter).

4-14-CAR 18 (10:40) PENALTY on CAR-M.Willig, Defensive Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 18 - No Play. (Defense simulated a snap.)

4-9-CAR 13 (10:33) A.Vinatieri 31 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-B.Kinchen, Holder-K.Walter.

EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!

Fuckin work.:rolleyes:

[Indiana Sev]

I hope you American schmoes will be kind enough to describe to us all the wonderful commericals we are missing now.

FUCK YOU GLOBAL!! :mad:

[Lynn Minmei]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
I hope you American schmoes will be kind enough to describe to us all the wonderful commericals we are missing now.

FUCK YOU GLOBAL!! :mad:

There was an embarrassing one with a bear.

I don't want to talk about it.

[blankpage]

So, how's everyone's Superbowl going?! :D


14-10 for the Pats at this moment.


Well, the first two halfs were interesting. Man, for two strong defensive teams, there were a lot of weak moments. I didn't know how Delhomme was going to finish the first half. 3 sacks. Things picked up a bit when the Pats scored a TD.


Anyway, the half-time show sucks...oh well.

[Indiana Sev]

*Ahem*, can you say...

http://tv.dynastie.free.fr/img/dynasty-gen.jpg

[SubMethod]

So, anybody else see Janet Jackson's boob?

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by SubMethod
So, anybody else see Janet Jackson's boob?

I missed it! :mad: But I saw both of Jessica Simpson's. :)

*Drool*

[TheGodSon]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
I missed it! :mad: But I saw both of Jessica Simpson's. :)

*Drool*


hope I don't get banned for this...

it's the only one I could find.

Kinda hard to tell if it's covered though. Pretty sure it's pierced.


http://z24racer.com/janet1.jpg:D

[Morgana]

Originally posted by SubMethod
So, anybody else see Janet Jackson's boob?

Is that what I was seeing? I wasn't sure... I was thinking it couldn't be. Not during the SuperBowl while young kiddies and all are watching. I guess that is what I was seeing. lol

[Lynn Minmei]

I just got that pic by browsing around some unsavory internet message boards.

This may be the next Madonna + Britney.

[Indiana Sev]

Not too flattering, Ms. Jackson! :rolleyes:

[TheGodSon]

Originally posted by Lynn Minmei
I just got that pic by browsing around some unsavory internet message boards.

This may be the next Madonna + Britney.


I was pretty shocked when I saw it. It was very brief and and even by that pic, it was hard to tell if she had anything covering it...

[Lynn Minmei]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040202/capt.sbx18202020152.super_bowl_sbx182.jpg

I'll let their faces judge the situation.

[TheGodSon]

Here's a video reply. :D

http://www.eyebeeem.com/janet_superbowl.avi


I think it is in fact, uncovered, and pierced. Interesting.



And here is a much clearer picture. Amazing how this stuff circulates the internet so fast.


http://members.cox.net/www/janet.jpg

[Lynn Minmei]

I was JUST about to post that same pic.

GodSon, you and I have got to be looking at some of the same sites or something...

[TheGodSon]

Originally posted by Lynn Minmei
I was JUST about to post that same pic.

GodSon, you and I have got to be looking at some of the same sites or something...


yeh, but I got the video replay!! :D

[Lynn Minmei]

Before GodSon can post it...

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040202/i/r2794264459.jpg

[Morgana]

I thought it was kinda funny that the commentators didn't even flinch...not a peep from them. I thought for sure they'd say something about the halftime show, but then again, what would they say?

Back to the game... New England just scored. SWEET!

[blankpage]

Smith has just scored a TD to make it 20-10 for the Pats.


Man, Timberlake looks horny in those pictures.

[Indiana Sev]

Carolina has taken the lead.

[blankpage]

HOOLLLYYY SHHHIIITT!!


Delhomme's play was amazing!


Panthers finally lead! Only by one point, but still...


Damn, what a play!


GO PANTHERS!!

[Morgana]

Originally posted by blankpage
HOOLLLYYY SHHHIIITT!!


Delhomme's play was amazing!



I'm rooting for the Pats, but I have to admit that was one hell of a play. Those rascal Panthers just won't give up. Hmpf! ;)


Sev, don't give up man. There's still 5 minutes left.

[blankpage]

Well, what do ya know? Pats score a TD.


It's going to be close...

[Indiana Sev]

Oh no! A possible overtime session.

I hope that doesn't mean more Janet Jackson! *pukes*

BTW...

GO PATS!!!

[horrorfreak13]

Holy shit it's tied with 1:09 to go. I want OT. Delhomme and Brady are haveing an incredible game tonight.

[Morgana]

We are tied with 1 minute left to go.

This game is more exciting than I ever expected! :cool:

[RicochetShaw]

Well it looks like the Pats are going to win on a field goal. Twas a great game.

[blankpage]

Well...


Either Pats win with a field goal...


...or....


...overtime

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
*Ahem*, can you say...

http://tv.dynastie.free.fr/img/dynasty-gen.jpg

2 TITLES in 3 YEARS!!!!

[Tom Samborski]

That was an awesome field goal kick. A little off-center, but very nice.

[TheGodSon]

http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjj.htm


CBS is fucking pissed at MTV.

[horrorfreak13]

What a game it looked like this gamw was going to put me to sleep but it was better than I expected. What a game and give it up for both teams because they played great.

Congrats New England on the Superbowl win and I get $20 from my friend :cool:

[blankpage]

Well, write down in the books...Pats win 32-29.


It was an excellent game. It really got a jumpstart in the second half. Pats deserved the win since it came VERY close. Lots of offense for two strong defensive teams.


Great Game. Congrats to the Pats. And I bid you good evening...

[outsyder]

WOOO HOOO!!!



GO PATS!!!!


SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS!!


Quite the game, there.

[SubMethod]

Originally posted by Morgana
I thought it was kinda funny that the commentators didn't even flinch...not a peep from them. I thought for sure they'd say something about the halftime show, but then again, what would they say?

Back to the game... New England just scored. SWEET!

I heard one of them say something along the lines of "there is some raw naked football going on in this game", or something like that.

[Morgana]

Glad Vinatieri had a chance to redeem himself, if he had missed that field goal, I would've hurt him myself.

The first quarter looked more like a rusty warm-up, but otherwise this was a very exciting SuperBowl.

Congrats to the Pats!

[RicochetShaw]

I know he was on the losing team, but does anyone else feel Delhomme deserved the MVP tonight?

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
I know he was on the losing team, but does anyone else feel Delhomme deserved the MVP tonight?

It's a tough choice but Brady was very good as well. The only way I would have gave it to DelHomme if he completed more of his earler passes but both QBs were awesome tonight.

I'm not sure if a player on a losing team has ever won the superbowl MVP.

[Sideshow Man]

Originally posted by SubMethod
I heard one of them say something along the lines of "there is some raw naked football going on in this game", or something like that.

That was in response not only to Jackson's performance, but also in response to the streaker who appeared on field.

Great job to both teams. I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina so I'm hurting. However, I'm proud of the Panthers. They went places no one ever believed they could go. Regardless of everyone's predictions, they put up an amazing fight. This was an incredible game, bar none. Congrats Pats, you deserve it.

PANTHERS ARE BACK NEXT YEAR!!! YOU WON'T QUESTION US ANYMORE!!!

[SenorSpielbergo]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
I know he was on the losing team, but does anyone else feel Delhomme deserved the MVP tonight?


Naw, Janet Jackson's boobie definitely deserved the MVP.

[Morgana]

Originally posted by SubMethod
I heard one of them say something along the lines of "there is some raw naked football going on in this game", or something like that.

I must've missed it. Guess I was expecting an in-depth analysis of Janet's boob from Deion, Boomer, and Marino. lol

Guess the NFL is pretty upset. Here on the west coast it wasn't even dinner time yet, I bet lots of parents of younger kids were pissed.

[Indiana Sev]

I can't believe all these people are so upset about someone's naked boob.

The entire start of the Superbowl centered around death and soldiers and war, and I guess that's okay for kids. But a woman's naked breast (as gross as Jackson is) is so offensive. :rolleyes:

These people who are getting upset need to get a hold of themselves!

[Tom Samborski]

Justin Timberlake (a.k.a The Publicity Hog) probably did it on purpose for more publicity. I hope someone puts a bullet in that fucker's head, cause I'm sick and tired of seeing his ugly face on my T.V.

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by Tom Samborski
Justin Timberlake (a.k.a The Publicity Hog) probably did it on purpose for more publicity. I hope someone puts a bullet in that fucker's head, cause I'm sick and tired of seeing his ugly face on my T.V.

Both of those idiots did it for publicity.

Two bullets, please. ;)

[PapaJupe2k]

What are you guys talking about? Did one of her boobs slip out during the halftime performance or something? If it did I must not have been paying close enough attention. Or was it just her provactive outfit that is causing such a stir?

Oh yeah the game was o.k. too.:D

[Haddonfield]

:D

[TheGodSon]

http://www.drudgereport.com/jjteet1.jpg



I had too. :D :D :D



"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."

[Morgana]

Originally posted by PapaJupe2k
What are you guys talking about? Did one of her boobs slip out during the halftime performance or something? If it did I must not have been paying close enough attention. Or was it just her provactive outfit that is causing such a stir?

Oh yeah the game was o.k. too.:D

I personally think the whole thing is hilarious, especially since Timbertwat claims the whole thing was a "wardrobe malfunction."

http://www.canada.com/sports/football/story.html?id=B638D681-2400-4F94-929E-9F1D29D0E886

[PapaJupe2k]

Originally posted by Morgana
I personally think the whole thing is hilarious, especially since Timbertwat claims the whole thing was a "wardrobe malfunction."

http://www.canada.com/sports/football/story.html?id=B638D681-2400-4F94-929E-9F1D29D0E886

"Wardrobe malfunction"... BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!:D That's gold baybee! I think he has hots for Janet personally, that was no accident.:D

[SenorSpielbergo]

hm...

[bmain77]

I love those kind of wardrobe malfunctions.

I couldn't believe my eyes. I was sitting there for like thitry seconds before I said to my dad did we just see Janet's boob. I'm thinking it was staged by that piercing or whatever that thing was on her nip.

As far as the actual game goes, it might just be the best Super Bowl I've seen. Tom Brady may indeed be the second coming of Joe Montana. I demand to know where this Tom Brady was at while he was at Michigan. I have my theories, but thats a rant for another day that will probably get me burnt on a cross at the 50 yd line of the Big House (frigging Lloyd Carr).

It's been stated before but this team is going to be truly scary in the years to come. Imagine if they only land a franchise back in the draft how much more dangerous they'll. But chances are with the way this teams has drafted they are going to unearth some real gems.

The Panthers had just as much right to win the game as the Patriots. They played the Pats pretty tough throughout. I was happy to see Kemp Rasmussen in one some special teams tackles. I played against him in high school. I think he planted me into the ground on a couple plays. I curious to see what they are going to do in the offseason. Foster not going to be happy with playing second fiddle for much longer. Julius Peppers needs to work on the strength some. He was being thrown all over the place on running plays.

Anyways it was a great night. My boy Tom Brady got his second MVP and superbowl. We got to see some celebrity boobs. I want a dog named Fergus. Kid Rock actually rocked. And survivor was pretty cool too. Now on to the draft.

[Tom Samborski]

Overall, I'd say the game was pretty damn exciting (in the second half anyway), but the halftime show was an absolute shit sandwich. Not surprising, considering that MTV organized it.


Kid Rock, Nelly, P Diddy, Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake, they can all kiss my ass.

[SenorSpielbergo]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
This is related to football, how?

heh, I was just trying to create a diversion off of the Janet Jackson issue. :D

[Indiana Sev]

Originally posted by SenorSpielbergo
heh, I was just trying to create a diversion off of the Janet Jackson issue. :D

Yeah, but I have to remove your link. The "Jackson" thing is technically related to the Superbowl event, which is why it's okay to discuss it.

Pretty funny link though.

[SenorSpielbergo]

Originally posted by Indiana Sev
Yeah, but I have to remove your link. The "Jackson" thing is technically related to the Superbowl event, which is why it's okay to discuss it.

Pretty funny link though.

heh, it's ok, that was just a diversion to the "Jackson" thing which is related to the Superbowl which is related to football which is related to sports.

Now everyone shall have to remain curious to what the link was to...hehehe.

[Strider]

Well, SuperBowl XXXVIII is officially over. And I'd first like to say that everyone and their grandmothers underestimated this game. Not only was this a great SuperBowl game, but it was an excellent defensive war between the Patriots and Panthers. This game came down to the wire, and honestly, I really think it could have gone either way. The game was that tight....

Anyway, I'm very disappointed that the Patriots won their 2nd SuperBowl tonight. I was really cheering for the Panthers to pull off the huge upset. And everyone here knows how I feel about the Patriots. Nevertheless, the Patriots did a great job today, and they played a great game. So, I have to relunctantly congratulate them on their amazing season and 2nd SuperBowl victory in 3 years. However, I am not looking forward to the Patriots=dynasty, Tom Brady=Joe Montana, Bill Belichick=Bill Parcells bitching that will definitely take place tomorrow.... :rolleyes:

But let's not forget the Panthers. Jake Delhomme, Stephen Davis, John Fox, and the rest of the team did a fantastic job in their very first SuperBowl. They could have won this game, but Fox's decisions to go for 2-point conversions and John Kasay's final kick proved to be costly mistakes. However, the Panthers have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. From being 1-15 just 2 years ago, and then to get to the SuperBowl 2 years later is an impressive accomplishment. Today, in SuperBowl XXXVIII, the Carolina Panthers made a name for themselves, and that will never be forgotten.

Damn! I can't believe the NFL season is over already. It's going to be a long wait until the 2004 NFL season starts, and an even longer wait until SuperBowl XXXIX in Jacksonville. I'm not sure I can wait, but I will anyway.... :D

[PapaJupe2k]

You aint kidding about Kasay's out of bounds kick, that was an atrociety.:eek: That was a Scott Norwood'esque blunder. I'm pretty sure if Carolina pins them deep, New England would have probably just sat on it and played for overtime. He must feel absolutely sick. Aah the life of a kicker.

That going for two down 21-16 seemed curious at the time as well. I guess most coaches have a chart that tells them when the percentages are best to go for two (at least college coaches do), but I don't believe in it with that much time to go, even in the fourth quarter.

It was a great game though, I figured it would be despite the lack of offense or star power. Delhomme bounced back nicely after a slow start, I don't think there can be anymore questions surrounding him.

Dont despair, training camp in a mere 6 months or so away.:)

[Strider]

Thoughts on Halftime show......

First off, the best thing about the show was Kid Rock. I honestly thought Kid Rock.... well, rocked. I thought it was awesome that he did two of his biggest hits, "Bawitaba" and "Cowboy", instead of his other newer and more country-ish songs.

Anyway, as for Janet Jackson exposing her right breast. Does anybody really care? What's the big deal? To be honest with you, I didn't even notice her boob when it happened. But now that I've heard the news from Drudge and seen the pictures, I think CBS is making too much of a damn big deal. Janet's breast was kind of covered anyway..... I said kind of, damn it! :D

Overall, besides Kid Rock, the rest of the Halftime show was not really that exciting. I despised the way the show ended, it was so boring seeing Janet and that moron Justin Timberlake dancing and singing together. The show needed to go out in a bang, and I don't think JT and Janet's breast was much of a "bang"..... ;)

[Strider]

Originally posted by PapaJupe2k
You aint kidding about Kasay's out of bounds kick, that was an atrociety.:eek: That was a Scott Norwood'esque blunder. I'm pretty sure if Carolina pins them deep, New England would have probably just sat on it and played for overtime. He must feel absolutely sick. Aah the life of a kicker.

You know, I really think being a kicker is the worst possible position in the NFL. There's just so much damn pressure on the kicker to save their team from a loss or win a game on many occasions, especially when the game is so important and huge like the SuperBowl. And when a kicker screws up, and contributes to the teams loss, that must be an absolutely horrible feeling.

Whether its John Kasay or Adam Vinatieri, I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to be in either of their shoes today. The stress would have killed me...... ;)

[sharkstank]

goddamnit

pats won. very good game though, but if some d from the cats would have been shown late, it would be different. and kasey should be fired. how could you do that. jesus

WWWWHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Boba Joe]

Congrats to the New England Patriots on their 15th straight win. I said all along if they could pull that off...they deserve to be World Champion. What an exciting 2nd half that turned out to be.
It has to rank up there with the all time great Super Bowls.
The Carolina Panthers should be proud of what they accomplished this year. Either team deserved to win from their performance (Except Kasey's last kick off).
As for the Janet Jackson "incidient":

I still say Timberlake "plays for the wrong team." This can't sway my judgment. Sissy boy.

[TheDeadWalk]

Of course to all "Pats fans" or followers, the answer is simply "They are the champions, and the result was a W"... But I can't help but want to tell Bill Simmons to suck my dick.

It was a strong showing from Carolina, and including he and several "experts" of the NFL forgot that one simple formula called "Any given Sunday". Talent will get you everywhere, but on any given sunday you can get shorted.

Congratulations to the Carolina Panthers, the "Rocky" of the NFL.

If I had gambled on the spread, I could have been a millionaire... but tis best not to worry about the "What ifs" in life, like the potential herpes on my chin if God would have ever granted me the wish of an evening with Pamela Anderson.

[horrorfreak13]

Anyone figure John Kasey is the goat of the game for kicking the ball out of bounds on the kickoff what in the hell was he thinking.

Well enjoy the supebowl and the appearence Carolina fans because it could come to a crashing hault next year ask a Raiders and Bucs fan or a Rams fan last year.

[TheDeadWalk]

Originally posted by horrorfreak13
Anyone figure John Kasey is the goat of the game for kicking the ball out of bounds on the kickoff what in the hell was he thinking.

Well enjoy the supebowl and the appearence Carolina fans because it could come to a crashing hault next year ask a Raiders and Bucs fan or a Rams fan last year.

Yeah, parity can be a bitch. But in my case, my best friend.

GO BENGALS! woooo!

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by TheDeadWalk
Yeah, parity can be a bitch. But in my case, my best friend.

GO BENGALS! woooo!

Well if Carolina can go from 1-15 and 2 years later go to the superbowl then every team has hope next year.

Well except for the Raiders, Lions, Giants, and Cardinals.

[horrorfreak13]

I unfortunatley just read this now and I don't know how to explain this.

FROM TSN.ca

BOSTON (AP) - New England Patriots fans turned rowdy after their team's Super Bowl victory, flipping cars and lighting small fires as thousands swarmed the streets.

One person was killed when a driver backed his sport utility vehicle into a group of revellers.

James Grabowski, 21, died when the SUV plowed into fans near Northeastern University, the Suffolk District Attorney's office said. Three others were injured, one critically.

The driver, Stanley Filoma, 24, sped off, but was arrested a short distance away. He was arraigned Monday on charges of vehicular homicide while operating under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident that resulted in personal injury and failing to stop for a police officer, Suffolk DA spokesman David Procopio said. Bail was set at $10,000 cash.

Six cars were also overturned in the area and several others were damaged. Acting Police Commissioner James Hussey said three arrests were made for the ``outrageous behaviour'' and police hoped to make more.

One of those injured was a Boston police officer whose injuries were not life-threatening, police said. The officer was on duty and was trying to stop the car from hitting the crowd.

In Kenmore Square, near Boston University, college-aged fans thronged the streets around garbage fires. A local TV station reported that one of its vans was vandalized, and the crew had be escorted from the area by police.

``Unfortunately, there were those who used this event as an excuse to break laws and destroy property,'' Hussey said.

In the city's Allston neighbourhood, home to many college students and nightclubs, firefighters hosed down revellers in hopes of dispersing the crowd.

At the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, police in riot gear cleared a crowd of hundreds of fans after they set a fire and refused to disperse. There were no reports of trouble at the University of Rhode Island and the University of New Hampshire, where violence broke out after Red Sox playoff games last fall.

The city plans a rally for Tuesday at City Hall Plaza, where two years ago about 1.2 million fans celebrated the Patriots' first Super Bowl win over the St. Louis Rams.

``I'll be there. No doubt,'' said David Harrison, who joined hundreds of other fans who flooded the streets around Boston's historic Faneuil Hall seconds after Adam Vinatieri's 41-yard field goal in the waning seconds capped a 32-29 win over the Carolina Panthers.

It was a remarkably similar ending to the 2002 Super Bowl, when Vinatieri's field goal sealed the victory over St. Louis.

``Could you ask for a better script?'' said Jim Jackson, 44, of Boston, who was partying at The Rack billiards club. ``It's a Hollywood ending - again.''


I know you won and want to celebrate but this is ridiculous. :confused:

[Morgana]

Originally posted by horrorfreak13
I unfortunatley just read this now and I don't know how to explain this.

FROM TSN.ca

[I]BOSTON (AP) - New England Patriots fans turned rowdy after their team's Super Bowl victory, flipping cars and lighting small fires as thousands swarmed the streets.

One person was killed when a driver backed his sport utility vehicle into a group of revellers.



That's just sad. This is how people celebrate their team's victory? It's not fair to the Patriots. If I was a New England Patriot I'd be ashamed to call these people my fans. That's even if some of them are real fans. Sounds like some of them rioted only because they could.

[Haddonfield]

yeah I read that about the accident. its a shame. somehow people just dont know how to have fun anymore.

as for the game. Pretty damn solid one at that. My hats are off to the Cats for giving the Pats there toughest game of the entire season. Could have gone either way there but Adam found his tough again. Stat of the night was Adam's 4 misses in dome stadiums and all of them being in Houston.

Brady was getting pressure on almost every play and big salute to the O line for letting Tom have just enough time. Zero sacks in the playoffs. Not bad.

The two missed FG's got me a little pissed as did the INT Tom threw that could have iced things. Jake had a hell of a game as well. Seems like both teams did the opposite of what they normaly do almost, least the Cats did by not running the ball. I think they realised that they werent going to be able to run past the Pats so they just aired it out and the Pats didnt have enough experience with there throwing game since they dont throw that much. Jake has a great arm.

The glitz of the day was OK. all the pre-game stuff was again boring, thankfully I had a hockey game to watch that killed 3 hours. The commercials were less than thrilling, and Id say some of the worst Ive seen since commercials became the "in" thing suring a Super Bowl. and the halftime show was pointless as usual. One thing I dont understand is how CBS goes ape shite over a tit, and the thing was practicaly covered up anyways, yet had no problem with the songs being "sung" you have Janet Jackson saying "youve got a tight package alright, guess im gonna have to ride it tonight" and no problem there....morons.

One thing I did want to say is that Simpsons Mastercard commercial was funny as all hell.

Well over all, great game. Two games in one...a great defensive stuggle then an old fasioned texas shoot-out.

Now im thinking about win number 16 in a row :)

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
One thing I did want to say is that Simpsons Mastercard commercial was funny as all hell.


I laughed at that one and the other I saw on a collective package thanks to Canadian sports stations.

Still I'd like to say DAMN THE CRTC AND GLOBAL TO FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Morgana
That's just sad. This is how people celebrate their team's victory? It's not fair to the Patriots. If I was a New England Patriot I'd be ashamed to call these people my fans. That's even if some of them are real fans. Sounds like some of them rioted only because they could.


yeah, thats the problem...you have all these kids in there dorm rooms getting smashed and the over the top macho BS comes out in spades. I bet there are a lot of "what the hell did I do last night" thoughts floating through the heads of many college students today.

Seems like any team that wins a champioship now a days has fans who go batty and do something stupid. Ill never really understand it.

[PapaJupe2k]

Incidents like that are going to happen everywhere regardless of the sport or city involved. It's just a sad reality. Like you guys said it was about as likely to have been caused by people who haven't watched a Pats game all year and just wanted an excuse to go crazy. Authorities just have to try to keep it to a minimum, it is a shame someone was killed though, for what?:(

[Morgana]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
The two missed FG's got me a little pissed as did the INT Tom threw that could have iced things.

I've come to call these under pressure mistakes the "Hasselbecks". Fortunately Brady's INT didn't cost the Pats the game, but if it had, I would've hung myself. First I saw Hasselbeck's deadly INT, then Favre's, Brady's would've been too much for me. Whew. He lucked out. And so did I. At least one game during the playoffs went my way.

[Boba Joe]

The following is part of my post in "Schmoe Most Likely To..." in the Movie Guessing Games forum on 1-30:

start a Boston riot if the New England Patriots win Super Bowl XXXVIII: Haddonfield

Where exactly were you last night? Just kidding, dude. I know you wouldn't do anything like that. I'm in agreement with pretty much everyone else that I'm sure the Patriots are ashmed of this. I'm positive it doesn't reflect the proud Patriot fans as a whole. I remember reading the same thing happening in Denver when they won their first title. I just don't get it.

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Bobajoe
The following is part of my post in "Schmoe Most Likely To..." in the Movie Guessing Games forum on 1-30:

start a Boston riot if the New England Patriots win Super Bowl XXXVIII: Haddonfield

Where exactly were you last night?


haha, well....

The day started off just fine...I woke up to the sounds of Hulk Hogan's "I am a real American" in my head, then I realized it was just my cell phone going off. I then smoked half a pack of smokes in anticipation of the lingeria bowl, but forgot that I cant affrord to get it...so I ran off to the packy store and bought a 30 pack of bud. As I got home I ordered 2 peperoni pizzas and forgot that I missed coach God's pre game press conference, so I replayed the 2001 Super Bowl in fast forward while I lit candles and prayed. Soon after I noticed my 30 pack had become a 20 pack and the Bruins game was about to start. So I took off my hat during the National Anthem and watched as the glorious game we call hockey played its way on my screen for 3 hours. A few missing teeth later my buddy called me and asked if I was pumped for the game....I told him that I had all ready written out the contract for my soul and was just waiting for the devil to sign it, when out of nowhere Barry Sanders showed up and tried to get me to bet 300 bucks on the under with Carolina as the winner. Reluctenly I declined and waited for kick off.....As Beyance spat out yet another Anthem (sorry but Rene Rancore is still the best) I decited it was about time I needed a life. So I hoped in my 98 Toyota Corrola and headed on down to the local State College. As the game went on I figured out that Bill Bucker really isnt all that bad and that Boomer Eisiasan can stay over at my place if he was too messed up to drive....Too make a long story short, when I woke up, I had 1 beer left, all the pizza was gone. My face was painted in Pittsburg Steelers couler, and I had a book of matches in my hand. As I stumbled my way to my car, I turned over the engine and said to myself..."damn that Brady is good"

[Benny]

Final Super Bowl Thoughts:

YEEEEEAAAAAHHHH PATRIOTS! I'm not a huge Pats fan, but I'm glad they won their 2nd Super Bowl in 3 years. The game was excellent, well the second half was at least, and the game was very close the whole time. Damn, the Patriots always have to leave their fans hanging till the last possible moment!

Too bad I didn't bet, I would have made a small fortune betting on the Panthers against the spread, but would have lost it all betting the "under." Also, who said Vinatieri was gonna kick the game-winner again?! ;) He did have me worried that first half though.

Once again, I applaud CBS for being a bunch of pussies about the whole halftime show thing. They should have known in advance that a show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Justin Timberlake, and Janet Jackson was gonna be risque, and not "wholesome family entertainment." That's not what the Super Bowl is about. What can we expect next year, Barney and Spongebob Squarepants singing a halftime duet? :mad: By the way, I didn't watch the halftime show this year, but I saw the pics later, and thoroughly enjoyed them! I loved the look on Timberlake's face, he's thinking maybe I should point it out to her, but DAMN I'm such a pimp daddy, let me enjoy it while it lasts!

Commericals mostly sucked. There were a few good ones (The dog grabs the crotch, the donkey wants to be a horse, the old people race for the chips, the NFL coaches and players singing "Tomorrow,") but otherwise they were pretty bad. I was ready to throw a rock through the screen every time one of those Levitra and Cialis commericals came on!

Damn, what am I gonna do the next 6 months without football? And the next 6 weeks without March Madness!

[Haddonfield]

Want to see just how messed up this whole have time show has become...feast your eyes on this...

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~1931295,00.html

They acualy say that the Janet Jackson stunt is bad because of the way it looks to Muslims. How sad it that.

[Morgana]

I think the whole thing is so blown out of proportion. I have my feminist moments, but I don't believe for a minute that the Jackson/Timberlake stunt encourages men to rip off women's clothes at their leisure. :rolleyes:

And why did Shaq's profanity even get mentioned in this article as if cussing was some kind of a sign of the apocalypse? So he cussed about some bad reffing, how many of us don't? I have yet to meet one sports fan who doesn't use profanity when something goes awry during a game.

I think the whole thing is just totally blown out of proportion by the "morally just".

[Strider]

Originally posted by Morgana
I have yet to meet one sports fan who doesn't use profanity when something goes awry during a game.

Yeah, you're totally right, Morgana. You should have seen me, or better yet, heard me when I saw John Kasay's out-of-bounds kick..... ;)

[Strider]

This whole issue about Janet Jackson and her right breast is really getting out of hand. I'm already tired of hearing about it so damn much. Hell, today I heard that CBS is thinking about banning both Janet and Justin Timberlake from the Grammy's this Sunday. I mean, give me a damn break! It's only a breast, and it was shown on national television for only a split-second, for the love of heaven!

Sheesh. You know, it could have been much worse. Justin Timberlake could have taken all his clothes off, and reveal himself to the entire world in the nude. Now, that would've been ugly..... ;)

[Haddonfield]

Originally posted by Strider
Yeah, you're totally right, Morgana. You should have seen me, or better yet, heard me when I saw John Kasay's out-of-bounds kick..... ;)


You should have heard me!....

"hahahahahaha nice kick!!! Thank you!!! enjoy a loss in the Super Bowl!"

:)

Fact is, he could have kicked it on the one yard line...Adam was going to nail a 60 yarder if he had to...Just the way it goes. :)

[Strider]

Originally posted by Haddonfield
Fact is, he could have kicked it on the one yard line...Adam was going to nail a 60 yarder if he had to...Just the way it goes. :)

Just the way it goes? True words. But it's still a bitch..... :D

[Guy Strong]

Things I learned by watching Super Bowl XXXVIII....


Janet's tit is overrated.

Tom Brady is a good QB, but he is not Joe Montana.

This was maybe the best Super Bowl ever.

Troy looks good, but Van Helsing looks better.

John Kasay did not lose the game .. The Panthers "D" did.

Jake Delhomme was awesome.

MTV and thier halftime show both suck.

can't wait till next year...

[Strider]

In today's news.....

Jim Fassel has finally got himself a job! Fassel is officially the new assistant head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, the team which defeated his former New York Giants in that dreadful SuperBowl back in 2001. Ain't that strange?

[horrorfreak13]

Originally posted by Strider
In today's news.....

Jim Fassel has finally got himself a job! Fassel is officially the new assistant head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, the team which defeated his former New York Giants in that dreadful SuperBowl back in 2001. Ain't that strange?

Intresting I knew he couldn't stay out of a job this year although I thought he would be a head coach and not a assistant.

The Redskins announced their head coaching staff today and Gredd Williams is the defensive coach orassistant or something. He did have a good defence in Buffalo so lets see what he can do with Joe Gibbs

[Guy Strong]

Originally posted by Strider
In today's news.....

Jim Fassel has finally got himself a job! Fassel is officially the new assistant head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, the team which defeated his former New York Giants in that dreadful SuperBowl back in 2001. Ain't that strange?

thats wacky ... but ain't Brain and Jim like best friends.

[Benny]

Crappy news... screw ESPN for giving into the No Fun League and canceling one of the best new shows on TV!

(AP) ESPN canceled ``Playmakers'' after one season Wednesday, in part because the NFL considered the show offensive and an unfair representation of the league.

The show focused on a fictional team and featured plots that included drug use, marital infidelity, racism and homophobia. NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue had expressed concerns that ``Playmakers'' was one-dimensional and perpetuated racial stereotypes.

ESPN is paying the NFL $4.8 billion over eight seasons for the rights to Sunday night games.

``Many considerations went into this decision, not the least of which was the reaction from a longtime and valued partner,'' said Mark Shapiro, ESPN executive vice president of programming and production.

Still, Shapiro said the NFL did not pressure the network to cancel the show. ``Nobody charts our programming future but us,'' he said.

The network's partnership with the NFL continues Sunday night, when ESPN will televise the Pro Bowl.

``Now we can all move on,'' NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

``Playmakers'' drew praise from some critics, and its 11 episodes were watched by an average of 2 million people each Tuesday night, five times the ratings the network drew for that time slot the previous year. ESPN had aired a variety of shows in the time slot, including NFL Films, original programming like ``Sports Reporters II'' and even a college football game between Miami and Marshall.

Along with the praise, ``Playmakers'' drew criticism from players. Tampa Bay defensive tackle Warren Sapp refused to do interviews with ESPN, although he subsequently did several. By the end of the season, however, there were reports that players approached the network to inquire about roles on the show.

NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw said the union didn't like the show in part because of what it felt was the stereotyping of black players. He also disagreed with ESPN's strategy of promoting ``Playmakers'' during broadcasts of NFL games.

The brouhaha over the show was not the only time ESPN stirred up controversy during the season. Radio host Rush Limbaugh resigned as a commentator on ESPN's ``Sunday NFL Countdown,'' after suggesting that Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because he is black.

Another TV-NFL conflict came during the halftime show of the Super Bowl, when Justin Timberlake ripped off a piece of Janet Jackson's clothing, revealing her breast to a national audience watching on CBS. Tagliabue called it ``offensive, embarrassing to us and our fans, and inappropriate.''

As for ``Playmakers,'' Shapiro said ESPN proved it could produce a viable fictional sports drama that appealed to critics and viewers. To go ahead with a second season, he said, would be ``rubbing it in the faces of our most important client.''

The network has several shows in development, Shapiro said, and hopes to announce plans for a new series within the next few months. ESPN has also produced several TV movies - including an adaptation of the nonfiction book ``A Season on the Brink'' about Bob Knight. There's no guarantee, however, that ESPN won't run into the same problem again.

``It's a fine line to walk because we're producing dramas on sports in which many of them are partners with us,'' he said. ``It's getting your partner to understand and accept that it's not a reflection'' of their league.